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Mini 1800 - Game Over

Post Post #0 (isolation #0) » Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:50 pm

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Mini 1800 Player List

Living PlayersFirebringer (replaces The Bulge (replaces Chumba))
MathBlade (replaces Snork)
MagnaofIllusion (replaces species)
Titus (replaces Kappy)
Masquerade (replaces Mizzytastic)
karnos


Notable Events


LinksRules and Day 1 Start - Post #1
Day 1 Lynch - Post #931
Day 2 Start - Post #932
Day 3 Start - Post #1376


Spoiler: Dead
JohnnyFarrar (replaces ShadyHood) was
Townie
, lynched day 1
Wingback (replaces Sickofit1138) was
Townie
, died night 1
Dierfire,
Townie
, Lynched Day 2
Wingback,
Townie
, died night 2
Dwlee99 (replaces Persivul),
Townie
, lynched day 3
MechaGoomba town motion detector died night 3
Saru odd-night mason recruiter died night 3
Titus, town jailkeeper endgamed
Firebringer, Townie endgamed
Masquerade, Townie endgamed

Karnos, mafia neapolitan, won
Mathblade, mafia goon, won
MagnaOfIllusion, Mafia Jailkeeper Enabler, won



Deadline(expired on 2016-07-26 12:00:00)
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Post Post #1 (isolation #1) » Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:51 pm

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Ruleset


General Rules

1) Follow Site Rules
2) No out of thread communication in any area except threads I give you explicitly for that purpose.
3) Don't be a megadick. Like, I expect you to be an adult. There's a line. Don't cross it. Don't try to find it. Thanks.

General Mafia Rules

1) All living players may post in thread when it is open (this is the day phase). This includes players who were just lynched. No other players may post for any reason.
2) A lynch occurs when the majority of the players vote for another player to be lynched. This kills the lynched player and ends the day.
3) All days will be followed by nights. Each night will last 48 hours, and any night actions occur then.
4) All living players with PTs may communicate in them at any time.

Night Rules

1) The Mafia kill is factional. Any mafia may perform the kill, they must designate who they kill. This is the only action that mafia member may take that night. Submit kills in PT.
2) Any conflict of night actions will be resolved by following Natural Action Resolution.
3) Night actions may be submitted at any time after the day starts and before night deadline. No late actions will be accepted.
4) VLA players are expected to submit their night actions before they go on VLA. Nights will not be extended for VLA. Players with factional abilities may submit any member of their faction to use those abilities, but the specific player has ultimate authority to their own actions if there is a disagreement.

Posting/VLA/Replacement

1) Post substantial content every 48 hours. Failing to do so will result in a prod.
2) After too many prods (assume 3) you'll be automatically replaced.
3) You have 24 hours after being prodded (48 on weekends) to pick up prod and post. Failure to do so means you'll be replaced
4) Replaced players may not post for any reason. I will PM you to tell you you're replaced. Feel free to yell at me there.
5) VLA shall be announced in thread (banners/signatures are not sufficient). If your VLA exceeds one week or at moderator discretion, you may be replaced instead.
6) Replacements will receive all mod communication and role PMs their slot received prior to me announcing their replacement. They will be allowed into any PTs (if applicable) at that time. Original players will lose access to those same PTs.

Voting and day end

1. Voting shall use an automated Vote Counter. Please post all votes inside vote tags or bold tags on their own line. I will make an attempt to accommodate nicknames and other names, but this is a courtesy and not necessarily going to occur. It is your responsibility to make your votes readable to the counter, not visa versa.
2. Attempts to manipulate the above (such as fake voting, fake hammering, etc.) may result in the moderator manually counting the vote and finishing the lynch. It
will
also result in a warning or a force replace. Please don't manipulate the vote friends.
3. The votes become locked when there are more votes on a player than half the living players (ex 5 if 8 are alive, 3 if 5 are alive), or at least half the players vote to no lynch (ex 4 if 8 are alive, 3 if 5 are alive). At this time you may talk freely until I lock the thread, but no votes can be changed.

Modkill

1) Any attempt to use mod communication (including role PM structure, time stamp, etc.) to determine alignment will result in immediate modkill. No warnings. Don't do it. Don't try it. I will happily answer all questions about what you can say in PM.
2) Any issue that can be resolved without modkill will. Modkill is a last resort to preserve game integrity.
3) Modkill will never be beneficial to your faction. Don't game the system.
4) Do not beg for modkills, replacements, etc. I am not a player in the game and will answer only questions about the actual mechanics of a game. Anything else can be addressed in PM.

Sample VT PM:
You are town. This is your role:

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Townie

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Post Post #34 (isolation #2) » Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:41 am

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Official Vote Count


Kappy
(3): Sickofit1138, Mizzytastic, Chumba
Sickofit1138
(1): qubixes
Chumba
(1): Kappy
Mizzytastic
(1): Persivul

Not Voting
(7): ShadyHood, karnos, Snork, Dierfire, MechaGoomba, species, Saru

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

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: (expired on 2016-06-22 15:59:51)
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Post Post #37 (isolation #3) » Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:46 am

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In post 36, Persivul wrote:
mod, my vote is on sick

Please review the rules of the game

In post 1, GreyICE wrote:
Voting and day end

1. Voting shall use an automated Vote Counter. Please post all votes inside vote tags or bold tags on their own line. I will make an attempt to accommodate nicknames and other names, but this is a courtesy and not necessarily going to occur. It is your responsibility to make your votes readable to the counter, not visa versa.
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Post Post #77 (isolation #4) » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:55 am

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Official Vote Count


Persivul
(2): Kappy, Sickofit1138
Sickofit1138
(2): qubixes, Persivul
Chumba
(1): MechaGoomba
karnos
(1): Mizzytastic
Kappy
(1): Chumba

Not Voting
(6): ShadyHood, karnos, Snork, Dierfire, species, Saru

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Deadline
: (expired on 2016-06-22 16:00:07)
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Post Post #325 (isolation #5) » Sat Jun 11, 2016 6:58 am

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Official Vote Count


Persivul
(4): Sickofit1138, ShadyHood, Saru, karnos
Kappy
(4): Chumba, Persivul, Dierfire, MechaGoomba
Sickofit1138
(3): Snork, species, Kappy
karnos
(2): Mizzytastic, qubixes

Not Voting
(0):
None.


With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2016-06-22 15:59:49)

Chumba is being replaced

Sorry for the lack of vote counts, work has been kicking my ass. Hopefully fixed.
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Post Post #334 (isolation #6) » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:25 am

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Shady Hood is being replaced
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Post Post #335 (isolation #7) » Sat Jun 11, 2016 9:31 am

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The Bulge replaces Chumba
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Post Post #347 (isolation #8) » Sat Jun 11, 2016 11:18 am

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Sickofit1138 is being replaced
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Post Post #444 (isolation #9) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:51 pm

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JohnnyFarrar replaces ShadyHood. Please give him a warm welcome and my thanks for replacing in!

Still searching for a replacement for Sickofit.
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Post Post #445 (isolation #10) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 3:54 pm

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Sickofit1138
(3): Snork, species, The Bulge
karnos
(3): Mizzytastic, qubixes, MechaGoomba
Persivul
(2): Sickofit1138, JohnnyFarrar
Kappy
(2): Dierfire, Saru
The Bulge
(1): Persivul
MechaGoomba
(1): karnos

Not Voting
(1): Kappy

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: (expired on 2016-06-22 16:00:51)
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Post Post #447 (isolation #11) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:36 pm

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Wingback replaces Sickofit. Another round of thanks! Happy to have you with us Wingback.

All slots are now full.
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Post Post #448 (isolation #12) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:37 pm

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Post Post #449 (isolation #13) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:37 pm

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Post Post #450 (isolation #14) » Mon Jun 13, 2016 4:37 pm

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Official Vote Count


Wingback
(3): Snork, species, The Bulge
karnos
(3): Mizzytastic, qubixes, MechaGoomba
Persivul
(2): Wingback, JohnnyFarrar
Kappy
(2): Dierfire, Saru
The Bulge
(1): Persivul
MechaGoomba
(1): karnos

Not Voting
(1): Kappy

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2016-06-22 16:00:15)

No prods required
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Post Post #495 (isolation #15) » Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:52 pm

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karnos
(5): Mizzytastic, qubixes, MechaGoomba, Persivul, Kappy
Wingback
(3): Snork, species, The Bulge
Persivul
(2): Wingback, JohnnyFarrar
Kappy
(2): Dierfire, Saru
MechaGoomba
(1): karnos

Not Voting
(0):
None.


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: (expired on 2016-06-22 15:59:27)
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Post Post #514 (isolation #16) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 6:19 am

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Mizzy and Snork are being replaced
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Post Post #520 (isolation #17) » Wed Jun 15, 2016 7:53 am

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Masquerade replaces Mizzytastic. Thank you Masquerade!
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Post Post #551 (isolation #18) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:24 pm

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Species is being replaced


Please welcome Mathblade, who replaces Snork. Thank you wonderful replacements! This game wouldn't be possible without you.
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Post Post #553 (isolation #19) » Thu Jun 16, 2016 2:31 pm

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karnos
(4): qubixes, MechaGoomba, Persivul, Kappy
Wingback
(3): Mathblade, species, The Bulge
Kappy
(2): Dierfire, Saru
MechaGoomba
(1): karnos
Persivul
(1): Wingback

Not Voting
(2): Masquerade, JohnnyFarrar

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Deadline
: (expired on 2016-06-22 16:00:11)
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Post Post #594 (isolation #20) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 6:19 am

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MagnaofIllusion replaces species. Thank you Magna! And with that it looks like we're full up again.

Note: Magna is on weekend VLA, so the prod timer won't start ticking for him until Monday.
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Post Post #598 (isolation #21) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:37 am

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Post Post #600 (isolation #23) » Fri Jun 17, 2016 7:37 am

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karnos
(5): qubixes, MechaGoomba, Persivul, Kappy, Dierfire
Wingback
(3): Mathblade, MagnaofIllusion, The Bulge
MechaGoomba
(1): karnos
Mathblade
(1): Wingback
Kappy
(1): Saru

Not Voting
(2): Masquerade, JohnnyFarrar

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Deadline
: (expired on 2016-06-22 15:59:48)
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Post Post #705 (isolation #24) » Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:16 pm

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JohnnyFarrar
(4): Persivul, MechaGoomba, Wingback, Masquerade
Wingback
(2): Mathblade, The Bulge
Mathblade
(1): karnos
karnos
(1): qubixes
Kappy
(1): Saru

Not Voting
(4): Dierfire, MagnaofIllusion, Kappy, JohnnyFarrar

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2016-06-22 16:00:10)

TheBulge has been prodded.
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Post Post #752 (isolation #25) » Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:28 am

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MathBlade
(3): karnos, MechaGoomba, Masquerade
JohnnyFarrar
(3): Persivul, Wingback, MagnaofIllusion
Kappy
(2): Saru, Dierfire
Wingback
(1): The Bulge
karnos
(1): MathBlade

Not Voting
(3): qubixes, Kappy, JohnnyFarrar

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2016-06-24 16:02:39)

The Bulge is being replaced. In light of the high number of replacements, I'm arbitrarily extending the deadline two days. I hope no players or factions feel hurt by this, I feel it's simply fair to give everyone time to catch up and discuss. I really didn't plan to have seven replacements on day 1.
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Post Post #792 (isolation #26) » Tue Jun 21, 2016 6:15 am

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JohnnyFarrar
(5): Persivul, Wingback, MagnaofIllusion, qubixes, MechaGoomba
MathBlade
(2): karnos, Masquerade
Kappy
(2): Saru, Dierfire
Wingback
(1): The Bulge
Dierfire
(1): MathBlade

Not Voting
(2): Kappy, JohnnyFarrar

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline
: (expired on 2016-06-24 16:01:27)

I'm still looking for a replacement for Bulge.

Kappy is on VLA
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Post Post #865 (isolation #27) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:11 pm

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Still looking for a replacement. I'm going to throw up a VC when I get a chance, but consider this extended for another 48 hours. I won't extend it a third time, there has to simply be the general structure of a mafia game here, instead of an indefinite thread of death. If you would rather have an indefinite extension, please PM me. I don't want a discussion in thread, because people may try to read alignment information from it, so I am not paying any attention to whatever people say in thread regarding extensions (or really any other topic regarding moderation)
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Post Post #867 (isolation #28) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:17 pm

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Official Vote Count


JohnnyFarrar
(5): Persivul, Wingback, MagnaofIllusion, qubixes, MechaGoomba
MathBlade
(2): karnos, Masquerade
Kappy
(2): Saru, Dierfire
MagnaofIllusion
(1): MathBlade
Wingback
(1): The Bulge

Not Voting
(2): Kappy, JohnnyFarrar

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Deadline
: (expired on 2016-06-26 15:59:55)

Wingback and Saru have been prodded

Kappy is on VLA
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Post Post #869 (isolation #29) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:19 pm

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Firebringer replaces The Bulge! Thank you so much Firebringer! And with that, that's the final extension of the day.
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Post Post #873 (isolation #30) » Thu Jun 23, 2016 1:27 pm

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In post 872, Firebringer wrote:
@Mod do we get anymore extensions or is the deadline correct in vc
Current deadline is correct. The most current deadline can always be found in the first post of the game (it's required by the VC software).
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Post Post #931 (isolation #31) » Fri Jun 24, 2016 10:02 am

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JohnnyFarrar
(7): Persivul, Wingback, MagnaofIllusion, MechaGoomba, Saru, karnos, Masquerade
MagnaofIllusion
(1): MathBlade
Dierfire
(1): qubixes
Kappy
(1): Dierfire

Not Voting
(2): Kappy, JohnnyFarrar

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

JohnnyFarrar has been lynched! He was...
Townie.

Night action submission deadline: (expired on 2016-06-26 14:00:00). At that time all night actions will be locked and resolved based on last targets received (see rules in post #1 for details if you wish more)
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Post Post #932 (isolation #32) » Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:40 pm

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Night has passed in our sleepy little town.


Wingback has died. He was a
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Post Post #1095 (isolation #33) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:22 pm

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(3): karnos, Persivul, MagnaofIllusion
MagnaofIllusion
(2): Masquerade, MechaGoomba
qubixes
(1): Saru
Dierfire
(1): Firebringer
karnos
(1): MathBlade
Saru
(1): qubixes

Not Voting
(2): Dierfire, Kappy

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Post Post #1097 (isolation #34) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 2:32 pm

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Kappy is being replaced.
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Post Post #1107 (isolation #35) » Tue Jun 28, 2016 6:26 pm

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Titus replaces Kappy! Thank you Titus! Another great replacement
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Post Post #1137 (isolation #36) » Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:18 am

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Persivul is being replaced.
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Post Post #1193 (isolation #37) » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:11 am

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MathBlade
(4): Persivul, MagnaofIllusion, Dierfire, karnos
Dierfire
(2): Firebringer, MechaGoomba
qubixes
(1): Saru
MagnaofIllusion
(1): MathBlade
Saru
(1): qubixes

Not Voting
(2): Masquerade, Kappy

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: (expired on 2016-07-11 16:00:09)

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Post Post #1230 (isolation #38) » Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:30 pm

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MathBlade
(4): Persivul, MagnaofIllusion, Dierfire, karnos
Dierfire
(3): Firebringer, MechaGoomba, MathBlade
qubixes
(1): Saru
Persivul
(1): Titus
karnos
(1): Masquerade
Saru
(1): qubixes

Not Voting
(0):
None.


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Post Post #1318 (isolation #39) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:12 pm

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Dwlee99 replaces Persevul. Huge thanks to Dwlee!
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Post Post #1320 (isolation #40) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:16 pm

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Dierfire
(5): Firebringer, MechaGoomba, MathBlade, Masquerade, Saru
MathBlade
(4): Dwlee99, MagnaofIllusion, Dierfire, karnos
MechaGoomba
(1): Titus
Saru
(1): qubixes

Not Voting
(0):
None.


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Post Post #1375 (isolation #41) » Thu Jul 07, 2016 6:34 am

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Dierfire
(6): Firebringer, MechaGoomba, MathBlade, Masquerade, Saru, karnos
MathBlade
(2): MagnaofIllusion, Dierfire
Masquerade
(1): Dwlee99
MechaGoomba
(1): Titus
Saru
(1): qubixes

Not Voting
(0):
None.


With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Dierfire was lynched. He was a
Townie
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If you have not yet posted after the downtime please confirm by PM that you are on site. Night deadline will be extended until I have confirmation that all players have returned after the outage.


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Post Post #1376 (isolation #42) » Mon Jul 11, 2016 6:39 am

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qubixes has been killed. He was a
Townie
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Post Post #1510 (isolation #43) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:41 pm

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MathBlade
(2): karnos, Saru
Dwlee99
(2): MagnaofIllusion, Titus
karnos
(1): MathBlade

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(4): Masquerade, Firebringer, MechaGoomba, Dwlee99

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Post Post #1534 (isolation #44) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:29 am

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Dwlee99
(5): MagnaofIllusion, Titus, MechaGoomba, karnos, MathBlade
MathBlade
(1): Saru

Not Voting
(3): Masquerade, Firebringer, Dwlee99

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Post Post #1535 (isolation #45) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:30 am

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DWLee99 was lynched. He was a
Townie
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Post Post #1536 (isolation #46) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:45 pm

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Mechagoomba the
Town Motion Detector [mason]
has died

Saru, the town
Odd-Night Mason recruiter
has died


A victory condition has been achieved!

The Mafia, consisting of Mathblade, Karnos and Magna of Illusion has won!
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Post Post #1537 (isolation #47) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:48 pm

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Setup was simple:

Titus - Town Jailkeeper
Saru - Town Odd-Night Mason Recruiter
Mechagoomba - Town Motion Detector

MagnaofIllusion - Scum Jailkeeper Enabler
Mathblade - Scum Goon
Karnos - Scum Neapolitan
(Scum daytalk - effectively a scum PR)
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Post Post #1538 (isolation #48) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:52 pm

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Mafia PT - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=66834
Mason PT - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p7980485
Dead Thread - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p7994818

I'd like to extend my official apology to SickofIt. He never actually flaked or requested replacement. Instead the (now banned) ShadyHood thought it would be a good idea to PM him to try and collaborate with him outside of thread. This triggered the force replacement of both slots when he reported it to me. Essentially, he was punished for doing the right thing. I still feel pretty bad over it.

Every other replacement was a legit flake and ShadyHood can burn in the hell of the permabanned for all I care for that jerkass but sickofit did not replace of his own free will.

Anyway, well played mafia.
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Post Post #1540 (isolation #49) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:55 pm

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In post 1433, Titus wrote:Magna is town. I am town. Math is town. Karnos is town.That's a whole lot of town.
This was pretty tragic, I admit.
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Post Post #1541 (isolation #50) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:56 pm

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Like I was wondering if it was a ploy to avoid the night kill and you were just randoming your reads. I think Mathblade would have been lynched today, if the day had occurred, but it wasn't.

I'm surprised Saru thought that there would be a second investigative role since his was superbly powerful. Much less recruiting Karnos
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Post Post #1546 (isolation #51) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:03 pm

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Anyway, night actions

N1:
Saru recruits Mecha (Town, succeeds)
Kappy jails Karnos
Karnos investigates someone (I forget, irrelevant)
Magna kills Wingback

N2:
Titus jails dwlee
Karnos investigates Masq (vanilla)
Mathblade kills Quibixes

N3:
Saru recruits Karnos (fails, scum, Saru dies)
Karnos kills Mechagoomba
Titus jails Masquerade
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Post Post #1550 (isolation #52) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 8:15 pm

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In post 1547, MathBlade wrote:N1 was Wingback N2 Quibixes if memory serves N3 Mecha

Sorry Mecha and Dwlee <3
You're right I wrote Wingback twice didn't I?

Wingblade - so nice we killed twice!
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Post Post #1570 (isolation #53) » Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:58 pm

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Mason recruiters always die if they target scum.

As the review committee said its effectively a weak neighborizor. I think it's slightly clearer (and doesn't out the entire masonry if the recruiter targets scum) but it's a fine +1 role.
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Post Post #1594 (isolation #54) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:16 am

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Thanks for replacing in!

I thought you played really well. Your styles clashed extremely, but it managed to work out as kind of town-on-town, and you basically managed to distance very well while still pivoting onto town lynches seamlessly. I could feel you grinding your teeth a little over the traitor spec, but I'm only ever going to quote the normal games wiki modding a normal game, no matter what role I'm asked about. The answer "I'm not getting 4 scum in a mini normal past the review committee in this lifetime" probably would represent moderator bias ;)

You did guess that the strongest scum power role by far was daytalk and that your role was more of an emergency outlet. I thought it was a bit sad that you got it since I intended that the Enabler would be bussed if things went really wrong (there's some ugly scenarios where you can't safely shoot the claimed masons at all because lol jailkeeper which would be horrible if there was 3 masons alive) but you basically leveraged it into an informed goon and just won through better dayplay.
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Post Post #1595 (isolation #55) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:21 am

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Also people love their information roles. Based on the two normal games I've run I probably have a mod meta of giving the strongest information roles to scum (Mafia Watcher and Mafia Neapolitan). So now you have mod meta for the next normal I run. Or... not. The last time they lynched the Watcher, correctly guessing it didn't fit in with the game. I kind of expected the Neapolitan to suffer the same fate (I thought it might be claimed as Vanilla Cop, which is far weaker) but the masons trusted it so much they figured he was confirmed town, so hey.

I should do a full writeup of how people played, but you were still the strong backbone of the scum team. The masons were nearly willing to gamble on recruiting you.
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Post Post #1597 (isolation #56) » Mon Jul 18, 2016 6:26 am

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Rarely. Open setups are essentially a town power role in the same way that daytalk is a scum power role. You can never claim Neapolitan in an open version of this setup for instance, and things like "Motion Detector" are confirmed town. So when you turn a closed setup into an open setup you are typically making it town sided.
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