Mini 1784: Mafia Z – Game Over

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VOTE: ChilledteaVOTE:

careful that I spell it right

hooray, we're out of RVS

vote itlepip

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MOTHERFUCKER ARE YOU SERIOUSLY RUNNING A 10P MULTIBALL SETUP

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I'm guessing it's 5 to lynch?

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Vote: ChilledTea

I like your style RC

also

vote Fate

wasn't a huge fan of this vote given the flip

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Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

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I am pretty sure Cakey is not mafia for what it's worth. Cakey wouldn't push the "Titus is always scum" RVS vote tell as chilledtea's partner.

regarding Cakey I don't really agree with this reasoning, but I'm not independently scumreading him so SHRUG

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I just think that's a complete non sequitar? it's an rvs vote.

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VOTE: Dystopian Vision

Titus is always scum.

lawl. titus got posts confused between you/chilledtea

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didn't like the day 1 vote by UT tbh

it was trying to kill the momentum of the chilledtea wagon, as well as taunting pip to pressure him not to hammer

ehhh not really? itlpip's fake vote looked increidbly awkward and scummy, so I voted him

turns out I was right, so I'm not going to apologize for it. the CT wagon was an RVS powerwagon that had the good fortune of being on scum.

my vote looks SUPERFICIALLY like an attempt to start a counterwagon but the content of my post should have let you know that I thought it was exclusively RVS nonsense and I was voting for an actual read I'd gotten.

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Your wagon?

two votes isn't a wagon, but I'm not surprised given that itl flipped as scum and my vote superficially looks like me trying to start a counterwagon (ended up being on scum though, so HA)

You were starting a wagon in response to a wagon. How is that "superficially" a counterwagon?

This post also looks like distancing

the key difference is that I wasn't voting to stop an RVS wagon but rather to express an actual scumread on one player who I was actually scumreading.

distancing from...what exactly?

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um

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I like you more every time I play with you, RC

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okay buddy

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what the fuck are you doing, Fate

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other than some kind of weird buddying thing

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high likelihood

loldongs. that is such horseshit.

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so you're just openly not going to try for an alignment read, just an omgus vote

never change, fate

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you already can't get a flawless victory because you're scum

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what the fuck are you doing, Fate

yeah this is how you talk to a scumread sure

you really have to keep reading. I was doing a thing. where I call it buddying.

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page 3-4 was RVS?

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likewise, I think your vote had the good fortune of landing on a werewolf when no one expected multiball

expand on this, because I'm not really seeing what you're trying to say

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That... Isn't a response to what I said though

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bring back your hydra partner, this is just word salad

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Your quote pyramid is going nowhere because you're telling yessiree to change a low-level gut read because of an interpretation he's already considered and disagrees with. You're stating the superficially obvious town interpretation of your post and use that as an argument to challenge his gut read. It's not going to work.

Ah.

Well I guess my issue is that he seems to be considering my vote as a reaction to the chill wagon when it was not since I thought it was just an RVS flash wagon and I was moving based on an actual read I had that was based on a vote.

This is like Mafia 101, I'm not sure what's difficult about this for him.

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Ok I like Bob and cakey.

RC I wish would die but the case against UT is compelling. RC is bloating the thread with crap. On the one hand, he's throwing out crap to try ad deliberately confuse me and then gets upset when I get confused? Yeah no.

Fate's lean townie. I need to talk with Flub about what he was trying to say there.

Arms and legs inside the hydra, guys.

Seriously though, have your between heads discussions in your PT, not in the game thread. That shit is super annoying.

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Kill, thoughts on UT?

Proooooobably wasting your time. Just report him for trolling and wait for the replacement

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enjoyable fluff is now buddying

man a lot of things have changed

theres no way town UT reads that interaction as buddying

if you're going to go down the rabbit hole of "well, town-UT would do such and such" then you need to ask yourself "would scum-UT really try to mislynch FATE instead of just nightkilling him?"

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Fuck this.

I'm an unlimited shot limited alignment cop. I get "mafia", "not mafia", and "no results". I'm assuming based on that wording that I would get "not mafia" for werewolves.

Copped Fate last night, got "no results". I feel there's a pretty good chance he's a mafia godfather. So get the chucklefucking votes off of me thanks.

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my role is "Constable" for flavor and says I can see if someone is in the mafia, my last post was translating to non-flavor terms.

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Sebastian Montes

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How accurate would you say your results are?

since this isn't a bastard game I would assume I'm guaranteed to be sane....

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tentatively.

you are a smart cookie

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wait shit you're right, I was confusing that with ascetic

unvote

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psst Kill just unvoted

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psst i can read

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that really doesn't hold up to scrutiny

if I'm "of that caliber" then you would think that my fakeclaim would not have a mistake in it, no?

everyone makes mistakes dude. sorry to be the one to have to tell you that.

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from purely a setup-spec perspective:

that would be a really bad idea as that could very easily end up with a no-win scenario for both scum factions because of massclaims. RCs suggestion is far more likely than "throw in a bunch of docs and roleblockers and bps"

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the confusion actually came from all of the godfather-type roles in my games actually being ascetics

when I got "no results" I said SHIT, HE'S THE GF because I've been using ascetics that way for so long that my brain went to that definition for a GF role instead of remembering I would get a straight inno.

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kinda confused why you're mocking my usage of the word "dude" but I'll just let that go instead of arguing about it

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depends on if the setup is 7/2/1 or 6/2/2, but yeah given that my role seems to specifically be for mafia I would think so and if there is one they should obviously stay hidden

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from purely a setup-spec perspective:

that would be a really bad idea as that could very easily end up with a no-win scenario for both scum factions because of massclaims. RCs suggestion is far more likely than "throw in a bunch of docs and roleblockers and bps"

If scum has a role-cop they would be able to tailor their claim to what the setup looks like

I don't think that's an unreasonable role to assume

...what? how does a role-cop negate a bunch of cross protecting and role blocking and bulletproofing?

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I'm okay with a KTS wagon. we're far enough ahead that we can afford a PL

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This game really needs a third flip.

ftfy

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pretty sure cakez is still scum

im pretty well versed with his scum game and hes versed with mine. this clearly isnt my scumgame

Your posting is terrible though. This isn't your town game, you'd be making pushes if it was.
This game really needs a flip.

actually, this whole post seems super scummy to me for a reason I can't quite put my finger on

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OK a new flip UT

no no, the distinction is important

"we need a flip!" is exactly the argument I have made as scum when I'm trying to push a stagnated mislynch along.

maybe I'm just projecting my own scumgame onto you there, but that post really jumped out at me for that reason

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vote Sircakez

choo choo

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memes

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s c u m c o u n t e r w a g o n
It was impossible to build a KTS wagon but this comes together in an hour and a half? No way.

well the KTS wagon was based on "he's trolling" right?

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I mean. he's done a *little*

can't help but notice all you're doing is talking about how hard it is to lynch KTS even though there's an L-1 wagon on you

nevermind the fact that neither scum faction would have more than one member alive so that's a preeeeeeeeeetty meaningless observation at this point in the game

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do you want to claim or something?

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Uhh how do you go from challenging "we need a flip" to having no suspicion as to how fast that wagon just stacked on Cakez?

it's almost like you didn't even read what I was posting and were just looking for something to say

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I'm accusing you of not actually understanding the two things you're comparing

what does the wagon on Cakez have to do with him saying "we need a flip" and me seeing that as a scumtell? other than absolutely nothing of course.

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I like how KTS has just stopped posting once again when the wagon went away.

as much as I'm inclined to agree with you on that, I actually prefer it when he's not posting >_>

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I think that's just regular aggressive

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oh RC has been V/LA that explains about half the apathy

DV lurking during this time is even worse

I could vote DV at some point

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if you agree it's a top scum pick, why are you directing votes away from the wagon?

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SC is my top-est though

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that's a complete mischaracterization of my position.

I'm not voting because I want a flip, I'm voting him BECAUSE I THINK HE'S SCUM

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there's almost definitely only one more scum left on each team so that eliminates the possibility of a scum-driven speedwagon....

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and that's irrelevant to me because I have a scumread on SC so I want him to die

scum was speedwagoned on D1, I don't see how a fast wagon is necessarily going to be on town now?

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jesus tapdancing christ

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vote DV

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Have trouble believing there's a tracker, a seer, and a cop.

scum tracker makes a LOT of sense though

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sometimes you have to vote for the wagon you've got instead of insisting on the wagon you want

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Zefiend you fool

Also FATE YOU SON OF A BITCH I CAUGHT YOU

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zakks you need to make the pts public

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5:2:2:1 and we still won

we deserve a fucking cake or something goddamn

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5:2:2:1 and we still won

we deserve a fucking cake or something goddamn

Tbqh it was pretty hard for any faction to win, really.

What are your setup thoughts tho?

Don't run a game that is 5 2 2 1 ?

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Yep!

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He didnt know that...