Mini 1781: Plotinus Mafia: Game Over

[androgybee]

I just said I was doubting my scumread on you and now you're saying I'm wrong?

you're vote is still on me and just said "this isn't town Nahdia" so yeah.

[Titus]

Yes because I feel you're smarter than this but I am just seriously losing faith in town as a whole.

[androgybee]

I'm willing to admit I'm easier than most to pocket but I don't think it's fair to say I only read people based on likability. I vote people who townread me sometimes. It happens >_> . I'm trying my best this game OK? I'll give some more coherent thoughts once I'm off work and then later some drunk thoughts and hopefully no one will have hammered me before then.

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

Now I'm just really bummed out.......................

[Titus]

If I see you reach L minus 1, I will unvote. Regardless of your alignment, thoughts benefit town.

@Nahdia, I like you're transparent about it. Most aren't.

[androgybee]

I'm pretty sure I'm at L-1 now?

[Ether]

Day 2, Votecount 24

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4 androgybee (Fire Assassin, RadiantCowbells, Ircher, Titus)
3 Titus (Iecerint, Roshar, androgybee)
2 Iecerint (Aristophanes, Not_Mafia)

2 Unvote (Gorkington, Maruchan)

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
The deadline is in (expired on 2016-05-02 18:00:00), or on Monday, May 2nd at 6:00 pm EDT.

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[Iecerint]

Did anything happen in the last 6 pages?

If not I'll vote em.

[Aristophanes]

Did anything happen in the last 6 pages?

If not I'll vote em.

Bickering mostly, but you should actually read it if you care about gathering alignments.

[Ircher]

@Ari
What did you make of it?

[Aristophanes]

Well, I'm less sure on AB slot, but I really don't think there's any way they faked that PM mixup. The doubt comes from whether their role is actually town aligned.
Tracker is a common enough scum role, and it's possible they were lying about their target of Ranger.
I don't think this is the case, and I think they are towny because of it, but I wouldn't be torn apart by their lynch. They were scummy even after the initial claim, it's the supposed mixup with the role that has me pushing them towards town.

Titus is still a townread as well, as I stated, their intentions seem to be coming from a town mindset.

I think you came out a bit worse for wear than they did in all of this. I'd still prefer Iec though, as my case stands. His latest post is yucky too, as it shows he isn't willing to put the effort in and just wants a lynch without further discussion. My vote stands.

[Titus]

Well, I'm less sure on AB slot, but I really don't think there's any way they faked that PM mixup. The doubt comes from whether their role is actually town aligned.
Tracker is a common enough scum role, and it's possible they were lying about their target of Ranger.
I don't think this is the case, and I think they are towny because of it, but I wouldn't be torn apart by their lynch. They were scummy even after the initial claim, it's the supposed mixup with the role that has me pushing them towards town.

Titus is still a townread as well, as I stated, their intentions seem to be coming from a town mindset.

I think you came out a bit worse for wear than they did in all of this. I'd still prefer Iec though, as my case stands. His latest post is yucky too, as it shows he isn't willing to put the effort in and just wants a lynch without further discussion. My vote stands.

I like this posting, minus the part on me. I have doubts on AB but I want them to actually comment on other people to see whether there's a biased thought process (town) or whether everything is just made up.

[Ircher]

I wonder what Andro will post. Im assuming they got some free time now.

[androgybee]

ye im collecting thoughts

[androgybee]

i mean basically my intention is just to post a wall of readlists and thoughts on this day in particular now that i've gotten some distance from stuff that kind of sent me into a frenzy of AtE in the moment. being wagoned is a good perspective to get reads from in my experience if you have the time to take a step back

~Nahdia

[Fire Assassin]

VLA this weekend guys.
UNVOTE:

[androgybee]

Spoiler: a decent amount of words

I guess I'll start with the obvious

Pretty certain Gork is town. I don't think there's much doubt to this so I won't dwell. There's the music vendor thing, but also pretty much everything else they've done in addition to their general pre-apocolypse tone has read super town. Their entrance to d2 getting right down to business is solid. they start out wanting to talk to NM but quickly transition into whatever is available. i dig it, i rly do.

FA i kinda forgot existed. 1095 is good. I also like how in 1149 he votes Ircher and then follows it up saying "Ircher was one of my strongest townreads, he might just be bad bad town. I don't know, but his actions deserve this lynch." I don't think scum would say this, or at least I wouldn't. I avoid inconsistency like the plague as scum despite sometimes, like right here, it actually coming off as p genuine.

Ircher talking about how he should die next came off as really legit to me. Not that I agree and it was kinda cocky lol but I think it was real. There's a lot of things he might be doing with this bit, pretty much all of which I think are town. The townread from Davsto is still carrying over. I recall not liking his posting d1 but late in the day I remember there was a post he made (which I pointed out at the time) where he asked me to metadive him which just felt like a really town post in the context.

FA and Ircher both said they don't wanna lynch Rosh. Can you guys say why that is? I remember having a gut feeling on them being town from their opener but nothing has struck me about them since then. I should probably read that big dialog Maru and Rosh had near the beginning of this day but I wanna focus more on the wagon on me and re-evaluate my thoughts from that event.

Don't like Titus' vote in 1271, that's a poor reaction to a read list. There's no request for elaboration, just an accusation. And I don't even understand the accusation. Why is bee townreading RC so bad when like, everyone else seems to be as well..??? Fire's reaction to the list on the other hand is much better. Good observations, but honestly Fire Assassin, as someone who knows beeboy's posts are town, the inconsistency is again one of those things that is towny because scum would probably be far more meticulous. What motivation to scum have to post their reads in words, then just copy paste Ranger's readlist and say it's their own?

1293 makes literally no sense to me. I read it like 5 times and I'm fucking lost on what the shit this means. It's like I'm reading a different language. Uhh reiteration in 1309.... OK is this point invalidated because or slot has now been wagoned pretty hard or????????

I'm interested in what RC was referring to in 1346 but it's probably not entirely relevant.

1370 is the first post by Titus I've thought wasn't poor all day. Guess we'll see if she keeps that momentum.

@RC in 1378 when did town bandwagon Iecerint? When we were completely absent from the game? Yeah good job lol. Around this point is where RC's scumread on my slot starts to develop and I can see where it comes from to be honest. I wish he'd stop being so stubborn but like, right around 1383 I completely buy he's town having these thoughts. Titus has yet to ever convince me their read is legit. Their vote has on my slot still stems from that awful reaction to a reads list.

why are people confident Titus is town. RC and Aristo can you please explain that shit to me. fmpov there's like, 0 reason whatsoever to be confident in that.

Not_Mafia's vote on my slot is 1419 is decent. appreciate the lack of overexplanating shit. they give a reason they think is legit and that's all they need. RC's 1421 i also good. wrong, but good i think.

@1435 Gork I think you missed something here. RC asked for an explanation on beeboy asking M&B if they're really scum, and beeboy explained it. that doesn't make our slot scum in the slightest and you shouldn't be skeeved by us outting you here. yes, we understood at the beginning of d2 that you were telling us the music was from.

When I jump into the slot, Titus' instinct is seriously to harp on really crappy questions and pull out the same ridiculously bad reaction test on me 3 times lol. and god 1456 is awful. u know the answer to every single one of these like god fucking damn dude. and then follows it up with a "look at me im so town" post in 1510 like christ almighty.

1532 by Aristo is probably the single scummiest post of this day. Actually strike that probably; it is the single scummiest post of this day.

NM ducking in for a second like that without a care in the world feels like nonchalant town to me.

I still don't know where I could have hammered Iecerint.

Uhg Iecerint awkwardly waffles back and forth this entire event and it's annoying the heck out of me.

scum!NM has no reason to switch his vote off me here in 1630. No reason whatsoever. Now that I've claimed tracker scum would want to lynch me that much more.

Not sure how to read Aristo's buying the mod error thing so fast. Like I said with NM, there's not much reason to switch off us, but now that NM has flipped off, maybe they're just trying to be ahead of the pack. I've got a lot of mixed vibes on Aristo but the willingness to have confirmed town overall rings positive to me. I hope I'm not being buddied here >_>

Maru picking out the music vendor thing of all things to call BS on is so odd. On one hand, the fact that they went through Plot's is positive. On the other hand, it's such a lazy thing to pick out when so much just happened. Like maybe scum just wanting to find something to comment on and picked this.

Titus i right to call Ircher's vote on me terrible when they had just caught up on me and called my latest posts "Very Town Indicative". also they just said they buy the AtE. their reasons for voting me in 1728 aren't scumreads at all, they're... i don't fucking know. would scum honestly do this? it's insane.

Titus' frustration with meta and such in general here kinda reads like town to me but it's also kind of irrelevant to the game so I'm not gonna put much stock in it.

[androgybee]

VOTE: Iecerint

[androgybee]

I really don't like Aristo's last post again. They're kinda setting themselves up to switch back over to my wagon if the opportunity presents itself. I understand u don't have to keep up the confidence u had earlier but having said "androgybee may have confirmed themselves as town" then switching to that is... disheartening. like you really were just trying to buddy me in case i survive this or something. sigh.

~Nahdia

[Aristophanes]

I really don't like Aristo's last post again. They're kinda setting themselves up to switch back over to my wagon if the opportunity presents itself. I understand u don't have to keep up the confidence u had earlier but having said "androgybee may have confirmed themselves as town" then switching to that is... disheartening. like you really were just trying to buddy me in case i survive this or something. sigh.

~Nahdia

Not at all. I still believe you to be town. Very strongly. And my vote will not go to you today.
I'm trying to think critically about this rather than let myself be blinded by the role mixup.

[androgybee]

sorry if that was disappointing i can post more tomorrow i have major attention problems and that was really difficult to do and my friends are trying to get me to watch a movie with them now so

Gork, RC, Ircher, Fire Assassin, and Not_Mafia are town.
Not sure on Maru and Roshar,
There's scum in Iecerint, Titus, Aristo

I'm pretty happy with having cut this game in half for now. I want to ISO Maru and Roshar in particular tomorrow. Aristo and Titus have given me a lot of really heavy mixed vibes. Iecerint hasn't really done anything to redeem himself in my eyes.

James Bond and Hard Cider time. seeya nerds <3

~Nahdia

[androgybee]

I really don't like Aristo's last post again. They're kinda setting themselves up to switch back over to my wagon if the opportunity presents itself. I understand u don't have to keep up the confidence u had earlier but having said "androgybee may have confirmed themselves as town" then switching to that is... disheartening. like you really were just trying to buddy me in case i survive this or something. sigh.

~Nahdia

Not at all. I still believe you to be town. Very strongly. And my vote will not go to you today.
I'm trying to think critically about this rather than let myself be blinded by the role mixup.

i dont wanna go without acknowleding this post ok i appreciate u clearing that up and it'd be really sad to me if i was only saved by that mod error so i appreciate u looking past that. i hope u can understand the trepidation i am having on ur slot tho.

ok seeya for real now.

[Aristophanes]

James Bond and Hard Cider time. seeya nerds <3

I'm Jelly
Have fun!

[Aristophanes]

James Bond and Hard Cider time. seeya nerds <3

I'm Jelly
Have fun!

[Aristophanes]

I really don't like Aristo's last post again. They're kinda setting themselves up to switch back over to my wagon if the opportunity presents itself. I understand u don't have to keep up the confidence u had earlier but having said "androgybee may have confirmed themselves as town" then switching to that is... disheartening. like you really were just trying to buddy me in case i survive this or something. sigh.

~Nahdia

Not at all. I still believe you to be town. Very strongly. And my vote will not go to you today.
I'm trying to think critically about this rather than let myself be blinded by the role mixup.

i dont wanna go without acknowleding this post ok i appreciate u clearing that up and it'd be really sad to me if i was only saved by that mod error so i appreciate u looking past that. i hope u can understand the trepidation i am having on ur slot tho.

ok seeya for real now.

I can. That catchup and analysis was quite good though, so I am definitely holding you as town!