Mini 1781: Plotinus Mafia: Game Over

[Aristophanes]

Iec Iso, abridged.

Spoiler: Some posts about Gork

I wonder which of Radja and Titus is responsible for the BG reference. ^^

Both my hydras share interests

P.s. I am drunk...

Someone show me a good case

I think Gorkinger is maybe scum among the active players.

It's a mystery among the others.

I am worried about both of these players right now, and Maruchan is still having me cautious but I don't think my read on them is as strong on them as before.

Dear lord. Lord-Gorkington is leading the wagon on them, and I *still* want to join it.

I really dislike his approach to Gorki here. He seems to be passively discrediting him, but he hasn't laid down a case at all and seems to just want this slot to be untrusted. This was the first thing that set me off about Iec.

im a prat.
it doesnt mean that my reads are off the mark though.
q.q

Actually I like your reads a lot, I just think you might be scum because you spent some time casting dispersions on ppl who're probably town (e.g., Ircher shortly after replacing Davsto). It read like you were trying to reduce an [accurate] group town read secondary to the replacement, but I think my attitude toward him was like "whatever we don't have to mess with this puzzle as much now."

I mean tbh I don't want to lynch you at all tho because at least you're postin and it's not bullshit.

This is also just bad.
"Hey, you're scum because of your pushes even though I agree with your reads. I really don't feel like trying to push you though, because you're active, so I'm gonna back down here."

So, Iec, who are the scum?

FireAssassin or Gorkilord, likely not both.

I think that's the only scum among the active players. I went back and forth on NotMafia as I read, pretty sure I ended up on town because of a particular post that I can't recall IIRC. That's the only other active player I significantly entertained whom I didn't mention I think.

Again with the Gork and FA pushes he hasn't followed through on. Why can you not commit, Iec?? If you have these two as scum, then make a vote! If you aren't even going to push a case on them, then why are you trying to get others to??

Why the fuck do people keep mentioning Smudger?

I kept being like "I need to go back and see why everyone is obsessed with them because I didn't even notice his posts."

HE HAS TWO POSTS. TWO SENTENCES.

Weird, over the top overdefensiveness towards Smudger. Noted.

And ya, FA is pretty vapid but is kinda dishonest about it.
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I don't want to end the day yet tho and I'm concerned that my vote + rhetoric will do that.

Unvote; Vote: ActionDan

Therefore, I will vote for ActionDaniel.

This post is also shit. We ended the day early anyway, and he voted for absolutely no reason when he actually had a reason to believe FA was scum. Like, WTF is this!?

Where is Smudger? He's disappeared.

VOTE: Icerint

He never DISAPPEARED.

He was just NEVER IN THE GAME.

Despite being the TALK OF THE TOWN.

But I have no idea what to make of it.

I almost think this is scum showing annoyance at an inactive buddy.

I'm halfway through and glazing over :S
Gonna power through!

Hey IEC, why no comments for me?

Uh. Does this mean for Titus? Maybe cuz Radja is signing his?

You guys are kinda a non-entity for me so far other than that I noticed some posts that Radja signed. Probably leaning scum for your slot tbh but Radja is my secret MS crush, so I'm trying my best to overlook it.

This is literally a post for the sake of posting.
The read ends up at null, but it sure looks like he's being productive!

I support order over chaos this month, so I am opposed to quicklynches.

Yet is on wagon at L-1 and not unvoting.

I skipped mentioning a few posts because it's a lot. Scum slot though.

VOTE: Iec

[androgybee]

Isn't this like....exactly like rangers?

idfk
I can justify the reads yo.

[Fire Assassin]

Ircher is in a grey zone nothing stands out in his ISO.
Fire Assassin is probably town.
Roshar is also probably town as well.
NM I can't read.
Aristo is null, nothing stands out but not exactly in a bad way.
Maru is pretty sketchy he hasn't done a lot this game.
Ice, same logic as Titus for scum

{Gorkington, RadiantCowbells, Roshar}
{Aristophanes, Fire Assassin}
{Not_Mafia}
{Maruchan, Ircher}
{Iecerint, Titus}

~Bee

This is roughly where I am sitting right now.

Notice some things that don't add up?
Like just look at what you say about me. You say "Fire is probably town"
Then put me in second category.
You say Aristo is null, and put him in second category.

This honestly looks like a rip off completely from Rangers.

[Fire Assassin]

{RadiantCowbells, androgybee, Not_Mafia, Gorkington}
{Ircher, Fire Assassin}
{Aristophanes, Roshar}
{Maruchan}
{Xkfyu, Minsc and Boo, Iecerint}

Last reads list by Ranger.
Implicating Minsc and Iecerint.
Not saying her reads list is 100% right, but at least its mentioned once for her inevitable "I was right" post game.

There are noticable differences, but for most part it was the same.

[Titus]

I just literally have

like 0 motivation to play mafia atm.

sorry.

I actually am falling out of love w it myself. The game is less a search for truth and more political jockeyin with punishing for incorrect opinions.

Walk me through why you made this post?

Because it's true. Town as a whole cease to care about reason or logic or thought patterns. Hunting by that method, which is the ONLY decent way besides setup and it's scumread. I shouldn't have to care what others think but when you get wagoned for being honest and avoid wagons for kissing ass (minus micros) well, it kinda ceases to be which players are more popular because we don't get real w each other.

You frustrate me but your tunnel on me every game at least has reasons behind it that can be scumhunted.

[androgybee]

{RadiantCowbells, androgybee, Not_Mafia, Gorkington}
{Ircher, Fire Assassin}
{Aristophanes, Roshar}
{Maruchan}
{Xkfyu, Minsc and Boo, Iecerint}

Last reads list by Ranger.
Implicating Minsc and Iecerint.
Not saying her reads list is 100% right, but at least its mentioned once for her inevitable "I was right" post game.

There are noticable differences, but for most part it was the same.

I mean of course they would be similar when people are obv towning and I am basing a lot of my scum reads on the fact she was NK'd :/ but I did come up with those reads myself.

~Bee

[Ether]

Day 2, Votecount 8

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4 Iecerint (RadiantCowbells, Ircher, Fire Assassin, Aristophanes)
3 Titus (Iecerint, Not_Mafia, Roshar)
1 androgybee (Titus)
1 Aristophanes (androgybee)

2 Unvote (Gorkington, Maruchan)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2016-05-02 18:00:00), or on Monday, May 2nd at 6:00 pm EDT.

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[Titus]

VOTE: Androgynbee

Nope. Rc is town is a new read. Andro is scum.

Oh and dollars to donuts Iec is town too.

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Iecerint

[androgybee]

Notice some things that don't add up?
Like just look at what you say about me. You say "Fire is probably town"
Then put me in second category.
You say Aristo is null, and put him in second category.

This honestly looks like a rip off completely from Rangers.

Ye you are towny but not as towny as my top category.
Aristo isn't doing anything overly towny but he is making strong pushes that make sense so I didn't want to put him as null.
>_>

[Fire Assassin]

@Titus, can you answer my question?
I want to sort you better. We barely have talked this game.

[androgybee]

tfw titus won't justify her scum read on me.

Fire Assassin is probably still town.

[androgybee]

I feel as though Titus is just trying to fake genuine scum reads right now.

~Bee

[Titus]

@Titus, can you answer my question?
I want to sort you better. We barely have talked this game.

Read my last three posts in sequence.

1) Gork is a townread.
2) Abee is scum and RC is town.
3) IEC is town too.

Please read my posts. :'(

[Aristophanes]

Holy shit, that was

L-1

I didn't see the flurry of ninja posts :S

Still, happy with this wagon!

Ninja'd by a hammer. Nvm lol

[RadiantCowbells]

I really don't think it's the only decent way.

I've got a laundry list of games that I've solved near instantaneously and I virtually never care about who votes who nor do I care overly much about the reasons for it unless something particularly strikes me. There's other ways to play the game, y'know, besides the one you use. I daresay mine is quite effective.
I do see your point about the ass kissing thing- but keep in mind that the person whose ass I was kissing replaced into a slot I was townreading and bled town throughout the game.

I mean, do you think that I wouldn't have voted Ranger if I scumread her?

[Fire Assassin]

Read my last three posts in sequence.

1) Gork is a townread.
2) Abee is scum and RC is town.
3) IEC is town too.

Please read my posts. :'(

I can see that, so you read everyone else as null?

[Fire Assassin]

UNVOTE:

[Titus]

tfw titus won't justify her scum read on me.

Fire Assassin is probably still town.

Oh I can.

RC got sheep's based on nothing. My wagon recycles onto IEC, suggesting that IEC and I have the same alignment.

If scum are rapid sheeping, why didn't they appease RC onto you? That would be because you're scum.

[Fire Assassin]

I don't like androgybee recently.
VOTE: androgybee

I consider this a possible good pressure place.

[Titus]

Read my last three posts in sequence.

1) Gork is a townread.
2) Abee is scum and RC is town.
3) IEC is town too.

Please read my posts. :'(

I can see that, so you read everyone else as null?

Yes.

[androgybee]

VOTE: Titus

~Bee

[RadiantCowbells]

UNVOTE:

no l-1s please.

HOLY FUCK STOP POSTING.
VOTE: ANDROGYBEE

[RadiantCowbells]

Why are you townreading Iecerint?

[Fire Assassin]

Where is my town buddy Gorkington.