Mafia 71: The Corsican Syndicate - Game over!

[curiouskarmadog]

holding grudge

vote Battle Mage

[curiouskarmadog]

holding grudge

vote Battle Mage

results on another game are in,

unvote BM

I guess in the big scheme of things we are even...

silly vote: 50 pounds of bread

..that is just too much bread.

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Vote: 50 pounds of bread

Should be 23kg of bread.

you would like that wouldnt you?

unvote 50
vote Lazy

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Waar, truth or dare?

50 so help me god don't start that shit.

start what?...

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Vote: CKD

MY NAME IS INIGO MONTOYA, YOU KILLED MY FATHER, PREPARE TO DIE.

you again, dont you have some game to replace into or some innocent townie to lynch?

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Vote: CKD

bandwagon much?

now that just hurts BM...

I placed a second vote on Lazy...you place the second vote on me...you say I am bandwagoning...

I say you are (fill in the blank), the circle begins a new?

are we going to start bumping heads again?

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LOL..ahh BM, you are so cute for a he/she...that reminds me, have you explained the gender shift yet?

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ugh, remeber you mentioned it somewhere I read...guess if I really care that much I can meta..was just hoping you would save me the time

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lol, BM, see what you have caused?

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lol, BM, see what you have caused?

And now you're trying to downplay your scum slip from before by pretending it's nothing. Just keep digging your own grave buddy.

ok I will bite,

how did I over react, by asking questions?

I will even humor you further, if I did overreact, how does that =scum?

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lol, BM, see what you have caused?

And now you're trying to downplay your scum slip from before by pretending it's nothing. Just keep digging your own grave buddy.

ok I will bite,

how did I over react, by asking questions?

I will even humor you further, if I did overreact, how does that =scum?

Townies should be stoic and logical. Emotions are scummy.

I am not sure how one posts and answer to a question without anwsering a question...not to mention answering a question that wasnt even directed to you...but now I will direct it to you.

50, how did I over react?

and when someone asks how over reaction=scum the answer is not, emotion = scummy.

why are emotions scummy?

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Okay halfway to a lynch is hardly a big deal, you still need a whole nother 5 votes for the lynch.

I will even humor you further, if I did overreact, how does that =scum?

A townie would react calm. Your reply to his jokevote gave me the impression that you were nervous about something. Nervousness is often-times a sign of guilt.

I never said I was half way anywhere.

still confused here, how did I over react?

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I never said I was half way anywhere.

That wasn't directed towards you, it was directed towards WomensRights

still confused here, how did I over react?

The first post I quoted when I voted for you is where you over reacted

now we are getting somewhere.

Okay halfway to a lynch is hardly a big deal, you still need a whole nother 5 votes for the lynch.

Who is "you" in that sentence which was directed toward Womensright?

still not answering the question...please example to me HOW I over reacted. Quoting my reply doesnt explain HOW I over reactted..

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still not answering the question...please example to me HOW I over reacted. Quoting my reply doesnt explain HOW I over reactted..

Okay this is the post I was talking about:

Vote: CKD

bandwagon much?

now that just hurts BM...

I placed a second vote on Lazy...you place the second vote on me...you say I am bandwagoning...

I say you are (fill in the blank), the circle begins a new?

are we going to start bumping heads again?

You replied to an obvious joke with a very serious reply, pointing out to Battle Mage exactly why his reasoning sucked, while at the same time also explaining his joke. You were very quick to get defensive about something that was meant to be taken in jest. Thus, you are over reacting.

LOL, My very serious reply was "now that just hurts BM?", "the circle begins a new" and "are we going to start bumping heads again?"

that was serious?..and from that post you got that I was nervious and I felt guilty?

How far are you willingly to push and back this vote?

Also, I never said his reasoning sucked? Did you think it sucked?

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I never said his reasoning sucked? Did you think it sucked?

Yes you did:

I placed a second vote on Lazy...you place the second vote on me...you say I am bandwagoning...

where? if I get anything from that, I was calling him a hypocrite..

again, did you think it sucked?

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also, please quit avoiding questions..

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where? if I get anything from that, I was calling him a hypocrite..

Ugh why argue semantics? The quote I posted was one where you explained why you didn't agree with his argument. Hence, why you thought it sucked.

again, did you think it sucked?

If I thought it was a serious argument then yes I would agree that placing a vote on someone because they placed a 2nd vote on somebody else in a 19 player game is a shitty argument. However he was joking.

because you are putting words in my mouth that I didnt say.

You are also indicating that I over reacted, but fail explain how I over reacted...you think BM was "joking" (with a vote) yet I was "serious" (with a non vote question post) and over reactted..

unvote vote waar

you have yet to explain to me how my post was an over reaction or serious (when it was obviously a joke)...you are willingly to keep backing and aggressively pushing this vote, when you are obviously in the wrong...

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You are also indicating that I over reacted, but fail explain how I over reacted...you think BM was "joking" (with a vote) yet I was "serious" (with a non vote question post) and over reactted..

I explained:

You replied to an obvious joke with a very serious reply, pointing out to Battle Mage exactly why his reasoning sucked, while at the same time also explaining his joke. You were very quick to get defensive about something that was meant to be taken in jest. Thus, you are over reacting.

for the love of God, how was it an over reaction?

I said..

"now that just hurts BM..." (you are telling me this was serious?)

I placed a second vote on Lazy...you place the second vote on me...you say I am bandwagoning...I say you are (fill in the blank), the circle begins a new? (you are telling me this is serious?)

are we going to start bumping heads again?(you are telling me this is serious?)

Where is the over reaction in this post? You said that I thought BM's reasoning sucked and you agreed it sucked. You see my interaction with you? This is serious...you see a difference?

My vote on him is not an OMGUS vote. I gave him plenty of time to say "hey, maybe it is a misunderstanding"..or "my joke on you was mostly random"..or even a "I am just trying to start conversation"

but he wont back down..he wants to push a vote on someone because of an over reaction that wasnt even there.

Now he is saying I am being overly defensive....NO, I am being offensive

When I see something scummy, I jump on it. When someone votes me (passed the random stage) for a crappy reason and refuses to admit they might be wrong...I jump on it.

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The part where you said:

I placed a second vote on Lazy...you place the second vote on me...you say I am bandwagoning

Also, you're not using ellipses correctly. You can't use them to indicate a pause.

I cant? LOL..must mean I am scum.

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no, I wouldnt have voted him if he would have done those things. But the fact he wants to push a vote with absolutely no case is scummy..thus my vote.

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I cant? LOL..must mean I am scum.

No, just an idiot.

nice.

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You are also indicating that I over reacted, but fail explain how I over reacted...you think BM was "joking" (with a vote) yet I was "serious" (with a non vote question post) and over reactted..

I explained:

You replied to an obvious joke with a very serious reply, pointing out to Battle Mage exactly why his reasoning sucked, while at the same time also explaining his joke. You were very quick to get defensive about something that was meant to be taken in jest. Thus, you are over reacting.

for the love of God, how was it an over reaction?

I said..

"now that just hurts BM..." (you are telling me this was serious?)

I placed a second vote on Lazy...you place the second vote on me...you say I am bandwagoning...I say you are (fill in the blank), the circle begins a new? (you are telling me this is serious?)

are we going to start bumping heads again?(you are telling me this is serious?)

Where is the over reaction in this post? You said that I thought BM's reasoning sucked and you agreed it sucked. You see my interaction with you? This is serious...you see a difference?

My vote on him is not an OMGUS vote. I gave him plenty of time to say "hey, maybe it is a misunderstanding"..or "my joke on you was mostly random"..or even a "I am just trying to start conversation"

but he wont back down..he wants to push a vote on someone because of an over reaction that wasnt even there.

Now he is saying I am being overly defensive....NO, I am being offensive

When I see something scummy, I jump on it. When someone votes me (passed the random stage) for a crappy reason and refuses to admit they might be wrong...I jump on it.

Man... you are TOTALLY overreacting...

waits for CKD's head to explode...

NOW you might have a case that I am over reacting...but you are currently not sitting at -3 either.

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(mouth drops open)

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well I certianly can say I didnt see that coming.

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Um, wow?

First off: Heads up - this weekend I have limited access, so if I don't post much, that's why.

Second off: Womensrights! Yay! Let's rock this joint together!!!! (Also: who is scum?)

Third: The activity here could be waaaaay too much. But I'll try to keep up.

Fourth: CKD, you just overreacted.

FoS: CKD

Fifth: Garnasha, please explain your waar vote.

if you could aimee, please quote my initial over reaction...and explain how it was an over reaction.

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not that I am defending Aimee...currently I am in several games with her. She comes in, reads a page or two, then makes a comment. Problem is we have 9 pages. That is why i asked her to quote where my inital over reaction was and why she deemed it as such, versus regurgitating the thoguht of the hour. Like other games, I doubt she is really following this one closely.

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I enjoy the faster pace; I got started in Mafia in 48-hour-deadline games, so the speed isn't that new to me. I think it'll be
much better for us once we get out of the random phase of things.

Comments on the CKD wagon?

Tar, surely if you are asking someone for comments on my wagon you will also provide your own...9 pages in the page and your only comments have been.

WomensRights we are talking about the game on American Online Instant Messanger as we speak!

5.) No talking to other players, dead or alive, outside of the thread, unless your role permits it.

K?

Vote: CKD

MY NAME IS INIGO MONTOYA, YOU KILLED MY FATHER, PREPARE TO DIE.

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different ways of weighing bread, KG versus lbs..cultural (poke) joke vote, metric vs. english..

2.2lbs = 1kg

I was feeling oppressed again.

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however I also think that waar's unvote is justified.

ahh, I think you say it best.

News for you guys, don't defend people unless you have evidence suggesting they are town. Townies have an edge when defending themselves called the truth. Only scum need to be defended by someone else.

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however I also think that waar's unvote is justified.

ahh, I think you say it best.

News for you guys, don't defend people unless you have evidence suggesting they are town. Townies have an edge when defending themselves called the truth. Only scum need to be defended by someone else.

I was pointing out obvious reasoning for someone doing something, it's not of a defense as much as it is a, "lulz, how did you miss this?"

But go ahead and have suspicion on me, you are probably scum anyway.

so how is that different than anyone pointing out my reasoning?

"probably scum anyway"??..ummm I thought you said I WAS scum, thus the vote..

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I am still comfortable with my vote on Waar, I found him scummy when I placed the vote and nothing has yet changed this. Even his unvote (on me) seemed scummy.

However, one other thing that has popped out to me I want to explore.

Garnasha’s play. He started off defending me when if was obviously against the town majority. He had some good observations on what was going on. I understand the theory behind scum knowing someone is about to be hung (town) and vouching or defending them to buy themselves town creds Day 2. I feel like Waar could be doing that now with the unvote. However, I have been the guy (town) who opposed the caseless wagon Day 1 and the town majority. So his defense of me alone is not enough. However, once he was attacked for his defense (mostly by 50 LBs) and it looks like I wont be the fast BW lynch after all he starts to buckle.

Post 231

About my defending CKD: I thought his defence was good, and I kept encountering that first reaction which started it all because it was called overreacting which kept being quoted. My opinion was that it wasn't that overreactiong, and bandwagons gather momentum of their own. So my thoughts were that someone probably started a case against CKD to get townie lynched. I didn't defend CKD because he didn't need help with that as he seemed to have the edge of truth, I used the bandwagon on him to look for scum.

If you want CKD lynched, fine, but if he turns out to be town like I think, I'm going after BM for defending waar and pretending not to by voting him while he isn't in any danger of getting lynched. If he turns out to be scum, feel free to lynch me, but once you guys know my alignment, please lynch BM and/or waar for me.

Now it is ok if people want to lynch me, but if I come out town??? He is already setting up his attack for Day 2. If you think I am town, why are you beginning to falter in your beliefs and a defense. IF you are town, dont you want to see scum lynched versus me?

Post 247

Alright, seems I was mistaken in thinking CKD was not that scummy. Could someone with some experience give me an estimate how many scum a 19 player game prolly contains? Once I have that info I'll reconsider my vote.

He doesn’t explain why he thinks he is mistaken, there were no posts between his last post in the thread and this one. Actually he wants someone else to do the work for him. Garnasha, what made you change your mind at this point? If you want to help the town, shouldn’t you look for your known facts and draw your own conclusions without being lead around by others?

Post 250

I can also add that if more people agree that CKD overreacts in the post that started it all I'll become l;ess suspicious of you.

This post just reeks. You are basically saying, if people jump on my bandwagon, you wont be suspicious of them. You care WAY too much about what this town thinks of you. This tends to be a scum trait (if you need the theory behind that I will provide). You have done a complete 180, without a.) any reason, b.) providing a case of your own and c.) voting me yourself.

FoS Garnasha

What is

your

current stances on me, Waar, Lazy, 50 Lbs, and BM?

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I am still comfortable with my vote on Waar, I found him scummy when I placed the vote and nothing has yet changed this. Even his unvote (on me) seemed scummy.

However, one other thing that has popped out to me I want to explore.

Dude, you OMGUS'd him because he went after you for overreacting. That's not scummy, that's called "getting us out of the jokevote phase". He unvoted because he didn't want a fast bandwagon.

Please explain how that is scummy

he never addressed how I was over reacting..he simply quoted me and said I was serious, when I obviously was joking.

if you think I over reacted, maybe you could conitnue the "good" fight for him...where did I over react...also, why do you think his vote (at that point) was to get us out of the joke phase?...seems like you have a lot of insight into his motivation...care to explain?

also, do you have any comments on the rest of my post?

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thank you for fixing the tags.

he didnt explain it, please provide a post number where he explained it. All he did was quote me. He never answered how asking questions and statements like "now that just hurts, BM" was serious or an over reaction. You think that post was a over reaction?

I will even repost the quote that was the "over reaction" and "serious" and spawned the BW...(again, this question is not just for Lemming, it is for all the BWers, who voted for me, claiming it was an over reaction)

Vote: CKD

bandwagon much?

now that just hurts BM...

I placed a second vote on Lazy...you place the second vote on me...you say I am bandwagoning...

I say you are (fill in the blank), the circle begins a new?

are we going to start bumping heads again?

This was an over reaction? You think I was serious, when I told BM I was hurt? I was basically poking fun at BM calling him a hypocrite, without calling him one (which btw, he got the joke) If I was serious or over reacting, why didn’t I even FoS him?


Also, you said.

That's not scummy, that's called "getting us out of the jokevote phase". He unvoted because he didn't want a fast bandwagon.

Reading that statement, it sounds like you knew was Waar’s motivation was. That was a result of his vote, but you state he is not being scummy, because he is getting us out of the joke vote stage...just because his post got us out of the joke vote stage, that clears him in your mind?

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WR, if you go back to when the BW started (and I can provide the quote votes if needed)...many peopled jumped on the wagon because of that post stating it was an over reaction, NOT my latter comments. I find this scummy, so that is why I attacked. When I "leap down the throat" of someone who supplies crap excuse for a vote (after the random vote stage), that IS me commenting on the game.

My main point, was that the BW developed for really no reason. Which was fine, because that it typically what happens day 1. What my problem was, that only a few would admit to the fact that that was the reason the BW started. People kept pushing that my original statement was an over reaction, which is false (which you agree with).

WR, if you look back and see who voted and see why they voted, you will understand my anger.

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mcpaltp, thank you for explaining your opinion. You think I am scummy, because I am over reacting in general, not the initial response. Which is fine and I think you are being honest. But if you put yourself in my shoes, you might understand why I could be angry.

Someone says something you said was an over reaction (when it is obvious that it is not). A bandwagon forms while people provide reasons for votes that you think are false. You being town, see people pushing information that is false. What would you do?

I wasn’t going to sit back and let it pass, if I think something is scummy ( I attack and aggressively so). If you meta game, you will see that I have never seen end game as town, because of this play. My contributions help the town later. I will almost always attack what I find scummy.

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CHronx, please see post 297..not just pursuing the "over reaction incident"

waiting on my questions to be answered from this post.

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for the record, I am requesting how my initial response to BM was a over reaction..dont need to reread that much, I even stated the post for you.

I didnt answer his question, what question or comment did I "over look"?

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Chronx, was there anything there I needed to address that I didnt?

you stated.

"A townie needs to play in such a way that the town gains information about who is doing what, why, should they end up getting lynched.

You haven't done this"

I directed you to a post where I did just that..is Lemming right, did I miss something?

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nice...

insults, good times, good times.

"ALSO, I'm getting this weird vibe from you that you're doing your best to discredit me and make everyone think that waar and I talk out of thread and are cheating. You keep implying that I know his reasoning. There's only one way for that to happen and it's called cheating."

wow, jump in assumptions...your answer should have been I dont know what his motivation was, I am just guessing...you were acting like you knew his motivation when he never stated it.

actually my line of questioning was trying to establish if there was a link between the two of you this game. you were coming to his defense by explaining his vote with information he has never stated, when he could have explained his own vote. I was just trying to figure out why? The thought that you two were talking outside of the thread didnt cross my mind...well, until now that is..

why did you go there first?

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vote count request

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I'm done with this for now, I've said my piece.

and the sig?

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nice...

*snip* you were coming to his defense by explaining his vote with information he has never stated, when he could have explained his own vote. *snip*

Cite please.

2nding votecount.

Dude, you OMGUS'd him because he went after you for overreacting. That's not scummy, that's called "getting us out of the jokevote phase".

Lemming suggests that he was not acting scummy, that he as getting us out of the joke stage..How does he know that is what waar was doing?

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I'm done with this for now, I've said my piece.

and the sig?

The signature was earned through hardwork and perseverance.

whatever man, just here to have fun.

game stops being fun when people start to throwing insults around.

resort to that if you need to.

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I am telling you I didnt even think that..dont need to back pedal, trust me if I thought you were doing that..I would say it (anybody here who has played with me before knows I think it, I say)

I was just trying to see if there was a link between the two of you (in game). You said he wasnt being scummy, he was just ending the joke vote stage...I wondered why you would come out and say what his motivation was when a.) he has never stated that he intended to end the joke vote stage and b.) you supposedly dont know his alignment.

I found it out..I could have misread that, but instead of explaining it to me (because apparently I am a fucking retard) you chose to go the "we are not talking outside of the thread" route, which I didnt even consider.

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Lemming suggests that he was not acting scummy, that he as getting us out of the joke stage..How does he know that is what waar was doing?

CKD you really need to work on your reading comprehension...if you look at the last page I ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS. I NEVER SAID WAAR WAS TRYING TO GET US OUT OF JOKE VOTE PHASE.

You AGAIN are using strawman arguments to say something I did not say. AFTER I already addressed your question. Why are you blatantly ignoring what I said trying to make a connection out of where there is none?

The only thing I can think of of someone doing this is scum, so I think you're scum now.

VOTE: CKD

I was answering someone else's question.

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unvote

taking a couple days off from this game...taking shit too personally, sometimes it is a scum tactic to push you and get under your skin..sometimes, people really think you are fucking retarded and disagree with your playstyle...cant tell which it is at this point..

need to sit back, let it go, and come back to reread.

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jesus, checking my watched list I see this game is progressed two pages in the past 24 hours (some of my games dont progress two pages in 2 weeks)...I dont think I can stay away for a couple days to cool off....

that being said, I am going to reread (with a fresh look at this game) to include the past two pages I have missed...

Skimmy I see that Wind would like me to answer why Waar unvoting me was scummy.

Well, I said that it seemed "scummy(to me)"..meaning that was my opinion or assumptions. IT seemed like my BW was hot to trot and heading to a lynch, if I was lynched and I came out town, then he can always fall back on.."well, I tried to stop the wagon"....Yes, Wind, unvoting someone who might be lynched (when you dont think or are convinced they are scum) is a pro-townish move, which is eactly why scum do it. Again, note, I didnt push that because it was my opinion which I stated. I hope that answers your question..

Think I will try to do a player by player break down in the next 48 hours (work permitting)..might be the best way to look at this game in a different prespective.

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*snip*

Yes, Wind, unvoting someone who might be lynched (when you dont think or are convinced they are scum) is a pro-townish move, which is eactly why scum do it. Again, note, I didnt push that because it was my opinion which I stated. I hope that answers your question..

*snip 2.0*

I'm just gonna point out that boy do I dislike this WIFOM-y stuff here. I'm not trying to pick on you in particular as I've seen it used elsewhere, but extrapolating from this statement, anybody who acts pro-town must be scum, because scum would do it to look town.

Quick! nobody do anything pro-town, it's a scumtell! Oh snap, waar wants to stop a quick lynch and promote discussion? Git'em, he's gotta be scum! I'll teach him for wanting to help the town! Graggaglelge.

I just don't like that kind of reasoning so much is all I'm sayin'.

again, not pushing this particular point, he asked how or why

I

thought that could be scummy, I explained why

I

thought it could be...this is my when I first stated it I said "(to me)" meaning my opinion.

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edit my=why

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fair enough, back to the reread

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Sigh . .

Waar's been banned. Seeking replacement

wtf, what is the deal with the SA guys? Any reason why he was banned..

still in a reread (havent had much time to post in any of my games)...will do one here shortly.

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Unvote, vote CKD

Overreaction!!!!! CKD is clearly scum.

LOL, welcome Albert

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is it too late to get waar back?

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jesus christ, 2 pages since earlier today...quick comments because it is all that I have time for..

I encourage people to meta game Tar, he plays this way (vote hoping little content) in most of his games...Tar usually hits scum lists or is killed because of this style of play.

this is my first real game with ABR (he modded a game I was in though), so he might know my play style...I was super aggressive and NKed (because of my mason claim)..he also replaced into another game that I was lynch Day 1 in for being too aggressive...so I am not sure why he is thinking I am scummy (still think it is a joke for the most part). That being said, I think this is ABR normal playing style too...dont know him well enough to know if it is effective or not.

I enjoyed Peers PbP (finally someone gets where I was coming from)...how long did that take you to read and post?...also thought his analysis was pretty solid..

I would like to see skitzer post cases versus lists..

windshipper is surprising me, looks like he is actively scum hunting (even though I still appear to be on his radar)

I dont like 50's absence...I am sure there are others, but he is sticking out to me..

when I have more than two seconds will do a Player by Player (as I see it)..

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I'll agree with CKD. Can we have Waar back? Please?

The hell of it is... I'm starting to think AKR is town. Amazingly annoying town, but he's trying to appear scummy enough that a scum won't kill him. He just doesn't realized he's gone so far a lot of the town wants him dead, too...

I agree and I am fine with that (for now)..I dont think he has gone too far, too far would be a BW where he is forced to claim..I for one have no desire to BW ABR, because it would be just too easy to start a case..I will leave that for scum.

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ABR makes a point about Garnashas language barrier

helping

him, but I don't feel it is enough for anything yet. Maybe there is a true language barrier. We need to get something solid on him.

List Time:
CKD
ABR
Garnasha
Tarhalindur

I would like to see skitzer post cases versus lists..

your lists are meaningless

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They have all had very scummy ways of play to me.

CKD and ABR are very harsh and blunt in their ways of play. It's almost ironic that they are against each other.

Garnasha pushed for a roleclaim. I thought that was a very strange move in this game.

Tarhalindur is on there only because ABR wondered why people were voting for him. I guess that's not a very big reason.

See? None of those reasons are big enough for a vote.

so being "harsh" and "blunt" equal scummy?

And I think i have stated several times that I am not going after ABR at this point..

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Maybe with how this group tends to jump all over people for barely-scummy behavior, he's worried about guessing wrong and voting for someone that makes everyone else jump on him?

I doubt that...you think so with all of those lists he makes?

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Why should I, maybe he's my mason buddy. Maybe I have an uncanny hunch you are too slow to catch.

soft claim?

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I think ABR probably set up windshipper there...in wind's defense, he is new to the site and that particular rule is not stated in the MOD's rules...however, ABR it is right, it is a gobal rule. Usually it is handled by the Mod (if wind will be warned or mod killed)..At the least, the post needs to be deleted..

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I think he set me up too, which is why I'm so pissed right now. He was a total ass and I didn't know the rule. I should have, and if I'm modkilled it's fair and I understand. However, I'm still pissed at being set up and following through on it without seeing that's what was happening. He knew I didn't know the rules, and so set me up to fall hard.

it is up to the MOD...I have seen it go either way..might behoove you to PM the MOD to let him know it happened.

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I think ABR probably set up windshipper there...

Probably?

He flat-out asked for proof that he knew could only be gotten by breaking that rule.

He should have at least the same punishment windshipper gets. You trick someone into shooting the President, you both get arrested for murder.

well, ABR didnt break a rule...only thing he did was lie.

lol ?? I never said such things in any game ??!? Where is your evidence ? Proof ? Complete bs.

It was an ass move, but Wind shouldnt have quoted (linked) to the game..Wind obviously didnt know the rule...but ABR has a case...ugh, all around

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(mostly a bump post).

thanks for staying wind

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again like Tar, Aimee is playing this way in all of her games (at least the one's I am in with her)..metagaming her, all of her post in the the threads are the same.

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Everyone does remember that this is the game with fixed deadlines, right? It shouldnt become too onerous to keep up with. And the SA people are quitting at a rather feverish pace. This should be a game people can reasonably keep up with in short order. But between the replacements and the distractions and the mod getting his work access blocked... this could very well die. Which would be a damn shame, because I want more deadlined games.

the fact that this game had deadlines was what appealled to me...

Mod, can we get a vote count?

I dont think this game is that near death, but we need energy..

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Skruffs, thank you for your help..you are the bomb!!

ALso can we prod Garnasha, last post was 10/25.

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did you really say "rad"?

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I have no votes, and I am not in the not voting thingy on the last vote count, just to forewarn.

Minor suspicions on ABR still, because, well, I think I made myself clear in an earlier post

are you replying to someone?

if not, what was the point of this post?

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He was obviously replying to the vote count, since he's pointing out he hasn't voted and wasn't listed in the have-not-voted section.

thanks peers, post makes since now.

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well I was looking forward to this game..even with all the heat on me

this is the first game I have been in that will be abandoned...sort of sucks...

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still curious who was town and who was scum..had my theories.

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^^^ one of my theories for scum

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dont need a prod, if we really are playing

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going to be a light poster 11/09-11/12..long weekend holiday..

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for now I feel good with

vote 50 lbs of bread

by far one of the scummiest in this game..

what was the case against St. Freak?

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I am confused, wind, where is your vote again and why are you telling us why SF is not scum?

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I am confused, wind, where is your vote again and why are you telling us why SF is not scum?

My vote is on Tarharlindur. I am not saying that SF is not scum, I am saying why I am voting Tarharlindur over SF and my feelings about SF. He could be scum, but I don't think he is.

looked at the last vote count, appears your vote is on SF..sorry

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back from the holidays, got to reread to see what going on...tons of votes in a short span.

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havent had much time to read this game yet, but you are right cicero, everyone needs to comment and get active..

will follow your example...

will try to get to this in the next couple of days.

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finished reread...interesting, not how I thought Day 2 would go down.

can we get a vote count please?

oh yeah, add this to it.

Vote Phate.

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jesus christ we lost our doctor and cop...dammit

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really dont have much to say...lost interest in the game once the SA kids did their things, we lost our mod, and the other mod kills.

I am reading the game but dont feel that Cicero's or Wind's bandwagon really have a case presented..MC hasnt really pushed a case against me, so I really have nothing to defend against...but I am sure when he does and I break it down, he will just call me over defensive...(yawn).

MC why dont you present a case, then push for my lynch.

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in reference to BM I am seen him get nasty to the point I felt he was scum...turns out he wasnt

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http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... c&&start=0 Theres a mason recruiter in this game.

reading this game as time permits...I have neer seen a mason recruiter in action and curious how it works....it also might be interesting to read cicero's past games to see if he has ever encountered one.

Ceciro, want to save me a meta and just tell us if you ever been in a game with a mason recruiter?

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you think BM and Cicero are bussing each other?

unvote

others are acting scummier

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fair enough,

vote BM

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so basically you two are arguing that BM is anti-town?
what is your point?

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unvote BM

..on a mixture of gut and meta.

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unvote BM

..on a mixture of gut and meta.

Seriously, what's up with this guy? He's putting even less effort into this than I am, and that's sayin' something.

Let's go for him, eh?

##Unvote,
##Vote:CKD

BM is still okay, but I figure why not go for the guy who seems the scummiest and went from super antagonistic and defensive yesterday to hardcore lurking today?

Just watch, he'll probably overreact.

lynch me, I am over reacting..

vote mcpaltp

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no an OMGUS vote would have been the first time you tried to push my wagon today for no reason...this is a vote because you are trying to push anything on anyone for little to no reason...if it doesnt work, you go somewhere else...

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good jdodge, jump on early while you can

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I will be gone until the 26th. Also giving you the heads up, I am in a ton of games so it might be slow going updating all the games I am in, but I will get to it when I get back.

Thanks for the entertainment, I hope you and yours have a good holiday!

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what is a fireman?

going to reread

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and your vote was where?

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yeah I feel ya,

vote phate

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Sneaky -1 there, CKD.

you dont agree with my vote?

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Sneaky -1 there, CKD.

you dont agree with my vote?

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yeah I feel ya,

vote phate

you disagree with my vote?

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Vote: CKD

What was with that sneaky little -1 vote?

why was it sneaky, and why didnt you answer my question yesterday? Almost seems like you were laying the groundwork for a lynch today like you knew Phate was town. Wasnt your vote on him too?

vote Jdodge

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so then you didnt really want to vote Phate yesterday? Because as it stands you helped lynch Phate, but started pointing fingers at me yesterday even before we learned his alignement..I wonder why that is?

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so then you didnt really want to vote Phate yesterday? Because as it stands you helped lynch Phate, but started pointing fingers at me yesterday even before we learned his alignement..I wonder why that is?

I did want to lynch Phate. Stop strawmanning me. I want to know why you hopped on Phate

without giving any reasoning

. Stop avoiding the damn question already.

mostly his voting pattern...but what I think is interesting that you started this bullshit yesterday before we even discovered his alignment. Tell me, why did you start it then versus today?

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yep, I felt his voting record was enough for my vote...what part of that are you not understanding?

I dont care that you are jumping on my ass for "hopping on his wagon". I care about the timing. It is one thing for you to do it today (after we found out his alignment) but you slipped up and did it yesterday....and sure enough he turned up town and you continued you push today.

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IT is all about the timing, what part of laying the groundwork for tomorrow's lynch do YOU not understand. If Phate came up scum, would you continue to bust my balls today. You are trying to make me look scummy, while completely down playing your own vote on Phate..

why?

if I remember correctly your "reason" and vote were quite weak.

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vote jdodge again, tried to do this yesterday but apparently the site is constantly over cpu quota.

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ah fuck biscuit.

vote jdodge

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sweet christ dodge, it isnt because you suspected me...it is WHEN you suspected me and how you are going about attacking me today....I think you knew Phate was going to come up town, and you wanted some place to go today once he did...but obviously the town is not buying your crap.

If you feel it gives you some credance to your "case" against me go ahead and use it...

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so I got this straight..neither of you thought that dodge's post could be laying the ground work for a lynch push today?

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well normally I dont like lurking, but with the site being what it has been I have been doing a level of "lurking" in some of my games because I am getting fustrated with the dreaded CPU QUOTA...so right now, I dont think anything of it..unless he has been posting (regularly) in his other games..might be worth a meta...I think I might be in another game with him..will check

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got my prod..I see Jdodge and I are still on the same page.

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setael, you?

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about thinking that jdodge was laying the groundwork for a push for a lynch today? Apparently no one really is considering it or there would be more votes on him...but I call as I see it.

at any rate, no, I didnt like your last vote on QB..I think he needs to be replaced, but that is doubtful.

what about you Set, Jdodge's question...if your vote wasnt on QB who would it be on?

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ha

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lol, why?..what about the 4 posts of mine before then?

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bastards....this game suffered from the mod kills...but I know you had no choice..thanks Skruffs for your help..I hate putting this game into my "lost" catagory..

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and I protected the fucking GF one night, ugh...it was because of Jdodge...knew his ass was scum