Mini 1773 : Symphonic Metal Mafia (Game Over?!)

[Killthestory]

Confirming now.

[Killthestory]

Will give thoughts when I have time.

[Killthestory]

Post #19 and #21 is scum aligned. Discuss.

[Killthestory]

he noticed how fast it was growing, and it was more out of joke than actually starting the wagon.

Maestro is town, at least one person who voted him was scum aligned, I don't expect scum to buss this early.

[Killthestory]

it's not natural. scum bussing within 5 pages is nearly unheard of. In fact, I'd say it's more against meta to defend your mafia buddies rather than bus them early on.

P-EDIT: whatever.

[Killthestory]

yes. Anyway Maestro wagon happened to fast based on too little pretenses. Bad wagon to use as scumtells imo.

Masq, why don't you actually read my previous posts? That'd be great

[Killthestory]

I'd actually never heard about symphonic metal before signing up. I like Nightwish.

Post #19 and #21 is scum aligned. Discuss.

Nah. Neither seem alignment indicative to me.


I don't like that Jeanne and Maestro "claimed" VT, even in a for-the-lulz kind of way. That strikes me as something scum would have a slightly higher chance of doing than town.

How does neither seem alignment indicative yet claiming VT like that is? wtf.

also why the fuck would you claim vt? I thought you were joking. fml

[Killthestory]

im not voting Maestro but that's kind of intent to vote because he actually claimed vt? wtf?

[Killthestory]

if you're going to vote me at least have the decency to capitalize the right letters.

[Killthestory]

illiterate scum.

no it's good i love you b fo real.

anyway what the fuck why would people claim vt so early im honestly confused

[Killthestory]

i mean, i dont see scum doing something so suicidal unless, like i said, they're fucking suicidal?

like I was townreading Maestro because of all the inconsistent votes/how fast the wagon formed on little basis, but what the fuck was that VT claim? thats got me doubting myself just a little

[Killthestory]

i mean, i dont see scum doing something so suicidal unless, like i said, they're fucking suicidal?

like I was townreading Maestro because of all the inconsistent votes/how fast the wagon formed on little basis, but what the fuck was that VT claim? thats got me doubting myself just a little

basically it hinders more than helps, to elaborate, just because it gives scum more chance to hit a PR than a VT. regardless of his reasoning, it's probably not going to work as he intended, and if it was calculated it was stoopid bro

[Killthestory]

im honestly just confused. from others standpoints i probably look flipfloppy right now but like... it's just a bad play overall. i dont see any alignment making that play, and thats why its hard to believe either way. for reasons aforementioned disregarding his claim, id be townreading him right now

[Killthestory]

Bad play =/= scummy play. Always remember that.

If the rest of his play is towny, and this is null, then the vote is still the part that confuses me.
I don't get why it is placed on a nulltown.

ye i know but fucking it's so utterly dumb as a play. whatever.

anyway, are you talking about him voting masquerade?

P-EDIT: Bro dont go acting high and mighty now, it was a bad play no matter how you look at it lmfao

[Killthestory]

Killthestory: Ok then I'm going to assume you are scumreading Snarky and Wisdom. You believe they're both scum on Maestro's wagon?
You gave me the impression you are townreading Maestro because there is scum on his wagon. With your 74 you are explaining it differently, saying Maestro is town because his wagon happened too fast. How do you know there isn't all town on his wagon?

Wagon happened way too fast before he even started posting. Inconsistent in the sense that there was little to no reasoning come with votes.

@Kuroi, If you can accept that the joke vote was made in a more laxing manner, then that means it's probably just some town joking. However, a serious vote in RVS where there isn't anything to go off of is way more scummier.

Sorry for being wishy washy earlier, was very confused regarding behaviours.

[Killthestory]

dierfire is scum.

without a doubt. this is not based on 135 either.

[Killthestory]

oh shit he just ninja'd me with a vote.

that doesnt matter much

[Killthestory]

@ Kuroi

Could you explain your vote on Killthestory? I'm not getting it.

Killthestory has found the actions found by some people scummy while others not scummy. When I asked him why, he said that some people aren't scummy if they do something scummy while "joking."

Found it, thanks!
I thought that I had something off about your earlier interaction, though. Let me look.

@ Kuroi

Could you explain your vote on Killthestory? I'm not getting it.

XD WHO CAN I PUSH A MISLYNCH ON IN THIS TVT SCENARIO XDDDDDDDDD

Killthestory has found the actions found by some people scummy while others not scummy. When I asked him why, he said that some people aren't scummy if they do something scummy while "joking."

Found it, thanks!
I thought that I had something off about your earlier interaction, though. Let me look.

"ha ha ha XDDDDDDD. im going to back off of you because i realized that you have a solid position as a town member XD. ill go doubtcast someone else now if you dont mind"
basically what that post says to me

I may have misunderstood your 124, but also that was gliding into a discussion of the VT claims and wasn't strictly relevant to your vote.

Hum! Now I sort of want to vote for Killthestory as well.

"XD IM GOING TO SAY I WANT TO VOTE HIM BUT THEN I WONT. ITS BRILLIANT XDDDDDDD"
once again, no definitive opinions.

@Dierfire

What's behind your Wisdom vote? When I look at his posts, I see someone whose voting exhibits commendable discernment.

Yes, I think so.

UNVOTE: Wisdom
VOTE: Killthestory

"XD, I JUST REALIZED MY OTHER POST WAS SCUMMY, TIME TO SAVE FACE XDDDDDDDDDDDD."

it took you a whole post to vote me after you said you were going to vote me. what is wrong with you child

[Killthestory]

"XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD WHAT ARE YOU SCUMREADING ME FOR XDDDDDDDDDDDDD"

[Killthestory]

no. thats not correct at all.

"XD MY TIGHT AGGRESSIVE PLAY IS GONNA WIN THIS SCUM VICTORY BOIS." this isnt tight aggressive. this is passive scum at it's finest bois

[Killthestory]

dierfire is scum.

without a doubt. this is not based on 135 either.

You kind of need to back up your claims and no - brushing off other's posts are not supporting your claims nor are they your defense.

r u reading?

[Killthestory]

Post #19 and #21 is scum aligned. Discuss.

Not enough in those posts for anyone including yourself to know that unless...

lol ok.

it's not natural. scum bussing within 5 pages is nearly unheard of. In fact, I'd say it's more against meta to defend your mafia buddies rather than bus them early on.

P-EDIT: whatever.

Nearly unheard of? Sorry I've heard of it and seen it and probably have done it myself before.

lol ok.

it's a bad play, and if you've done it it probably sucked

[Killthestory]

it's a bad play, and if you've done it it probably sucked

I've seen scum double bus their partner day 1 & 2 and survive to win. Seen it more than once so thanks for your opinion but you are either just inexperienced or naive.

probably just a better player and theorycrafter since that doesnt work in normal games. bussing is a silly tactic, and it's more useful to buddy your mafia buddy and go against meta.

[Killthestory]

At the end of page 4, got to run but the 2 people I hate the most right now are kill and farmer. Posts just rub me the wrong way.

Later.

hate is a strong word.

its exactly the word id use to describe you

[Killthestory]

anyway regardless of the amount of VI's, Jake is prob town along with Ki whatever the fuk. i forgot his name already and dont want to look.

mae or whatever is also town as well so mark that down hawmie gs

[Killthestory]

it's a bad play, and if you've done it it probably sucked

I've seen scum double bus their partner day 1 & 2 and survive to win. Seen it more than once so thanks for your opinion but you are either just inexperienced or naive.

probably just a better player and theorycrafter since that doesnt work in normal games. bussing is a silly tactic, and it's more useful to buddy your mafia buddy and go against meta.

You are 100% not a better player than Jake (and I would be willing to bet you're not necessarily better than me) unless you are an alt, and if you are you should out your main right now because playing under a secret alt while simultaneously being this pompous about how good you are as a player would just be a whole new layer of RL-distrust I couldn't get past to play this game.

UNVOTE:

I've been skimming all day from work and I may respond to things that were said but I just wanted to get it out there: story's attitude is one of the worst I've ever seen on this site, subtly so. It's not about being a 2012 or a 2015 (I joke about those things more often than most - gerroffmahlawn) it's about having a mutual respect for the players on this site. If you can't deal with that, I won't play with you.

no you're not that good of a player tbh. Anyway I've never played with Jake, and he's prob a better player but heat of the moment my man. Plus, Jake is making silly accusations against me which is p bad.

bro my attitudes not bad at all lmfao. is it my lack of caring that strikes you off? Do you expect me to throw a hissy fit every time I'm voted or not say anything to people who blatantly insult me? Sorry to burst your bubble, but I'm the type of person that's upfront with people. As you said, if you have a problem, don't play with me.

[Killthestory]

also obligatory oh no I've been caught red handed time to meme a bunch XD

anyway, my main is killthestory. I believe you're playing a game with them right now. In fact I think it's this game xDddd LOL

[Killthestory]

Holy shit this site reads into way too much. Like honestly, that's a major problem.

Anyway, I'll probably take back what I said about bussing, it's possible but it's stupid as fuck. Defending your mafia bud is a better play overall is better than actually bussing them unless you suck ass.

Anyway, Wisdom and Jake are town. Maestro is prob VI Town since he's more focused on how hella butthurt I made him when he insulted me first lmfao.

nnn strikes me wrong. Dierfire as well. I'll probably do more shit in a sec, p busy guy

[Killthestory]

lol bro.

[Killthestory]

In case someone was wondering about what I thought of my interaction with Killthestory...

Overall, my impression is that he is engaged in some form of "reaction test" that is probably not directed at me. I gathered the following facts.

LOL. Ok bro,listen, if you think someone is pulling something, you never fucking out it. Period

1. He is claiming suspicion of me but not voting for me.

I have more scumreads than just you bud.

2. His arguments seem less interested in persuading others to vote for me than in expressing tone--that is, the tone is the message.

Why would I want people to vote for you? I mean, like I said, I have more scumreads, but to be sure that someone's scum to make it so others vote for them? Too early for that.

3. He declined an opportunity to prolong his interaction with me (presumably because he wasn't overly concerned with my reaction).

i went to sleep???

The best explanation that I have for his behavior from a Town perspective is that he is sorting for associative tells, although the exact method is unclear to me. As (almost) everyone had a chance to post since then, I believe that he will have obtained sufficient material to share with us.
The best explanation that I have for his behavior from a Mafia perspective is that he is trying to be perceived as an aggressive/impatient/confident Town player. That is, I do not feel that he is a Mafia player trying to get me (specifically) lynched.

i have sufficient material I guess. You're scum.

Anyway, I won't take the easy way out and say what I say is COMPLETELY CALCULATDD HUR DUR. I do shit when I feel it needs to get done, and I'll say shit for short term shit. Mafia is about versatility, not extreme planning lol.

[Killthestory]

Bussing is a great strategy in many different situations.
You're one of those rare VIs who thinks he's the best shit in the whole room, and I can tell.

I thought you were describing me for a second but once you said VI I knew you weren't

can you actually do shit?

like I get your idealized and probs p gud but you have yet to show me since basically all you've done is say "oh bro these guys strike me as off" and then fluctuate to a different dude lmfao. Then you use the excuse of tiredness which I understand, but other than that you've been useless.

[Killthestory]

wow you must be p mad with all that passive aggressiveness.

did i tell you how much i dislike passive aggressiveness.

[Killthestory]

wow bro youre so cool. like you got me there guy!

whats with this mad beef lmfao, you got something on your mind you wanna share to the class?

[Killthestory]

we got into an argument about how to play lad. if you take everything so personal you shouldn't be playing on the internet. also, remember the quote "two wrongs don't make a right" lad. if i was such a bad person, you're equal on my level

[Killthestory]

I haven't taken anything personal

clearly you have if you're so angry at what i've been saying lmfao

[Killthestory]

Alright, you seem like a decent lad, so I'd hope not to cross that boundary.

I come off as naturally aggressive because that's what best works for me. Passive just has never been a good playstyle for me. For my other form, Distortion, it works rather well, but my playstyle is a mirror of my personality except for the fact I'm more aggressive because there's no barriers on the internet, which is natural for most.

[Killthestory]

Then you can understand the reasoning behind at least a few of my posts if you can relate to my line of thinking. Or at least the underlying meaning behind it

[Killthestory]

Then you can understand the reasoning behind at least a few of my posts if you can relate to my line of thinking. Or at least the underlying meaning behind it

[Killthestory]

Jake vs KTS just got weirdly warm and fuzzy...

Unsure whether alignment related.

I'd rather not fuck up relations just to win a game.

[Killthestory]

greetings travelers, I am here to make a ketchup post

[Killthestory]

well i had a giant post.

and then i accidently cut my shit out. soo...

Shiro, wisdom, Jake, maestro, farmer, and arsomething something are town.

nnn, dierfire, and someone who i cant remember is scum.

[Killthestory]

and someone who i cant remember

Masq?

probably, but i also got a couple good vibes from his posts so idrk, but ye he irked me as i read over the game

[Killthestory]

@jake
why is Wisdom scum or bad for refusing to vote "obvious scum" when there are like 11 other other people also not voting for "obvious scum"?

He's not scum for not voting kill,

he's scum because he's not playing like a townie. He's avoiding answering questions from at least 2 people,

he provides little to no actual substance, when asked to explain himself he does in as few words as possible, if he actually does it at all,

he's not doing anything to progress the game and he's not even attempting to convince others to follow him.

W E W LAD
E
W

I honestly have no idea what the fuck you're going on about. YOU TOLD HIM TO VOTE ME AND GOT BUTTHURT WHEN HE DIDN'T LAD LOL. There's lie 1.

Wisdom has been providing much more substance than you, and his scumhunting is very good. I actually appreciate his style right now.

LOL YOU'RE SCUMREADING HIM FOR BEING CONCISE. YOU REALIZE THAT WALLS SHOULD BE READ JUST THE SAME AS SMALL POSTS.

Wisdom is right. My gut said Jake was town at first, but this is too much. W e w Lad, he's either a bad player or scum.

nnn moved up to null for me.

VOTE: Jake

[Killthestory]

oh I forgot the other parts of my post

Sure I am. My play is obv town and even my role pm says I am. You are either having a bad game or are scum yourself. Looking at your contributions thus far I'm leaning towards scum. You have not done anything helpful at all and you refuse to vote obv scum.

Actually Jake, Wisdom has done more scumhunting than you. A lot more in fact, so... Where the fuck does that lead you?

I think today's lunch should be killthestory. I don't see any genuine scum hunting from him, his only serious attack has been on the person who voted him first and he hasn't really provided any good reason why he's scum reading dier. It looks like just an omgus reaction and his attempt to vote dier just looked like mud slinging. He also said I made an accusation about him which is also false. He's not doing anything to progress the game and instead he's just trying to alienate as many people as he can.

LOL PLEASE KID. Do I require big posts for freelo? Why can't I be concise when I state my scumreads? I literally just stated my reads, and I'm done for scumhunting any one of them my man, but no one's active. My vote on Dier was completely valid lad. Also, if you take our exchange as me alienating you lmfao, W e w lad. This is some hardcore doubtcasting.

Side note

Spoiler:

I don't care what he says but a new person to the site just doesn't call different people they supposedly never played with, bad players or imply they are bad players or even catch attitude with people in a way that looks like it has some bias to it. I get the need to want to try something new or hide to get people to treat you differently but at least be honest about it.

im not an alt, fuck off

If you turn out to be town, will you quit when I flip town? cause nothing about that post reads scummy

P.edit

A lot of does. You even said yourself that some actions can be scummy in one's eyes or not in another. Depends on perspectivity, which you clearly don't believe in or you wouldn't be saying such stupid things lad.

[Killthestory]

Well, the Maestro wagon happened for bad reason since I don't see scum attracting so much attention to themselves that early. Literally his first post, and then it spiralled from there since he really didn't help his case at all. Instead, he sort of backtracked and only defended himself and didn't do much else. However, I still get that VI Town gut read from those posts because he's playing not how scum would ever want to play.

Wisdom's read on Jake is justified.

Masq was jumped on by a lot of people, not just wisdom.

[Killthestory]

W E W lads
E
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This was a bad game. Bad players. Didn't enjoy it. I'll still try hard, but these players suck. Too many tunnel vision or look to into things, don't identify tone or underlying meaning, bad take on strategy and scumreading. Like I said, bad in general. Noted.

Anyway catchup post

[Killthestory]

figure it out

honestly have no idea what the fuck you're going on about. YOU TOLD HIM TO VOTE ME AND GOT BUTTHURT WHEN HE DIDN'T LAD LOL. There's lie 1.

I didn't get butt hurt when he didn't vote you. So that's another lie from you actually.

lol you specifically said he didn't vote obv scum. thats p damn butthurt my man

Actually Jake, Wisdom has done more scumhunting than you. A lot more in fact, so... Where the fuck does that lead you?

He really hasn't. Just saying so and so is scum without providing reading isn't scum hunting, at least not my definition of it and that's basically what he's done all game. He has still refused to explain why any of his scum reads are what they are with reasons that actually are scummy.

P.edit - I'm not scum reading him for shot posts. Why are you misrepping me? I explained all of the reasons why I'm scum reading him and "he makes short posts" isn't one of them.

What I said is when asked to explain himself he does so in very few words,

if he actually does it at all

The bolded is the more egregious behavior. I've counted at least 4 times where he has refused to explain himself/answer questions. Scum tend to talk very little also so yes him being brief and providing no actual scummy reasoning for his reads is a very good reason to be scum reading him

you didnt explain reasons first of all, you literally said that he was just not acting townie.

anyway he has done more scumreading

votes dont need explanation

votes dont need explanation

Okay, notes from this page.

Jake has valid claims against Wisdom and that should be pursued.

KTS looks really bad for the outburst on Jake. Looks really opportunistic.

Kush is playing both sides of the argument until he sees which way it will go.

@Jake, which of these would you like a wagon on?
I'd prefer Wisdom or KTS myself.
The sudden jump to defend Wisdom by KTS is really weird, and I dislike it far more than I dislike Kush playing it both ways.

Jake is town.

Shiro needs to say more. We miss Shiro!

jake isnt town. if he is, straight straight vi. seems too good to be that dumb tho, thats why he isnt town.

wisdoms been a massive townread for me this entire game lmfao. of course id jump on jake just because i wanted to see where it went since jake seemed hella scummy from his tone

I'm voting kts and trying to get others to vote him also, so I guess I'd rather a kts wagon. I do find it interesting that some people are getting worked up over my wisdom scum read.

this is extremely scummy

I enjoy Wisdom's sparse style and I may try to emulate it in my next town game.

I wouldn't cause it's not very effective assuming he's town here.

its really damn effective, he just found scum XD DO YOU LIKE MY ORIGINAL JOKE MY MAN XDDDDD

Kush is playing both sides of the argument until he sees which way it will go.

So if I understand this, you think I'm going to pretend to suspect both people, until there's a wagon on one, then conveniently join that?
That sounds pretty scummy. Why did you think that other thing looked scummier than this?

Because this has potential to also come from inquisitive, undecided townies. That's why I prodded the thought process a bit.
You came out alright.

KTS was really opportunistic against Jake there, and the tone and composition of his posts are scummy. So my vote is deserved there, not on you.

the fuck is my tone and composition scummy mfw?

PEdit: Well, sorry Wisdom, but this post is going to have more KTS opportunism.

Wow, we're already at 16 pages. And yet, I don't feel like I have 16 pages worth of reads. I'll have to go back through this game this weekend.

But I can say now that Kill's vote on Jake looks bad and omgussy.

What town motivations could there be for it? He could think Jake is scum, but as he said, he had townread Jake before then (and seemed to be rather strongly townreading him), and I don't buy that Jake's post was actually scummy enough to warrant such a shift. He could be testing for a reaction, but Jake has provided enough content so far that I don't think he'd be an appropriate choice for this.

What scum motivations could there be for it? The top two wagons at the time were his an Maestro's, and Maestro's wagon didn't seem to be going anywhere. Of the other wagons, the only one that would seem to have had any momentum was Jake's, being pushed aggressively by Wisdom. So I could see him anticipating this wagon's rise and hopping on before it looks opportunistic to do so.

So despite the risk of incurring his burns:

VOTE: Killthestory

Farmer, is your picture a pig...being castrated!?!?

That'd be lovely, but no. It's actually a dude trying to shear a pig from a detail in this.

i was townreading him earlier, read developed because i didnt like the tone of his recent posts or the meaning behind them, and i think the exchange between us wasnt so significant to really put him as a strong townread. he was more void town than anything.

anyway youre all blindly taking jakes posts and thinking its content when its not. thats really silly

What scum motivations could there be for it? The top two wagons at the time were his an Maestro's, and Maestro's wagon didn't seem to be going anywhere. Of the other wagons, the only one that would seem to have had any momentum was Jake's, being pushed aggressively by Wisdom. So I could see him anticipating this wagon's rise and hopping on before it looks opportunistic to do so.

This is quite the stretch. Scum would never think the Jake wagon is going anywhere the way I am pushing it.

I agree that the Jake wagon didn't have much momentum at the time, but of all existing wagons except KTS's, I'd have given it best shot. Those wagons were:

Maestro - Snowman, Jeanne, and I weren't pushing this wagon with much fervor of late, and Kuroi seems to have gotten on it through having misread you.
Masquerade - This wagon had been larger earlier in the game, and by this time seemed to be losing momentum.
farmer and Kuroi - Neither wagon was being pushed by their sole occupants beyond the posts in which the votes were cast.

So the Jake wagon wouldn't have been ideal for scum KTS, but it was the best available.

and I don't buy that Jake's post was actually scummy enough to warrant such a shift.

So basically, because you can't see Jake is scum, whoever does see it is scum.

I dun think that's what he is saying.

I think it is more of "That post wasn't scummy enough to warrant a 180."

Correct.

i could have pushed dierfire who was one of my biggest scumreads, but instead i probably chose the most experienced player to attack. now is that really something scsum would do seeing as if Jake was town, hed be a p hard mislynch from what im guessing

Kts voted me cause either A. I'm wrong about wisdom and kts needs wisdom on his side or B. They are both scum and like kts said, it's better for scum to defend each other. Kts had no reason to vote me and the one thing he said about me was an outright lie.

no it wasnt lmfao

[Killthestory]

oh also farmer is funny as fuck
wisdom and jake are p chill
wisdom's p good 2

and thats about all the people here that i have to comment on

[Killthestory]

Killthestory, you are a beautiful person. Remember that next time you feel the need to belittle someone else.

when did i belittle another dude bro? is it because im brutally honest so that all you other rappers unsign or what my man

[Killthestory]

This was a bad game. Bad players. Didn't enjoy it.

Aww I'm sorry you aren't enjoying the game, but don't be so hard on yourself. It takes time to become a good player. Keep at it and I'm sure you'll get better. Keep your head up

no im pretty good, not like the best or anything, clearly, but im definitely above average

lol you specifically said he didn't vote obv scum. thats p damn butthurt my man

How is it butt hurt? I called him scum before that happened. I didn't throw a hissy fit or anything because he didn't vote him. I didn't react poorly or vote him out of spite. So no butt hurt but thanks for playing. No consolation prizes for you in this game. Actually if you play your cards right you could get a noose so stick around and let's see what happens.

lol ok

you didnt explain reasons first of all, you literally said that he was just not acting townie.

Sure I did. Did you not see this post?

yeah, thats not well explained which is basically what youre accusing wisdom for lmfao

[Killthestory]

LOL

[Killthestory]

man that really made my day.

anyway, nnn is def town lads

[Killthestory]

It's always good to look town, so you're better able to communicate your ideas to the town. If you're a good player, however, then it isn't necessary.

[Killthestory]

It's always good to look town, so you're better able to communicate your ideas to the town. If you're a good player, however, then it isn't necessary.

Town shouldn't be worried about looking town. That's what scum has to be worried about. Town has enough to worry bout trying to find scum and lynching them without lynching too many town in the process.

lol pls. Town can be very self conscious about what they're doing almost as much as scum. It's not good, but it's true. That's why I said the good players don't need to express themselves as town.

[Killthestory]

lol I keep discussing strategy and keep forgetting the most important part of mafia. play what fits your personality and what you like. Strategies mean nothing if you can't accomplish even this.

[Killthestory]

ok so we're both literally saying the same things

god dammit

[Killthestory]

i have no fucking idea what you're going on about right now

[Killthestory]

VT

[Killthestory]

Whoa watch the disrespect lad, ill have to report you to the GM if you keep up with that

probably because if you hammer town it secures your lynch tommorow

[Killthestory]

LOL

bro im not a troll alt

this was just a bad game with a butthurt player

[Killthestory]

man i was excited to start postgame analysis to help improve my play and others

and then i realized no one here seeks to improve their play. just a bunch of shitty arguing. whatever, ill avoid this i guess. grow the fuck up

[Killthestory]

i do have to say that just because you had a bias against my playstyle doesn't mean you had to vote me. i was pretty fucking town, and my playstyle fit in line with other games. I also did call out dierfire, but everyone ignored that due to their personal fucking vendettas.

youre all literally children that need to go to daycare and have the teacher resolve your issues. to be honest, this postgame argument pisses me off more than the actual game did.

Tl;dr, shut the fuck up

[Killthestory]

Not everyone Your points on him was a large part of why I shot him.

thanks babe

[Killthestory]

LOL DUDE

lets review the facts here
-you can use your silly buzzwords but i caught scum and you didnt
-i was town but apparently you cant scumread. thats not my fault. i was clearly town as well, and my play does not differentiate at all. its the content that matters. and then theres also the fact that you had all wrong scumreads but were not going to get into that

[Killthestory]

alrite i take that back bois.

i could have played better. i caught scum p easy regardless of your edgy buzzwords (which i only know because of how overused they are) but i couldnt convey why he was scum appropriately. if i had come out better and then progressed a case on dier i could have probably popped him but otherwise that was p much my fault for not pushin dier so hard dawgs.

however, i dont like being called out as my reactions not being townie. look behind your own perspective and youll see that. i think i played better than at least half the game, if not 80 percent. the fact that i get shit early on pisses me off.

the arguments post game also piss me off since everybody refuses to look past their perspective, dont analyse themself, and they analyse everyone else

[Killthestory]

thats only natural from the way i play lol. No worries dude, im naturally aggressive and combative, but i cant really change it. i dont know how to play any other way without eventually cracking

[Killthestory]

read the next post after that and then make your pretentious post please

[Killthestory]

@Wisdom, now i'm not gonna say that objectively makes you a better player already, but taking these mistakes and learning from them is what makes the great even better. i like your playstyle, and i like your character. so thanks for making that post pham

@Jake, read the next post after that and then make your pretentious post please.

also, if you simply think i omgused him or whatever the fuck you want to call it, then im not sure how if theres any available help for you

[Killthestory]

i disagree.

attitude and arrogance are something thats also in my play. that doesnt mean my scumreads are any less right in some games, any less wrong in others, and im not protown or not protown enough. attitude and arrogance have absolutely nothing to do with the game, so there not problems.

stubborness is a major problem in mafia community, but i didnt see it from wisdom. he is able to admit his reads were wrong and progress them. so im not sure where youre getting that from

[Killthestory]

alright now youre just making a fool of yourself. clearly exhibiting all the shit i just said not to. whatever

im done arguing. arguing with someone who only sees their own perspective gains no ground, but causes much frustration

[Killthestory]

no more arguing please