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Post Post #3 (isolation #0) » Thu Apr 07, 2016 6:33 pm

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I like your style RC
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Post Post #8 (isolation #1) » Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:15 am

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Now THIS is a welcome party heHahHHAHAHAH

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Post Post #71 (isolation #2) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:58 pm

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HEHAHEHAHAHAH greatest game ever
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Post Post #72 (isolation #3) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:59 pm

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Post Post #74 (isolation #4) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:01 pm

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UT isn't werewolf thats a bullshit read
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Post Post #75 (isolation #5) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:02 pm

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You have you had your date with Destiny yet RC?

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Post Post #77 (isolation #6) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:06 pm

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Fate is what happens to you when you don't make plans

that's why I wonder if you're even really alive RC
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Post Post #79 (isolation #7) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:08 pm

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H wait you're the one who thinks UT is werewolf, wtf?
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Post Post #80 (isolation #8) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:09 pm

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I see you really haven't met Fate then
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Post Post #82 (isolation #9) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:17 pm

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damn the circle is real

or is it a spiral

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Post Post #83 (isolation #10) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:18 pm

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In post 66, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 59, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 56, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 29, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 27, Dystopian Vision wrote:Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

You were starting a wagon in response to a wagon. How is that "superficially" a counterwagon?

This post also looks like distancing

the key difference is that I wasn't voting to stop an RVS wagon but rather to express an actual scumread on one player who I was actually scumreading.

distancing from...what exactly?

Distancing from itlepip


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Post Post #85 (isolation #11) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:20 pm

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sorry I mixed up you and DV in my mind

but still on the chance that you're scum I wouldn't be able to see it yet
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Post Post #86 (isolation #12) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:24 pm

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You're not easy my fear by refusing to talk about actual game things with me
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Post Post #88 (isolation #13) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:26 pm

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DONT YOU WANT TO DANCE RC
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Post Post #89 (isolation #14) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:27 pm

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There you are

like I quoted DV saying UT was distancing from itlepip with his vote
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Post Post #92 (isolation #15) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:30 pm

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Post Post #95 (isolation #16) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:54 pm

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I was agreeing while busy starting a League game

Not for the same reasons obviously but I agree with your points. I just think the scumread of UT as itelpip's partner is unnatural
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Post Post #99 (isolation #17) » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:49 am

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In post 66, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 59, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 56, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 29, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 27, Dystopian Vision wrote:Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

You were starting a wagon in response to a wagon. How is that "superficially" a counterwagon?

This post also looks like distancing

the key difference is that I wasn't voting to stop an RVS wagon but rather to express an actual scumread on one player who I was actually scumreading.

distancing from...what exactly?

Distancing from itlepip

In post 66, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 59, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 56, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 29, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 27, Dystopian Vision wrote:Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

You were starting a wagon in response to a wagon. How is that "superficially" a counterwagon?

This post also looks like distancing

the key difference is that I wasn't voting to stop an RVS wagon but rather to express an actual scumread on one player who I was actually scumreading.

distancing from...what exactly?

Distancing from itlepip

In post 66, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 59, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 56, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 29, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 27, Dystopian Vision wrote:Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

You were starting a wagon in response to a wagon. How is that "superficially" a counterwagon?

This post also looks like distancing

the key difference is that I wasn't voting to stop an RVS wagon but rather to express an actual scumread on one player who I was actually scumreading.

distancing from...what exactly?

Distancing from itlepip

In post 66, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 59, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 56, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 29, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 27, Dystopian Vision wrote:Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

You were starting a wagon in response to a wagon. How is that "superficially" a counterwagon?

This post also looks like distancing

the key difference is that I wasn't voting to stop an RVS wagon but rather to express an actual scumread on one player who I was actually scumreading.

distancing from...what exactly?

Distancing from itlepip

In post 66, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 59, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 56, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 29, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 27, Dystopian Vision wrote:Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

You were starting a wagon in response to a wagon. How is that "superficially" a counterwagon?

This post also looks like distancing

the key difference is that I wasn't voting to stop an RVS wagon but rather to express an actual scumread on one player who I was actually scumreading.

distancing from...what exactly?

Distancing from itlepip

In post 66, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 59, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 56, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 29, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 27, Dystopian Vision wrote:Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

You were starting a wagon in response to a wagon. How is that "superficially" a counterwagon?

This post also looks like distancing

the key difference is that I wasn't voting to stop an RVS wagon but rather to express an actual scumread on one player who I was actually scumreading.

distancing from...what exactly?

Distancing from itlepip

In post 66, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 59, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 56, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 29, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 27, Dystopian Vision wrote:Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

You were starting a wagon in response to a wagon. How is that "superficially" a counterwagon?

This post also looks like distancing

the key difference is that I wasn't voting to stop an RVS wagon but rather to express an actual scumread on one player who I was actually scumreading.

distancing from...what exactly?

Distancing from itlepip

In post 66, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 59, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 56, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 29, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 27, Dystopian Vision wrote:Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

You were starting a wagon in response to a wagon. How is that "superficially" a counterwagon?

This post also looks like distancing

the key difference is that I wasn't voting to stop an RVS wagon but rather to express an actual scumread on one player who I was actually scumreading.

distancing from...what exactly?

Distancing from itlepip

In post 66, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 59, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 56, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 29, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 27, Dystopian Vision wrote:Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

You were starting a wagon in response to a wagon. How is that "superficially" a counterwagon?

This post also looks like distancing

the key difference is that I wasn't voting to stop an RVS wagon but rather to express an actual scumread on one player who I was actually scumreading.

distancing from...what exactly?

Distancing from itlepip

In post 66, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 59, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 56, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 29, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 27, Dystopian Vision wrote:Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

You were starting a wagon in response to a wagon. How is that "superficially" a counterwagon?

This post also looks like distancing

the key difference is that I wasn't voting to stop an RVS wagon but rather to express an actual scumread on one player who I was actually scumreading.

distancing from...what exactly?

Distancing from itlepip

In post 66, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 59, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 56, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 29, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 27, Dystopian Vision wrote:Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

You were starting a wagon in response to a wagon. How is that "superficially" a counterwagon?

This post also looks like distancing

the key difference is that I wasn't voting to stop an RVS wagon but rather to express an actual scumread on one player who I was actually scumreading.

distancing from...what exactly?

Distancing from itlepip



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Post Post #100 (isolation #18) » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:50 am

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you called me scum UT, you have to die
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Post Post #103 (isolation #19) » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:53 am

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I really want a flawless victory too

would be a great comeback game

need a boost to my ego so I can reach previous levels of arrogance
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Post Post #105 (isolation #20) » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:58 am

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In post 28, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 3, Fate wrote:
Vote: ChilledTea


I like your style RC

also
vote Fate


wasn't a huge fan of this vote given the flip


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Post Post #106 (isolation #21) » Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:58 am

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In post 96, Untrod Tripod wrote:what the fuck are you doing, Fate


yeah this is how you talk to a scumread sure
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Post Post #108 (isolation #22) » Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:20 am

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Appreciating a playstyle during the RVS is buddying

is that really all you can stretch for fake reads right now
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Post Post #110 (isolation #23) » Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:41 am

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enjoyable fluff is now buddying

man a lot of things have changed

theres no way town UT reads that interaction as buddying
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Post Post #156 (isolation #24) » Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:29 am

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ONE SCUM AT A TIME PEOPLE
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Post Post #157 (isolation #25) » Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:30 am

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Kill you've taken this way too far. No one's townreading you for this shit its just like how do you lynch that shit

its like trying to have sex with a species that you don't know how they reproduce
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Post Post #158 (isolation #26) » Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:32 am

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The only reason I'd compromise on my UT lynch is way too many hydras
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Post Post #160 (isolation #27) » Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:33 am

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In post 16, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 12, itlepip wrote:VOTE: ChilledteaVOTE:

:P careful that I spell it right

hooray, we're out of RVS


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when I saw the flip and this post my mind immediately went "oh he was trying to derail a RVS wagon by pointing out it was RVS and hoping it wouldn't go further"
UT is scum with chilledtea like sometimes it really is that simple people
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Post Post #161 (isolation #28) » Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:34 am

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A vote on UT would redeem your slot especially since thats the only content you've posted so far
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Post Post #163 (isolation #29) » Wed Apr 13, 2016 12:53 am

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you can post in chinese for all I care if you at least vote like you're playing the game
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Post Post #165 (isolation #30) » Wed Apr 13, 2016 1:22 am

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No
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Post Post #184 (isolation #31) » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:13 pm

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NO WAY IN FUCKING HELL ARE WE NOT LYNCHING THE COP WHO VOTED ME AND IS CLAIMING AN INNOCENT ON ME

WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THIS
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Post Post #185 (isolation #32) » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:16 pm

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oh no result

so he's basically claiming roleblocked and will keep claiming it every day.

Can I even trust you fucks to lynch him when I'm gone
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Post Post #186 (isolation #33) » Wed Apr 13, 2016 10:16 pm

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Unvote:
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Post Post #189 (isolation #34) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:54 am

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talk with your vote not your constant alt slipping
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Post Post #190 (isolation #35) » Thu Apr 14, 2016 12:54 am

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if only RC is ok with UT's claim then he dies today
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Post Post #238 (isolation #36) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:43 am

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In post 214, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 206, Untrod Tripod wrote:from purely a setup-spec perspective:

that would be a really bad idea as that could very easily end up with a no-win scenario for both scum factions because of massclaims. RCs suggestion is far more likely than "throw in a bunch of docs and roleblockers and bps"

If scum has a role-cop they would be able to tailor their claim to what the setup looks like

I don't think that's an unreasonable role to assume


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Post Post #239 (isolation #37) » Fri Apr 15, 2016 1:44 am

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In post 236, ɀefiend wrote:
In post 184, Fate wrote:NO WAY IN FUCKING HELL ARE WE NOT LYNCHING THE COP WHO VOTED ME AND IS CLAIMING AN INNOCENT ON ME

WHAT KIND OF BULLSHIT IS THIS

Does anyone else read this as... fake?

Like, whether UT is real or not, the idea that he would mess up a result just seems so contrived -- its only purpose being to elicit a reaction such as the one above.


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Post Post #241 (isolation #38) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 12:08 am

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There's just not enough support for UT right now. Looks like its gonna take a few days of his BS results

Does anyone else care in this game? Thoughts on DV
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Post Post #243 (isolation #39) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 2:28 am

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hmmm when did your read on KTS turn to scum from just policy lynch?

ALso Zefiend really is a player in this game not at an alt slip?

His slots literally done nothing then but try to throw shade on me
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Post Post #248 (isolation #40) » Sat Apr 16, 2016 1:06 pm

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Poisoning the well? You literally made two posts before that one, ofc I'd forgotten you and assumed you were a Hydra head or alt.

What is there to respond to? If you don't understand the rage at temporarily thinking that your scumread botched his claim by having an innocent on a main scumread of his I can't help you.

I need what you think of DV and RC to give me a better sense of your alignment. Can't tell if you're conservative scum or misguided town
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Post Post #289 (isolation #41) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:27 pm

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what the fuck is this
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Post Post #290 (isolation #42) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:27 pm

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This type of wagon really should go onto Kill, but DYSTOPIAN VISION NEVER HAS STOPPED BEING SCUM PEOPLE
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Post Post #292 (isolation #43) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:33 pm

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Well I like you for town zefiend, thanks for elaborating on your thought process.

I used to have a meta built up so people let me do whatever I want but now that thats gone I guess it has to be restablish.

If I have a reaction I have to post it, it just comes out, its how I show what is happening internally and that lets people read me correct me.

Then yes I did go back and re-read because no one seemed to be reacting to UT's post in the way I would expect for what I thought it was. I don't understand why the speed of my reading and posting comes as a surprise/scummy to you?
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Post Post #293 (isolation #44) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:34 pm

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yessiree bob's vote is awful too
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Post Post #295 (isolation #45) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 7:58 pm

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Its been mostly gut and since RC is a fellow gut player who sees the same thing I've felt that confirms what I'm feeling

as for a coherent case...
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Post Post #296 (isolation #46) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:02 pm

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In post 66, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 59, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 56, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 29, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 27, Dystopian Vision wrote:Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

You were starting a wagon in response to a wagon. How is that "superficially" a counterwagon?

This post also looks like distancing

the key difference is that I wasn't voting to stop an RVS wagon but rather to express an actual scumread on one player who I was actually scumreading.

distancing from...what exactly?

Distancing from itlepip


Mostly the read of UT as werewolf just seems fabricated and BS. I've said this before but it doesn't feel like a natural at all read to have. Itlepip puts someone at L-1 and UT immediately comes in and tries to pain the wagon on mafia guy as RVS and start a REAL one on his partner? Just seems like something they made up without thinking it through to have a read today.

Their exchange with RC was also off, and then they go on to vote ME because they didn't like how I was pushing UT? Like where did there read on UT go? They are just conveniently swapping votes with reasons on the spot, its scum behavior. The dissonance between the heads in thread is even more of a reason for them to be able to move their vote around conveniently.
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Post Post #297 (isolation #47) » Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:03 pm

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I should be clear I also think DV is Werewolf because thats where I think the UT read came up with. Like a sort of "lets pretend to start looking for a werewolf, because thats what the last werewolf definitely WOULDNT do right?" tactic
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Post Post #315 (isolation #48) » Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:04 pm

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In post 116, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 99, Fate wrote:READ PLS

I don't understand how you can vote for UT and still push this

But yes I got the itlepip and chilledtea slots backwards


this is the first mention of that right?
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Post Post #316 (isolation #49) » Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:05 pm

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In post 21, Dystopian Vision wrote:Vodka shots for all.

I am pretty sure Cakey is not mafia for what it's worth. Cakey wouldn't push the "Titus is always scum" RVS vote tell as chilledtea's partner.

UT likely isn't WW given his vote and pip then hammering.

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yet here you clearly seem to have chilledtea ...

hmmm

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Post Post #317 (isolation #50) » Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:07 pm

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hmmmmmmmmmmmmrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Yessiree Bob and UT are still scum at least


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Post Post #319 (isolation #51) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:47 am

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DV why aren't you voting
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Post Post #320 (isolation #52) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 1:50 am

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you've cleared up some misunderstandings but if you don't have reads you're still in the dog house
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Post Post #327 (isolation #53) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:25 pm

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I haven't hammered someone in a long time


I almost

just want to have

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again

but the town blood is so hard to wash out of my clothes
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Post Post #328 (isolation #54) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:25 pm

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oh RC has been V/LA that explains about half the apathy

DV lurking during this time is even worse
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Post Post #331 (isolation #55) » Tue Apr 19, 2016 3:38 pm

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Nothings going anywhere Cakez. I think you might have to die for this game to progress at this rate

but I will practice patience
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Post Post #371 (isolation #56) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:52 pm

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RC you are my spiritual successor. The mindset of "we can lynch easy scum later when I'm gone" is something I've said verbatim many times, so that's erased any doubt I had in you
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Post Post #372 (isolation #57) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:53 pm

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The RC wagon is making really regret not hammering Sir Cakez who is a less valuable townie
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Post Post #373 (isolation #58) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:57 pm

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In post 354, ɀefiend wrote:SirCakez, can you tell me why you keep sticking me as scum? You do realize I've had ample time to casually hammer you, right?

Anyway, time to move my vote away from Fate. I actually liked the responses I got from him. VOTE: yessiree bob


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Post Post #374 (isolation #59) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:58 pm

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In post 362, Killthestory wrote:
In post 347, Dystopian Vision wrote:Oh flub mentioned something about reads list

Cakey - Town (way he reacted to me pushing him being not mafia was townie)
Fate - Lean town but little minor nag doubts
UT - Not WW, maybe maf, given he's not ww most likely little desire to lynch
I like Bob on a gut level. Different from his scum game but it's ancient

RC is scum.

That's where I am at.

these reads are absolutely terrible


well hey there's this wagon on DV I'd like to invite you to join
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yeah I read that after and just facepalmed

still don't know what to say to that
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Post Post #377 (isolation #61) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:05 pm

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zefiend is the worst vote on RC though in terms of scumminess
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I think that gives him way too much credit
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I mean it looked natural as a vote even if it was naturally bad if that makes sense
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Post Post #382 (isolation #64) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 6:54 pm

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oh are you talking about zefiends or Kills

because Zefiends is scum as fuck yeah
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Post Post #385 (isolation #65) » Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:14 pm

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That post is ironic as hell given your relative contributions to this game
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I've explained my own continued discomfort with DV's slot. RC and I are probably on the same length because we both approach the game in similar ways and are town

I don't see where you're coming from when RC's stances on people have been very clear this game.

It just seems like you're using a playstyle difference "he doesn't explain his reads in the way I want" as an excuse to vote him to L-2 and that's just bullshit
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zefiend thats the most dissonance I've seen in awhile.

RC's vote on Cakez because he isn't townreading him is no good

but you're free to vote RC to get a read on him? Using "oh I just want to see more about his alignment I'm not scum reading him"

I'm starting to think there are 5 scum somehow
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Dystopian voting RC for "omg you didn't correct Fate about us not lurking HOW SCUM IS THAT" is still the scummiest thing in the game right now.

I don't know why Cakez wouldn't come up with some reason to vote RC at this point if he was really scum, that should be enough
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Titus y u mad ur fakeclaim didnt work out
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RC's claim is consistent with his play.

DV"s is NOT

also the conclusion that "SirCakez is town" based on going nowhere is some bullshit as well
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In post 214, Dystopian Vision wrote:
In post 206, Untrod Tripod wrote:from purely a setup-spec perspective:

that would be a really bad idea as that could very easily end up with a no-win scenario for both scum factions because of massclaims. RCs suggestion is far more likely than "throw in a bunch of docs and roleblockers and bps"

If scum has a role-cop they would be able to tailor their claim to what the setup looks like

I don't think that's an unreasonable role to assume


I'll just leave this here

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Speed of the wagon is how you defend your townread on him? That's weak.

Even now you're still voting RC?

"Fakeclaiming to get the lynch he wants"

Even if that's so (Very unlikely here), is that SCUM BEHAVIOR?

There's no way you have a town mindset this game.

Yesiree bob how about you look at reads instead of claim verifiability. We already discussed Werewolf tracker possibility and oh yeah hey scum FAKECLAIM thats kinda the point. Go with the dayplay here
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there are way too many scum in this game
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Post Post #475 (isolation #74) » Sun Apr 24, 2016 12:31 pm

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either way lynch yesiree bob, and zefiend.

UT looks like he might actually be town but he's coasted so hard that I'd lynch him too
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Post Post #492 (isolation #75) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:07 pm

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the NL plan is the optimal play yes
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Post Post #494 (isolation #76) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:13 pm

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getting to odd numbers?

that was the thing back in the day
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Post Post #496 (isolation #77) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:17 pm

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I wasn't
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Post Post #497 (isolation #78) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:18 pm

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I mean yesiree bob is just scum、you're right
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Post Post #501 (isolation #79) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:27 pm

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why the hell would the last mafia roleblock the Seer?

Aliens are usually thirdparty or their own team

is this some 2-2-1-5 cult bullshit
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Post Post #502 (isolation #80) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:29 pm

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I want bob to claim, the zefiend, then killthestory
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Post Post #503 (isolation #81) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:30 pm

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maybe SirCakez before kill
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Post Post #506 (isolation #82) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:31 pm

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after massclaim it should be clear
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Post Post #507 (isolation #83) » Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:33 pm

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if I was sure I would've just claimed a guilty on you and been done with it
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Post Post #534 (isolation #84) » Fri Apr 29, 2016 4:09 pm

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Your reason is scum as fuck

"lol NO WAY WERE SCUM WITH CHILLEDTEA HOW CAN FATE THINK THAT"

like what is that defense? did anyone have interactions with Chilledtea that were meaningful?
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Post Post #537 (isolation #85) » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:22 am

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HHEHAHAHAHA

CLAIMED SCUM?
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Post Post #538 (isolation #86) » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:23 am

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YOU WERE HOPING BEING THE THIRD VOTE ON CHILLEDTEAS WAGON WOULD LET YOU COAST TO ENDGAME?

VOTE: YESIREE BOB

YOUR MISTAKE WAS TRYING TO USE ME AS A MISLYNCH
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Post Post #539 (isolation #87) » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:26 am

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I ACCEPT YOUR 1V1 CHALLENGE


FUCK NO LYNCHING IM NOT LIVING ANYOTHER CAMN NIGHTMARE

IM LYNCHING SCUM

WHILE IM ALIVE

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Post Post #540 (isolation #88) » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:28 am

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NO ONES AWAKE TO SATE MY BLOODLUST ARE THEY
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Post Post #542 (isolation #89) » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:44 pm

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no

whats worse is him using it as some sort of defense

but then not ALSO using it to scumhunt.

He's using it merely as his SCUMLORD SHIELD LOOK AT ME I DID SOMETHING

and not trying to figure out the GAME with it.

Instead we get this half'assed "OH YOU DONT THINK IM TOWN CUZMY PRETTY SHIELD? UR CLAIMIN SCUM LOLZ"

I'm completely ok with UT being the only marr to our perfect sweep (<3 u UT)
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Post Post #545 (isolation #90) » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:07 pm

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IS THAT A RC VOTE?

LOLWTF
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Post Post #548 (isolation #91) » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:47 pm

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No, but that's irrelevant to RCs alignment
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Post Post #557 (isolation #92) » Sun May 01, 2016 1:27 am

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"occasionally" ?

I had a Title Capital Punishment for awhile

But it didn't suit my like DGB's title <3

I'll let you guys lynch scum going v/la for 2 days.

FTR I don't know what the fuck is going on with RC or his role, but his dayplay is town so w/e.
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Post Post #558 (isolation #93) » Sun May 01, 2016 1:29 am

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Like I usually understand an angle scum is trying to mislynch with but

what the fuck is this

"LOOK AT WHO FATE HAS CALLED SCUM AND LOOK AT WHOS ALIVE"

uhh what?
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Post Post #571 (isolation #94) » Mon May 02, 2016 9:53 pm

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hard to come up with two mislynch targets when you're on the edge clinging to life right

Admit it you were going to push some bullshit RC angle tomorrow if you somehow moved mountains to lynch me
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Post Post #580 (isolation #95) » Fri May 06, 2016 1:51 pm

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Awesome, now we can't lose.

Zefiend who did you jailkeep?
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Post Post #582 (isolation #96) » Fri May 06, 2016 1:54 pm

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what the hell?
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Post Post #584 (isolation #97) » Fri May 06, 2016 4:34 pm

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I highly doubt that there's 4-5 scum with only two town power roles then
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Post Post #595 (isolation #98) » Fri May 06, 2016 8:47 pm

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Zefiend do you have some post restriction or something

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Post Post #596 (isolation #99) » Fri May 06, 2016 8:47 pm

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If KTS got jailkept we lynch KTS and win

If thats what the stolen from thing is

and if the games not over then its 5 scum and we lynch Zefiend for being a fucking alien light bringer thief nonsense
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Post Post #598 (isolation #100) » Fri May 06, 2016 9:07 pm

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KTS despite your horseshit all game I've thought you were town

you're more town than Sir Cakez that's for sure

But if you go and start drinking moonbeams about me being scum we're nto going to figure this game out
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Post Post #600 (isolation #101) » Fri May 06, 2016 9:31 pm

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Post Post #601 (isolation #102) » Fri May 06, 2016 9:47 pm

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can you just elaborate on what the hell you meant by being stolen from
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Post Post #603 (isolation #103) » Fri May 06, 2016 11:47 pm

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Post Post #604 (isolation #104) » Fri May 06, 2016 11:48 pm

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LOOK IF SIRCAKEZ IS SCUM AND ZEFIENDS A FUCKING ALIEN NOWS NOT THE TIME FOR YOU FUCKIN AROUN TROLLPOSTING
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Post Post #634 (isolation #105) » Sat May 07, 2016 5:29 pm

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The fuck is going on in not home


Don't lynch ANYONE until I'm caught up
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Post Post #640 (isolation #106) » Sun May 08, 2016 12:23 am

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zefiend I don't trust you one fucking bit

and that cheeky alien message

I'm still on the same page as RC.

Lynching Zefiend first is the play here. KTS is already confirmed mafia if you're really a jailkeeper so, what's this percentages bullshit?
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Post Post #641 (isolation #107) » Sun May 08, 2016 12:26 am

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Vote: zefiend
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Post Post #642 (isolation #108) » Sun May 08, 2016 12:28 am

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I regret outing you as the obvious Jailkeeper.

Should've waited to see what shady shit you tried to pull off on your own

I basically handed you your fakeclaim didn't I
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Post Post #643 (isolation #109) » Sun May 08, 2016 12:28 am

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I dont even know where I got jailkeeper from

You're jsut a goddamn roleblocker thief alien thing arent you
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Post Post #644 (isolation #110) » Sun May 08, 2016 12:30 am

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In post 605, ɀefiend wrote:Here are some things I
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1) I'm not seeing how it's auto-town-win. If KTS flips town, the last mafia can simply NK. Then RC and I still have a 50/50 between SC and Fate.

2) The town can win while I am still alive. Lynching me does not advance the town's win condition.


3) I apologize in advance Fate. You're just a little too talkative ;)

VOTE: Killthestory
THIS IS A SCUM CLAIM IN CASE YOU MISSED IT KTS
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Post Post #662 (isolation #111) » Sun May 08, 2016 6:44 pm

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In post 653, ɀefiend wrote:RC is clear

KTS is clear

I am obvious to anyone reading the game and sided with the town. I also got targeted for the NK last night, which fucked my strategy.

I've handed the win to town on a silver platter. If you wanna misslynch me and throw that away, be my guest.

VOTE: Fate

This will be my last post toDay.
LOL WHAT IS THIS?

A FATE VOTE?

SO you jailkept KTS, there was no kill, and you're voting ME?

There's no way this is a town mindset
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Post Post #682 (isolation #112) » Mon May 09, 2016 12:46 pm

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Ok KTS is confirmed mafia with that vote

I have no idea what you're on about Zefiend, but again if you jailkeeper KTS and there was no kill how is he not confirmed scum from you PoV? Thats wahts throwing me.



Unvote:
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Post Post #683 (isolation #113) » Mon May 09, 2016 12:48 pm

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RC this has NOTHING to do with SirCakez.

Either we believe Zefiends alien win con aligns with town or not

Either way KTS is scum based on the blocked kill


It just sounds like he's claiming alien cult recruiter but who the fuck knows
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Post Post #685 (isolation #114) » Mon May 09, 2016 12:52 pm

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Getting Zefiend to full claim was what suited the town best

You've bewn the last scum since the start of day if you were Zefiends target like I thought
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Post Post #687 (isolation #115) » Mon May 09, 2016 1:19 pm

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What the hell is this talk about Zefiend getting attacked?

Are you claiming bulletproof that lost your vest??
Unvote


KTS if you're town unvote or SirCakez I'd going to hammer

Zefiend if you knre you had been shot WHY SID YOU VOTE KTS AND CLAIM A GUILTY ON HIM?


There's two scum left we can't waste a mislynch on me and Zefiends story had been changing
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Post Post #689 (isolation #116) » Mon May 09, 2016 1:21 pm

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I was going by day reads but Zefiends role has fucked everything up in that department

You need to unvote
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Post Post #691 (isolation #117) » Mon May 09, 2016 1:23 pm

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I strongly that Zefiend is scum since his play hasn't been consistent with his claim

But there's also the last mafia so we CANNOT MISLYNCH ME TODAY

We need to lynch scum both days that's why Zefiend is the best shot


I'm on my fucking phone KTS I haven't read fully

Just slow the day down to nail Zefiend to his fakeclaim
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Post Post #693 (isolation #118) » Mon May 09, 2016 1:26 pm

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In post 675, RadiantCowbells wrote:Alien is an alternate interpretation of Jailkeeper.
I can go along with you having a jailkeep role.

What I don't understand is how you /know/ that you had an attempt made on your life.

What IS your win condition?
Basically this needs to be answered


He went from voting you like you were confirmed scum KTS which you are if he jakept you, to some weird I know I've been attacked therefore KTa is clear?


Ate you fucking dense or just scum profiting off Zefiends fakeclaim? Seriously
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Post Post #695 (isolation #119) » Mon May 09, 2016 2:17 pm

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???

1st thing that happened:
Zefiend claims guilty on you because jailkeep+nokill

Is this what happened or not Zefiend?

Later alien posts and soft claims:

Zefiend claims to have been attacked and this=Fate scum


Am I missing anything from anyone not KTS?
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Post Post #698 (isolation #120) » Mon May 09, 2016 4:56 pm

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pretty clearly a vanilla townie
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Post Post #700 (isolation #121) » Mon May 09, 2016 5:00 pm

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I'm home now so let me lay it out for you real slow so that your vote me is basically claiming scum KTS:

FIRST WE HAVE THIS:
In post 605, ɀefiend wrote:Here are some things I
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1) I'm not seeing how it's auto-town-win. If KTS flips town, the last mafia can simply NK. Then RC and I still have a 50/50 between SC and Fate.

2) The town can win while I am still alive. Lynching me does not advance the town's win condition.

3) I apologize in advance Fate. You're just a little too talkative ;)

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Zefiend has jailkept KTS, there was no kill, KTS=scum because as Sir Cakez said scum nokilling last night is a misplay.

I was fine with this, I was fine with lynching KTS, Zefiend started crumbing some 3rd party shit and RC wanted him to full claim which I agreed needed to happen, so I voted him.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #122) » Mon May 09, 2016 5:03 pm

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In post 622, ɀefiend wrote:I can't say any more, so have fun with that. If I get lynched, you die toNight and then town has a 1/3 chance to win.

KTS lynch today, SC lynch tomorrow, 67% town win. Probably 100 unless Fate is scum, then I ain't even mad.

SC lynch today, +\- 50% town win.

Voting me is playing to the worst odds. You will be responsible for tanking one of the best town starts ever into the shitter.
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Don't lynch ANYONE until I'm caught up
I strongly encourage you to vote KTS as soon as possible.

It may not matter, but if it does matter, it will be crucially important as long as RC continues being stubborn.
Here is Zefiend pushing to lynch KTS harder, wanting him to be lynched because it is the simplest explanation of KTS being the last mafia and was stopped from killing.
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Post Post #702 (isolation #123) » Mon May 09, 2016 5:06 pm

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In post 649, ɀefiend wrote:VOTE: Unvote

We are not lynching KTS. We are lynching one of Fate or SC today, and the other tomorrow.

I now know with 100% certainty that I was the attempted night kill. The mafia must have thought that I interfere with their win condition. Bad for me cuz I got shot, but good for the town as a whole if you choose to believe me.

It actually is an auto-win for town as long as you don't waste a misslynch on me. KTS is clear, and RC is clear.

And stop asking me to fucking claim. If any of you could read between the lines you'd realize why I haven't claimed. I've been crumbling everywhere though, as early as D2.
THEN THIS HAPPENS??


What happened between those two posts which changed?

What happened during the DAY that changed Zefiend from "I jailkept killing scum last night" to "I 100% know I was the kill"

Nothing, there's no role that gets delayed information like that that I've ever heard of.

So if nothing changed then Zefiend went from KTS being scum to KTS being clear because he was NKd while KTS was jailkept???
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Post Post #703 (isolation #124) » Mon May 09, 2016 5:08 pm

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The only thing I can think of is Zefiend does not win when the last mafia is dead (highly likely KTS given his complete refusal to understand that Zefiend is lying here)

So he switched into a mislynch of me and that puts town in prisoner's dillema tomorrow
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Post Post #705 (isolation #125) » Mon May 09, 2016 6:32 pm

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I don't speak Alien Zefiend
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Post Post #707 (isolation #126) » Tue May 10, 2016 11:33 am

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yeah its 8 kinds of horseshit, but he's very definitely not mafia

Given you actually reading the same game as me it has to be KTS
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Post Post #709 (isolation #127) » Tue May 10, 2016 11:43 am

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Like I said he probably doesn't win with town so he has to lynch town today and then prisoner's dill-

wait why am I talking to scum

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Post Post #712 (isolation #128) » Tue May 10, 2016 11:47 am

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Well if for some reason its you SirCakez and KTS Is just pants on head clownmode, its 3p lylo tomorrow

Do you think Zefiend has a kill?
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Post Post #713 (isolation #129) » Tue May 10, 2016 11:47 am

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HE HAS BEEN LYING ABOUT HIS RESULTS I THINK IVE FUCKING PROVED THAT GIVEN HIS VOTE HISTORY AND HIS CLAIM TODAY
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Post Post #715 (isolation #130) » Tue May 10, 2016 11:49 am

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ITT:

Fate-Here let me lay it all out on the table so we can put the pieces together
KTS-LOLYOUMAKENOSENSEWORDSOWRDSWORDS FLAILMOAR
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Post Post #723 (isolation #131) » Tue May 10, 2016 1:21 pm

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Zefiend there is no way you vote KTS with the information you are claiming to have

there is no way that information "comes" to you during the day for mysterious reasons by posting alien codes
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Post Post #724 (isolation #132) » Tue May 10, 2016 1:21 pm

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Did you post D2 to see if you were the NK target that I assume werewolves missed?
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Post Post #726 (isolation #133) » Tue May 10, 2016 1:56 pm

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So youre saying Alien/Mafia alternate?
and werewovles not having a kill?
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Post Post #727 (isolation #134) » Tue May 10, 2016 1:59 pm

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because N1 werewolf died
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Post Post #733 (isolation #135) » Wed May 11, 2016 7:43 pm

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Zefiend
Why did you not post any alien message D2 when there was apparently a missing kill when it was revealed two factions

That's the biggest reason, not setup speculation. Your claim hasn't been consistent
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Post Post #735 (isolation #136) » Thu May 12, 2016 1:43 am

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Goes without sayin
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Post Post #738 (isolation #137) » Thu May 12, 2016 11:08 am

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Yes,

Looked up enabler again to make sure and not sure what you're trying to say here
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Post Post #739 (isolation #138) » Thu May 12, 2016 11:09 am

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unless your role is enabled by abducting people

Respond with the first word of your post being Fate if this is true
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Post Post #743 (isolation #139) » Thu May 12, 2016 11:18 am

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shit z hes on to us

i told you not to try some stupid bus shit at lylo
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Post Post #749 (isolation #140) » Thu May 12, 2016 12:02 pm

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hmmmmmmmm

maybe Zefiend only wins when its just him and everyone hes abducted alive

Thats why he refuses to lynch KTS, he needs to lynch me and abduct SirCakez
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Post Post #750 (isolation #141) » Thu May 12, 2016 12:06 pm

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In that way he COULD win with town, but only tomorrow (since today he still hasn't abducted two people-SC and me)
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Post Post #757 (isolation #142) » Thu May 12, 2016 9:05 pm

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SirCakez is the only who would hammer

I'd hope he is able to channel the same patience as when I avoided hammering him ;D
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Post Post #783 (isolation #143) » Tue May 17, 2016 12:59 pm

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this game is only fucked now if Zefiend doesn't win with town
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Post Post #784 (isolation #144) » Tue May 17, 2016 1:00 pm

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I'm really not going to let myself live down not hammering Sir Cakez even if we do win though
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Post Post #785 (isolation #145) » Tue May 17, 2016 1:03 pm

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Zefiend I know you're super tunneled on me being scum, but if I'm right in that you win when you've stolen everyone's soul then you have no problem in lynching Sir Cakez scum

Vote: Sir Cakez


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Post Post #787 (isolation #146) » Tue May 17, 2016 1:12 pm

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I thought that went without saying really
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Post Post #788 (isolation #147) » Tue May 17, 2016 1:13 pm

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You played well Cakez, don't get me wrong. I guess I misunderstood your ambivalence at getting lynched D2

Did you just stop caring after D1?
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Post Post #791 (isolation #148) » Wed May 18, 2016 10:59 am

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This is the part where you vote me and pretend I'm confirmed scum from your point of view?

read the fucking script Cakez, nows not the time to posture and act protown because you don't vote at MyLo
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Post Post #796 (isolation #149) » Wed May 18, 2016 12:19 pm

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I hadn't really considered it no

Mod: would the last scum be able to action and kill at the same time?
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Post Post #797 (isolation #150) » Wed May 18, 2016 12:20 pm

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I mean the flavor alone lines up with him being an alien so

Unless the last mafia is alien for ??? reasons
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Post Post #799 (isolation #151) » Wed May 18, 2016 5:28 pm

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Unvote:
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Post Post #804 (isolation #152) » Fri May 20, 2016 12:09 pm

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meh I can't think of a reason why zefiend would no kill just to frame KTS, and then not even follow through but go through some weird loops.


Stop fucking with my story Cakez. Zefiend is 3rd party crazy bullshit that wins when he steals everyones soul thats alive

I mean he basically claimed as much yesterday with that "oh I don't want the game to end today" bullshit
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Post Post #842 (isolation #153) » Sat May 21, 2016 3:28 pm

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Zefiend would you have won with scum if I had just voted KTS off the bat yesterday?
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Post Post #843 (isolation #154) » Sat May 21, 2016 3:30 pm

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In post 817, zakk wrote:Werewolves purposefully choose to nightkill no one — SUCCESSFUL

you fucking clowns?
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Post Post #844 (isolation #155) » Sat May 21, 2016 3:32 pm

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I would not have shot you if I knew you were 3rd party

I just thought you were a town JK and in that case you had to die


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Post Post #845 (isolation #156) » Sat May 21, 2016 3:33 pm

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also don't understand zakk how you thought you could enforce zefiend's post restriction

I mean he all but claimed his role anyway

If he was forced to claim VT then it would've been a completely different game
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Post Post #847 (isolation #157) » Sun May 22, 2016 1:42 am

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chilled tea your comments in the dead thread reveal a very perceptive mind. You were very spot on with reads and even night action speculation

I think you're a very talented player and encourage you not to give up on the site because of quicklynch D1 that wasn't your fault. Even I was quicklynched before I could post once, (scum faked a N0 guilty on me but I get your frustration either way)
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Post Post #854 (isolation #158) » Sun May 22, 2016 11:16 am

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I don't think it was too hard for scum at all

That said I wouldn't exactly say town played all that well. If it weren't for Zefiend and his meddling bulletproof I don't think it would've been difficult to lynch Sir Cakez or KTS in lylo

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