Mini 1781: Plotinus Mafia: Game Over

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Hi guys.

You matter to god.

But I haven't read anything. :[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[

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I wonder which of Radja and Titus is responsible for the BG reference. ^^

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OK, now I'm reading.

I'm really virtuous.

A nice man is making me eggs.

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why were half of your points about the slot you replaced.
silly goose.

Ya but that makes the slot more rather than less likely town b.

Silly goose.

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i disagree and that focus is borderline boring.
dissect me.
i dare you.
maybe i'll even talk about my davsto comment in more detail if you impress me.

Oh gosh.

Well the reason is that he knows his own alignment more than others, but only if he is town.

The myopia is not pro-town necessarily, but it still indicates a town alignment.

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His PBPA is so dumb tho. Like any1 is ever going to read that monstrosity.

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No, I'm not. I don't do drugs.

ilu

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I wonder which of Radja and Titus is responsible for the BG reference. ^^

Both my hydras share interests

P.s. I am drunk...

Someone show me a good case

I think Gorkinger is maybe scum among the active players.

It's a mystery among the others.

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But I still have 5 pages!

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I think Maruchan is town.

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I don't think Fire Asssassin is particularly town tbh now that I notice that he's gorkles's wagon.

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Yup, I need my 10000 word speech Iec.

im on it bb.

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hope+1.

lol

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ircher is being an incoherent mess at me while acting like hes actually good at the game.
sorry.
not interested in playing nice.

Ircher's town tho so seems like a waste b.

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I am worried about both of these players right now, and Maruchan is still having me cautious but I don't think my read on them is as strong on them as before.

Dear lord. Lord-Gorkington is leading the wagon on them, and I *still* want to join it.

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Ircher, Gork is town and so are you, so stop it.

Gork, are you worried about Iecerint? Do you agree with my townread on Ircher?

-Radja

how do you feel about Xkfyu? There's something about him that's rubbing me the wrong way.

-Radja

Radja pls don't be scum I was so excited to play wit u.

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Why the fuck do people keep mentioning Smudger?

I kept being like "I need to go back and see why everyone is obsessed with them because I didn't even notice his posts."

HE HAS TWO POSTS. TWO SENTENCES.

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im a prat.
it doesnt mean that my reads are off the mark though.
q.q

Actually I like your reads a lot, I just think you might be scum because you spent some time casting dispersions on ppl who're probably town (e.g., Ircher shortly after replacing Davsto). It read like you were trying to reduce an [accurate] group town read secondary to the replacement, but I think my attitude toward him was like "whatever we don't have to mess with this puzzle as much now."

I mean tbh I don't want to lynch you at all tho because at least you're postin and it's not bullshit.

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And ya, FA is pretty vapid but is kinda dishonest about it.
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I don't want to end the day yet tho and I'm concerned that my vote + rhetoric will do that.

Unvote; Vote: ActionDan

Therefore, I will vote for ActionDaniel.

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Why on earth are you a) voting for me and b) cursed with the weird perceptual error that prevents you from spelling my name?

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ircher is starting to lose all the towny points his slot had gaiend with me. First he joins a case withotu reading it, then calls the person making the case scummy then literally jumps pointlessly onto a random other party with no reason or incentive.

He's town until someone gets a guilty on him as far as I'm concerned.

I for 1 welcome our Ircher overlord.

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Where is Smudger? He's disappeared.

VOTE: Icerint

He never DISAPPEARED.

He was just NEVER IN THE GAME.

Despite being the TALK OF THE TOWN.

But I have no idea what to make of it.

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So, Iec, who are the scum?

FireAssassin or Gorkilord, likely not both.

I think that's the only scum among the active players. I went back and forth on NotMafia as I read, pretty sure I ended up on town because of a particular post that I can't recall IIRC. That's the only other active player I significantly entertained whom I didn't mention I think.

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Also hi chamber!

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It could be! (Why not both? tte) But they're not in the set of active players.

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Radja had the silly part where he asked a super active on-the-record player (gorkilord) about his feelings about random players. That's the main thing that made me feel goofy about them.

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And ya, FA is pretty vapid

but is kinda dishonest about it.

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I don't want to end the day yet tho and I'm concerned that my vote + rhetoric will do that.

Unvote; Vote: ActionDan

Therefore, I will vote for ActionDaniel.

I am interested in what makes you say I am dishonest. Cause if anything I pride myself in my honesty sir. And you have insulted my integrity.

Because you make posts that that have WORDS, implying depth and content. But then it's vapid, so I feel cheated whenever I read the posts. :[

But you do have a kinda fun sense of style in your posts so at least they aren't boring to read.

But that's the meaning of "dishonest." Contrasted against someone who just openly makes pithy content, for example.

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It could be! (Why not both? tte) But they're not in the set of active players.

You are just swinging everywhere.....that makes me a little worried to be honest.
Why does it have to be in the active players? That seems very flimsy...

Because my post literally said "this is the active player that is scum."

He said "why did you not say titus/radja" and i said "well they are not active players so natch not in consideration."

I do not have a crystal ball that gives me insight into players who didn't make content.

I'm voting daniel because I don't think D1 needs to end yet because my heart is in the 120 page D1s of yesteryear.

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My slots first 2 posts are pretty terrible, why is there no traction on a wagon on me? Suspicious.

???

Those are your slot's only posts.

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You guys are very silly.

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Fire Assassin brings the truly compelling analysis.

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jk bb ilu

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I thought androgybee's slot was town when I read the game. I did vacillate like town->scum->town as I read through it tho so I at times thought scum. But I ended on town. But I vacillated so I didn't want to get excited about it. Also I didn't start posting as I read until farther along.

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The posts where he called Davsto town, explained clearly why it was the case, and refocused/emphasized it when people tried to discredit it (rather than just dropping it to keep the townpoints without cementing a town perspective on the slot).

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Nope ur wrong.

Gork is towny in opening. Your entrance involved an "ewwww" post which are seriously the most fucking stupid things I see on this site and I can't fucking stand them. Stop it. Stop it. You're not funny. You're not coy. You're not original. You're not even helpful. You're just being a fucking annoying whiney brat. Christ all fucking mighty please stop being so dumb.

You're wrong btw we're town and there was nothing even remotely scummy about posts you're trying to throw shade at so try again, freakin lamer. Or at the very least use your fucking words instead of being a total brat and just making disapproving noises.

~Nahdia

Like this posts emotions seem genuine, but I can see scum feeling that way just as easily as town.

For me it's more that there's no reason to point out how obvtownDavsto is if no one else has noticed yet, unless you think he thought it was SO OBVIOUS that SOMEONE would point it out and he wanted to get ahead of the free towncred.

I don't know the player so that kind of information might also color how it should be interpreted.

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I don't think that it's a scum plan to call Davsto town. That seems dumb. Securing accurate townreads just makes solving the game less complicated.

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(And I agree with the actual perspective enough that I think it was valid, so I don't think it's scum calling scum town either natch. Also don't think the doubledown feels like that.)

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I don't think that it's a scum plan to call Davsto town. That seems dumb. Securing accurate townreads just makes solving the game less complicated.

I didn't say it was smart scum play. It's something I can see myself having done when new though.

I mean anyone can be anything if you allow for all possible levels of competency.

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I don't think that it's a scum plan to call Davsto town. That seems dumb. Securing accurate townreads just makes solving the game less complicated.

But scum have to call a few players town.....they can't just doubt cast everyone or they will appear suspicious by doing so. Protecting one player also doesn't mean you can't change your read on them later.....
I myself am unsure of that slot in particular, but willing to not lynch that today based on their reactions to my posts.

There's a difference between saying "Davsto is a pretty town dude Davsto vote 4 me" and saying "Davsto is incontrovertibly town due to XYZ barring scumBrilliance or a nightmarish accident."

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I don't think that it's a scum plan to call Davsto town. That seems dumb. Securing accurate townreads just makes solving the game less complicated.

I didn't say it was smart scum play. It's something I can see myself having done when new though.

I mean anyone can be anything if you allow for all possible levels of competency.

Not really, no? This is weird hand wavy crap. Is it you?

I think imagining that someone did something contrary to their wincon because of low competence should only be entertained when it's absolutely necessary for other things to make sense.

I think it's impossible to get a handle on the game otherwise.

That's where I'm coming from me.

From my POV, your idea that it's a dumb scum slot is itself handwavy because it ignores that pointing out secure townreads is a pro-town thing. (That is, that's the very point of the thing that you criticized as hand-wavy )

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Don't like Iecerint's entrance, but it gets better with 372 and 385 and 388.

Could you clarify what you didn't like and how it got better?

@Iecerint's, so you think Gorke's probably scum from the active players, and that makes you think Fire is scummy b/c he's Gorke's wagon? Is that it?

Fire is just really vapid. Sometimes that can happen if someone doesn't know how to fabricate content when they are scum.

I actually didn't realize that Gorke was an architect of the Fire wagon until after I noticed that Fire was kinda vapid and checked out his wagon status as I was reading. I had already independently found Gorke uncomfortable, mainly because it seemed like he was discrediting town players (scummy for the same reason I thought androgyne was town).

I doubt they're both scum. At least one of them is town probably.

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I just think you might be scum because you spent some time casting dispersions on ppl who're probably town

as someone whose opinion you can definitely trust on the matter, i think i would have indulged myself less as scum there.
could understand this a little more if i was just attacking anyone who calls me scummy, but i feel like ive just been really prickly to people who have been calling me bad at the game. which is probably something i just need to start accepting is going to happen if im going to play the way i do.
zzz.

It's like 95% Ircher.

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Can you point to his most vapid in practice but superficially not post?

Probably, but I've occasionally made little posts that mock him that he has reposted on his own, so examples should not be hard to find. Earlier ones had more words though.

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The sequence of events was:

1. Thinking Gorke is scummy
2. Thinking Fire is scummy
3. Assessing Fire's wagon upon learning it exists
4. Realizing that Gorke did the Fire wagon

The only town read the Gorke stuff came from was Ircher, as noted above.

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In super town guys.

/drunk post

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I think it's my first time with that wa two words



It's a sign.

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Catchup may not actually occur until tomorrow. Apologies in advance.

come be town already!!!!
i need someone to condense with and iece is slightly intimidating.
:c

:c

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Hey IEC, why no comments for me?

Uh. Does this mean for Titus? Maybe cuz Radja is signing his?

You guys are kinda a non-entity for me so far other than that I noticed some posts that Radja signed. Probably leaning scum for your slot tbh but Radja is my secret MS crush, so I'm trying my best to overlook it.

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I don't know how wrong town can be in a game

this strat.
you probably want to stop it.
insulting was probably the wrong word, but painting me as a caricature is unacceptable in my books >:o

Well, I know you are wrong about me. I don't know about the rest of reads, maybe you are more right than wrong and I am the one in the dark here.
I don't consider calling someone wrong to be a insult or caricature.

I mean he agrees with you about Titus/Radja.

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Honestly Fire Assassin not noticing the shared space makes me think he's town though.

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I think Maruchan is town, too. I only know Maru from GD, though.

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Literally nobody has made any positive or negative comments on the mini-case i built on ircher. wtf. Did nobody else think he was scummy for that bullshit and/or have good reason to dispute why it makes him scummy to convince me of his townieness?

Good reason 2 dispute = Ircher is Davsto.

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You should know I like to check how my townreads are reading players I feel weird about.
Xkfyu wasn't a random player, he is someone I have an odd feeling about.

It read like "pls produce anti-Xkfyewkf content." I thought I remembered you listing 2 ppl tho which made it more like that but maybe I'm misremembering.

It would be sketchy if a major game topic were my alignment and I hadn't posted, ya, probably (to make the Smudger analogy clearer).

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I am so cross with Daniel.

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If you're lurking, I'd hate to know what Daniel is doing.

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Also I had totally forgotten that Daniel said that first.

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Unvote; Vote: Minsc and Boo

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Why were you scumreading me and why have you unvoted me?

I wasn't and it's because I wasn't. I wanted Danny to play the game and didn't want to vote the lead wagon at the time (don't recall who that was tbh tho I do remember thinking they were an okay vote oddly enough).

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V/LA through Sunday.

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Vote: Minsc and Boo

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why so much close-to-the-chest shit lately?

That's an oddly specific interpretation.

1. I don't care about this game as much as I might otherwise because dan flaked out of it.

2. Separately, this weekend I was V/LA because my little brother got married.

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i think its pretty fair to say that its been a bit of a transition for you to have gone from being one of the most active voices

Not really. I made basically all of my posts in a 2 hour period AFAICR.

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it was a good burst of posting?
:/

thx b

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but if im our great white hope, we're in trouble. ^_~

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Your interpretation only really makes sense if Ircher is scum with Titus anyway, right? Since there's no reason to show a bias like that if both are town, and we know the flipped player was town.

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Your interpretation only really makes sense if Ircher is scum with Titus anyway, right? Since there's no reason to show a bias like that if both are town, and we know the flipped player was town.

@Maru

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@Iece, I'm not interpreting anything. I am literally showing a chronological analysis of ircher's "reads" on a SINGLE playerslot, that are flipflopping more than a dying fish. I didn't interpret them in any which way. I just pointed it out, so that it was blatantly obvious to everyone else.


I don't do team-hunting. Nothing of ircher's play only makes him look scummy IF someone else is also scum. Ircher is independantly scummy on his own.

You are saying "Ircher did weird stuff; ergo he is scum."

I agree with you that you can read the read changes and think "That is weird stuff."

However, consider WHY Ircher would do what he did if both slots were town.

It would make LESS sense, right? Even though it's weird regardless.

Let me know if I am wrong about this by explaining it to me.

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Holy shit guys, let me be relevant and let Titus say things first!

I didn't think Minsc was scum yesterday and nothing has yet changed that. So I still don't support this.

Remind me why.

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Holy shit guys, let me be relevant and let Titus say things first!

I didn't think Minsc was scum yesterday and nothing has yet changed that. So I still don't support this.

Remind me why.

Why what?
Why we should let Titus say things? Because that's just proper.

Why they are likely town?
Allow me to do so with my posts tonight. I can't make a full case when on mobile at work.

Why you think she is town (e.g., if you already posted it and I didn't read it).

Whenever is chill.

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I support order over chaos this month, so I am opposed to quicklynches.

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I am catching up. On 52.

I think andro looked extraordinarily awkward in the back-and-forth with RC on page 49. It is weird that that led to my being run up (???).

I stopped to post because andro not hammering me when she could is the first thing that makes me not be relatively settled on voting her, but I mean. That surely would've been outrageously opportunistic even for this game. So eh.

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The IEC wagon that formed up was reasonless.
IEC and I being wagoned by the same players suggests Iec and I have the same alignment.

This sounds reasonable.

I was actually really surprised that Titus suddenly townread me before this piece of information, though.

Aristophanes's case on me looked heavy on confBias and I could see it being from town as easily as scum tho.

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I'm townreading Titus for the record.

I'm not scumreading Androgybee necessarily I voted them because they kept posting when I was trying to post.

UNVOTE:

lol

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The IEC wagon that formed up was reasonless.
IEC and I being wagoned by the same players suggests Iec and I have the same alignment.

Ircher following RC like a puppy and others too. Yet, your wagon didn't take.

So you think Ircher is voting like scum but you are wagoning me because?????

Why me? Fry me.

I felt as though the Ranger flip incriminated you.

*eyeroll* Total bullshit adhoc.

This is literally the same argument people made for the wagon on me IIRC. Seems strange.

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an iece wagon is scary because i would be scared of losing townIece, but i also feel like ive been making that excuse in my head all game for iece since mid-D1 which is gahhhhhh.

Do I know you? Are you an alt? You're not familiar to me and I've barely played since 2014.

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confbias is boring.
if youre town or scum youre not convincing anyone of anything with it.

???

I mean it's obviously a critical way to express a read someone makes.

ConfBias is something that only town can do due to its definition. The challenge is separating it from manufactured cases, cuz they can also be kinda selective and hamfisted.

My point was that Titus posted "ppl on Iec and I => Iec and I share alignment," and I was adding that Aristophanes's votes for us don't contribute to him being scum IMO (whereas the shared voting might generally point to that otherwise).

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Idk, I think it took me a few in-game days to get into the Team Mafia game, too.

And I had Wisdom spamming the thread after he replaced in and some other players I already knew to bounce ideas off of.

I just know Titus here.

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i mean i can also really easily buy iece/androgy scummates right now.

This is an extremely valid interpretation of what has transpired up to this point FWIW (but I'm not scum with her natch). But this is what I would speculate given andro's failure to hammer if I were in your shoes I think.

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rc figured out the context in like a second.
if you and nahdia both didnt and youre town im going to gjhfkfdhgkjhfdgkjhfkgjhdfkfdkjghkjdfghkjdfghkjfdhgoiergopiemg.

FWIW I have still not figured it out.

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I got a message last night with a song that was titled Mincs and Boo.

Minsc and Boo is not a song, unless it's really ridiculously obscure.

Minsc and Boo are characters from Baldur's Gate.

... XDXDXDXDXDXDXD

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Minsc and Boo are you guys really VT.
>.>
~Bee

i see what youre saying androgy.
but its not what you think.

Ok Gork.
Who should we be voting because I am just wasting space while I wait for Nahdia.

~Bee

Like you clearly knew that he was claiming it.
yet you're pretending not to know now?
that's fishy as fuck.

and the interactions between you and Gork are terrible rn.

Oh dear.

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It would be cool if someone would summarize the claims up to this point if someone has em handy.

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OK. At first beeboy said he wanted to check Titus (M&B), but I said no because I didn't think she's claim VT as a mafia power role. beeboy said she would but I ended up saying we should go elsewhere anyway, I asked if he'd read the game and said I didn't really wanna check them. I suggested Iecerint, beeboy suggested Ranger "out of fear". i let them pick because i really didn't feel strongly either way and he said go with ranger and I did.

...But don't you kinda want to target the goon, anyway?

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This 'out of fear' thing coming from both heads is so overexplainy.

LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH.

Agree.

Unless out of fear is a meme or something.

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Paranoia in my head is that Titus is the mafiaGod and instructed Gorkinger to flatter me.

But I think Gork is town. And I don't think scumTitus had much to gain for calling me town when she did (other than a gamble that I would townread her...but I've been super inactive, so seems like a dumb thing to put points into).

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You know me from Elsa and Anna

Yeah, but you replaced in. I've played with normal RC several times, too.

And I was bummed that Dan flaked out.

W/e.

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The Titus paranoia read is in part because I definitely thought Radja was scum D1, and IIRC there was something about the D1 wagon that was still sketchy with them. (They ewre the other wagon? Idr.)

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im more saying that in general, rc and andro's confbias is boring here.
even thinking that andro's is fake.
its still boring.

p-edit: fair, i do respect your play as a whole though and if youre town i would be excited to condense with you.

Andro's does look fake to me too.

RC's coincided with andro saying weird stuff, so it looked legit, but he apparently was just fucking around, so I guess it was a coincidence.

My point was that Titus's statement implied Titus thought Aristophanes's was scummy, but I was specifying that it was null/boring (if that's what you mean by boring).

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RC literally clips posts from his towngame so saying this is his townmeta is kinda silly. His push on me is really thickheaded and bad and in particular the parts where he insists i'm obvious scum are actually straight from his scummeta, as I've pointed out.

As for Titus, I haven't actually said much on them besides the fact that she seems like she really doesn't want to interact directly with me. like she knows she doesn't want to touch the townie who is about to flip and possibly incriminate herself either more. it's awkward. i don't have much of a meta on titus but i'd hope as town she'd freaking interact with the people she's lynching because ignoring them is really only motivated by scum wincon.

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RC has no special incentive to push you. There have been 2 other legit wagons today (Titus, Iec). So hard-pushing you looks town to me, because he had at least 1 other reasonable option unless you're saying Titus-Iec-RC is the team.

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OK. At first beeboy said he wanted to check Titus (M&B), but I said no because I didn't think she's claim VT as a mafia power role. beeboy said she would but I ended up saying we should go elsewhere anyway, I asked if he'd read the game and said I didn't really wanna check them. I suggested Iecerint, beeboy suggested Ranger "out of fear". i let them pick because i really didn't feel strongly either way and he said go with ranger and I did.

...But don't you kinda want to target the goon, anyway?

No? With M&B so heavily targetting, I'd figure she'd have someone else do the kill just in case there was a tracker.

Ah, OK, that makes sense.

My logic was "Goon does kill; PR does PR."

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I still don't see how out of fear is an over explanation. It is literally the explanation beeboy said when he said he wanted to track ranger. how is that an overexplanation??

Like what does it even mean.

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Uhm.

What?

I'm posting without reviewing, so it could be that my confusion can be cleared up by your pointing out why I am saying a silly thing.

If this is at me instead of their schizophrenic warbling.

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I still don't see how out of fear is an over explanation. It is literally the explanation beeboy said when he said he wanted to track ranger. how is that an overexplanation??

Like what does it even mean.

it means what im saying it means. you do realize this is a hydra, right?

...Ranger was scary?!

What were you afraid of? What did that have to do with Ranger?

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im gonna go to bed.
dont lynch people while im asleep.

x2

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Did anything happen in the last 6 pages?

If not I'll vote em.

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Vote: androgybee

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Iecerint, why didn't you address me instead in terms of, "please consider that they both may be town, and then Ircher's actions wouldn't be weird at all"? I pushed this before Maru did. Like really heavily. It feels like you were trying to find the easier person to talk to. You still maintain a no stance here.

1. I have no recollection or didn't notice. If "heavily" means you made a post with lots of quote boxes and lines, I probably don't recall because I didn't read it.

2. The reason I piped up with Maru in particular is that I think Maru is town. I'm not sure that you're town, so I probably wouldn't bother in your case, especially if I suspect your follow-up post will be obnoxious to read.

If I think someone is town and can understand the game better by being taken through some steps, I do it with them.

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At this point I can vote for you without putting you at L-1, so I did so. That's the only reason I didn't last time. I said as much in my post.

I don't want to lynch Titus.

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Wouldn't you want to engage the person who don't think is town though?

Your point is you want to engage the person you can get through, but its coming off as you wanting to avoid conflict.

You were willing to read Maru's posts on Ircher (knowing that Maru makes walls for posts) but you ignored mine which came before Maru's. And it wasn't one, it was at least three posts, so finding it kinda hard to believe.

I get interested in the game by finding common ground with people with whom I have mutual town reads.

I know Maru from GD, and he posts in this game exactly the same way that he posts in GD. They can be long, but they're not hard to read. Short sentences, simple words, lots of exclamatory phrases.

Your posts are like reading Tierce posts or something. I'll do it when I have to if we both live that long.

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iece.
if i meta dive you.
do you think i'll think youre town?

I doubt it would be conclusive/fruitful as I don't have many recent games.

I probably have some lurky games as town in the somewhat recent past I guess.

I can't even remember my last scum game.

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I don't think I've been scum since at least 2014.

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like, youre calling andro scum, but also simultaneously justifying their lynch because of info.
like.
i dont care about info.
info comes from any lynch.
moreso, info comes from pushing lynches.
an iece push with any significant backbone will give information.
there are people resistant to the wagon.
slow to jump on.
people ignoring it.

plenty of information.
super questionable that youre ignoring it just because of an apparent lack of information, especially since ari posted a case.

Good, my town feels are coming back.

Huh? They left?

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why is iece not a good infolynch.
i dont get it.

:drunkposts: btw

Currently waiting for my boyfriend's wife to sober up

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@Ari, she didn't sober up and I had to abandon her.

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AB is still scum. Iecerint may be scum but the voting patterns suggest otherwise.

also, literally the only scummy person on said wagon is andro.

Eh. Roshar could be scum if andro flips scum. Though I wouldn't push her otherwise.

NM I put in the same box as Maru.

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But less sure of townieness I guess.

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I could lynch Iec if I had to. I feel really frustrated by seeing all the Ircher is town when he's outright admitting he's scummy. I'm not sure Iec is town but I really want Ircher lynched. Iec asking only about when I doubted Gork is just :/ out of everything that happened, that's the only thing he commented on is my brief doubting of Gork in my head when he was going at RC?

wat

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There's too much of "when AB flips town" talk and zero talk of them flipping scum. It's a nagging flag that says AB is town and that people are justifying the wagon rather than AB actually being scum.

Who's saying that?

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Titus, when did you decide that andro was town?

IIRC you only voted away from andro because you were frustrated with players not voting for andro (which I took as you wanting to explore stuff before lynching andro).

It is also weird to me that the trend of "players vote Titus and Iec" has continued since you mentioned it earlier (with Roshar), but that's coincided with you finding me scummy.

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@Ice
There is a case against you, you know?

Cases are bullshit. The point of cases is that they can give insight into how a person is thinking about the game.

Titus mad a IecTown case at a time when it was inessential to her earlier today. Nothing has changed since that time AFAIK.

If you're saying that Titus made or explicitly endorsed a case at some point after that and I missed it, ya that would help me interpret what's up. But otherwise, nah.

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lol.

i came here and asked this dude i'm seeing: "do you think i am dead yet y/n"

he said "i don't know how mafia works. do you die if you're not there?"

and i said "no but probably."

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Gosh, and 6 days to deadline and stuff.

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I'll admit I was surprised at learning I was a VT.

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