Adele wrote:
You are dogmatic in your approach to this matter, and condescending besides. It makes me think that your understanding of the subject is limited to the first - or perhaps second - round of "lies to children" you got fed. Newsflash: Reality is more complex and elegant than is dreamed of in your philosophy.
I didn't fucking bring up dogs stop changing the subject
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Adele wrote:
However, you clearly don't understand what science
is
, since the word "tentative" is apparently not part of your vocabulary. The fact is that there are scientists who don't agree with the "theory of gravity" (if you are referring to the Newtonian construct, it'd be most; if Einsteinian, fewer, but still plenty). The word for those people is not "silly" but "potentially groundbreaking".
Adele wrote:
You are dogmatic in your approach to this matter, and condescending besides. It makes me think that your understanding of the subject is limited to the first - or perhaps second - round of "lies to children" you got fed. Newsflash: Reality is more complex and elegant than is dreamed of in your philosophy.
I didn't fucking bring up dogs stop changing the subject
*sigh* Isn't there a bridge you should be hiding under?
Alasdair wrote:
why the shit are you guys wandering onto talking about the Bible
I thought it was on the scientific theory of evolution for the biodiversity of life on this planet and the origin of species
if you disagree with that then you're as silly as not agreeing with the theory of gravity, the theory of atoms, or the theory of germs
As somebody who has enough faith to believe in God while still accepting science, I challenge an evolution denier (I'd call them creationists but really that'd imply they had a belief system that made sense, that'd be like calling holocaust-deniers their own special name for their wacky belief system)
I'm curious, how do you reconcile science with your faith? How do you consider your religious belief scientific in light of the fact that faith is wholly irrational (see the now defunct God Thread, which I think this may prompt a resurrection of)?
Aisar wrote:
No you're wrong evolution is real but we didn't come from STINKING MONKEYS !
We did not come from monkeys. Monkeys are a contemporary evolved species. We came from, and still are, apes.
Cool, knowledge is refined and improved over time, thanks for the input!
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Do you believe in Odin? Zeus? Thor? No? They fell out of favour huh.
I'm going to toss this silly Bible out, who believes in that shit, could be gone tomorrow
*blink* I thought you said you believed in god?
I don't know what your talking about I know my teacher said we came from monkeys are you a teacher I DON'T THINK SO
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Alasdair wrote:
why the shit are you guys wandering onto talking about the Bible
I thought it was on the scientific theory of evolution for the biodiversity of life on this planet and the origin of species
if you disagree with that then you're as silly as not agreeing with the theory of gravity, the theory of atoms, or the theory of germs
As somebody who has enough faith to believe in God while still accepting science, I challenge an evolution denier (I'd call them creationists but really that'd imply they had a belief system that made sense, that'd be like calling holocaust-deniers their own special name for their wacky belief system)
I'm curious, how do you reconcile science with your faith? How do you consider your religious belief scientific in light of the fact that faith is wholly irrational (see the now defunct God Thread, which I think this may prompt a resurrection of)?
Aisar wrote:
No you're wrong evolution is real but we didn't come from STINKING MONKEYS !
We did not come from monkeys. Monkeys are a contemporary evolved species. We came from, and still are, apes.
Cool, knowledge is refined and improved over time, thanks for the input!
Watch me do this too
Do you believe in Odin? Zeus? Thor? No? They fell out of favour huh.
I'm going to toss this silly Bible out, who believes in that shit, could be gone tomorrow
*blink* I thought you said you believed in god?
sarcasm
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Alasdair wrote:Supernova 1987 is a Supernova that we can use simple trigonometry to find is 168 K light years away. First the supernova lit up, then the gas rings around them lit up about 8 months later. Simple trig to figure out how many light years it is away. The cool thing about this is that it doesn't even depend on the speed of light
So how can there be light 168 K years old in a 6K year old universe?
Despite the fact he's wrong anyway, he said 'earth', not 'universe'.
EDIT: To make sure I don't look like an idiot, yes, I 'got' it :/
Why would God make the universe first and then make the Earth like 100 million years later. Did you even read the bible?
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Aisar wrote:
I don't know what your talking about I know my teacher said we came from monkeys are you a teacher I DON'T THINK SO
BZZT! Argument from authority.
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZT!
I think I will be using this counter point in every debate of mine in the future
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Ninth wrote:
Why would God make the universe first and then make the Earth like 100 million years later. Did you even read the bible?
... Huh?
Are you joking, or not :/
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Ninth wrote:
Why would God make the universe first and then make the Earth like 100 million years later. Did you even read the bible?
This is drifting into the God thread...but you actually need to prove that God did make the universe before this is even a legitimate question.
BZZZZT
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You guys do know, that the POPE said evolution happened.
THE FLIPPING POPE SAID IT.
BZZZZT
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Genesis isn't meant to be taken literally, if you take the Bible literally you're going to have a hard time understanding that Jesus guy, he keeps on going off about wacky stories that don't relate to the matter!
But I prefer to talk about science, so I'd like Adele to know how we want this approach to go. Would you like me to present the evidence for evolutionary theory to you, Adele, or would you like to shoot it down? Who wants to take on defense?
Nice try. You're speaking of Parables, that usually begin with "And Jesus spake to the crowd" or "and Jesus spake to his disciples"
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Alasdair wrote:Cool, knowledge is refined and improved over time, thanks for the input!
Watch me do this too
Do you believe in Odin? Zeus? Thor? No? They fell out of favour huh.
I'm going to toss this silly Bible out
Good boy. Well done.
And if you aren't willing to admit you COULD be wrong, how do you propose to refine and improve knowledge?
when you get around to finding that pesky evidence I might admit it
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you believe. Hence tentative - you should approach all knowledge with this attitude, not accept what Sir says as definate until proven otherwise.
If I were to find evidence disproving evolution, you would be forced to admit - not that you
could
be wrong - but that you
are
wrong. In lieu of that evidence (which I don't expect to ever come to light), though, you should recognise that you
could
be wrong.
Also, if you're gonna troll, get better at it. Saying "I'm here to fuck with so-and-so"? It's just more support for my growing theory that you aren't very bright.
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Adele wrote:I'm saying, "you could be wrong" about
anything
you believe. Hence tentative - you should approach all knowledge with this attitude, not accept what Sir says as definate until proven otherwise.
If I were to find evidence disproving evolution, you would be forced to admit - not that you
could
be wrong - but that you
are
wrong. In lieu of that evidence (which I don't expect to ever come to light), though, you should recognise that you
could
be wrong.
Also, if you're gonna troll, get better at it. Saying "I'm here to fuck with so-and-so"? It's just more support for my growing theory that you aren't very bright.
You're arguing for the sake of arguing, how are you better than he is?
Hey guys 2 + 2 isn't 4, someone could disprove it and blow our minds!
Hey guys the earth isn't 6000 years old, btw I have no proof but yeah facts could be wrong!
