Mini 1795: Science [GAME OVER]

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: Cabd

LTNS

[GuyInFreezer]

I got a vote! Am I in first place now?

No. Third.

[GuyInFreezer]

I agree with Sheldon that Java being a double voter is the sort of thing that was going to come out anyway if he can't switch it off and on, so there is no scum motivation to lie about such a thing and thus telling the truth about it isn't a towntell. I don't think that either his claim or his role are alignment indicative under these circumstances.

Java, did you get anything out of anybody's initial responses to your voting Cabd and then unvoting him without explanation?

With Anti's setup Doublevoter is probably town.

Unless he went more sadistic since the last time I played his game which is still a possibility.

[GuyInFreezer]

Life has been hectic for me. Will catch up this evening.

[GuyInFreezer]

Best way to catch up is to ISO.

Cabd feels slightly town so far

UNVOTE:

[GuyInFreezer]

MoI feels like his town self I played with recently so he'll go there too.

[GuyInFreezer]

If I want to be naive right now I would also call FA town.
And I wanna be naive right now for few days since naive read is the best read.

[GuyInFreezer]

top

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh Java was that said DV wasn't he

Town. Moving on.

[GuyInFreezer]

Mr Meeseeks I'll have to watch a bit more before i make my decision on that dude.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: Aneninen

Let me put my vote here for now and see if I find the better place to put my vote on.

[GuyInFreezer]

SC town
chilledtea goes to same place as Mr Meeseeks.

[GuyInFreezer]

Two townreads so far.

Not bad for gamestart.

Would like to sort mr. image format sooner rather than later, but it's whatever. He'll make it happen.

Oh and fair warning after thinking about it: nobody town should target me tonight. Scum feel free~

This is just for you.

[GuyInFreezer]

he's not here.

I'm here now!

[GuyInFreezer]

-Science!!!
GuyInFreezer
Cabd
Fire Assassin
Javajoe24
MagnaOfIllusion
SirCakez
KuroiXHF

-Lack of research
Mr Meeseeks
chilledtea

-Unidentified
SheldonCooper
shos
Travelling Salesman (Plotinus + BulletNLynchproof)

-notscience
Aneninen

Now to work I go

[GuyInFreezer]

-Science!!!
GuyInFreezer
Cabd
Fire Assassin
Javajoe24
MagnaOfIllusion
SirCakez
KuroiXHF

-Lack of research
Mr Meeseeks
chilledtea

-Unidentified
SheldonCooper
shos
Travelling Salesman (Plotinus + BulletNLynchproof)

-notscience
Aneninen

Now to work I go

Am I the scummiest of the science or is this in not any order?

(Yes. I understand how non-science that sounds.
Yes, I can't science.)

I don't do orders.

[GuyInFreezer]

@SC it's just me

being lazy

waiting for more stuffs before I sort them.

[GuyInFreezer]

How can someone being too calm be an accusation?

"too anything" sounds like an accusation to me

@SC it's just me

being lazy

waiting for more stuffs before I sort them.

There's a lot to sort both with tho

And most of them were alt shenanigan and some non-game-related stuff. They seemed to be emotionally upset when I read so I want the content some time after those.

[GuyInFreezer]

I think someone asked me if I can present a case or something.

No.

[GuyInFreezer]

So Francium.

Is it towny flavor or scummy flavor

[GuyInFreezer]

So Francium.

Is it towny flavor or scummy flavor

This is not a good catch up.

Please tell me you have more reads.

What better way to start the day than discussing a random report that I received?

[GuyInFreezer]

Well meseeks, we should all cherish what we have got, even if it is a weak investigative role.

Magna was a strange kill.

VOTE : Cabd

Why did you think Magna was a strange kill?

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh also I forgot to ask Sir if the joke was funny.

[GuyInFreezer]

inb4 no scum in neighborhood.
inb4 [urk=http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=59516]all-scum neighborhood[/url].

[GuyInFreezer]

inb4 no scum in neighborhood.
inb4 all-scum neighborhood.

[GuyInFreezer]

I feel like chilled was trying to preempt Kuroi's post being seen as a townslip and it feels really scum motivated.

I see this as a null actually. Town could do so with paranoia and safe measure, and scum could do so to narrow down townreads.
Just for a sake of discussion, why can't that be done as chilledtea-town?

[GuyInFreezer]

I don't not support chilledtea lynch actually since he's in my "at least 2 from here is scum" list.

SheldonCooper
chilledtea
Aneninen
Travelling Salesman
Cabd
Fire Assassin

(It may look like I reduced stuff but really I just took out neighbors, myself, and Kuroi and assumed 2~3 scum from leftovers.)

I threw that question in mainly to see stuff from you.

[GuyInFreezer]

GiF/ChilledTea/Java.

How does that sound to everyone?

I could see this easily, but it also seems like their easily might be some VI in this grouping.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: Anenenenenenenenen

[GuyInFreezer]

I dunno if scum is going to "backtrack" that obviously

[GuyInFreezer]

I'm an investigative with an inno on GIF

I was really hoping that this wouldn't be a case :V

I have an ability to confirm myself as town lol

[GuyInFreezer]

Also I am clearly not caught up at least on claims.

Let me see where I was.

SirCakez - Neighbor/Not touching today. Francium.
SheldonCooper
GuyInFreezer - Me
chilledtea
Javajoe24 - Neighbor/Not touching today/Most likely to be down due to doublevote.
Aneninen
Travelling Salesman - He confirmed me as town. Claims to have same role with Ranger/Meeseeks?
Mr Meeseeks - Neighbor/Not touching today
KuroiXHF - Townread
Cabd - HI
Fire Assassin

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh I was thinking that TS and Mee/Ranger had the exact same role.

[GuyInFreezer]

Well since I'm confirmed town now let's pull this one off.

Ranger are you a gunsmith Y/N

[GuyInFreezer]

So, have I been doing nothing useful, some say?
Take a look at GIF then!

Technically I was LA for few weeks.
Just didn't announce in thread.

[GuyInFreezer]

Hmm this is fun.

Anenineninenineninen also claimed investigative.

One dead investigative + 3 claimed investigatives + confirmable town.

[GuyInFreezer]

I mean this is a U-Pick so role madness is assumed but man 4 investigatives sounds too much to me.

Now someone is bound to go "GIF y r u wasting time setup speccing"
Role-Madness is the best game to setup spec.

[GuyInFreezer]

Cabd I still feel like he's town and he's missing his trademark hardcore setup shenanigan but hey he's moving man.

[GuyInFreezer]

Anyway I no longer want aneninen ded. Well for now anyway.

UNVOTE:

[GuyInFreezer]

{SheldonCooper, chilledtea, Fire Assassin}

La Lynchpool.

[GuyInFreezer]

Well actually from that lynchpool I have clear thoughts on who I want alive the least.

VOTE: FA

[GuyInFreezer]

Hi Ranger!

I am so, so sorry that you replaced into a probscum slot.

I didn't like that one.

Welcome to the game Ranger. You are being almost universally scum read right now by most players, not sure why myself though.

Neither this.

@Java: Yeah, that's why she's at L-6.

Im not saying she is close to lynch, I am saying almost all players said that they have a scum read on Meseeks.

And I really didn't like this interaction AFTER those posts above.

Two, and this one's harder to explain. I got a very, VERY strong, overwhelming gut feeling (like I said,

partially

for ~reasons~, but not entirely) that told me: "Do not attempt to meta any player this game. It is a trap. No. Seriously.

Do not attempt to meta any player this game.

It is a trap.

" It's kind-of difficult to explain how I got that feeling, it's just sort-of there, where I feel like meta this game will horrendously,

horrendously

mislead us.

I'll keep that in mind.

Ranger, please read at least until the end of day 1 before giving up, you're about halfway there and it gets less wally and faster to read during the deadline scramble.

Eeiiaaoo. That was a terrible answer. Someone seems to be worried about getting a vote from Ranger.

VOTE: Aneninen
VOTE: Aneninen
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VOTE: Aneninen
VOTE: Aneninen
VOTE: Aneninen
VOTE: Aneninen
VOTE: Aneninen
VOTE: Aneninen
VOTE: Aneninen
VOTE: Aneninen
VOTE: Aneninen
VOTE: Aneninen

[GuyInFreezer]

Is my impulse but quite frankly I may be overreacting.

VOTE: FA

[GuyInFreezer]

Is my impulse but quite frankly I may be overreacting.

VOTE: FA

Y'know, maybe we can vote Aneninen tomorrow.

Well I said I was overreacting because even though the post was thoughtless to the max with a random bickering to the kick, it just shows how bad he is playing this, not alignment-indicative. (Even though, my gut is yelling "SCUM-WHO-THINK-HE'S-SAFE-BECAUSE-HIS-CLAIM-BICKERING")

[GuyInFreezer]

Also, my urge to lynch from cop variants rising.

[GuyInFreezer]

Also, my urge to lynch from cop variants rising.

This doesn't even make sense. Why do you want to lynch me more because i am a cop variant? You really shouldn't be reading into a role as anything else besides a role.

Hmm I can't quite choose what to say.

1. I refuse.
2. Dunno man 3 people claimed cop variants.
3. Uh huh.

[GuyInFreezer]

If anyone hammers FA, even if they flip scum, if I'm still alive I'm going to vote them the rest of the game and never unvote.

VOTE: FA

[GuyInFreezer]

Ahahahahahahahahahaha ANTI

[GuyInFreezer]

VC

[GuyInFreezer]

Shit not my game
Sorry

[GuyInFreezer]

Saying someone is scum because they didn't guess your main is crazy to me

How about TS's argument

[GuyInFreezer]

Which emotional outburst

If you're talking about the alt-related burst

1000% null and alignment-independant.

[GuyInFreezer]

Which emotional outburst

If you're talking about the alt-related burst

1000% null and alignment-independant.

Hello FA

[GuyInFreezer]

So about that deadline...

I'm back from my work trip, can somebody summarize what's going on now?

Mostly, why should I give a flying fuck whose alt was who?

I'm confirmed town, people want to justicelynch Ranger, FA is most likely from my PoE, and Aneninen needs rope.

[GuyInFreezer]

FA is mostly what?? And how are you confirmed town again? I must have missed that... Although I haven't really been looking at you as scum you weren't confirmed town in my mind.

scum. I tend to miss word time to time.

TS cop inno'd me and I claimed that I can prove myself town. I'm pretty much confirmed town at this point.

[GuyInFreezer]

UNVOTE:

I have this bad sudden gut feeling that FA may be the mislynch.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: Ranger

[GuyInFreezer]

java how was the joke

[GuyInFreezer]

flipping hell

mafia confirmed to have roleblocker

[GuyInFreezer]

Actually hold on I gotta check something with the mod.

[GuyInFreezer]

Is it "GIF is town"?

If so, yeah it's me.
I'm also a friendly neighbor.

It should've came with a joke too though.

[GuyInFreezer]

Anyway might as well fullclaim here.

Compulsive Fruit Vendor 1-shot Friendly Neighbor.

Instead of fruit I send joke but because Antihero is a meanie I can't see the joke I send to people.

[GuyInFreezer]

Anyway might as well fullclaim here.

Compulsive Fruit Vendor 1-shot Friendly Neighbor.

Instead of fruit I send joke but because Antihero is a meanie I can't see the joke I send to people.

Who were your targets so far again?

I'll give you 10 points if you can guess correctly.

[GuyInFreezer]

And also on the basis of his reaction during ranger's wagon.

Explain this part to me.

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh also I will say that I have no problem with RC.

[GuyInFreezer]

And also on the basis of his reaction during ranger's wagon.

Explain this part to me.

He was overconfident of ranger being scum even though he had Meseeks as town read.

It felt fake as hell.

disagree

He had reason to completely 180 on a dude.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: FA

I almost forgot to lunch this dude.
Where are the votes I was promised for

[GuyInFreezer]

Wait

So why are people calling a vengeful claim scum again?

[GuyInFreezer]

Also @Java

Don't forget to include FA to the Ranger wagon.

[GuyInFreezer]

Also @Java

Don't forget to include FA to the Ranger wagon.

Scum would say this.

Dunno man i'm confirmed town at this point.

[GuyInFreezer]

To be fair; it's 33% lurk, 33% pokemon go, and 33% frustration at the game.

Talk to me about the said frustration.

[GuyInFreezer]

Let's lynch FA.

Unlike Ranger lynch, this one is full of hope and red flip.

[GuyInFreezer]

And you're manipulative in a way I saw before in your scumgames.

Did your scum PT not reminded you yet that I'm a confirmed town?
You're literally acting the same way as FA at this point.

[GuyInFreezer]

Why FA is scumread?
There are a couple of other scummy players.

Let's start with the very terrible post-lynch Ranger vote post.

[GuyInFreezer]

And you're manipulative in a way I saw before in your scumgames.

Did your scum PT not reminded you yet that I'm a confirmed town?
You're literally acting the same way as FA at this point.

And just to add a point, I have never been "manipulative" as scum because I am a very passive player as scum.
People can read up my games. Go right ahead. My wiki is not that updated but that's just enough to give people an idea about how I play as scum.
You're spreading BS about my scum-meta to scumpaint me.
Also mentioning that I have never played a game with you as scum before.

[GuyInFreezer]

because I'll hammer you if you don't.

fucking vote him.

This is scummy play. And when I say scummy, I don't mean a Mafia play. I mean an asshole play.

VOTE: ChilledTea

I didn't like this dialogue at all.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

My god.
Just look at this scumfuck not even trying

Why are people townreading him again

[GuyInFreezer]

FUUUUUUU
sorry
Wrong quote.
I wanted to qoute RC
I'm from mobile plus LA

Like, I'm not even bickering

He literally did not give a single thought about the situation that led Kuroi to said that
He just quoted this and talked it down because he thought it looked bad.

Post cancelled.

[GuyInFreezer]

Ok I take my striked line back.

A little bit of context shows that RC threatened him to vote his scumread (ChilledTea) sooooo

[GuyInFreezer]

Why FA is scumread?
There are a couple of other scummy players.

Let's start with the very terrible post-lynch Ranger vote post.

You see, i take his bad looking post lynch ranger vote as towny because why would scum want to make himself look bad by voting a towny post lynch? That play only ever makes sense if they are bussing a partner.

"This is a mislynch"
:votes when it wont show on the wagon:

Sounds like a "told-you-so" scumbrag vote.

[GuyInFreezer]

Is that what y'all decided in a scumchat

Because I'm literally seeing a pattern here about random stuff about me.

[GuyInFreezer]

Also @Java

Don't forget to include FA to the Ranger wagon.

Scum would say this.

Let's lynch FA.

Unlike Ranger lynch, this one is full of hope and red flip.

And you're manipulative in a way I saw before in your scumgames.

Guy is probably town with the investigative result from plotinus.

Also he said he is friendly neighbour? So that does make him a strong contender for near-confirmed town.

like
Lookie here

Am I the only one who see this linked thought progress?

[GuyInFreezer]

Also if I can't get FA lynched today Aneninen is a great choice for blatantly BSing about someone's scum meta to paint them red.

[GuyInFreezer]

Peeps are getting on him for all the wrong reasons.

[GuyInFreezer]

And I got two peeps who I want dead since Day 2.

[GuyInFreezer]

I don't think it's wrong at all to put pressure on GIF and ask questions. Even townies should feel the heat.

And yes, I still think GIF is a townie.

Bro that wasn't a pressure
That was literally a poor attempt to throw shades on me.

[GuyInFreezer]

Why FA is scumread?
There are a couple of other scummy players.

Let's start with the very terrible post-lynch Ranger vote post.

You see, i take his bad looking post lynch ranger vote as towny because why would scum want to make himself look bad by voting a towny post lynch? That play only ever makes sense if they are bussing a partner.

Consider the possibility of the dude not knowing whether his post sounds bad. And then go back to your reasoning.

[GuyInFreezer]

I don't think you got my point.
I'm not talking about whether I get lynched.
I'm talking about how quick they need to eat rope.

[GuyInFreezer]

(Kuroi, Chilled, FA)
I'm prob not voting outside of this

Do you agree with aneninen's accessment of my meta?
If not, include him in that list please.

[GuyInFreezer]

Also if I can't get FA lynched today Aneninen is a great choice for blatantly BSing about someone's scum meta to paint them red.

Want to vote Aneninen? I've made it clear that I'd vote him today.
RC, is that OK? Pretty please?

I don't think it's wrong at all to put pressure on GIF and ask questions. Even townies should feel the heat.

And yes, I still think GIF is a townie.

Bro that wasn't a pressure
That was literally a poor attempt to throw shades on me.

You're not dying today. There's no reason to even worry about that.

Earlier you said RC is likely scum, now you are asking him to vote for someone? Seems sketchy to me

because I'll hammer you if you don't.

fucking vote him.

[GuyInFreezer]

And what is that supposed to mean? Yes, RC forced Kuroi to vote chilled tea, and then invited chilled himself. Kuroi said RC was scummy for this and put him at prob scum in his read list. Why then would he try to convince a scum player to vote for another scum player? All this from his perspective by the way. Makes no sense to me.

Because RC still holds the hammer for the dude?

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: Aneninen

[GuyInFreezer]

fucks sake adenine is obvtown to anyone with a cursory understanding of his meta.

Well I have no reliable meta source of him so I'll go with what's in the thread.

[GuyInFreezer]

I mean one of your scumread is a confirmed town sooooo.

[GuyInFreezer]

Ask javajoe.

[GuyInFreezer]

Also if I can't get FA lynched today Aneninen is a great choice for blatantly BSing about someone's scum meta to paint them red.

Are you still talking about my misquote? Or is there something else?
I told you I'd meant RC and HIS meta.

???

Ok now I'm just confused.

[GuyInFreezer]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: FA

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh by the way
We're not lynching cakez until one scum left and needed (like 3p lylo).

[GuyInFreezer]

Aneninen needs to be prodded.

Like seriously, how is he not even committing to this game? How stupid does he think we are? Why isn't he already lynched?

It's ok. It also fits for FA.

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: Javajoe

Sorry can't leave a doublevoter with these trash tier reads alive. This kinda has to go.

Hell no

Javajoe/SirCakez/some other dude 3p lylo = town autowin

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: Javajoe

Sorry can't leave a doublevoter with these trash tier reads alive. This kinda has to go.

Hell no

Javajoe/SirCakez/some other dude 3p lylo = town autowin

[GuyInFreezer]

Scum will be forced to kill java once we lynch 2 scum to avoid town auto so no need to worry about him fucking ever

[GuyInFreezer]

Now peeps let's lynch FA.
ISO him and you will see that he's not even trying at this point.

[GuyInFreezer]

You said Fire Assassin was almost confirmed town

Wait what

[GuyInFreezer]

I don't normally comment on my own meta unless to point out what isn't alignment indicative.
You can check my profile of where I posted to find completed games.

There's a saying that says "if one is aware of his own meta, then don't use the meta."

[GuyInFreezer]

H★A☆M★M☆E★R

[GuyInFreezer]

H★A☆M★M☆E★R

Like, I REALLY need a flip to continue at this point.

[GuyInFreezer]

Excuse me, not most, just half. Kuroi and cakez

Giving scum a vengeful is like giving scum a freaking dayvig.

[GuyInFreezer]

Claiming vengeful = lynch me

[GuyInFreezer]

This game is terrible.

[GuyInFreezer]

RC I think I'm going to set you free from this game.
Even though I really REALLY don't think you're scum.
Maybe town will clear their head once you flip.

[GuyInFreezer]

Oh hey look here's our protective role.

Hooray!

[GuyInFreezer]

Not going to hammer now that RC is now confirmed town.

[GuyInFreezer]

Like, if people refuse to unvote after that claim I really have no faith in this game.

[GuyInFreezer]

What why

[GuyInFreezer]

What a terrible modifier, that sticky.

Stickied in my future setup design note.

[GuyInFreezer]

Remind me who claimed macho.

I remember Cabd but I don't remember the second dude.

[GuyInFreezer]

GIF also said Fire Assassin was town.

What the shit

[GuyInFreezer]

Or do you mean the EARLY day 1

[GuyInFreezer]

We have two flipping machos. RC is the only protective role. (I believe everyone else claimed at this point.) How is he not confirmed town?

[GuyInFreezer]

VOTE: CT

[GuyInFreezer]

Dunno.

Maybe he didn't get it.

[GuyInFreezer]

Organic chemistry is difficult. Those who study it have alkynes of trouble.

/Bah