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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Fri May 20, 2016 2:49 pm

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To be fair, this isn't the kind of genre where one-unit runs are interesting to start with <.<
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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Sat May 21, 2016 3:10 am

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I thought birthright was plenty hard and had the more interesting characters, beside carmella or w/e oppai dragon ladies name is
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Sat May 21, 2016 12:16 pm

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I still need to buy conquest OOPS

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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2016 12:32 am

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Really enjoying birthright so far, characters are great.
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2016 1:06 am

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I took a gamble to think that one site would have the special edition after.

Needless to say that I should not do that ever again, I'm going to cry now and just buy the regular version and the DLC because ehh, I bought the amiibos I wanted for it. I look forward to playing this so much and hopefully not being disappointed.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2016 3:13 pm

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In post 29, Hanasawa wrote:I took a gamble to think that one site would have the special edition after.
You're PAL, right? I heard that sold out in a few hours.
I still need to buy conquest OOPS

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Really enjoying birthright so far, characters are great.
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2016 5:48 pm

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I didn't hate rinkah. She was fine. I like big brother birthright and little sister birthright better. Oppai Dragon Sister is better than Hinoka. Both little brother were unappealing. I haven't played much conquest though. Setsuna and Asugi are really great. Kaden is better than wolf man.
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Sun May 22, 2016 7:52 pm

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Birthright has better gays but Nohr has more interesting characters and Peri.

I wanna go hide in a hole with Setsuna then sleep on Rinkah's squishy fake abs.

Except not really because I wouldn't cheat on Peri.

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Favourites so far are Setsuna, Kaze and Subuki.
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 2:59 pm

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I BOUGHT CONQUEST camilla is gonna be my wife and i love her so much

also takumi is a fucking asshat, and i love it when i get to murder him repeatedly chapter after chapter. I hate the hinoka fights though, i always feel kinda bad
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Takumi is a fucking asshat, and i love it when i get to murder him repeatedly chapter after chapter.
Tacomeat is great though. He's a much better character in this game than he is in Birthright.
(Plus I love how Fates not only has the guts to make a Sniper a boss, but makes that Sniper one of the most tactically interesting bosses in the series.)
In post 34, Heat wrote:I hate the hinoka fights though, i always feel kinda bad
Oh the Hinoka fights do make you feel bad, but not necessarily for sentimental reasons. :?
I think Hinoka round 2 is the hardest boss in Conquest.


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Also I'm near the end of Conquest Lunatic and, um, I can see why the people who tried playing this blind have an unrelenting hatred for this game. As for my part, I think I'm just going to go ahead and get it over with. Siegbert's paralogue gives me Advance Wars 1 Advance Campaign flashbacks; it might be one of the most legitimately difficult levels in the series. Eight hours later I'm going to say I tried so hard and got so far, and in the end the kid doesn't even matter. (He's worse than my Percy statwise and comes at a higher level; why am I doing this to myself)
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In post 35, Vi wrote:Also I'm near the end of Conquest Lunatic and, um, I can see why the people who tried playing this blind have an unrelenting hatred for this game. As for my part, I think I'm just going to go ahead and get it over with. Siegbert's paralogue gives me Advance Wars 1 Advance Campaign flashbacks; it might be one of the most legitimately difficult levels in the series. Eight hours later I'm going to say I tried so hard and got so far, and in the end the kid doesn't even matter. (He's worse than my Percy statwise and comes at a higher level; why am I doing this to myself)
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Spoiler: The final score:
*Nohr Noble Kana (via Elise): Could block two enemies in Chapter 26. Three could hit her.
*Paladin Corrin - +Str -Def. Spent basically all of the fracas hiding so he couldn't be dragged down by Enfeeble. 26 damage on the final boss was pretty cool and he dealt the first and last hit, although I couldn't get him to double.
*Paladin Siegbert - Originally supposed to fill in for Kana, but turned out better since he was a 9-move ferrybot. Got two crucial kills out of him, one being the Hexing Rod luser.
*Berserker Percy (via Effie) - Arthur without the downsides is so good. Did a fair amount of heavy lifting in the middle of the map, and also doubled as Arthur's shield.
*Sorcerer Ophelia (via Felicia) - The only survivor of the massacre at the end, because Vantage + forged Mjolnir + Vengeance. Even if you don't go full Numbers Emblem on her, as long as she inherits Vantage she's kind of ridiculous.
*Onmyoji Izana - Hid behind Ophelia the whole time. He had Enfeeble and Heal but he found a better use.
*Strategist Felicia - Failed to dodge two Silver Shirukens at 33% (Shirukenbreaker + Gate - Enfeeble) on Turn 3. She had all four breakers, but the last bit of the map is full of lances so I don't know what else she could have done had she lived. Held Enfeeble.
*Wyvern Lord Camilla - Got Enfeebled, and then blown up by a Malig Knight on like Turn 4. The original wielder of the Brave Axe, and I burned my only charge of Rescue getting her back after having her knock out the nearest Maid on Turn 1.
*Wyvern Lord Beruka - Filler + Rally Defense person. Got destroyed as a decoy on Turn 5.
*Songstress Azura - Actually got a kill supporting Odin while he did 0 damage to something. Got destroyed as a decoy on Turn 5.
*Sorcerer Odin - I think he actually got one kill on this map, not including the one where Azura helped. Got destroyed as a decoy on Turn 5.
*Maid Flora - Entrap + Freeze duty. Got destroyed as a decoy on Turn 5.
*Strategist Elise - Awful Skill meant that she was better off using Freeze. Got destroyed as a decoy on Turn 6 (thanks Arthur).
*Paladin Xander - Somehow didn't get Enfeebled much over the course of the battle, but he couldn't do much to the final boss, so he got killed by a rogue Bow Knight on Turn 6.
*Paladin Silas - Xander's pair-up. Didn't have a chance once Xander fell. Gave the final boss half their health back because of Lifetaker on Turn 6, which was really not what I needed.
*Adventurer Anna - Because Shining Bow at 33 Mag, plus no one cared enough about her to Enfeeble her. Died removing the final boss's Dual Guard on Player Phase 7.
*Berserker Arthur - Could have ended the battle on Turn 6 if he had connected with two of the three Brave Axe hits on the final boss (61% Hit, 29% crit). Instead he got one, and died getting countered after hitting hard with Berserker's Axe on Player Phase 7.

Izana - 0/0 - base level
Azura - 4/1 - ended at Lv. 30
Siegbert - 8/7 - Fifth to hit level cap
Flora - 42/22 - ended at Lv. 9
Kana - 47/28 - was at like Lv. 14 or something
Percy - 59/36 - ended at Lv. 19
Anna - 81/51 - ended at Lv. 14 or so
Ophelia - 89/58 - Fourth to hit level cap
Beruka - 114/60 - ended at Lv. 13
Camilla - 144/78 - ended at Lv. 19
Elise - 151/89 - ended at Lv. 17
Silas - 160/92 - ended at Lv. 15
Arthur - 200/102 - ended at Lv. 19
Xander - 205/102 - Third to hit level cap
Felicia - 230/146 - First to hit level cap
Corrin - 266/149 - Second to hit level cap
Odin - 293/131 - ended at Lv. 15
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:25 am

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Bumping this thread like I own this site.
In post 83, Andrius wrote:
In post 82, Vi wrote:Fates in particular probably has the best game mechanics in the series.
I know the Official Fire Emblem thread is dead (my GTKAS) but I'd love to hear your reasoning to this.
If the answer is 'Conquest', I'll just take you on your word as that's the only story I haven't played and have no intentions on doing so.
I've basically heard Conquest is the only challenging game mode if and of itself, but there are other things that just turn me off to Conquest.
Even aside Conquest, the Skill system is rad, the stances make gameplay fun if you're not playing Backpack Emblem, and Heart Seals are fun to play around with. There are absolutely flaws with it (ninjas suck in every game for one reason or another) but I think in the end it probably noses out the Tellius games simply because units don't have to be confined to one role (and plus I feel like the Tellius games wasted potential in some fronts).

Also if you like every other game in the series and you didn't like BR/Rev you'd probably like Conquest quite a bit? You don't have to play it on the highest difficulty; that stuff gets unreasonable near endgame and CQ Hard is more engaging than the other two routes by a wide margin.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:35 am

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It's always exciting learning someone else has played through Thracia 776. (Andrius mentioned playing it)
I'm starting my first playthrough of Path of Radiance soon. The game boy games and SNES games are some of the defining games in my childhood. But for some reason I never played PoR or RD until now. I might try the 3DS ones.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:39 am

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The best way to play these games are ironman runs. No restarts if characters die. The earlier games were actually designed to be played like that.
I think in an interview I read the producers started realizing people always restarted when a character died and begun to adjust the gameplay around fire emblem 6.
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:42 am

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I tried getting through Thracia but Manster really, really, sucks and by the time I got to the level after the gaiden after Carrion shows up I was completely out of fs to give about any of it. It's a shame because I really like the Capture mechanic.

The Tellius games are my favorites by a huge margin! (to such an extent that I ran two Mafia games in that setting <.<) IMO Path of Radiance is a lot more interesting if you don't use bonus experience, so yeah.

Awakening is okay. Fates Conquest is super-cool IMO, and you can decide whether you want to dump $40 more on it (knowing you've seen the best of it) afterward.
I think in an interview I read the producers started realizing people always restarted when a character died and begun to adjust the gameplay around fire emblem 6.
I'm pretty sure anyone who tries to no-reset FE5 is out of their mind. Fates is also really, really not designed for this. But the rest, yeah, it's pretty hard to get into a truly unwinnable situation.
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:46 am

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I dont know bout Backpack Emblem but I live No HP Growth Emblem.

I like skills. I like Heart Seals, as Second Seals were too broken. Ninjas are fast but no ninja has a decent enough strength growth to actually be useful. I feel like there are fewer actually good classes, even if Snipers are back to their RD-era level of absolute amazingness.


I mean, I like every game in the series for what it is but I definitely have favorites (4, 9/10, 13). Id like the difficulty of Conquest but I have no story/flavor reason to take that route. There is no reason for me to play Conquest other than difficulty. Also they kill Scarlet in Conquest which is unacceptable.
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 8:49 am

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In post 38, Fluminator wrote:It's always exciting learning someone else has played through Thracia 776. (Andrius mentioned playing it)
I'm starting my first playthrough of Path of Radiance soon. The game boy games and SNES games are some of the defining games in my childhood. But for some reason I never played PoR or RD until now. I might try the 3DS ones.
I, uh, started but never finished Thracia 776. Also hi Flum! <3

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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:00 am

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Hey! Good to see you again.
Also really you guys. I might have to post a let's play of Thracia so you guys can appreciate the game fully.
A lot of people I know say the manster section is brutal (and the rest of the game being good) but I honestly loved that section too.
I'm really looking forward to 9 and 10. I finally have time over Christmas break to play through them. I'll probably post my thoughts on it.
Genealogy is probably my favorite too. Gameplay wise it's kind of broken but the story makes up for it. I used to have a bunch of fan fics written for it.

My other favorite is Sacred Stones. I recognize all the flaws and understand why some people don't like it but I love that one. I appreciate the game more everytime I play it.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:07 am

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In post 41, Andrius wrote:Ninjas are fast but no ninja has a decent enough strength growth to actually be useful. I feel like there are fewer actually good classes, even if Snipers are back to their RD-era level of absolute amazingness.
Saizo and Kagero are wondering wtf you're going on about. Kagero in particular stands out because her personal Str growth is 65%(!!). Also enemy Ninjas are total bollocks.

Conquest also has the best music if that helps. And ODIN DARK. I think you'd appreciate him even if he's kind of rubbish as a unit.

FE4 is a load of fun the first time and I adore the Game of Thrones plot in the first gen and how it tries to troll you in increasingly ludicrous ways in Gen 2, but it's so slow that I don't think I'd play it again.

FE8 is... well, it is. It was my first FE, and I liked it then, but had I played FE7 first I wouldn't have cared much for it. It felt really unmemorable, and I think a lot of that had to do with the monsters and the rushed pace of the plot. Ephraim and Innes were cool, though.
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I think that Radiant Dawn has by far the best music, followed by Awakening. Conquest didn't really compare to either of those IMO.
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I'd put Path of Radiance over Radiant Dawn without a second thought; A Grasping Truth isn't going to make up for all the short-looping songs and the dull stuff like the dark level theme. I'll have to get back to you on Fates vs. Awakening, since both of them had sweet standout songs (Prelude, Divine Decree, Chaos, map theme, ...., "Run All You Like" vs. Road Taken, Dusk Falls, No Justice, Past Below, Alight, A Dark Fall, Glory/Ruin). I think Fates wins slightly on those, but nothing in Fates beats Don't Speak Her Name!.
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:21 am

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I never use Saizo. Mainly because his child is Gaius and I dislike the redone child characters. Kaze has no strength and my Kagero always turns out bad. Always. Luckily she makes a good wife for Ryoma becausr I have no idea what to do with him. shrug Enemy Ninjas are indeed the worst.

I actually dislike Odin. The only time I liked him was his S Support with Nah because shes like treat me like a woman not like a child. I have a hard time finding male characters I like in the recent games. :/

At least Laslow has Peri for best support of heartwarming.

FE 4 can be super slow. I liked it for the first generation; the second generation had the terrible desert map which was almost unbearable though Shanan was amazing. I got to the last chapter but never finished it.

Freaking Lex can't father a son who uses axes game whyyyyy I mean Shaskar is good son but not axeworthy. And, I mean, Lachke is best.

FE 8 was good but unmemorable.

Radiant Dawn had some great music (The Devoted, Ascension or whatever the tower battle theme was)
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:23 am

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Dont Speak Her Name is best song.
Divine Decree is great.

I love Justice RIP and Past Below. Past Below so great.
Conquest got better music over Birthright, but I still cant stomach that storyline and the fact that I have to use units I dont care about. And, again, killing Scarlet would break my poor heart.
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Sat Dec 24, 2016 9:26 am

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I know weve been over this before Vi years ago but if I dont like a character they wont be used. So Odin gets benched. Bastian is mediocre but he's always in my final team because BASTIAN. And blessing the long-range tomes in the tower makes dragons a cakewalk.
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