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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:31 am

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In post 497, chamber wrote:
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Hi there.

You angry? Or desperate to counter Fire? :)

I'ma let Radja catch up.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:31 am

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In post 499, chamber wrote:
In post 498, Minsc and Boo wrote:I'm also not wanting scum to think you're a viable mislynch to push.


Why not?


We box the mislynches away, we'll lynch within my scum pool and we'll win. :D
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:34 am

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In post 500, Minsc and Boo wrote:
In post 497, chamber wrote:
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Hi there.

You angry? Or desperate to counter Fire? :)

I'ma let Radja catch up.


Do you actually think me + fire is a plausible scum team at this point?

In post 501, Minsc and Boo wrote:
In post 499, chamber wrote:
In post 498, Minsc and Boo wrote:I'm also not wanting scum to think you're a viable mislynch to push.


Why not?


We box the mislynches away, we'll lynch within my scum pool and we'll win. :D


That doesn't actually answer my question. The scum still aren't going to want to lynch themselves? If you think maru is town leaving him on the table as looking like a mislynch can only be good because you can jump on people that actually take the bait. I don't think this is actually alignment indicative but I do think it was a really empty statement.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:36 am

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In post 496, Minsc and Boo wrote:You should know I like to check how my townreads are reading players I feel weird about.
Xkfyu wasn't a random player, he is someone I have an odd feeling about.

It read like "pls produce anti-Xkfyewkf content." I thought I remembered you listing 2 ppl tho which made it more like that but maybe I'm misremembering.

It would be sketchy if a major game topic were my alignment and I hadn't posted, ya, probably (to make the Smudger analogy clearer).
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:37 am

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I am so cross with Daniel.
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:37 am

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In post 502, chamber wrote:Do you actually think me + fire is a plausible scum team at this point?
i'd like you to explain why you feel like you&fire isnt plausible after titus answers this.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:40 am

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In post 458, Fire Assassin wrote:
In post 454, Gorkington wrote:
In post 453, Minsc and Boo wrote:Gork, my vote is reaffirmed by FA's posting. Tell me thoughts on X, IEC, and FA.
xkfyu is null with faint here-and-there feels of towniness that i dont particularly trust.
iece is maybe town but im scared because hes good and i havent played with him before so not confident about that at all.
fa is still a scum-guy. nothing about anything hes doing feels town to me.

are these questions for buddying purposes or sorting purposes?
let me know so i know how to react o them.

You consider Minsc and Boo town?
Boo!!!!!!

I don't know how wrong town can be in a game, but I think you are pretty pretty wrong so far about reads.
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:40 am

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In post 505, Gorkington wrote:
In post 502, chamber wrote:Do you actually think me + fire is a plausible scum team at this point?
i'd like you to explain why you feel like you&fire isnt plausible after titus answers this.


I haven't thought of the plausibility of a me + fire scumteam in any depth. I think I defended him reasonably hard and in a way that would be weird if I were scum with him (we are thinking too much alike so he has to be town! falls back on me if he flips scum) which does make me think we should be at least a bit less likely, but that's not where I was going with the question of titus.
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:41 am

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In post 502, chamber wrote:
In post 500, Minsc and Boo wrote:
In post 497, chamber wrote:
Vote: Minsc and Boo


Hi there.

You angry? Or desperate to counter Fire? :)

I'ma let Radja catch up.


Do you actually think me + fire is a plausible scum team at this point?

In post 501, Minsc and Boo wrote:
In post 499, chamber wrote:
In post 498, Minsc and Boo wrote:I'm also not wanting scum to think you're a viable mislynch to push.


Why not?


We box the mislynches away, we'll lynch within my scum pool and we'll win. :D


That doesn't actually answer my question. The scum still aren't going to want to lynch themselves? If you think maru is town leaving him on the table as looking like a mislynch can only be good because you can jump on people that actually take the bait. I don't think this is actually alignment indicative but I do think it was a really empty statement.


Yes. I do. Why should I suddenly believe you're town when you're hard defending scum and chainsawing on their behalf.

If scum have to vote somewhere. If there are no mislynches, scum are forced to bus. Blocking off mislynches is ideal play.
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:42 am

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In post 508, Titus wrote:
In post 502, chamber wrote:
In post 500, Minsc and Boo wrote:
In post 497, chamber wrote:
Vote: Minsc and Boo


Hi there.

You angry? Or desperate to counter Fire? :)

I'ma let Radja catch up.


Do you actually think me + fire is a plausible scum team at this point?

In post 501, Minsc and Boo wrote:
In post 499, chamber wrote:
In post 498, Minsc and Boo wrote:I'm also not wanting scum to think you're a viable mislynch to push.


Why not?


We box the mislynches away, we'll lynch within my scum pool and we'll win. :D


That doesn't actually answer my question. The scum still aren't going to want to lynch themselves? If you think maru is town leaving him on the table as looking like a mislynch can only be good because you can jump on people that actually take the bait. I don't think this is actually alignment indicative but I do think it was a really empty statement.


Yes. I do. Why should I suddenly believe you're town when you're hard defending scum and chainsawing on their behalf.

If scum have to vote somewhere. If there are no mislynches, scum are forced to bus. Blocking off mislynches is ideal play.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:42 am

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That 2nd bit was directed at your other head wasn't it?
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:45 am

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In post 507, chamber wrote:
In post 505, Gorkington wrote:
In post 502, chamber wrote:Do you actually think me + fire is a plausible scum team at this point?
i'd like you to explain why you feel like you&fire isnt plausible after titus answers this.


I haven't thought of the plausibility of a me + fire scumteam in any depth. I think I defended him reasonably hard and in a way that would be weird if I were scum with him (we are thinking too much alike so he has to be town! falls back on me if he flips scum) which does make me think we should be at least a bit less likely, but that's not where I was going with the question of titus.


Following up on this post answer, titus's comment felt quite reactionary. They were the first person I stated a suspicion of, they were listed in my top 3, and there is a building wagon on them where as my preferred vote is sitting idle, I think it's completely natural that I'd move my vote to them when I did. I was wondering if she was seriously considering me as a scum partner to fire for it.
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:48 am

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In post 511, chamber wrote:
In post 507, chamber wrote:
In post 505, Gorkington wrote:
In post 502, chamber wrote:Do you actually think me + fire is a plausible scum team at this point?
i'd like you to explain why you feel like you&fire isnt plausible after titus answers this.


I haven't thought of the plausibility of a me + fire scumteam in any depth. I think I defended him reasonably hard and in a way that would be weird if I were scum with him (we are thinking too much alike so he has to be town! falls back on me if he flips scum) which does make me think we should be at least a bit less likely, but that's not where I was going with the question of titus.


Following up on this post answer, titus's comment felt quite reactionary. They were the first person I stated a suspicion of, they were listed in my top 3, and there is a building wagon on them where as my preferred vote is sitting idle, I think it's completely natural that I'd move my vote to them when I did. I was wondering if she was seriously considering me as a scum partner to fire for it.


You asked me a question. I responded. So yes, that is reactionary.

Your timing suggests you were waiting for things to become popular and just naked voted after support arrived.
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:50 am

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In post 503, Iecerint wrote:
In post 496, Minsc and Boo wrote:You should know I like to check how my townreads are reading players I feel weird about.
Xkfyu wasn't a random player, he is someone I have an odd feeling about.

It read like "pls produce anti-Xkfyewkf content." I thought I remembered you listing 2 ppl tho which made it more like that but maybe I'm misremembering.

It would be sketchy if a major game topic were my alignment and I hadn't posted, ya, probably (to make the Smudger analogy clearer).



what do you mean "listing 2 ppl?"
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:50 am

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In post 512, Titus wrote:
In post 511, chamber wrote:
In post 507, chamber wrote:
In post 505, Gorkington wrote:
In post 502, chamber wrote:Do you actually think me + fire is a plausible scum team at this point?
i'd like you to explain why you feel like you&fire isnt plausible after titus answers this.


I haven't thought of the plausibility of a me + fire scumteam in any depth. I think I defended him reasonably hard and in a way that would be weird if I were scum with him (we are thinking too much alike so he has to be town! falls back on me if he flips scum) which does make me think we should be at least a bit less likely, but that's not where I was going with the question of titus.


Following up on this post answer, titus's comment felt quite reactionary. They were the first person I stated a suspicion of, they were listed in my top 3, and there is a building wagon on them where as my preferred vote is sitting idle, I think it's completely natural that I'd move my vote to them when I did. I was wondering if she was seriously considering me as a scum partner to fire for it.


You asked me a question. I responded. So yes, that is reactionary.

Your timing suggests you were waiting for things to become popular and just naked voted after support arrived.
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:50 am

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Hmm? I didn't mean your answer felt reactionary, I meant

You aren't wrong about the fact that building pressure on you lead to me moving my vote? It's in the sake of reasonable compromise though, it's hardly the first thing I've said about your slot.
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:52 am

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In post 515, chamber wrote:Hmm? I didn't mean your answer felt reactionary, I meant

You aren't wrong about the fact that building pressure on you lead to me moving my vote? It's in the sake of reasonable compromise though, it's hardly the first thing I've said about your slot.


No. That's called testing the waters.
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:53 am

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I don't actually know what that means.
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:57 am

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In post 517, chamber wrote:I don't actually know what that means.


It's where scum float a mislynch, see who is interested, and jump on when support arrives if the wagons go wrong.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:59 am

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Oh, you were responding to that half. I mean, your position doesn't allow for any fluidity in lynches, which is terrible? I understand that in this instance you know your alignment and I can only guess, which is possibly clouding your judgement, but if you are town and take a step back I think you'd realize your stance is ridiculous in general.
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:01 am

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What's the actual benefit in doing what I did vs just voting you from the start if that's what it was?
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:04 am

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In post 520, chamber wrote:What's the actual benefit in doing what I did vs just voting you from the start if that's what it was?


You'd have gathered support and doubtcasting a lynch on scum.

I am willing to consider you as town, but that makes sense to me and that's where I'm at. Rolling with what makes sense.
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:07 am

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How do those things not happen if I vote first?
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:07 am

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If you are town and have multiple suspects what does that look like and how does it differ from what I did?
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2016 9:09 am

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In post 522, chamber wrote:How do those things not happen if I vote first?


If you would have voted first, you would have taken a stance rather than seeing if it was acceptable to take or not. There wouldn't have been the doubtcasting. It still would have a chainsawy feel to it but not as bad.

I don't understand your second question.
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