The Third Fortnight (Game Over [Bonus Round])

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VOTE: reck

30 is a scumclaim

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VOTE: gorkington

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look at how awkward those gorkington posts are. Seriously seems on edge and fabricated

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hey guys where u at

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Wait, never mind. Hiplop's name is in pink.

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Marquis I figured out the scumtean literally five minutes afrer zor sent out the p.'s. It wasn't hard. That's why he corrected it so soon, all town members got a PM that was cc'd to each other only names missing were you and muffin.

Anti is probably vably town

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nah ily anti

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agreed w/ kats

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why am I a scumread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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why am I a scumread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i didnt care for going after reck's post
also didnt care for your absence from the thread last night

when was I absent

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says the person who has 9

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VOTE: CES

actually, good candidate for scum

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CES is not only trying to rile sentiments AGAINST me, but he is clumsily jumping on both the davsto and bulge wagon

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I think davsto might be scum given the explanation tbones given

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I'm getting wagonned? Lol?

This happened last time too. I voted scum and everyone piled on me

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dav is scum etc

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weak town:
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this guy is voting me without me making a new post in between lmao

VOTE: quil

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scum in Quil, Dav, CES? Probably only one.

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I'm getting wagonned? Lol?

This happened last time too. I voted scum and everyone piled on me

huh?

last fortnite

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You're right, would you prefer me vote you?

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notice the wild dav completely miss that I said one scum in that cluster

why might you ask?

focussed on self preservation

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what im too exausyteed fgor tyhis

in the monring!

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The weird thing is davs "misread of 294" which is not a post you can easily misread

It sounds fake and he's twisting his reads to appease the majority

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I haven't been lynched as scum in like 2 years. Get lynched as town semi often.

Is that clue enough that you guys are seriously off base

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The game I was everyone's top town read until I was confscum by setup is a prengood example yea you're right

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The game I was everyone's top town read until I was confscum by setup is a pren ood example yea you're right anti

Pedit; maybe if I had anything to comment on? I think CES is a good candidate for lurker scum, you initially seemed like bandwsgonning, apathetic to who gets lynched. Quilfords jumps were just bizarre, he weak town read me "misread 294" and then voted me. Hint, 294 isn't a post easily misread

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Anti is reminding me of TWD. Could be in the other group. Lemme see with that

And replacements + town PRS + cop clears meant it was me and expedience pre much 100%

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I typed DAV instead of quil

Was a typo. I'm hungover get over it

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Cheers remember that time you asked wuill about a town read and he then completely shifted to me being his top scumreada

Ya that's scim

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why only one?

I mean, I said probably. I doubt all 3 are playing the same kind of fortnight game.

As tbone said, there'll be one actibe and one "inactive" or lack of heavy presence. I doubt both are that way

Pedit: I literally mean on this page! And early on you did. Less sure of you now

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500 posts since then

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Hyper aggressive

Uh idk why it would be a bad idea cheet

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look at how awkward those gorkington posts are. Seriously seems on edge and fabricated

are you seriously upset about

look at how awkward those gorkington posts are. Seriously seems on edge and fabricated

STILL?

lol

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Oh yea I forgot butterfly

>_> Okay, revised: not power role related things haven't been lynched in a while as scum (both those were guilties)

but who cares. I'm not scum here. This isn't remotely like my scumgame

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STILL?

lol

>:(

if you keep up this prickly shit im not gonna give a shit about sorting you.

i donjt get it

sorry if i offended you but i have no idea how that could be hurtful

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you can actually add evolution to that list now that that clusterfuck of misery is over.

add it to mine

someone had an innocent on me and was "convinced I could still be scum" so I got mislynched

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b/c youre candidate to be scum but less so than quil? obvious?

nonsensical question

caught up before it

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If you find that Anti's post is nonsensical... what is wrong with you?

What he's saying is:

> You said about voting scum (CES) and a wagon forming on your because of it as happened in the previous game
> The wagon on you actually built considerably after that vote
> So how the balls are they connected events in any way?

I didnt say I voted scum and thats why I got wagonned

I said I got wagonned and was voting scum

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ALSO NONE OF YOUR QUESTIONS WERE REMOTELY IMPORTANT

ITS ASKING QUESTIONS FOR THE SAKE OF FUCKING LOOKING LIKE YOURE DOING SOMETHING

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how the fuck do ANY of those questions help you gamesolve/scumhunt dav?

they fucking don't. You're being a poser

VOTE: davscum

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fake^

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fake^

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I ignored them because of the last part

why answer useless questions

anti's i genuinely didn't understand but it seemed like nitpicking

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i DONT KNOW dav but CAPS SURE ARE fun

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They are not useless holy crap

How the FUCK are questions asking about your THOUGHT PROCESSES with YOUR SCUMREADS, asking HOW you are thinking things and WHY, USELESS?

Like, understand how another player is thinking stuff and why is literally the opposite of useless, it's some of the most USEFUL information in the game

Because if I can find out your supposed thought processes, I can decide whether I think they are genuine and town or fake and scum

Like how the fuck can you have been on this site since 2011 and not realised that questions like that are important

You are spouting rubbish that I simply cannot believe

Also

YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED WHY YOU THOUGHT I WAS SCUM

i explained them already

it should be obvious? you are commonly scumread. I have minimal unique things to say. Your jumping feels oppurtunistic, your questioning feels fake

what else do you want

the questions were stupid, other than anti's, which I misunderstood.

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You realize we only have to lynch one scum, right, and you're probably the single most likely person to be lynched? How is Davsto trying to make sense of your posts not trying to solve the game?

yea and I'm not it

hes asking very surface level questions that do little

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hiplop a lot more flaily here then when he was going to be lynched in the previous fortnight.

irrelevant

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I was really off my game when I came back from hiatus

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need to do some proper scum meta

this is an example of shitty scum player metaing me

I have so many games since then.

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you're doing that classic scum tactic where you lash out at people voting you because it's much easier and much more imperative to try and poke holes in their reasoning than it is to search for scum elsewhere

i mean outside of your first three posts you have exclusively attacked people voting you

wise observation

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calculating that

whos scum besides me?

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one of reck, the bulge, katsuki and snarkysnowman though i feel worst about reck, defs need meatier, scumhuntier posts out of him after #74 but he seems to be going through a rough patch irl so i don't know if we're gonna get them :/

"all the lurkers"

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^^^^^^

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he called me town and then someone voted me and decided I was his scummiest read

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I think its true.

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good rebuttle

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I was being serious lol

honestly most of the lurkers arent on my wagon which makes it hard to discern a specific one

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one of reck, the bulge, katsuki and snarkysnowman though i feel worst about reck, defs need meatier, scumhuntier posts out of him after #74 but he seems to be going through a rough patch irl so i don't know if we're gonna get them :/

"all the lurkers"

Did you really just call me a lurker? >.>

>_>

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DAV

None of this is alignment telling

You're causing noise letting scum slip through the cracks. Cut it out will ya

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Just watch me

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Hiplop, in this game, right now, the only thing I want to watch you do is be lynched.

Just saying.

Summarize for the class why

Cuz I'm not answering your stupid questions?

Oh davesto

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dav.
this back and forth between you and hip is getting tired.

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All of davs stuff is irrelevant

He's mad not sxumrading me and I'm trying to show him the difference.

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I feel like scum is lurking. I'm getting him to be quiet.

I am reading the game. I've said this discussion is totally unnecessary.

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All good makes me less likely to respond positively

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He went from scum to likely null-scum/weakscum

Enough I'm willing to consider him as town

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his push on me seems genuinely frustrated.

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3but okay, this is the problem

him being outraged has caused me/him to basically be the only presceneces in the game. Scum is gonna win from hiding behind the crack

now can you quit it cheet? this is NOT helpful

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I'm pretty blatantly town, cheet.

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what am I doing to advance myself cheet?

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I'm a good scumhunter when left alone. Not so good when backed into a corner. Always been true. I can nail scumteams if I'm given space, otherwise I'm incredibly spotty.

I am not doing anything survivalistic. I'm very much succumbing to my own destiny. I'm terrible at getting out of ruts. See: the last fortnight for example.

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slightly exaggerated, yes.

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and WHO GIVES A SHIT

honestly

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maybe if there was a case on that wasn't "he disagrees on why quilford scumreads him~!~!~"

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literally like 10 pages of wasted space

further hurts town b/c apathy (a problem we are ALREADY STRUGGLING WITH IN THIS GAME) and lets scum hide.

You are being not helpful. Also needlessly bitchy. Can we stop and ACTUALLY FIND SCUM? fuck

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I'm a good scumhunter when left alone. Not so good when backed into a corner. Always been true. I can nail scumteams if I'm given space, otherwise I'm incredibly spotty.

I am not doing anything survivalistic. I'm very much succumbing to my own destiny. I'm terrible at getting out of ruts. See: the last fortnight for example.

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we get it. You say that like 1/3 of your posts

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you're right im the one being rude... :\

but whatever, sorry for offending you or whatever.

I suck at defneding myself against nothing? Not a good mafia quality.

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theres only so many times I can tell you this isn't my scumgame before I get bored and want to sleep forever

the case on me is basically "we want him to do something and hes not!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

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I'm kevin bacon and I'll rebelliously dance all over this thread until you guys let me have my party

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I'm sorry. Trying to tell them to stop pesturing me :\

sorry bins, and all town members.I don't want to be the source of apathy but I don't want to lose the game either.

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why would I act like this and garner unnecessary attention

it makes no fucking sense as scum cheet

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why would I act like this and garner unnecessary attention

it makes no fucking sense as scum cheet

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still have a few issues w/ hiplop:

1) i have a a very hard time believing he thinks aggression is a scumtell for me AND this game doesn't really bear any resemblance to walking dead 2
2) i hate that he completely dropped the angle once i unvoted him
3) i hate that he's appealing to "gimme' space" when he's had pages and pages of space before the wagon came to be and he was sitting on his ass
4) snarky's departure from the wagon is really sketchy

Just the certain nature of it. I still am thinking it?

I was gone for that time :/

Lol ya it's me and snarky

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I mean, I'm pretty sure I was. I never intended to lurk. I probably forgot/was busier than it seemed

Pedit: it's a fucking gut thing anti

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VOTE: anti

Town you would understand.

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This is exactly the style of aggressiveness from TWD

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Butterfly Tammy got a guilty on me? I kept her alive to be nice
Steven universe, setup mechanics proved me as only candidate for scum.
Hope plus one, open game that eventually became an autolose. I asked to forfeit because of the nature of that game

These are irrelevant, but

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Town you wouldn't push this angle, sorry.

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I assumed you asked for my scum games there ?

Evolution mafia, I played a lurky game and you defended me. You knew I was town because of exactly situations like this. This game should not be different

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It is in spurts and he gets disinterested

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gonna take a break from this game. can't take this. Not too long, we need players in here who aren't me

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Like can you sort that shit out pls if you're town

Terrible when backed into a wall

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and whos pushes this game have been good, quil?

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VOTE: tbone

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dropped off face of earth

is active onsite

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Clutters up thread, makes it easier for scum to hide.

this makes no fucking sense.

sorry dav.

Don't talk down to me, also.

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using it on me makes no sense dav

fucking context holy shit

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and you have no worries about the same thing happening with hiplop?

Are you kidding?

I lurked my way out of the wagon? Seriously?

Are you reading the same thread

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So why don't we just lynch him

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Because he was scummy af and if you ask me that's a pretty good candidate to lynch

And then he lurked under the pretense of giving the game "more space" and bam the wagon on him slowly fades

Like fuck, why aren't we just lynching this faster

Also, those personal attacks are incredibly unnecessary. Holy crap dude, chill.

DAV, you can't say the last line after your posts about me, sorry.

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I love you muffin.

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Both katmugfin and scarymuffin

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when did i say you hadn't previously made another argument about him? that's not even the fucking point

when youre arguing someone should be lynched for fucking god-awful reasons, it doesn't matter if you've previously given a less god-awful reason, you're still spewing shit

the conversation to this point may as well have been

X: hey we should lynch davsto because his avatar scares small children
Y: well, i don't think that's true and i don't think that's a good reason to lynch him
X: WHAT!?!??! ARE YOU SAYING WE SHOULDN'T LYNCH HIM JUST BECAUSE HIS AVATAR DOESN'T SCARE SMALL CHILDREN?
Y: no, i'm calling your argument shit
X: BUT I'VE PREVIOUSLY MADE OTHER POINTS SO IT DOESN'T MATTER. WHY ARE YOU MISREPRESENTING ME???!??!
Y: fuck off, cunt

This. DAV, your reasoning was such utter shit I couldn't be bothered responding. I told you It was svit, you got all flustered and tunnely because of it. Accuse me and lose, but I'm not getting lynched from your shit factory of a case

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My preference would be to Lynch Nosferatu.

VOTE: Nosferatu

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And I have my backup target to guess. I'm good here.

I'm sorry but dav being hella pretentious while saying other people should cut off the personal attacks kinda kills fun to me. See: davvsmuffin man for evidence

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When did I even talk to you goeky

Reck posting was horrific and Nosferatu is even worse. PV is an okay secondary, but id much prefer nos

2 days is a shit ton of time, dude. That line of logic is HORRIBLE. 2 days is a huge chunk of time in a fucking 14 day game. Don't promotentown apathy scumbutt

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I HOPE DAV is scum but I'm afraid that's likely not the case. :/

Do me a favour and look at Nosferatu's ISO, CES. Tell me that is anything resembling Towny. Now look at recks, it's even worse.

These are people who don't usually act this way. Reck had a hard time so I understand him leaving, but before that his posts were just off.

We have all seen PV be underwhelming. He's a lovable dude but is a lurker. The PV Lynch feels like policy/oppurtunism, while nos is basically for same reason but isn't a inherent quality of the player

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Wouldn't be surprised if that was a pathetic attempt by CES to drift the wagon off course before it can begin.

Who the fuck says "we onyl have two days left"

Two whole fucking days

Pedit: cheet, try and find any fucking scum motivation in what I've done. I've picked unnecessary fights, drawn attention and fizzled out. That's not even remotely ideal scum strategy

DAV is literally saying me and zmuffinman are partners. It's the worst case I've ever seen on mafiascum, by far. It hurts me deeply. This is a kid mad I called his questions bad. You're listening to that as a reason to scumreada me

Gorky, you have the nerve to say I've done nothing when I have considerably more posts showing my alignment than any alternative. It's so fucking bizarre

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You're sleeping a overconfident childish case cheet

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You're sleeping a overconfident childish case cheet

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You didn't, I did.

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Cool, I wouldn't play suboptimally. I wouldn't make myself incredibly likely to get accused by town DAV in this setup.

Only way I'm scum is if I'm fleeing. Guess who's vote is tied up? Mine. Use your brain

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Like, I've basically guaranteed you and DAV accusing me like impulsive monkeys.

That is beyond terrible. I'm fine with making DAV lose because he's been obnoxious. I'd prefer you to smarten up. I'm rather fond of you gorky

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Why PV over Nosferatu?

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How the fuck did you get that out of that post

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I said you were town and gonna accuse me. You've made me mad so I'm fine with you losing

Ewww. Gorky is the antithesis to DAV. DAV is deadset on utter garbage reads

While Gorky is committing to fucking two well known site lurkers are his scum pool. PeregrineV/snarky is the fucking scummiest reads list I've ever seen

I've never NOT seen snarky get mislynched. I saw him almost get lynched as a fucking Mason. Gorky knows this. Perev is no different.

Gorky/nosferatu

Pedit: DAV please read that post like a human being plz and thx

Also no one wants to read this, please don't.
Gg

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I wouldn't make myself incredibly likely to get accused by town DAV

Like

That is saying "lol dav is shit is town there is no way that him of all people would find me as scum"

Can you read y/n

Literally post before I said why would I as scum get you to be on my tail. It's makes no sense. If I just answered your bullshit questions you wouldn't be like this.

DAV, chill. You have crossed the line. It's just not fun to deal with this. Accuse me and get over it, okay?

Multiple people have asked you to not be pretentious like this. When thatbid the case, it's usually not the world that is mad, it's you. It's a game. I was talking about a game.

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^ FLEE CLAIM XD

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It wouldn't be post-2014 mafia without a bunch of hurt feelings!

Davsto, it's a game. You're very offbase and have made a bunch of really uncalled for remarks. It's cool. We all do it.

It's a game. Don't forget that. We're having fun, or supposed to be. Your case is very poor, but you'll get better at that. Please don't get actually upset. I think you're a fine fellow who apparently takes things differently than we expect. I recommend you go for a cool down walk and come back, look at what you said. It's fine. I don't mind

Pedit: what about tbone is scummy? I think he actually just left the site

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Tbone didn't post a single time from April 28th -> may fourth on site

I think he just had to leave. I don't think perev is scum

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I also think the Canadian to British thing is effecting things

I think you took mad to mean like...crazy? I literally meant like...mad...like...angry

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Bulge, were basically aligned on reads.

Go to Nosferatu instead? I think it's a more valid wagon.

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I can't decide between CES/you actually.
Half the time you're very Townie to me, half the time I'm unsure

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I'm much more comfortable on nosferatu

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No idea. He's certainly not the best shot at scum either way.

Same with perev. This is a guy who I have ayed like 100 games with and seen post less than a hundred times in total tbh. He is the ultimate lurker. You can see he even lurked his way through presenting the scummies!

Having two of the most notorious lurkers as either alignment as your top scumreada is pretty ridiculous

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Nosferatu is the scummy kinda lurker. Everyone unanimously sees reck as at least somehow scummy. And nos is doing effectively nothing

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Perev vote nos!

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Tbone didn't post a single time from April 28th -> may fourth on site

I think he just had to leave. I don't think perev is scum

yeah he didn't post

he came online on at least two occasions though so he was on site

think that is relevant? I'm unsure. Very possible he just checked in twice? I doubt he'd commit that hard to siteflaking.

Do you?

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he checked in then started posting on site after he was replaced

maybe he was legitimately busy and didn't even have time to check into the game to say "hey I'm scu- uh, I mean busy right now."

you have to wonder why he signed up for a game like this, if that's the case

Honestly good point!

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quil your gut read is not valid

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I'd be okay with pv, I guess.

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reading last fortnight was interesting in that hip calling himself obvtown seems pretty par for the course, but he was also a lot less awful to play with back then.
not really sure what to make of it.

is kind of hilarious for him to imply that he was voted because he voted t-bone when he let go of that read after like ten posts in his iso though.

I. Never. Fucking. Said. That.

Holy shit you're intolerable

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And that's the worst "metadive" I've ever seen

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Barely counts

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Gork y cmon man. What have I said to you that's all that bad? The things you've said to me I think are much worse

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the only coherent thing im getting out of metadiving hiplop is that i suspect that him being over the top ridiculous when being run up is more likely to scum from scumhip than townhip.

Like I refuse to believe this is the best you can do. You're a good player and this is a shit tier push

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John. Why are you voting me. It makes no sense

You even realize she's fucking on the sidelines.

I made points against nos. Your friend discreditedkke no tomorrow.

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I'm voting you because you're fleeing. I have no idea why anyone would play like you are otherwise. From the "I'm obviously town" bit to the multiple page spanning personal arguments with Gorky and Dav. That's not finding scum, its a distraction that saturates the thread with bullshit that makes the game easier for scum and harder for town. If you were a newer or worse player I might be able to write it off as inexperience or arrogance, but you should know better.

I am fucking obvious town.

Gorky, play like what? You've been SUPER belittling all game.

pedit: hes here. He's caught up. Says so himself.

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gorkington do me a favour and iso the two of us together

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I'm voting you because you're fleeing. I have no idea why anyone would play like you are otherwise. From the "I'm obviously town" bit to the multiple page spanning personal arguments with Gorky and Dav. That's not finding scum, its a distraction that saturates the thread with bullshit that makes the game easier for scum and harder for town. If you were a newer or worse player I might be able to write it off as inexperience or arrogance, but you should know better.

I'll give you a hint, they were the ones continuing to push that. I kept saying we should stop.

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no

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I don't bend my game philosophy for their bad questions.

Wouldn't give in as either alignment.

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your meta is the worst example ive ever seen honestly

guess what? rage is dependant on how mad i am not alignment

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No

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You've seemed pretty protown all game, silly.

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VOTE: snarky

Better than perev case

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a snarky lynch just seems like a peace of mind lynch imo

Totally. Better than other options, unfortunately.

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VOTE: pv

looks like snarky isn't getting steam; I dont want to lose.

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Gorkington we've played how many fucking times

You know way better than this

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Cheet, you've been nothing but rude to me. I didn't 'engage" with you because you were being genuinely very rude.

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3you called me a shitty person because I didn't think dav' questions were good

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we get it. You say that like 1/3 of your posts

i called you a shitty person for this.
what the fuck are you on about.

fora joke? :\

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you really did not come across as "funny haha cheet im just kidding around" there at all.
if that was your intention, then sorry, but you more came across as a dick being like "youre being really annoying right now".

we're friends

it was a joke about ytour hate mafia club thing...

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I certainly am not

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town!

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I love you muffinman. your style is great

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Wouldnt have got you for a while, gj johnny.