Mini 1781: Plotinus Mafia: Game Over


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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:03 pm

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Day 1, Votecount 9


4 Fire Assassin (Gorkington, Ircher, Aristophanes, Roshar)
3 Smudger (Minsc and Boo, androgybee, Not_Mafia)
2 androgybee (ActionDan, Smudger)
2 Maruchan (Xkfyu, Fire Assassin)
1 Gorkington (Maruchan)

1 Unvote (Iecerint)

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2016-04-20 09:00:00), or on Wednesday, April 20th at 9:00 am EDT.


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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:05 pm

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In post 217, Minsc and Boo wrote:
In post 216, Iecerint wrote:I wonder which of Radja and Titus is responsible for the BG reference. ^^


Both my hydras share interests

P.s. I am drunk... :)

Someone show me a good case

In post 219, Aristophanes wrote:I was gonna go to bad. I think I'll have another drink and finish this catchup instead. At Pg 3.
#GootLifeChoices!

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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:31 pm

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In post 220, Aristophanes wrote:Lol You Noob Gork! XD
Why are people voting you anyway? I don't see/get any cases really.
its because of all those darn scumtells i dropped.
trying to pick them up but man theres just so many all over the floor.
:c

now its time for the part of the game when i parse out whether fire assassin is scummy via playstyle or via him being a scum-butt.
wish me luck.~
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:37 pm

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i keep forgetting about that joindate.
mostly because this is like 95%-odds of fire assassin being an alt.
how.
ironically.
frustrating.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:39 pm

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In post 228, Gorkington wrote:i keep forgetting about that joindate.
mostly because this is like 95%-odds of fire assassin being an alt.
how.
ironically.
frustrating.

I already stated I maybe am a Alt, why are you so curious on this?
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:40 pm

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In post 227, Gorkington wrote:
In post 220, Aristophanes wrote:Lol You Noob Gork! XD
Why are people voting you anyway? I don't see/get any cases really.
its because of all those darn scumtells i dropped.
trying to pick them up but man theres just so many all over the floor.
:c

now its time for the part of the game when i parse out whether fire assassin is scummy via playstyle or via him being a scum-butt.
wish me luck.~

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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:42 pm

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because i want meta.
i want it.
and i cant have it.

*frothing*
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:42 pm

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how long are you planning to keep up this "welp lol"-reaction to the push on you?
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:43 pm

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In post 231, Gorkington wrote:because i want meta.
i want it.
and i cant have it.

*frothing*

I rather avoid meta if all possible.
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:44 pm

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In post 232, Gorkington wrote:how long are you planning to keep up this "welp lol"-reaction to the push on you?

How long do I get boss?
I got a sick kid I need to take care of, pls let me have more time!
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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:46 pm

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iuno.
its pretty boring though.

why do you think maruchan was overacting? give specifics.
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:51 pm

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In post 235, Gorkington wrote:iuno.
its pretty boring though.

why do you think maruchan was overacting? give specifics.

I will probably go over it later.
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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 11:59 pm

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Smudger/Fire Assassin/?
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:19 am

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In post 237, Not_Mafia wrote:Smudger/Fire Assassin/?

I prefer me and you being on a team, but I try not to do prelip associations. Which is where I am wondering how you got this from, just scumreading both of us?
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:22 am

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Yup
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:23 am

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okay fire assassin you get some homework.
i want a readslist.
and i want you to give one sentence explanations for each read.
if you dont do this then you get to be the day one lynch.
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:27 am

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In post 203, Gorkington wrote:so heres fire assassin in a nutshell and why you should vote for him.
i) opening vote is on me.
starts as RVS.
he then tries to weirdly justify it with easy reasoning.
not a big deal, but it gave me gutfeels that he felt nervous about sitting on an unexplained vote, which feels scummy in my heart.

ii) transition onto nahdia/beeboy hydra is wonky and easy. he abandons the vote on me for what amounts to "these posts look weird" which is meh. what bothers me is that it feels like hes registered that im not an easy push at this point. specifics here being:
fire wrote:I find this strange you have so many reads this early into the game.
I guess they are mostly 'leans' so, not really strong so its w/e.
this is his follow-up to me ignoring his questions.
where other people are prickled by me doing this, he backs off, hedges and waffles. it just doesnt seem like a real genuine "im trying to figure out who scum is"-reaction and instead just kind of looks to me like "how do i push someone and not get flack for it here/how do i explain what ive done so far in a way that wont get me in trouble?"

fire assassin wrote:You realize your hostility isn't going to help anyone read you right? Its all AtE, which can be either alignment. I am willing to have a conversation with you, but if all your going to do is throw emotional posts like this, we can't have a discussion and I will have to ignore you.
this does not look like a genuine reaction to someone hes voting/calling scummy.


In post 188, Fire Assassin wrote:Why does this sound like you are lining up both associations and lynches before we even have a single flip. This is disgusting on so many levels, its more likely to come from bad town than scum though.
the entire mindset of this post just screams to me of scum not knowing how to deal with someone hardpushing them for reasons that they dont understand.

im struggling a little trying to articulate exactly why this post is bothering me so much. i think its mostly that i cant see the town incentive in simultaneously hedging on calling me scummy/calling me bad town to discredit me without committing to pushing me. im kind of hoping if i draw attention to it, someone smarter than me will look at it and see what im seeing and put it into real words.

part of what also bugs me about this, is that he says "time to find scum!", calls me bad town, and then goes on to basically ask me a bunch of questions. does not feel like genuine scumhunting methinks.

there you go. having all of that time to make up these reasons really helped. thanks for letting me stall ircher.

Finally going to address this. Not breaking up quote just going in numbers...hope that won't confuse.

1) So you are just calling me weird. That isn't news to me. Meh
2) You are not a easy push? I didn't realize this as all. Call me arrogant, but I think I can push whoever if I was scum. With different levels of success but still I could push you if I wanted to, but I was thinking I had good portion of you that I didn't need to look more at you. Your responses as of late have registered you as one my strongest town reads. Which I find funny.
3) I usually don't pressure people to answer my questions. If I do, I am interested if not I am genuinely just trying to create discussion or legitimately don't care. Glad you picked up on the last part, but me not trying to solve the game is different.
4) How does it not look legitimate? They threw AtE at me, I still have them at null for it. The reaction was pretty over the top for them, but I could see it from either alignment. I want to go away from reading people by emotions, which is kind of my strong suit, going to try see reason based or some people call mechanical reads.
5) So you don't know how to put what you saw into words. Great. Don't know how this makes me scum, but again another great town tell.

If this is all there is on me, I pray for the towns future.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 12:28 am

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In post 240, Gorkington wrote:okay fire assassin you get some homework.
i want a readslist.
and i want you to give one sentence explanations for each read.
if you dont do this then you get to be the day one lynch.

Nah, I will do so if I feel it is necessary.
How is your day going though?
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:10 am

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In post 221, Roshar wrote:@xkfyu, why do you think androgybee is probably town?

Just a weak meta read right now, based off the way Nahdia reacted to the "ewwww" post.

In post 221, Roshar wrote:Now what came after with Xkfyu voting for him was pretty interesting. And it took him a while to find it scummy. I don't agree with this:
If he didn't pick up on it, then I think it is still more likely to come from scum, because I believe scum would be more quick to jump something like that, without giving it a second thought, than town.

Town can be as well. If this was Maru's only point, I'd consider this argument, but he had like 4 other points (granted, I didn't understand what he saw as scummy) but he had them. Xfyu, What took you so long to vote for Maru? Why didn't you do it outright after he posted his wall post?

You say that as if I waited a really long time. I put my vote down a mere 55 minutes after his wall post. During which time, I was in a conversation with Gork about that very thing. It didn't take me a while to find it scummy. I found it scummy immediately. But if I immediately move my vote every time I see something scummy, then I would be constantly unvoting/voting. Ain't nobody got time for that!
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:15 am

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In post 223, androgybee wrote:^ ~Nahdia

also im kind of wishy-washy on my Xkfyu read tbh. i didn't out it since i wanted to talk it over with my other head but basically Xkfyu felt kind of different here from elsewhere ive played with him (kind of more jovial/peppy?) and i was sort of thinking it might be kind of an overcompensation for him not wanting to play scum so i kind of had a scumread on him? but catching up i did actually like his posts since i tended to agree with the things he was saying. but it's possible the points were really obvious ones to make. idk. wary of that slot in particular. just wanted to tack this one cuz it didn't really have any place in the catchup post

~Nahdia

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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:19 am

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Are you loving this game?
Also, what is NM doing? Worst play I’ve ever seen.
I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.
I'm guessing you haven't read the game and probably never will? Why even sign up to play?
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 1:22 am

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In post 245, Not_Mafia wrote:Are you loving this game?

I am.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:22 am

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In post 165, Gorkington wrote:
In post 164, Maruchan wrote:Glorkington while still being semi-new is playing into these interactions too much.
did you know that i got a scummy for being on the best town for 2015?
that's probably something else that you can use to scumread me for my too bad to be excused by newness push youre using.

I misread your join date and thought it was LAST November, Yeah, you're not new at all. No excuses.
In post 167, Not_Mafia wrote:Are you really that deaf to sarcasm Maruchan?

>deaf to sarcasm
>deaf
>internet
>sarcasm
>hardest tone of voice to interpret over the internet
Yes, I am the one in the wrong here.
Also, if you're implying that the only content we have from gorkington so far is sarcasm, then my vote STILL stands.
In post 168, Gorkington wrote:tierlist:
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titus/radja [also untouchable today]
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Ah. So first, you blindly say im a townread without reasons. Then you ignored my question about your town read of me. Then you see I voted you. Now I'm on the scum side of your list. Interesting series of events. Care to give any content concerning them?
In post 169, Xkfyu wrote:You just gonna scum read me and ignore my questions?

Oh hey, this guy has the same problem I have with gorkington. Can either of us get a read from you with actual reasosn bro?
In post 182, Xkfyu wrote:(which was clearly sarcasm)

>clearly sarcasm
>internet
Oh, I forgot that I was playing with a bunch of psychics. No I did not read his post as sarcasm at all. I read it as someone who legitimately has problems with votes on them, and tried to make a joke to make it less obvious he was literally having a problem with people's votes on him
In post 185, Xkfyu wrote:I certainly don't think town Maruchan plays......

Have you done any meta reading of my past town games to justify this level of certainty with which you judge my town-play? Or is this just a "Oh NOBODY as town would do X" in which case, go do some meta before you atempt to claim you know my town game well enough to say what I would or would not do. I have never once in a single game I can remember playing as town, avoided being the scummiest player on a number of other players' read lists by the end of day 1. I have a very abrasive personality that people gut-read "scum" without question. Go feel free to meta dive me and check it bro.


#192 lol @ assassin deciding to tunnel me without even refuting or even acknowledging any comments I made regarding him. Methink he skimmed my wall because he dislikes walls, and decided to tunnel me after seeing how everyone else's perception of me was "scum". Opportunistic much bro?
In post 201, Ircher wrote:Gorkington still has failed to expand on his current reads....

Gorkington still has failed to respond to any question or request posed to him regarding his reads or changes of his reads, and just continues attempting to make snide humor comments, that fail to provide humor.
Also, what is GMT +3??

The Ocean in the areas around the Horn of Africa, the Gulf of Oman, the Persion Gulf, and every other body of water above the equator in the middle east. These span like 4 different time zones, however my little floating piece of 500 feet of Soveriegn US "soil" has decided our "local" time will be GMT +3 for the time being. I don't know anything more specific than that.
In post 220, Aristophanes wrote:Amished tell?

This is the most supid "tell" to ever be named in the history of Mafia. I have NEVER seen a scum slot play an "Amished Tell". I have ALWAYS "Amished Told" as town slots. This needs to not exist, and people who contineu to think it's a thing need to die in a fire.
In post 221, Roshar wrote:He's taking the game very seriously and looks invested.

Apparently this is no longer OK. I take all my mafia games seriously. When I'm dedicating a portion of my free time for the next 1-6 months to a specific pasttime, I tend to take that pasttime seriously and don't treat it frivolously. Which is why I'm finding this game more and more tedious. Assassin and Gork both seem to be the kind of people who refuse to take anything in life seriously and will avoid any serious requests of them in any way shape or form without turning it into a stupid joke.

however, whether the specific way in which gork worded his request to have his votes on him fixed was a sarcastic quip, the fact that he felt the need to specifically ask the mod to remove a vote from him, rather than just asking the mod if there were any errors in the votecount, came across scummy. Sarcasm or not I found that whole thing scummy as fuck. When you're at 2 votes in a 12p game that is still within its first week and was (at that time) mostly RVS/RWS/wahtever they call it these days stage, and you're woried enough to point out that you're getting overvoted, rather than letting the person whose vote IS on the wrong person point it out, shows a level of paranoia I am uncomfortable with.
@ androgybee's 122, while I LOVE the level of detail of your wallpost, I HATE the way you jsut link posts without making any mention of who posted it. I don't have good enough internet to open every page and reference your comments to the content that happened at that time. Makes it hard for me to follow your stream of thought.
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:46 am

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In post 247, Maruchan wrote:Also, if you're implying that the only content we have from gorkington so far is sarcasm, then my vote STILL stands.
are you voting me with increasing certainty because of what not mafia is saying?
thats just unfair man.
at least scumread me for things that im doing and not things that other people are doing. :(
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 6:48 am

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maruchan wrote:Gorkington still has failed to respond to any question or request posed to him regarding his reads or changes of his reads, and just continues attempting to make snide humor comments, that fail to provide humor.
oooo did you want me to double down on my cheeky bullshit? because you ignoring me actually giving content in the form of a case to continue this hilarious tirade against me having fun in this game is just amazing and you really are just incentivizing me at this point.

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