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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 3:56 am

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In post 174, Ankamius wrote:Yeah Lucian's straight up broken atm.
I feel like we should just call him the only viable ADC, who can shred tanks and not get 1 shot.

I wouldn't call him broken, just the only ADC that is able to do the ADC job at the current point and time due to the gutting of ADC's in general.
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 4:09 am

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MF can theoretically do it with the youmou's - cleaver build, but in reality she gets killed too easily.
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 4:14 am

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give her a galio support and she's golden
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 7:12 am

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In post 177, SleepyKrew wrote:give her a galio support and she's golden
That's Zhonya's that you're thinking of.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 7:30 am

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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 8:07 am

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So, I saw something interesting on reddit. Your pitting a rainbow team (bronze -> diamond) against a team of all gold players. Who do you put where?

Spoiler: My Choices!
Top - Bronze

Your bronze toplaner would ideally play maokai or malphite or something that has an impact regardless of how much gold they have, and can farm relatively safely. They can also receive the occasional jungle gank if things go poorly.

Jungler - Platinum

The platinum tier jungler should know how to exploit gold players and be able to be where they need the jungler to be. As a bonus, the plat jungler may be able to play nidalee or kindred effectively and shut the game out before it begins.

Mid - Diamond

This is to have a lane that wins almost every time (or at least goes even) and knows how to roam, so you effectively have 2 junglers when you need it.You can put the midlaner on TF for global pressure!

ADC - Silver

an ADC is nothing if they don't get proper peel, so having a lower tier player on ADC seems ;like a good strat so they can receive proper peel. Additionally, a silver player is less likely to go 1v5'ing on ADC then a bronze may if they get ahead.

Support - Gold

Gold support should be able to go even in lane vs. other gold players and keep the ADC relatively safe.
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 8:26 am

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My main problem with your thought process is you think you can decide what the bronzie plays, if they are bronze, they will likely play a damage heavy champion top (think fiora/riven) and not go anywhere near even, and probably have ass farm.
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 8:38 am

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I feel like I'd put adc and support at diamond support and plat adc just because if that lane gets ahead (which it will) a diamond support will make all the plays and the adc will have good enough mechanics to outplay the entire enemy team.
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 8:55 am

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In post 181, JasonWazza wrote:with your thought process is you think you can decide what the bronzie plays, if they are bronze, they will likely play a damage heavy champion top (think fiora
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 10:00 am

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One game off of entering my promos. I'm in a good mood. I decide to play adc. The enemy then pick Vi and kata and get incredibly fed and decide to hard focus me and we lose the game. I do not know why I never learn.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 10:11 am

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In post 182, Dwlee99 wrote:I feel like I'd put adc and support at diamond support and plat adc just because if that lane gets ahead (which it will) a diamond support will make all the plays and the adc will have good enough mechanics to outplay the entire enemy team.
Honestly if you have a good ADC you can probably cope with a half decent support and are better off putting someone better into the jungle.

2 ways i would consider setting it up.

Top - Bronze
Jungle - Diamond
Mid - Platinum
ADC - Gold
Support - Silver

OR

Top - Bronze
Jungle - Platinum
Mid - Gold
ADC - Diamond
Support - Silver

I'd argue that number 1 is better for the current patches, 2 is probably more viable in a few patches when the ADC isn't gonna get instant 1-shot extremely often (cause even diamond players would have that problem).
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 10:17 am

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if anyone is looking for a tanky bronze toplaner that you feel like carrying, I'm your man
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 10:18 am

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Bronze - Plat supports not as huge of a difference in play level
High diamond / challenger supports are godlike.
I prefer they, thanks :)
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 11:43 am

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In post 187, Dwlee99 wrote:Bronze - Plat supports not as huge of a difference in play level
High diamond / challenger supports are godlike.
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 12:21 pm

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In post 188, RayFrost wrote:
In post 187, Dwlee99 wrote:Bronze - Plat supports not as huge of a difference in play level
High diamond / challenger supports are godlike.
This guy.
it isn't a lie. lol
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 1:08 pm

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Its a bit of a stretch. I'd say maybe Silver-Plat not much variation but Bronze is just a cesspool

Also I've seen some Godtier Bard's carry solo in Gold so there's always exceptions anyway
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 1:23 pm

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must've been aphro and matt's smurfs
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 1:49 pm

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okay silver-plat I'll give you that. But if they're carrying in gold they're not gold level.
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 2:20 pm

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Jungle and top as most skilled. Mid as gold. Bot lane as weakest 2.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 2:29 pm

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In post 193, Ankamius wrote:Jungle and top as most skilled. Mid as gold. Bot lane as weakest 2.
*adc stands still and autos*
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 2:43 pm

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Good, they only need to hit towers anyway.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 2:45 pm

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for tge record I think I would build the team as

Top - Gold
Jungle - Bronze
Mid - Plat
ADC - Diamond
Support - Silver

Just try to win all three lanes and snowball the game. Have the plat guy call objectives.
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 2:50 pm

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In post 196, PJ. wrote:Jungle - Bronze
this is begging for trouble
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 2:50 pm

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I agree with panzer's ranges. Would consider putting the bronze in support and the silver in jungle instead.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Sat May 28, 2016 3:39 pm

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In post 197, SleepyKrew wrote:
In post 196, PJ. wrote:Jungle - Bronze
this is begging for trouble

Unless the other jungler is higher gold or plat, the junglers are never gonna see each other, and as long as the bronze guy does what the mid laner tells him for objectives, it should be fine. The lanes should have the advantage. The adc can drive his support, the Gold top laner is on an island, plat mid laner drives the jungler. everyone is accounted for. And the lanes should have the advantage all the way through.

You don't want the bronze guy on an island and you don't want your jungler having to camp top because your bronze top laner is catapaulting someone better than him.
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