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Post Post #6 (isolation #0) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:25 am

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What's this game again?
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Post Post #7 (isolation #1) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:28 am

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VOTE: Smudger

He's always scum.

That's what I've heard, anyways.
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Post Post #8 (isolation #2) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:29 am

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Let's lynch someone before the mods get the role PMs.

That reveal would be hilarious.
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Post Post #14 (isolation #3) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:14 am

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In post 12, androgybee wrote:~Nahdia

Holy hell. I just can't seem to get away from you :P
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Post Post #16 (isolation #4) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:17 am

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Or you, for that matter lol.
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Post Post #18 (isolation #5) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:24 am

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Yeah, those are lame. Who wants to know the setup prior to joining anyways?
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Post Post #21 (isolation #6) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:31 am

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In post 19, androgybee wrote:hello friend Xkfyu. im town again this game! let me know if ur town so i dont derp mislynch u pls.

Town here too!

Good. Glad we got that out of the way early this time.

*Whispers* Shhh don't tell them, but I think it be fun to lynch M&B?

UNVOTE: Smudger

VOTE: Minsc and Boo
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Post Post #22 (isolation #7) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:32 am

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In post 20, Davsto wrote:In terms of roles this game, I'm fairly uninformed besides my own - I've only played with Plotinus once, and I hope to fuck that role isn't in the game.

Yeah, I have no idea what roles Plotinus has had in past games. So, I'm completely in the dark as well.
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Post Post #26 (isolation #8) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:45 am

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In post 24, androgybee wrote:I... I agree but we already have such a nice looking fledgling wagon on ol' Smudger here... i don't want to abandon it....

~Nahdia

That's cool too.

UNVOTE: Minsc and Boo

VOTE: Smudger
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Post Post #29 (isolation #9) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 4:53 am

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In post 28, Davsto wrote:I propose that we post as many role PMs of Plotinus from finished games as we know, with the word "previousroles" all as one at the top. This allows a simple search to find a good selection of potential roles.

If allowed, I fully support this. I won't, however, have much time to do any serious looking until at least tomorrow, Friday at the latest.
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Post Post #33 (isolation #10) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:03 am

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In post 32, Davsto wrote:Actually, after a little think, I'm going to say -
ONLY SCUM roles for this please
- we want to be able to work out scum's roles. We don't want to tell scum roles that might exist for fakeclaims or for them to figure shit out.

I like it.
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Post Post #37 (isolation #11) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:09 am

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In post 36, Smudger wrote:Time for a counter wagon

Too late. We're lynching you.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #12) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:10 am

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Plus, Nahdia has already claimed town, so they must be town.
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Post Post #41 (isolation #13) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:30 am

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In post 40, androgybee wrote:Gladiate: Smudger

Best part is not even the mod knows if this is real

HAHAHAHA!
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Post Post #43 (isolation #14) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:33 am

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Holy shit...
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Post Post #49 (isolation #15) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:48 am

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In post 46, Not_Mafia wrote:Come on Vamanos, everybody let's go.
Come on Vamanos, come on wagon ho.

VOTE: Smudger

Come on Vamanos, everybody let's go.
Come on Vamanos, forced entry post let's go.

Great. Now that song is in my head. Thanks for that.
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Post Post #74 (isolation #16) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:29 am

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In post 73, ActionDan wrote:
In post 69, Davsto wrote:I am pretty irritated by this when I signed up to play a game made out of Plotinus' roles and then get a role Plotinus has never had


So you'd feel better if you were a VT :/

What's wrong with VT? I like VT.
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Post Post #81 (isolation #17) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:41 am

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In post 78, Not_Mafia wrote:In post 74, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 73, ActionDan wrote:
In post 69, Davsto wrote:
I am pretty irritated by this when I signed up to play a game made out of Plotinus' roles and then get a role Plotinus has never had


So you'd feel better if you were a VT :/

What's wrong with VT? I like VT.


This is what you popped up to say?

Yes.
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Post Post #85 (isolation #18) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:34 am

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In post 84, Minsc and Boo wrote:I only know Plotinus usually rolls scum.

so we're probably looking at 6 scum here.

LyLo already. Great.

In post 84, Minsc and Boo wrote:VOTE: Smudger

I also want in!

You are already in. Stop skimming.
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Post Post #88 (isolation #19) » Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:42 am

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I guess I CAN get away from you, then.
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Post Post #162 (isolation #20) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 5:55 am

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In post 138, Gorkington wrote:town and scum can both be lynchbait.
smudger's opening was awkward and easy to latch onto.
hes not saying much now and probably wont react until momentum has fizzled.

p-edit: pressure is only useful if people are here to be pressured by it, is a sexy point that i stand by earlygame.

Most (3 out of 4) of Smudgers votes accumulated before he even made his first post, so why are you connecting his entrance with his wagon?

Also, why do you believe that he won't react until his wagon's momentum slows down?
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Post Post #169 (isolation #21) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:58 am

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You just gonna scum read me and ignore my questions?
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Post Post #170 (isolation #22) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:59 am

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And why is M&B "untouchable" today?
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Post Post #173 (isolation #23) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:15 am

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In post 171, Gorkington wrote:In post 162, Xkfyu wrote:
Most (3 out of 4) of Smudgers votes accumulated before he even made his first post, so why are you connecting his entrance with his wagon?
do you disagree that smudger's wagon still being a thing is related to his entrance?
y/n?
if y, why ask such a pointless question.
if n, why are you being wrong at me?

Yes, I disagree. You're the only one who has really had a problem with his entrance, and you never even voted for him.

In post 171, Gorkington wrote:xk wrote:
Also, why do you believe that he won't react until his wagon's momentum slows down?
lack of reaction to the rest of the wagon.

The "rest of the wagon?" You mean Not_Mafia? Perhaps he just hasn't been back online since his last post.

In post 172, Gorkington wrote:or to be more specific, because titus.*

Ok, so why is Titus untouchable?
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Post Post #177 (isolation #24) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:27 am

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In post 174, Gorkington wrote:Xkfyu wrote:
Yes, I disagree. You're the only one who has really had a problem with his entrance, and you never even voted for him.
i) so youre voting him because "lol a wagon on someone for no reason is fun"?
ii) not-mafia is a person in this game who ive been talking to.
frustrating that it feels like youre not actually reading whats happening in the game.

1. Yes, that was the reason for my initial RVS vote on him. However, I have no reason to believe that he's scum right now, so I fully plan on moving my vote soon.
2. Fair enough.

In post 174, Gorkington wrote:Xkfyu wrote:
The "rest of the wagon?" You mean Not_Mafia? Perhaps he just hasn't been back online since his last post.
In post 84, Minsc and Boo wrote:
I only know Plotinus usually rolls scum.

so we're probably looking at 6 scum here.

VOTE: Smudger

I also want in!

-Radja
yeah.
just notmafia.

Speaking of not reading the game. M&B were already voting for Smudger when Radja posted that. So yeah. Just Not_Mafia.

In post 174, Gorkington wrote:Xkfyu wrote:
Ok, so why is Titus untouchable?
i probably wont be okay with lynching her slot on day one this game for dumb personal reasons. sorry.

Fine. I just wanted to know your opinion.
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Post Post #180 (isolation #25) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:33 am

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In post 178, Not_Mafia wrote:
In post 177, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 174, Gorkington wrote:Xkfyu wrote:
Yes, I disagree. You're the only one who has really had a problem with his entrance, and you never even voted for him.
i) so youre voting him because "lol a wagon on someone for no reason is fun"?
ii) not-mafia is a person in this game who ive been talking to.
frustrating that it feels like youre not actually reading whats happening in the game.

1. Yes, that was the reason for my initial RVS vote on him. However, I have no reason to believe that he's scum right now, so I fully plan on moving my vote soon.


You certainly are taking your time

And I will continue to do so, until I am ready.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #26) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:50 am

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In post 179, Gorkington wrote:@xk, im getting bored with my own shtick. tell me about the three players in this game that you feel most confident about in either alignment direction.

I think androgyBee is probably town.

I was thinking that Davsto was town before he replaced out, but I'm more null on that slot now. I didn't really like how Ircher talked about almost nothing but his slot when he got here and I think his reasoning for voting you was pretty weak.

However, Maruchan's serious overstatement of your paranoia (which was clearly sarcasm) about being voted is my biggest concern right now.

UNVOTE: Smudger

VOTE: Maruchan
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Post Post #183 (isolation #27) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 7:50 am

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In post 181, Not_Mafia wrote:So do you have reads or...

No. Not really.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #28) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:01 am

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In post 184, Gorkington wrote:do you think scum-maruchan intentionally plays dumb about me being sarcastic?

I certainly don't think town Maruchan plays dumb about you being sarcastic.
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Post Post #194 (isolation #29) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:48 am

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In post 186, Gorkington wrote:so you think that they picked up on the sarcasm? it doesnt read as possible to you that they didnt?

It's certainly not impossible but no,
In post 163, Maruchan wrote:VOTE: glorkington Being paranoid about votes on you when you only have one (and a mis-counted second) vote on you at this stage of the game is super fucking scummy beyond belief. especially with all your earlier bullshit I kept noticing. Sorry bud, youre on my scum list.

this doesn't read at all like he picked up on the sarcasm.
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Post Post #196 (isolation #30) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:04 am

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In post 195, Gorkington wrote:im saying that if maruchan missed the context of the sarcasm, isnt your entire point on him moot?
like.
if he didnt realize i was messing around, why is he scummy for it?

Scum probably aren't coming straight out the gate and bussing their buddies. So, they are looking for reasons to vote/cast shade on town.

If he was playing dumb and he did pick up on the sarcasm, then his vote is definitely fake, and I think he's scum for it.

If he didn't pick up on it, then I think it is still more likely to come from scum, because I believe scum would be more quick to jump something like that, without giving it a second thought, than town.
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Post Post #198 (isolation #31) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:16 am

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In post 197, Fire Assassin wrote:Xkyfu join me on the Maruchan wagon.

Way ahead of you.
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Post Post #243 (isolation #32) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:10 am

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In post 221, Roshar wrote:@xkfyu, why do you think androgybee is probably town?

Just a weak meta read right now, based off the way Nahdia reacted to the "ewwww" post.

In post 221, Roshar wrote:Now what came after with Xkfyu voting for him was pretty interesting. And it took him a while to find it scummy. I don't agree with this:
If he didn't pick up on it, then I think it is still more likely to come from scum, because I believe scum would be more quick to jump something like that, without giving it a second thought, than town.

Town can be as well. If this was Maru's only point, I'd consider this argument, but he had like 4 other points (granted, I didn't understand what he saw as scummy) but he had them. Xfyu, What took you so long to vote for Maru? Why didn't you do it outright after he posted his wall post?

You say that as if I waited a really long time. I put my vote down a mere 55 minutes after his wall post. During which time, I was in a conversation with Gork about that very thing. It didn't take me a while to find it scummy. I found it scummy immediately. But if I immediately move my vote every time I see something scummy, then I would be constantly unvoting/voting. Ain't nobody got time for that!
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Post Post #244 (isolation #33) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:15 am

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In post 223, androgybee wrote:^ ~Nahdia

also im kind of wishy-washy on my Xkfyu read tbh. i didn't out it since i wanted to talk it over with my other head but basically Xkfyu felt kind of different here from elsewhere ive played with him (kind of more jovial/peppy?) and i was sort of thinking it might be kind of an overcompensation for him not wanting to play scum so i kind of had a scumread on him? but catching up i did actually like his posts since i tended to agree with the things he was saying. but it's possible the points were really obvious ones to make. idk. wary of that slot in particular. just wanted to tack this one cuz it didn't really have any place in the catchup post

~Nahdia

I LOVE playing scum, by the way.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #34) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:22 am

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In post 245, Not_Mafia wrote:Are you loving this game?

I am.
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Post Post #441 (isolation #35) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:49 am

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Didn't realize that it had been so long since I posted. Catching up now.
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Post Post #442 (isolation #36) » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:14 am

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In post 376, chamber wrote:My slots first 2 posts are pretty terrible, why is there no traction on a wagon on me? Suspicious.

Suspicious of who? Everyone who is not voting you?
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Post Post #452 (isolation #37) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:10 am

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Not nearly as much to catch up on from the weekend as I expected. I guess everyone else had a busy weekend too.

Anyways, I'm still leaning scum on Maruchan. I'm also thinking that Roshar is scum based on his over exaggeration of my stance on Maruchan.

I don't like the Fire Assassin wagon, though. I think Gork is probably town, but if I'm right about Fire Assassin being town, then I think Aristophanes and M&B are decent picks for scum.

I also think Ircher is probably town.
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Post Post #466 (isolation #38) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:35 am

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In post 460, Gorkington wrote:xkfyu wrote:
I don't like the Fire Assassin wagon, though. I think Gork is probably town, but if I'm right about Fire Assassin being town, then I think Aristophanes and M&B are decent picks for scum.

also, if you insult me im probably going to be more inclined to actually death tunnel you, so you may want to stop that.

First off, I don't insult people.

Secondly, I am not, nor am I ever, concerned with threats of any kind. So you're wasting your time threatening me with a death tunnel.

Do you believe that when someone disagrees with you that they are insulting you?
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Post Post #468 (isolation #39) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:38 am

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In post 455, Gorkington wrote:
In post 451, Not_Mafia wrote:Sorry, got the flu and starting a new job today, nothing has happened to really change my scumreads on FA AND Smudger slot.
talk at me.
about what you dont like about it.
is it the composition or fa reading town to you?

The composition.

I think Fire is town, and scum has jumped on his wagon on the coattails of your case.
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Post Post #470 (isolation #40) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:39 am

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In post 467, Gorkington wrote:p-edit: jfc q.q
i was talking to fire with that second part.

My bad.
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Post Post #479 (isolation #41) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:47 am

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In post 469, Gorkington wrote:why do you think fire is town

If you ignore all the in-character assassin references and the overly dramatized posts, it appears to me that he is genuinely trying to sort people.
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Post Post #485 (isolation #42) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:06 am

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In post 321, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 319, Minsc and Boo wrote:how do you feel about Xkfyu? There's something about him that's rubbing me the wrong way.

-Radja

No, he is town.
You are scummish though.

Radja was talking to you here. Therefore, assuming that Fire and M&B are not buddies, scum Fire had no real reason to get involved in this conversation. If they are buddies, it could have just been a little distancing, but I think it's unlikely.

In post 323, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 322, Maruchan wrote:
In post 249, Gorkington wrote:
maruchan wrote:Gorkington still has failed to respond to any question or request posed to him regarding his reads or changes of his reads, and just continues attempting to make snide humor comments, that fail to provide humor.
oooo did you want me to double down on my cheeky bullshit? because you ignoring me actually giving content in the form of a case to continue this hilarious tirade against me having fun in this game is just amazing and you really are just incentivizing me at this point.

At the point in my read through I made that comment your case had not yet been made, and you still have avoided even acknowledging me or XK asking you about your reads on us. You've continued to blatantly ignore that.
In post 287, Ircher wrote:
In post 251, Gorkington wrote:like seriously, im driving the biggest wagon in the game right now with the best-made case. tomorrow i'll pick at fire's response to it. and then i'll probably drive the game some more. does it bother you that youre impressively uninfluential when youre trying so hard while a buffoon who doesnt use proper grammar and posts sarcastically 90% of the time is?

That case was actually rather awful. I literally thought it would be decent and didnt bother to check the evidence.

Literally how is this town play.

"Oh I was too lazy to read the first case of the game ,but since it was the first case of the game, hey, I'll hop on it. BANDWAGGON AHOY".

THAT IS NOT TOWN PLAY.

I am sorry to tell you this, but people sheep wagons for awful reasoning all the time, and its often town. Scum sometimes do it, but usually they are worried about looking bad.

Is it pro town behavior to ignore the actual case? No
Is it anti town? Hell yes.

Is he scum? Id say I think he is trying to solve the game so that reads as town.

Scum Fire could have chosen to come off of his town read on you a little here. He didn't.

In post 381, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 376, chamber wrote:My slots first 2 posts are pretty terrible, why is there no traction on a wagon on me? Suspicious.

Should there be? Why should we push someone with a lack of content? It clearly shows they aren't active in the game.

Someone with a lack of content (ie lurking) would be an easy and safe push for scum.

Now, any one of these could be faked as scum, but I think, when viewed as a whole, they seem to be coming from a town perspective.
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Post Post #486 (isolation #43) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:06 am

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In post 483, Fire Assassin wrote:I am recruiting assassins to help me take down Minsc and Boo, please join the fight!

Sign me up.

UNVOTE: Maruchan

VOTE: Minsc and Boo
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Post Post #487 (isolation #44) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:07 am

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I still like the Maruchan lynch too, though.
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Post Post #554 (isolation #45) » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:30 am

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In post 551, Roshar wrote:In post 452, Xkfyu wrote:
Not nearly as much to catch up on from the weekend as I expected. I guess everyone else had a busy weekend too.

Anyways, I'm still leaning scum on Maruchan. I'm also thinking that Roshar is scum based on his over exaggeration of my stance on Maruchan.

I don't like the Fire Assassin wagon, though. I think Gork is probably town, but if I'm right about Fire Assassin being town, then I think Aristophanes and M&B are decent picks for scum.

I also think Ircher is probably town.


her* You're like the 5th person now. /sigh

Over-exaggeration? Is it not a concern to feel like a vote was contrived b/c of it's timing, knowing that you were there when maru posted that enormous wall? Knowing that you had been getting some pressure from gorke about when you plan on changing your vote?

Now in your defense, you were indeed engaged in discourse with gorke. Which is why I left it. But, one can't help but notice that you were getting pressured to move your vote off Smudger. And how easy it was to make a case on Maru for his literal view of Gorke's statement.

Can you explain the bold statement more thoroughly please?

*Her. Sorry, didn't notice.

You seem to be under the impression that the timing of my vote had anything to do with the "pressure" from others for me to move my vote. However, that's not the case. Gork and I were in our conversation before Maru even made his post. Just because a couple of posts were made concerning why I hadn't moved my vote doesn't mean that that's why I moved. I would have moved my vote regardless of any pressure to do so.

The bold part can be explained by my .
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Post Post #555 (isolation #46) » Tue Apr 12, 2016 3:48 am

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In post 553, chamber wrote:Guys, I still like a boo lynch better than fire, but can we find a third option? I'm starting to have my doubts.

Who would be your third option?
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Post Post #643 (isolation #47) » Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:59 am

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In post 616, Roshar wrote:My vote on him does not mean I'm willing to lynch him. The insight on him helps though.

Why would you vote someone that you aren't willing to lynch?
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Post Post #644 (isolation #48) » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:09 am

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UNVOTE: Minsc and Boo

VOTE: ActionDan

Gonna apply as much pressure to this slot as possible for when Dan's replacement arrives.
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Post Post #651 (isolation #49) » Wed Apr 13, 2016 5:00 am

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In post 648, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Xkfyu

scum.

As if I didn't see that one coming.
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Post Post #758 (isolation #50) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:17 am

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In post 704, RadiantCowbells wrote:VOTE: Xkfyu

This has to happen.

Why? I haven't seen any actual reasons from you yet.
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Post Post #759 (isolation #51) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:18 am

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In post 715, RadiantCowbells wrote:I just read your ISO and you pretty clearly talk about a lapse in confidence and being confident that AD is scum.

VOTE: Gorkington

Never mind. I see what you're doing.
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Post Post #760 (isolation #52) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:21 am

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In post 745, RadiantCowbells wrote:Does this feel like multiball to anyone else?

I haven't given it any thought. What makes you think that?
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Post Post #1057 (isolation #53) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:09 am

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UNVOTE: RadiantCowbells

VOTE: Minsc and Boo

What's with all the scum reads on me?
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