Mini 1796 | May 13th - Game over (Tomato Mafia wins)

[Dunnstral]

Dunn's probably town, my vote on him was really a joke.

uhhh

[Trivium]

I'm about 80% sure blueyoshi is scum, so I'm keeping my vote. Rasko is probably scum too, the shift of attention towards and away from him felt really forced, can't pinpoint how though. drmy's weird.

[Trivium]

I made a joke on parallel structure. Not like that was going to be a wagon anyway, I didn't even make a case.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: BlueYoshi

Pretty sure Raskol is town

[Tommy]

Probably not going to be able catch up completely tonight, but here are some thoughts on the start of the game.

On page 2, Dunnstral manufactures a nothing wagon on Raskolnikov. Which is fine by me - I like an RVS wagon. It raises the stakes. People get a little nervous and you start to see where they stand. So I agree with Raskolnikov in post 35.

I also like this from Raskolnikov:

Do you two know each other?
Is this like a good cop bad cop routine?

This would be a good moment to explain my sock puppets comment. Sock puppets are multiple accounts controlled by the same person. It's against site rules for one player to have two slots in a game. Here's what I said to the game and list mods during the sign-up phase:

Hi N and Creature,

Zachstralkita and Dunnstral signed up for the game at the same time, with the same message. They have the same join date, and Zachstralkita's topics list is a subset of Dunnstral's. Do you think they're sock puppets?

Tommy

Neither replied. Now I'm starting to wonder whether Dunnstral is a legitimate player and Zachstralkita is trolling him. That appears to be what they both imply in answer to Raskolnikov. Dunnstral, is that how you would characterise the situation?

Page 3: liking Dunnstral, disliking Blue Yoshi, can't read Zach.

Page 4: I agree with Dunnstral that Zachstralkita's switch to Raskolnikov is scummy, and that drmyshottyizsik joining the wagon was fine. Don't like Dunnstral lying about having reasons for voting Raskolnikov.

Page 5: Jar JarDrinks has a good case on Raskolnikov at 109 and 113. Trivium gives no reason for jumping on the Raskolnikov wagon.

On page 6, this one is fishy:

that wasnt a scum claim btw

Trivium's vote at 146 is OMGUS and nothing else.

Page 9: inspectorscout shouldn't be hunting for power roles, but I don't think it's a scum tell.

pointing out drmy here is good too (though I don't quite agree with them being scum yet)

What is this 'yet'?

I'll keep reading up before I attempt another vote.

[Dunnstral]

This would be a good moment to explain my sock puppets comment. Sock puppets are multiple accounts controlled by the same person. It's against site rules for one player to have two slots in a game. Here's what I said to the game and list mods during the sign-up phase:

Hi N and Creature,

Zachstralkita and Dunnstral signed up for the game at the same time, with the same message. They have the same join date, and Zachstralkita's topics list is a subset of Dunnstral's. Do you think they're sock puppets?

Tommy

Neither replied. Now I'm starting to wonder whether Dunnstral is a legitimate player and Zachstralkita is trolling him. That appears to be what they both imply in answer to Raskolnikov. Dunnstral, is that how you would characterise the situation?

I can see that you're a pleasant person to be around

[Zachstralkita]

Probably not going to be able catch up completely tonight, but here are some thoughts on the start of the game.

On page 2, Dunnstral manufactures a nothing wagon on Raskolnikov. Which is fine by me - I like an RVS wagon. It raises the stakes. People get a little nervous and you start to see where they stand. So I agree with Raskolnikov in post 35.

I also like this from Raskolnikov:

Do you two know each other?
Is this like a good cop bad cop routine?

This would be a good moment to explain my sock puppets comment. Sock puppets are multiple accounts controlled by the same person. It's against site rules for one player to have two slots in a game. Here's what I said to the game and list mods during the sign-up phase:

Hi N and Creature,

Zachstralkita and Dunnstral signed up for the game at the same time, with the same message. They have the same join date, and Zachstralkita's topics list is a subset of Dunnstral's. Do you think they're sock puppets?

Tommy

Neither replied. Now I'm starting to wonder whether Dunnstral is a legitimate player and Zachstralkita is trolling him. That appears to be what they both imply in answer to Raskolnikov. Dunnstral, is that how you would characterise the situation?

We are friends.

[Dunnstral]

Woah hold on a moment quoting a pm?

Gonna need a mod in here I'm being violated

Seriously though it should be obvious we're different people and I'll have to message N or something to make sure I'm not being sleuthed on

[Zachstralkita]

Fuck 12.

[Dunnstral]

pointing out drmy here is good too (though I don't quite agree with them being scum yet)

What is this 'yet'?

Don't agree with them being scum based on what was provided, but could see it with more information

[Creature]

That's likely an endless illusion.

Tommy is no longer V/LA

Lowell is V/LA until Tuesday 31st

Seeking replacement for Bacde

VC 1.9

Votecount 1.9

[0] Tommy
[1] Raskolnikov - Lowell
[2] drmyshottyizsik - Transcend, Raskolnikov
[0] Lowell
[0] Dunnstral
[2] Zachstralkita - inspectorscout, drmyshottyizsik
[0] nnn_thekushmountains
[2] Blue Yoshi - Trivium, Dunnstral
[1] Transcend - Blue Yoshi
[0] JarJarDrinks
[0] Trivium
[1] inspectorscout - JarJarDrinks
[0] Bacde

[0] Nolynch

Not voting (4): Tommy, nnn_thekushmountains, Bacde, Zachstralkita

With 13 alive, 7 votes is the majority.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-06-10 16:30:00)

[Bacde]

Sup dudes I haven't checked my role yet

[Bacde]

Hey I wasn't pinged don't replace me

[Bacde]

Anyone wanna sum up whats happened so far while I reread?

Its ok if you really want to replace me I won't fight you mod, but I'm here now

[Bacde]

And I'd rather not get replaced

Don't worry, you won't

[Bacde]

vote Zachstralkita

while I figure out what is going on

[Trivium]

What is going on bacde?

[Raskolnikov]

VOTE: BlueYoshi

[Zachstralkita]

vote Zachstralkita

while I figure out what is going on

Nice to meet you too homes

[Bacde]

Ok, Transcend is town, Dunn is town, inspectorscout is town

JarJar is scum

Vote: JarJar

lets do this

[Dunnstral]

Why is JarJar scum?

I think he's towny

[Blue Yoshi]

I guess things happened

Okay so either I completely missed something with Transcend or I just can't read words correctly because he's town when I look at him now
UNVOTE:

Kindly direct my vote to where it should go, thinking Trivium or drmy because I should stop trying to figure things out myself and just sheep other peoples's reads.

[Trivium]

Yeeaaah Blueyoshi is 100% scum, burn me at the stake if he isn't.

[Trivium]

VOTE: BlueYoshi

I would however like some commentary along with this vote. Are you just agreeing, or what exactly is going on here?

[inspectorscout]

Blueyoshi whyyyy
i thought you were town but with every post you seem to try and convince us you are not T_T
read the game, read some iso's and please, come back with at least some opinion, you still have time to do that
@dunn this is kinda why i wont put jarjar at town right now

Meanwhile: jarjar conveniently jumped too because ''his iso is fluffy there arent opinions'' while i can give you a list of my stuff with opinions like 168,188,226,243,249,296 and the seemingly infamous 301. Also, now that i can quote:

VOTE: inspectorscout

I just read his ISO and so much fluff. There's like barely any opinions on anyone. And when he finally does give his reads:

Spoiler:

Ok niceee ive got some time

town

Dunn: hes actively contributing, his points seem pretty valid (and is one of the only that doesnt try to make bad jokes) however i do not agree hes 'town leader' because he is just finishing off discussions instead of starting them, nobody is leading this rn

nulltown

Transcend: like, you're readin the same way and you try to contribute. And that 'heavy non game related shit posts' just seems a way to avoid good reasoning and vote him. Still not convinced cuz u seem to buddying dunn and me, and thats slightly scummy

null

Raskol: everyone thought he was scummy, ranted about some emotional stuff and suddenly considered town. Have a bad feeling about that, but his later contributions seem town, so ill keep him at null

Kushmountain: what do u expect he posted once

Tommy: lel


Yah everyone i didnt mention is here too because they didnt post enough yet or just cuz i have absolutely no idea about them yet

nullscum

Drmy:his 'this is scum claim' was pretty ehhh suspicious and i dunno but to me it seemed like he wanted to bait me into a discussion about that. Not as much scum as the others but still (oh and adding exclamation marks 'town wouldnt even think to post that!' just make ur posts seem fake, just sayin)

Zach: tells seem rather forced and farfetched and i still hate his attitude, either he loves memes or hes just trying to spread a shitload of mist + lol my opinions are almost the same as dunn's yet u dont value his opinions WHILE you said u townread him

Yoshi: i still dont get transcend wagon, his reaction to triv was pretty weird , reads are kinda farfetched too. Still unsure about this one tho

it's basically townreading the guy that everyone is townreading and then weak-ass scumreads on 3 of the people that everyone else is suspecting.

And like all of his scum reads are "This guy seems like scum but IDK maybe not."

Just a list of strange reads there. WHy the F does he mention Kush as a null read for making ONE post but then he lumps everyone else in the nulls saying "Yah everyone i didnt mention is here too because they didnt post enough yet or just cuz i have absolutely no idea about them yet"?

The 3 scumclaims are weak because we are like 3 days into D1. There is no dead body yet, there are no roles claimed yet, all of this is based on opinions. Now, if you can make a good, reliable scum read after 3 days into D1, tell me how because i honestly have no clue. I already replied to the other stuff in my previous posts, though.