Mini 1762: Game Over

[GuyInFreezer]

Heyo!

[GuyInFreezer]

Definitely towns: {kirroha, Nino, Rubixxx}

The rest is just one jumbled mess I have to look at more because they just keep shifting about.
Need to hear more from ink.
RC and Rasko's sudden jumps on Nino were really awkward.

Ink replaced out, how were you planning to hear more from him?

Just for a fun exercise, explain why you think kirroha is town based on what happened in this game.

[GuyInFreezer]

Read halfway into Rubix's ISO.
I don't think I can continue one without an aspirin lol

I have a pretty mixed feeling about him so far but gut says he's town and if he is I have so much to tell him post-game. I probably want to review his first game.

[GuyInFreezer]

Anyway, can I get a readlist off of y'all so

it's easier to manipulate

I can catch up easier and quicker?

[GuyInFreezer]

To be fair I had work today.
I'm free now though.

[GuyInFreezer]

Pretty sure beeboy is scum. I saw the softclaim had 13 letters on d1 and thought it might be a vanilla claim. I was hoping he was actually a town PR and was trying to hide it by like, encoding "xxxxxcopxxxxx" or something like that, which would be really clever, although kind of counterproductive given that he replaced out... but if it was actually a vt claim then I find it hard to believe that he would have made that claim with an emphasis on "lol you can't crack this" with it actually having been a 13-letter ciphertext of "vanilla townie."

Well that's beeboy for you.
With that said I learned one time that you are good to sheep if you're town. Are you town?

[GuyInFreezer]

Also just because it seems like the focus is shifting to meowth im going to assume that he's town, PoE and see if the result looks good or not.

[GuyInFreezer]

Man, I can't believe almost half of you are scum

How many do you have in mind?

[GuyInFreezer]

RC is .

[GuyInFreezer]

Rask stop being lazy or you get the paddle.

[GuyInFreezer]

So apparently rubix have been tunneling my slot. He's gonna be so disappointed.

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh boy rubix.
RN I lean him as town but I'm still waffling because stuff like all that gungho erratic reason for scumreading someone feels town but stuff like this man

I fucking told you guys Kill was town! FUCK! Everyone who FoSed them is getting a MAJOR side-eye today!

This is a classic newbscum "hey I TOTALLY didn't kill this guy!" tell.

I still need to look over his first game which apparently where he was town. "Im enacting a newbtell because I suck" stance in his second game is hella lame and I think someone said that the behavior in this game and his last game was way different. (I think it was BBT? If so then my god he actually used meta????)

[GuyInFreezer]

And this is coming from me who is awfully generous about giving townreads and have a decent accuracy of reading out-of-the-box playstyles.

[GuyInFreezer]

(My god. I actually bragged something about my scumhunting. This is gonna backfire so fucking hard)

[GuyInFreezer]

Wait what the hell?

I mentioned you being good for sheeping because I liked your townread of syndesis. What happened between then and now?

[GuyInFreezer]

I myself had no read on that person yet.

I dunno why but I did like that part of your reads post.

[GuyInFreezer]

Have*

It's a present tense.

[GuyInFreezer]

So it's basically a PoE huh

[GuyInFreezer]

(Oh also, even without all this you are still indeed good to sheep! Right now I just have a problem with your read

because I'm in the scumpool

)

[GuyInFreezer]

I loathe every avi you had so far.

[GuyInFreezer]

I heard all the cool guys play Master Yi and teemo, not annie.

[GuyInFreezer]

Anyway, one of my top priority is now figuring out of implosion have too many townreads because they really all look town in his pov or he's just scum playing one of his hardest game yet.

[GuyInFreezer]

Eww.

Annie is best champ. shush.

You're scumreading me? y?

When did I say I was scumreading you?

I simply posted "."

[GuyInFreezer]

Actually why are you voting claimed vig

[GuyInFreezer]

What's your read on me?

.

Literally.

[GuyInFreezer]

Sorry I have not been posting for a while, I have been very tired >_<"

In any case, I am not scum. I am confirmed town. I am the 1-shot vigilante who killed BBT/Dierfire. I can prove this.

VOTE: I am Innocent Whatever. The BBT wagon seems to be losing track anyway. I want to know why you are so flipfloppy. Is BBT scum or not? Giam Avi.

"Giam Avi" = unscrambles to "I am Vig"

But it is still a

bullet

To hint that I have one bullet.

Why am I a strong townread of everyone...? I basically didn't help much and now I messed up and am basically useless... >_<"

I am useless now because I wasted my one bullet and shot a townie.

I shot BBT because I trusted in RC-senpai's reads. But now I think one of RC-senpai and Rasko is scum, because it is so opportunistic to vote for me at this point that I am quite confident it should be one of them.

VOTE: Rasko

[GuyInFreezer]

What did the dude do to garner scumread

[GuyInFreezer]

Dunno man.
I never played with him before so I dunno how his town self look.

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh boy a trigger that I've been trying so hard to avoid.

[GuyInFreezer]

I think I'm bringing the discussion people oh so wanted.
Where are the rest?

[GuyInFreezer]

Well I'm getting bored.

VOTE: kirroha

[GuyInFreezer]

Re: conclusion
My progress is all in this thread.

Re: vote
It would be pointless if I explain anything further at this point.

[GuyInFreezer]

????????

[GuyInFreezer]

How did I trigger you GIF?

Not me.
Rubixxx.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: Rubixxx

I'm sorry.

????????

[GuyInFreezer]

Guys this is my mafia game in a while.

Please do not make me flip a table 2 days into the game.

[GuyInFreezer]

prodge

nothing to say apart from how scattered everybody's votes are

can we all collectively merge into one brain; i think that would be easier

Ok.

VOTE: Golden Robster

L-2.

[GuyInFreezer]

Rubix and rask, but that's just to have a clearer vision of this game.

[GuyInFreezer]

I have no idea what you're doing right now.

Plus, the two names I mentioned I explicitly said I am leaning town on those (for now anyway).

[GuyInFreezer]

it's because nobody is listening to me

and it sucks

Dunno man.
I don't remember ignoring any of your posts since I replaced in.

In fact, I answered everything that you threw at me.

[GuyInFreezer]

What do you find weird about it?

[GuyInFreezer]

With that said, I suggest a massclaim because the activity is too sparse for a potential day before mylo.

[GuyInFreezer]

With that said, I suggest a massclaim because the activity is too sparse for a potential day before mylo.

Say before lylo*

Whoops miscalculation

[GuyInFreezer]

UNVOTE:

No lynching until we massclaim thanks

[GuyInFreezer]

What do you find weird about it?

The fact that he tries to push for my claim, when i've already claimed vt fucking ages ago

and i don't have a pr

And you found nothing weird about the "intent to hammer lolilol" part?

[GuyInFreezer]

What do you find weird about it?

The fact that he tries to push for my claim, when i've already claimed vt fucking ages ago

and i don't have a pr

And you found nothing weird about the "intent to hammer lolilol" part?

why are you trying to point out obvious shit that i can see

That would be because you told me that you found the asking for claims part weird other than the "obvious shit" that was right there.

I am aware that she's on top of your list but does that mean you should just take it even though it was weird as hell and probably should give people a flag on seeing her coming out of nowhere and stating intent to hammer?

Or did she claim something really town?

[GuyInFreezer]

I read D1 and it didn't help me finding my answer.
What do?

[GuyInFreezer]

Vote Golden Robster.

We should've gotten this slot D1. Shortcut and Taisho were both awful and for someone who 'read D1' you sure had nothing to say about that. That and your awful jump off the GR wagon is terrible. Got cold feet from bussing?

VOTE: Golden Robster

I have absolutely no problem with their posts.
I would even overreach and say Taisho posts slightly leaned town.

[GuyInFreezer]

With that said though, I believe I'm almost there solving this game and probably come with a readlist and start strongarming lynches from there.

[GuyInFreezer]

How can you even think that?

Why the hell does nobody understand my Shortcut case. Is it that baffling/off the mark that nobody thinks it makes any sense?

Your entire case breaks down with "Shortcut is actually capable of being aggressive with his vote as scum."

What do you find weird about it?

The fact that he tries to push for my claim, when i've already claimed vt fucking ages ago

and i don't have a pr

And you found nothing weird about the "intent to hammer lolilol" part?

why are you trying to point out obvious shit that i can see

That would be because you told me that you found the asking for claims part weird other than the "obvious shit" that was right there.

I am aware that she's on top of your list but does that mean you should just take it even though it was weird as hell and probably should give people a flag on seeing her coming out of nowhere and stating intent to hammer?

Or did she claim something really town?

Again, for someone who claimed to have 'read D1' you should know this. It was a big part of D1.

That was a jab, actually.

[GuyInFreezer]

For a progress report though, my "I don't want to lynch implosion" is currently standing at 13%.

[GuyInFreezer]

And here comes someone asking why massclaiming a day before potential lylo is useful.

Let's say we mislynch today.
Tomorrow is a lylo. Someone claims a cop with a guilty.
How much headache will you get from it?

[GuyInFreezer]

Also Rask is slowly devolving into "bullet to the brain" category which is not good to have at this point of the game.

[GuyInFreezer]

Haven't had time actually.

I do want massclaim to finish before I solidify anything though.
If no one is willing to claim voluntarily, I'll claim first and popcorn.

I'm a VT, Rask claims next.

[GuyInFreezer]

Hi I'm not really here and I'm at work slimming things but

HOW IS THE TONE OFF? LIKE WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON?

Ironically this is off-tone.

[GuyInFreezer]

i have something to say and will within 30 minutes when I come from work.

[GuyInFreezer]

Apparently GR has no problem with me flinging mud at him with the way I have despite having me in the lower part of his readlist.
That's something interesting to note.

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....

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@Mod: V/LA until Tuesday.

[GuyInFreezer]

Hello MoI

You listed kirroha as scum with a reason "VT crumb is not a towntell". Do you have any other reason than that?

[GuyInFreezer]

so am I confirmed town

[GuyInFreezer]

Well aside from the fact that his claim seems pretty far fetched I’m wondering why you drew this conclusion given that Radient basically said he thinks his investigations can be compromised.

So please enlighten us on how you came to that conclusion.

It's more like "it'll be great if I was a confirmed town for that"

tbh, I don't think the claim is not that far-fetched because the JoaT had a GS and fishing for doctor when you have GS makes sense since for some reason vig-gs-scumdoc tend to be meta these days.

[GuyInFreezer]

It's more like "it'll be great if I was a confirmed town for that"

tbh, I don't think the claim is not that far-fetched because the JoaT had a GS and fishing for doctor when you have GS makes sense since for some reason vig-gs-scumdoc tend to be meta these days.

1. Ok putting aside that you were just wanting to be confirmed - who are your scum-reads and why?

2. You aren't focusing on the important points of why I find it farfetched. He's presenting a JOAT with two strong investigation powers and a convenient defense power. I don't care about the Vig-GS-Scumdoc meta per-se ... can you find me meta that shows JOATs that actually have double strong investigation powers? I'm not poring through games myself but that particular set of JOAT powers doesn't seem very logically put together.

1. I don't play that way.
Before the activity died down due to rubix replace out, my read was something like RC/GR/Nino town, kirroha townish, waffling on your slot, and Rask needing to eat a vigshot.

I did want implosion dead but it was more from PoE and him being underwhelming, but being underwhelming part is something I understand completely given the activity here.

Right now? Whatever clear that implosion got makes him far away from being scum. I haven't read your giant posts yet and prob won't have time to until tonight or tomorrow morning.

With that said,

2. Gunsmith is not that powerful role when vig is present, especially when it's only 1-shot. I don't play normals that much so I can't tell you who have used double investigative powers, but I for one likes to use double investigative JoaT (usually something like tracker/rolecop/utility variant). Also because otherwise town is lacking an investigative power to complete the setup, I incline to believe his claim.

[GuyInFreezer]

With that said, If I dare guessing the setup, It's probably something like 3-shot JK/1SV/JoaT vs 2 goons/Doctor (or strongman).

[GuyInFreezer]

No because stuff I've found so far they're all perfectly reasonable as town as well. Deadtivity didn't help much.

[GuyInFreezer]

(Plus, I townhunt and PoE anyway so usually I never have a solid scumread but instead a solid townread)

[GuyInFreezer]

I managed to read the kirroha case.

But though, what would be her scumotivation of crumbing a VT when pressured?

[GuyInFreezer]

@MoI

[GuyInFreezer]

also re: rask
I just can't see him anything other than a vig bait

[GuyInFreezer]

Why do you keep addressing Rask as Vig-bait?

Me calling him vigbait is mutually exclusive to Nino's vig claim. I use that term as "my god I wish I was a dayvig so I can shoot him rn" anyway. So basically someone I can't read for not-very-great reason.

[GuyInFreezer]

Thanks RC.

[GuyInFreezer]

oh just worth mentioning that we do not know if RC actually checked me or not.

[GuyInFreezer]

Saving this thread in (expired on 2016-04-14 15:53:46)

[GuyInFreezer]

First of all I would lynch Rask in a heartbeat if it wasn't for my gut is yelling Rask-town. I guess my next step is figuring out why my gut is telling me that he's town.

[GuyInFreezer]

Keep suggesting to 1v1 with self after losing a scum member is probably one of the reason.

[GuyInFreezer]

What the hell?! IaI is like one of the least scummy dudes out there. Seriously. I'd rather lynch Robster, even though in his recent entrance he was a lot townier than his predecessors. I'd rather have no lynch than to lynch someone whom I've gotten nothing but a town read on throughout the whole game.

VOTE: Golden Robster

But then...

WHO'S ONLINE POST NOW. IF THERE ARE 6-7 (0-1 people are currently on the wagon) PEOPLE THEN HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A TOJAM (beeboy. Was town.) OR BBT (Also town.) LYNCH INSTEAD

we have the votes for gr then

VOTE: Golden

Are we seriously ignoring Rask, whose apparently content with jumping off the BBT wagon to the Kill wagon and then to the IaI wagon and finally my wagon.

Are we seriously ignoring Syndesis, who lead the IaI wagon and started it without evidence.

Are we seriously ignoring Tojam (Town) who crumbed a role and publicly told us that he has a pr role.

Are we seriously ignoring BBT (Town) whose content in saving his own ass and outright publicly stating that the other wagons are completely fine in order to save his own ass.

[GuyInFreezer]

Yeah 891 also makes me think that Rask is not scum.

[GuyInFreezer]

sure I can do a recap, if the quotes didn't hint it off.

kirroha -> (implosion/syn) -> Rask -> MoI is where I'm standing at rn. sorting stuff in parenthesis is my next course of action.

[GuyInFreezer]

why did kirroha went so below for me all of the sudden?
I have no clue how exactly it happened but it just happened to turn out like that while I was sorting.

Nano is town, and based on the GR's panic near the end of D1, I believe rask and syn lean toward more town. (So I guess implosion->Syndesis).

But then implo is a gs inno. So his mathematical chance of being scum is lower. (Syndesis -> implosion)

MoI his general contribution looks town. I'm gonna admit I didn't really paid that much attention to him much in terms of figuring out the alignment and assumed that he's town but the only place he can be switched in my readlist... is with kirroha.

[GuyInFreezer]

So part of my next course of action would be to find out if I want to persue an association or a mathematical probability.

[GuyInFreezer]

So after I quoted the late D1 stuffs, I thought hard about what can I assume and not assume. kirroha's quotes, tbh, I have no clue what conclusion I can draw from that. Usually rushed situation gets the most honest reaction thus my decision to look there. But it's hard man.

[GuyInFreezer]

prod dodge

Will be here Sunday morning.

[GuyInFreezer]

but what if I dont want to lynch rask

[GuyInFreezer]

all right. my mind is made up.

VOTE: kirroha

[GuyInFreezer]

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[GuyInFreezer]

Why magna?

[GuyInFreezer]

Sorry for flaking out of the game

I could've sworn I sent a V/LA PM to the mod but apparently I didn't send one and got kicked out <.<