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[BROseidon]

Also more 2 drops.

2 drops are EVERYTHING in arena.

[IH]

Think whispers will bring back Value>tempo, or will tempo continue to be king afterwards?

[Sudo_Nym]

I love Control Priest, but the games take so long to play.

[Glork]

I got 5 wins, so at least I don't feel completely terrible.

[PJ.]

Battle.net haviong issues with AVG apparently, so I am retired from hearthstone.

[Venmar]

Haven't played in a long time, considering coming back due to the new formats and expansions. Is it worth it?

[Sudo_Nym]

I think it's fun, but it's definitely a very tempo oriented meta right now. You're either playing against really fast aggro decks, or you're playing against combo/control decks with efficient removal.

[3dicerolling]

That moment when you get millhouse manastorm in this tavern brawl -_-

[DeathNote]

Heathstone never fails to tick me off....

why are you giving a paladin 4 keepers? First game of arena and I play against something that is stronger then ANYTHING constructed could ever make.

[BROseidon]

Turn 5 win in arena.

Real.

[Sudo_Nym]

There's possibly nothing more fun than playing Control Priest against Face Shaman and watching him spam emotes because he can't outpace your healing.

[Thestatusquo]

RIP druid.

http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/blog/20097355/

[BROseidon]

Tbh I like those changes, although I think that the nerf to keeper is a bit harsh (2/3 would probably be fine)

[Thestatusquo]

the blade flurry change makes the card unplayable.

[The Bulge]

Ancient of Lore nerf is ok but a little unnecessary I think given how much Druid is getting nerfed.
Force of Nature is still playable and still fits with the Druid theme. Making the Savage Roar combo a 2-turn thing is imo a very smart way of fixing it.
I've always thought 4 health was too much for Keeper, although I agree with BRO that 3 would have been ok.
Nothing much to say about owl or bgh but I like it.
Fuck the Blade Flurry nerf tho what the fuck. Either take away the face damage or up the cost by 1(?), it's so god awful now. I would love to see a combo effect added in the future that does damage to face as well because then it would still be good with prep.
Knife Juggler nerf is exactly how I would have done it. The only way I could see them changing the effect is summon->play which would be shitty so I'm glad they went for the stat nerf instead.

[Sudo_Nym]

I like most of the nerfs, frankly, but I don't know that Blade Flurry or Master of Disguise really needed to be nerfed. Keeper was overnerfed, I think, and I'm curious why I shouldn't just play Azure Drake over Ancient of Lore now.

[The Bulge]

Master of Disguise has been limiting design since its release because perma-stealth

[pickemgenius]

blade flurry nerf is actually dumb as fuck.

literally no reason to play lores of azure drake.

knife juggler nerf is good.

bgh nerf is good

meh to everything else.

[Kcdaspot]

GUYS LETS GET ANGRY ABOUT CARD GAMES YEAH

[BROseidon]

the blade flurry change makes the card unplayable.

Is 2 mana and not going face that harsh of a nerf?

[BROseidon]

I like most of the nerfs, frankly, but I don't know that Blade Flurry or Master of Disguise really needed to be nerfed. Keeper was overnerfed, I think, and I'm curious why I shouldn't just play Azure Drake over Ancient of Lore now.

Re the last question: versatility, especially since Druid doesn't benefit that much from spell damage

[BROseidon]

Other than swipe and wrath

[Sudo_Nym]

Right, but I think I can count on one hand the number of times I've used AoL to heal. Almost every time I play it, I'm playing it to draw cards, and in most of my decks, it's my only source of card draw, given that Druid is really lacking in quality card draw. Azure Drake is cheaper and draws as many cards, and it's way more likely that spell damage is going to be useful than I'm going to want the 5 heal. Most of the other Druid nerfs I'm fine with- Combo needed a nerf, and Keeper probably was over-nerfed, but they clearly want to reduce the power of versatility and silence effects, so we'll see how it plays out.

I disagree with the Blade Flurry nerf, because it feels like too much. Either make it cost more, or take away hitting face, but not both. It feels like a change to try and discourage agro rogue and push control rogue, but it basically nerfs Rogue's only good AoE without giving anything to replace it in the new set. Master of Disguise nerf still seems weird, since the argument is that it limits design space, but what's the feared combo that they had to clear Master of Disguise to print? Scaled Abomination?

I'm pretty happy to see Knife Juggler and Leper Gnome get nerfed, since aggro has been too strong for a bit now; control has basically managed to survive by taking advantage of tools like Sludge Belcher that are rotating out, and this should help keep the playing field level.

[PJ.]

Wait, whewre is the azure drake change?

[Sudo_Nym]

Azure Drake isn't getting changed. It's just the comparison card for the effect. Azure Drake is a 4/4 draw 1 spellpower 1 for 5, while Ancient is a 5/5 draw 1 for 7. You're basically paying 2 mana for +1/+1 stats and the option to trade draw 1 for heal 5 and losing spellpower. Not a great tradeoff, especially since Drake is a neutral and Ancient's a class card.