Mini 1781: Plotinus Mafia: Game Over

[Ether]

Day 1, Votecount 8

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3 Smudger (Minsc and Boo, androgybee, Not_Mafia)
2 androgybee (ActionDan, Smudger)
2 Gorkington (Ircher, Maruchan)
2 Maruchan (Xkfyu, Fire Assassin)
1 Fire Assassin (Gorkington)

3 Unvote (Aristophanes, Iecerint, Roshar)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2016-04-20 09:00:00), or on Wednesday, April 20th at 9:00 am EDT.

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[Ircher]

Gorkington still has failed to expand on his current reads....

[Gorkington]

Gorkington still has failed to expand

not the first time ive heard that one.
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

[Gorkington]

so heres fire assassin in a nutshell and why you should vote for him.
i) opening vote is on me.
starts as RVS.
he then tries to weirdly justify it with easy reasoning.
not a big deal, but it gave me gutfeels that he felt nervous about sitting on an unexplained vote, which feels scummy in my heart.

ii) transition onto nahdia/beeboy hydra is wonky and easy. he abandons the vote on me for what amounts to "these posts look weird" which is meh. what bothers me is that it feels like hes registered that im not an easy push at this point. specifics here being:

I find this strange you have so many reads this early into the game.
I guess they are mostly 'leans' so, not really strong so its w/e.

this is his follow-up to me ignoring his questions.
where other people are prickled by me doing this, he backs off, hedges and waffles. it just doesnt seem like a real genuine "im trying to figure out who scum is"-reaction and instead just kind of looks to me like "how do i push someone and not get flack for it here/how do i explain what ive done so far in a way that wont get me in trouble?"

You realize your hostility isn't going to help anyone read you right? Its all AtE, which can be either alignment. I am willing to have a conversation with you, but if all your going to do is throw emotional posts like this, we can't have a discussion and I will have to ignore you.

this does not look like a genuine reaction to someone hes voting/calling scummy.

Why does this sound like you are lining up both associations and lynches before we even have a single flip. This is disgusting on so many levels, its more likely to come from bad town than scum though.

the entire mindset of this post just screams to me of scum not knowing how to deal with someone hardpushing them for reasons that they dont understand.

im struggling a little trying to articulate exactly why this post is bothering me so much. i think its mostly that i cant see the town incentive in simultaneously hedging on calling me scummy/calling me bad town to discredit me without committing to pushing me. im kind of hoping if i draw attention to it, someone smarter than me will look at it and see what im seeing and put it into real words.

part of what also bugs me about this, is that he says "time to find scum!", calls me bad town, and then goes on to basically ask me a bunch of questions. does not feel like genuine scumhunting methinks.

there you go. having all of that time to make up these reasons really helped. thanks for letting me stall ircher.

[Gorkington]

god its so hard to make a case look nice with this posting style.
dang.

[Ircher]

Alright, I'll take you up on your offer and vote him (until he responds to the above), but I do not want to lynch him yet.

VOTE: Fire

[Fire Assassin]

I haven't read your case, but I can say it's A material.
I support you for president

You can be town today.

[Fire Assassin]

Alright, I'll take you up on your offer and vote him (until he responds to the above), but I do not want to lynch him yet.

VOTE: Fire

lol are you high?

[Ircher]

No, I'm not. I don't do drugs.

[Fire Assassin]

No, I'm not. I don't do drugs.

Then read your own ISO and come back to me.

[Ircher]

Why dont you go read the case and answer it.

Rather than trying to insult me.

[Fire Assassin]

Why dont you go read the case and answer it.

Rather than trying to insult me.

I'll read his case later currently phone posting but you are all over the place and confusing me.

[Roshar]

ahhh, 9 pages! Confirming. Haven't read them yet, but promise to do so soon. Apologies for being late, was really busy the past two days.

Also, beeboy, is that you? : D

[androgybee]

beeboy totally said he was catching up a few hours ago but then was like "NINE PAGES!?" and then i guess he didn't.

when oh when will beeboy return from the war?

thoughts and such on last 80 or so posts from this head in a couple hours i guess :s

~Nahdia

[Ircher]

Hi Roshar. Hopefully I'll get to learn how you play here!

[Iecerint]

Hi guys.

You matter to god.

But I haven't read anything. :[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[

[Iecerint]

I wonder which of Radja and Titus is responsible for the BG reference. ^^

[Minsc and Boo]

I wonder which of Radja and Titus is responsible for the BG reference. ^^

Both my hydras share interests

P.s. I am drunk...

Someone show me a good case

[Aristophanes]

Alrighty, time to play some mafia!
My apologies on being absent!

VOTE: Smudger

wew lads
e
w

~Nahdia

I thought you were KTS for a second :S
This hydra should be fun though!

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@mod or Yimmy - is the setup made from only roles Plotinus has had as Plotinus, or could it potentially include any roles Plotinus has had as a hydra?

Either of these is possible.

He keeps an amazing record on his Wiki in case anyone is curious.
Though, there have been many games played. Unsure how one would sort that...
But as an example:
If there is a Third Party, Plot has only had 2 non-Mafia/Town roles.
One was Arsonist. One was Alien 1-shot Bp, 2-shot Rolecop.
So it can be pretty easily figured out, should one exist.

Thank fuck, scum can't have the role I have played with as the game finished 11th Feb

So that's good

(To clarify, ClownTardis mafia, Plot was a Godfather Ninja Strongman Bulletproof Motivator)

That game was wonderful!!!
That role...FML!

Everyone is all over looking for roles in the first few pages...
You do know The Wiki for Plot exists, right?
I do agree it makes Dav super towny though.

[Aristophanes]

I was gonna go to bad. I think I'll have another drink and finish this catchup instead. At Pg 3.
#GootLifeChoices!

[Aristophanes]

Pg 3 was useless. Fun.

Looks like I was beaten to the realization of the Wiki page. Glad people figured that one out!

Maruchan seems cool from his forst posts. I'll keep an eye on him.
Also, what is GMT +3??
Gimme a timezine region or something!

I only know Plotinus usually rolls scum.

so we're probably looking at 6 scum here.

VOTE: Smudger

I also want in!

-Radja

Lol 6 scum?? WTF!

Dav left me </3
OH SHIT! Gork is here tho!!! =D

hi everyone.
i decided to suffer for the sake of my friends.

p-edit: lets stop being in rvs now.
fire assassin wagon please.

<3
VOTE: Fire

im playing my standard coy earlygame.
c:
teehee.

not-mafia and maruchan are townleans.
smudger is nulltown.

davslotreplacement can get a healthy dose of paranoia when they get here for how dav opened this game.

I find this strange you have so many reads this early into the game.
I guess they are mostly 'leans' so, not really strong so its w/e.

So you think we should be pushing Davsto because he did a weird opening? Why you not voting them?

Davslot was empty at this point. Ugly post. This is scum.
I know you're good Cheet, but to nab scum in your first post is God-tier!

I like Nahdia, but that was an overreaction to an "Ewwww" post.
I don;t think it's indicative, however, of her alignment.

I like Gorkington. Not feeling any real conviction behind Fire Assassin's accusations/reads, they feel hollow and... slapped together, for lack of a better word

PEdit: Hi Gorkington, I'm good, how are you?

I am an assassin, I have been trained to be hollow on the inside. It makes me a better killer.

Is...is this a scumclaim??
{Yes, I know it is a joke based on Username. I am merely continuing the joke.}

Ether, I'm impressed! I think you're better at pagetop nabbing than RC is!!!

Lol, I spend two days looking for this game to begin then it begins and you bastards go ape on my arse

But this post is just so... ewwwwwww

I love how you cause shit XD
Also, I agree, but don't think this is a priority atm.

why were half of your points about the slot you replaced.
silly goose.

Amished tell?

also ether, im very self-conscious about how close i am to being lynched right now.
can i request that fire assassin's vote be moved to its rightful place on nahdia hydra? it makes me nervous being L-5 :S

Srsly, pls dont make me metadive you. This just sounds so noobish & scummy.

Lol You Noob Gork! XD
Why are people voting you anyway? I don't see/get any cases really.

I take back the nice things I said about Murchian.

Ohey, I caught up!

[Roshar]

Hey Ircher! : )

Excuse me if my brain is barely keeping up. I just read 24 pages of mafia. I'm at the state where I have to repeat things a couple times before I register them.

Let's see. Not much stood out for me in the first couple of pages.

Dav - his post before he replaced where he gave his reads gave me a town read.

Ircher's case on Gork. Post 141. Point 3 I think is a neutral statement, and 4 I could be wrong, but I think he meant it in the sense that he'd get Nk'd for giving out a power role (and if that power role isn't mafia) and that's the reason for the paranoia. There's good chances that Ircher will be hit if he's town. No point hiding it. If he's not mafia, mafia will go after him. Was plot ever a doctor? /wiggles eyebrows. Overall, though can't relate to this case.

@xkfyu, why do you think androgybee is probably town?

Maruchan. That's when things got interesting. 77 He's taking the game very seriously and looks invested. But I don't find it AI, which is why I agree with Maru in that it is odd Gorkington had a townlean of Maru so early. I also had the same thought as fire assassin about Gorke's quick early reads but I'm thinking this is Gorke's play style.

Anywho, I think Maru genuinely believes his points.

Now what came after with Xkfyu voting for him was pretty interesting. And it took him a while to find it scummy. I don't agree with this:

If he didn't pick up on it, then I think it is still more likely to come from scum, because I believe scum would be more quick to jump something like that, without giving it a second thought, than town.

Town can be as well. If this was Maru's only point, I'd consider this argument, but he had like 4 other points (granted, I didn't understand what he saw as scummy) but he had them. Xfyu, What took you so long to vote for Maru? Why didn't you do it outright after he posted his wall post?

Ircher voting for Gorke's case after he just had a case on Gorke is giving me a town read on Ircher. Being able to read a post and agree with it's contents, and join the wagon of the guy who you were voting is town.

That being said, I'm jumping on it as well. The reasoning behind his response to not being answered was good.


VOTE: Fire Assassin

[androgybee]

ok catchup time. beeboy has been struck down by a wandering plague so u guys r just gonna have to deal with extra me for a bit longer.

Spoiler: page 6&7

138 i dont rly agree that Smudger needs to be pressured based on his opening, it was just the RVS wagon that happened. ur p-edit is right tho and the thing is he hasn't really been here and i dont think his couple posts really said all that much but OK.

141 kind of weird how u say my overeaction reads scum all over but then it's null? i mean i get what ur saying with "it's so scummy it's not something scum would do" but just the way u said it was awk.

145 towny OMGUS.

149 awkward v tryhard dissection. if anything u kind of just showed that i rly dont get where ur gork scumread comes from...

151 better post. kinda see some townie motivation here maybe talking about the table and predicting possible frustrations with it.

152 y r u townread effortposts nooooooooooooooooo......

154 omfg pls lol. it's obviously a silly little gimmick. for how quick u were to brush on NAI stuff earlier it's so odd that u wanted to take this seriously.

157 i never get lynched. if it makes u guys feel better im almost always scum but this time im not so dont worry

159 can appreciate fire following up on his earlier queries and rly wanting answers. kinda towny vibes from this post.

160 is awks tho and NM is right about it being grandstanding >_> idk if i wanna let that slide i almost want to vote here bc i totally do stuff like that as scum but we will SEE.

162 dig that Xkfyu kind of had the same thought process as me here but it's also kind of an obvious observation so i dont give too much credit for it.

164 i rly cannot believe two people took Gorkington's 153 seriously. dang lol. also no i didn't really get any bad vibes from the FA/Gork interaction? also "Sorry bud, youre on my scum list." lol sorry bud that kinda puts u on mine??

167not mafia can be town for this.

168 wait how did Smudger become towny (im assuming that's nulltown bc it's above the people who haven't posted) i thought u said he needed to be pressured??? besides the ircher read and the Smudger read i can dig this.

174 the "i wont lynch titus" thing is towny to me.

WEW LADS PAGE 8 im gonna be way less detailed now bc dang

Spoiler: page 8&9

182 Xkfyu again reiterates my thoughts. neat.

192 oh boy fire picked it up too. now im worried the thought was rly obvious and picking it up is NAI. meh.

195 ho boy another town post.

203 ok um im pretty meh on the fire case. i guess it could be a thing but i liked his Maruchan vote idk. the only point i think was v solid here was that 188 was bad.

206 actually kinda like this reaction to being cased lol.

209 queue airhorns lol.

211 i can kind of see Fire's point but at this same time idk how i feel about throwing shade/diverting attention when he hasn't had the time to respond to any of the case on him. meh.

hi aritophhanesnsnjesnseisijifids!

p-edit gut feeling Roshar is town here.

[androgybee]

^ ~Nahdia

also im kind of wishy-washy on my Xkfyu read tbh. i didn't out it since i wanted to talk it over with my other head but basically Xkfyu felt kind of different here from elsewhere ive played with him (kind of more jovial/peppy?) and i was sort of thinking it might be kind of an overcompensation for him not wanting to play scum so i kind of had a scumread on him? but catching up i did actually like his posts since i tended to agree with the things he was saying. but it's possible the points were really obvious ones to make. idk. wary of that slot in particular. just wanted to tack this one cuz it didn't really have any place in the catchup post

~Nahdia

[Fire Assassin]

I enjoy wagons on me.
I will await till you people come to your senses.

You don't vote off a mighty assassin like me without some good evidence.

Until then, I will be back into the darkness: