Mini 1794: Gunslingers Ahoy! {Game Over}

[RachMarie]

Reading up

[RachMarie]

Site was down for about 3 days, now that is it is back up will catch up with my reading up

[RachMarie]

@mod can we get vote counts periodically? I am trying to read up and have gone through 17 pages without a single vc since the initial OP Also can you update the OP with current replacements, please and thank you

As for the players, feel pretty good about accountant, chuma going at it being tvt. So both go in the town pile.

Not impressed with mc but want to finish reading up leaning scum for now

feel pretty good about tbg being town so he goes in my town pile.

BTW yes town are supposed to focus on finding scum, but they are also supposed to be transparent and share their reasoning so you BOTH are correct.

more coming up

Meanwhile until I start seeing some vote counts,
UNVOTE:

[RachMarie]

On page 11. Funeral tomorrow for grandfather in law, then travel home later. All while fixing the tire that got blown on the way down here.

Long story short, catchup to surely take a couple of more days.

Sorry for your loss and looking forward to that catchup, you are the only one here I think that I have played with before, so want to get your slot pegged asap.

[RachMarie]

Sorry to do this but I've just found out I'm going to be wayyyy too busy this summer for mafia.

VOTE: Unvote

Mod please replace me out.

oh no good luck and hope to play with you in another game. Your reads have been helpful.


BTW Im reading this slot as town

[RachMarie]

Ok still feel like chuma is prob town, even with some of her oddly worded posts, I can't see scum being that brazen this early on in general. There are a few players I know who could pull it off, but they are not in this game.

The self vote was lame, DON'T DO THAT However, I can definitely see why he seems scummy to several people, and he seems that way to me even if he did self vote. He could have thought he was hammering since there have not been a lot of vote counts.

Then when the pressure is off of him, he puts his vote on the tea wagon which I am not getting here, I think I want to see more from tea before I peg him. Hes a nullish read for me atm and since hes a low poster, with people wagoning him, makes a good place for a scum to jump on in the middle somewhere. The tea wagon feels very much like a counter wagon to BlackStar

VOTE: Blackstar

[RachMarie]

CC is going to be replaced and is a non entity at this point.

zefiend is a town read along with accountant, chuma and TBG

tea is nullish for me atm want to see more

same with transcend

looking forward to the replacement for CC since that slot really needs someone posting.

IaI is a townlean, but need more

mc and bs are my scum reads atm

Dunn is prob town

[RachMarie]

@mod sorry you have been having issues just my frustration trying to play catchup, especially with the site going down in the middle of it.

@ Black

mainly meta at this point, its why I want to see a lot more from the slot.

[RachMarie]

Transcend will either start posting more or become yet another replacement, I just do not see much that is scummy or towny for that matter, thats why its a null slot for me, why do you think he is scum, other than his almost no posts? Or is he more of a PL for you?

[RachMarie]

@dunn its a town lean based on meta from playing games, and is not super strong, which is why I want to see more from him.

Pedit

um yeah lets be nice to the mod eh? Mods are not scum. Procedural things is one thing but scumhunting or voting the mod is kinda bad juju

And this is a rather fast moving game. So I can understand it getting away from someone, especially since some players vote in the middle of a line of text instead of making their vote on a separate line. BTW some mods will not count votes like that so its a good idea to get in the habit of voting on a separate line, just fyi.

[RachMarie]

13 players means no more than 3 scum or 2 scum plus a sk in general in mafia games.

Is there a possibility one of the low posting or non posting players is scum, yes. But there is also a good chance they are town and just lurking or have flaked and will be replaced.

I would rather at this point focus on players we have actual content and interaction with and see who is the scummiest of that bunch. It is far more likely to give us info, especially on D 1 when we have little to go on. Too many times I have seen town go after lurkers or flaked out players on D1 to find out they were town.

[RachMarie]

Most of a wagon or counter wagon is going to be townies, scum cant get someone mislynched without townies, I think Black is the scum on the wagon. So that does not negate the idea of tea being a counterwagon.

[RachMarie]

@ chumba
I missed your questions will ISO you and find them.

@MC the only meta I stated was on IaI, there is not much there which is why I placed a town LEAN, based on meta. I still want to see more from him. I just do not have much else for his slot at this time to go on, I did not do a meta read on the rest since:

1. There is more here for most of the players in THIS game.
2. I prefer to do meta on players I have played with in other games, I find when you do meta on players you have never played with before, it is not as beneficial. Meta is not a tool I use lightly.

[RachMarie]

Just woke up here let me have some coffee and I will dig through some of IaIs games and show you

[RachMarie]

Most of the time replacing out is a null tell, folks. People DO have lives outside of mafia, after all. I have seen both scum and town replace out of games, and yes the site does not look at all kindly on strategic replace outs.

[RachMarie]

What odly worded posts? Also I'm curious who these others are

And why are accountant and brawl town?

Found it.

The oddly worded posts is not a put down BTW, its just in reading some of your posts they seemed worded in a way that I had to reread them to parse them, so it stood out.

Which others in particular? I did try to read everyone in the game, though some slots are difficult due to little or no posting.

Both accountant and TBG have contributed a great deal to the game, their posts push for activity, state their reasoning for their votes and neither seem to be trying to blend in. Neither have shown major concern when thought of as scummy and instead focused on scum hunting and reads of the other players. Neither have backed down and try to be conciliatory when challenged by other players. There are a few players I would look at more skeptically if they did this so early in the game, like Nacho for example, who has been known to bus his partner on D1, but none of those players are in the game. I think they are town. I think you are letting a bias toward TBG skew your view of them. However I do not see that as scummy, I think you are town also.

Pedit hes replacing out, that is a null tell, lets see what his replacement has to say, there is more than enough to look at in the ones who HAVE posted regularly in the game.

[RachMarie]

Games with IaI

Dr Who Mafia
IaI Scum
(I was the primary half of the hydra Twin Flames with my ex Nobody Special) We were town
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=29725

Gonzo Mafia
IaI Town
I was also town
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=26830

You Can Be Anything II
IaI Town
I was one half of the sk team with The Way it Ends
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=59268

It is a light town lean read, mainly based on the fact he let us know what is going on in his life, instead of just lurking it out. If I had not played with him before in several games, it would be null. He tends to be a fairly active poster no matter what his alignment. So his lack of posting here is not a scum tell.

Still think we need to focus on players who have posted more at this point, not all scum lurk after all. Lynch all Lurkers is more likely to hurt town than scum. I have done it too at times when life was hectic. Did not mean I was scum.

It is D1 we need as much info as possible with our lynch today. Who is the scummiest of the more active players is where we should be looking.

[RachMarie]

So many replacements in this game

[RachMarie]

@Black

I am not talking about never lynching someone who is a lurker, I am talking about an absolute policy of ignoring anything someone who is actively posting no matter how scummy, in favor of lynching ALL lurkers first then and only then focusing on active players,

With so many lurkers and replacements, I feel that kind of policy here would be detrimental.

[RachMarie]

Day 1 ends on the 28th, not sure why we're talking about quicklynching someone who's inactive

Not sure since we have not had a vc in several pages, but I believe the biggest wagon was on BlackStar who is active, with a counterwagon on tea who is far less active.

Which one do you think is more likely to give us info?

Which do you think has been more scummy?


Keeping my vote on Black

[RachMarie]

umm Black, why do you think I am pushing so hard on the whole active vs inactive thing?

I am trying to get them to see that since many do think you are scum, you are a better lynch than having their votes on inactive people they think might also be scum.

[RachMarie]

Votecount

Blackstar

(4/7)

: Accountant, RachMarie, chumba, TehBrawlGuy
Transcend (2/7): Dunnstral, Derek12
chilledtea (1/7): I Am Innocent
RachMarie (1/7): KickAssAndGiggle
Accountant (1/7): Transcend
Currently not voting (4): MURDERCAT, chilledtea, zefiend, BlackStar

ConvergentConclusions is being replaced by KickAssAndGiggle! Transcend has also requested to replace out.

We have 2 votes on transcend who is replacing out and down to 1 vote on the counterwagon on tea from someone who is still playing catchup and admits they may have to replace out. KAG just replaced in and has to work on catching up to speed and the vote from that slot is from way back in RVS with nothing following it. Accountant, who has been read as town by most of the players, not just me, is being voted by transcend who is replacing out. Then we have 4 votes not votin, and a couple of those have not been super active.

My concern is if we do not start consolidating a bit, and wait til May 28th, we could end up with a NL on D1 and that is really bad juju. I do not want to see that happen.

If we had a fairly active players with maybe one or two lurkers/replacements, we could take it right up to a couple days before deadline no sweat, but with this many lurkers/replacements I am a bit concerned if we leave it to the last minute.\

Pedit make that one vote on transcend and one on mc now.

[RachMarie]

This is where I'm at right now, I'm missing a scum probably, but yeah.

[TehBrawlGuy]
[Chumba]
[BlackStar, Accountant, Dunnstral]
[Transcend, Derek12]
[RachMarie (NightmareGaunt), I Am Innocent, KickAssAndGiggle (ConvergentConclusion)]
[chilledtea, zefiend]

Your 3 most scummy players are lurkers or non entities waitint to be replaced? Really with all the pages and pages of posts we have?

Why do you have trans and derek in the middle while tea and zefiend at the very bottom?

And why on earth is CC anything but totally null? And why do you have KAG as ranked higher? KAG is CC's replacement.

[RachMarie]

I am shaking my head here KAG has not even posted once since replacing in for CC how can you have him ranked as anything but null even more null than some of the others?

[RachMarie]

Black and mc are still my strongest scummy reads

[RachMarie]

@Dunn,

No clue you did not give much detail.

[RachMarie]

No I saw your vote, I was more focused on scum hunting.

Not defending tea, saying I see more scummier players (ie Black and mc)

[RachMarie]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=21405

Newbie 1222

I knew Ghost dude was guilty, I knew if we did not lynch him, or even if we did, I would die in the night, being the cop (which is why I went ahead and investigated Ghost.) Yet we could not get him lynched, and could not get Elmo Teh Azn lynched either, because Hiplop did not get back in time, nor did anyone else not voting already for Elmo. I have also seen this happen even on D1, just have not found the game yet.

So yeah I can see it happening. We have the time here to consolidate before the last bit of time of the day, so there is no need to take it to almost deadline and hoping we get the numbers at the last minute.

Just because we have the number of days available to us, does not mean it takes all of them to get it done, there is a balance between quick or derp lynching too early and waiting til the last minute.

[RachMarie]

Not saying lynch today, saying we need to get some consolidation, our votes are all over the place. Right now most of the people are focused ONLY on the low posting or no posting getting replaced slots. Meanwhile we do have posts from Black that are scummy, and posts from mc that are scummy, why are we not looking more at them?

[RachMarie]

Today is pretty hectic going on the paratransport bus to wound care then over to Walmart to do a bit of shopping then home will post more tonight

[RachMarie]

Sorry to see you go IaI hopefully we will play together again in another game

Feel good about KAAG's "ketchup" posts, good enough to put him in the town pile

[RachMarie]

Tea's "ketchup" posts also feel better. still would like to see more from him, but prob town.

still feel good about where my vote is

@ Kuroi

I have your pred in the town pile, but I am curious why you have both mc and black as town reads? Why do you have Dunn and Derek as scum reads? And how come you have no read on me yet? I am a fairly active poster after all, and most everyone else has some kind of read on me by now?

[RachMarie]

ask me questions TBG, happy to clarify anything you don't get.

I have nothing to hide.

[RachMarie]

That post is not about me, it is about clarity so that town can get on the same page and find scum. Scum want to cause misdirection and ambiguity.

[RachMarie]

Pants dude did.


Pedit

Speaking of misdirection... Scum tries to make it about me instead of clarity, why does that not surprise me

still happy with my vote on Black

[RachMarie]

I understand you are tunneling on TBG, chumba, but if he was not playing the game, who would you look at as scum? I think you are tunneling on town player, and the back and forth tween you and him has felt very much t v t to me. How do you feel about Black? How do you feel about mc? Can you see either of them as scum, if say TBG flipped town or was not in the game?

[RachMarie]

Ok I can see mc

but why do you think accountant is prob scum? I think she (I think she is a she no gender is listed), is town, in fact she is one of my strongest town reads.

It can take a while to get into the swing of things here in this site, hang in there and dont make a decision on the site just based on one game.

[RachMarie]

YAY Mollie ♥

Yeah Black and mc are most likely scum

At least in my world.

[RachMarie]

Black has played the woe is me self vote game. He also seems more concerned with keeping himself from being lynched than actually finding scum. Most of his scum reads fit in the you see me as scum so you are scum, and actually doing some OMGUS as well.

MC coasts a lot. He seems to be more concerned with who other people find scummy than being transparent to the other townies. Hes often trying to please others and backs off on things if he sees a lot of heat.

The read on Kuroi is mainly on his pred still.


Pedit Im trying to, you ninja'd me

[RachMarie]

I have accountant as town her play feels strongly town she has pushed for info and stood against players just trying to go the easy route and lynch the lurkers, and only lurkers. For example, your slot was pretty inactive until now. Like me accountant pushed to look at the players who have been posting regularly. Most of the players were pushing for just lynch all lurkers, including Black, who wants to lynch most players as long as its not him.


Pedit

Accountant talks, I talk, Dunn talks, mc talks, and believe me mollie talks. The non active players are getting replaced by more active players so that is not an excuse Black.

[RachMarie]

Are you really calling me and mollie inactives?

[RachMarie]

You just said the inactives are being replaced by inactives.

I replaced an inactive

Mollie replaced an inactive. True she just replaced in, but her posts already show more activity than several of the other players who were inactive. My point is you wanted to lynch tea because you saw him as a lurker. Since then he has posted more. You moved on but never really cleared him from being scum. And he was the counterwagon to YOURS.

[RachMarie]

There is lurking and then there is just plain inactive at that time it looked likely tea would be replaced. And in the meantime we had Black pushing the counterwagon to HIS wagon, not because tea was scummy, but because tea was not active. That is the difference. It did not feel like frustrated town with a lurker and seeing him or her as scum, it felt more like eek they are going to lynch me I better push a cw fast.

[RachMarie]

Votecount

Blackstar

(3/7)

: Accountant, Derek12, BlackStar
MURDERCAT (1/7): zefiend
NightmareGaunt (1/7): ConvergentConclusion
chilledtea (1/7): I Am Innocent
TehBrawlGuy (1/7): Chumba
Derek12 (1/7): TehBrawlGuy
Accountant (1/7): Transcend
Currently not voting (4): MURDERCAT, Dunnstral ,chilledtea, NightmareGaunt

RachMarie will be replacing NightmareGaunt. ConvergentConclusion is being prodded. They have 24 hours to respond.

Votecount

Transcend

(2/7)

: Derek12, TehBrawlGuy
chilledtea

(2/7):

I Am Innocent, Dunnstral
Blackstar (1/7): Accountant
MURDERCAT (1/7): zefiend
NightmareGaunt (1/7): ConvergentConclusion
TehBrawlGuy (1/7): Chumba
Accountant (1/7): Transcend
Currently not voting (4): MURDERCAT, chilledtea, NightmareGaunt, Blackstar

@mod can we get vote counts periodically? I am trying to read up and have gone through 17 pages without a single vc since the initial OP Also can you update the OP with current replacements, please and thank you

Apologies, I'm busy during the morning and afternoon, so when I went to bed, went to school, and came back, the game absolutely exploded. I'll try to keep up.

Votecount

chilledtea

(3/7):

I Am Innocent, Dunnstral, BlackStar
Blackstar (2/7): Accountant, RachMarie
Transcend (1/7): TehBrawlGuy
NightmareGaunt (1/7): ConvergentConclusion
TehBrawlGuy (1/7): Chumba
Accountant (1/7): Transcend
Currently not voting (4): MURDERCAT, chilledtea, NightmareGaunt, zefiend

ConvergentConclusions failed to respond to his prod, so he's going to be replaced. Zefiend has requested to be replaced, so he's also going to be replaced.

Time has been extended to May 28th

There Black see Wagon on you, Wagon on Tea picks up steam and Wagon on you goes down. So yeah no BS there, Tea was your counterwagon.

[RachMarie]

Yeah Mollie Chumba has mentioned others, but she really wants to lynch TBG with fire and brimstone.

I even tried to get her to see she was death tunneling too much.

Yeah I am probably a bit rusty and clearly worded what I was saying badly. But just because we disagree on some of our reads does not mean we are not of the same alignment. I still do not see tea as scum. I definitely do not see accountant as scum.

Maybe I am tunneling too much on Black but his play just feels like its all about him and not the town.

Considering the time that is left, I will take a closer look at trans/pants, because the worst thing for town on D1 is to not have a lynch that is bad juju. I will admit I am not that impressed with how pants pops up periodically and pokes his head out of the hole like a groundhog.

As for you being skeptical of me, that makes me feel better about your town read. I get suspicious of someone just coming in and immediately giving me a strong town read. Have ever since my first game on site Newbie 1206, when meta dude was so strong on his town read on me. So yeah I feel good about my town read on you mol.

Pedit yeah my read on kuroi is mostly because I had a town read on his pred. I will ISO him and take another look at him. Still zefriend seemed so town to me

[RachMarie]

Mollie good luck on that, though you probably will do a better job than I did.

Still why are you so sure that Black is town? Seriously he cant stand any wagoning on him and pushes anyone to get the wagon off of him?

[RachMarie]

wait what? Lemme check that I was in that game I believe. I love the Hobbit.

[RachMarie]

what? you have been asked for reads and claim

What is this nonsense post?

INTENT TO HAMMER PANTS DUDE

ok dude last chance, and I will give you a bit of time here before hammering, but I want to see a real read post not nonsense about bees

[RachMarie]

how about the cliffs notes version

you know like

person A scum
person B town

and so on down the list, you can fill in the rest later but no reads and just get it later does not make me feel good about you dude

[RachMarie]

Umm yeah dude lol

I gave intent to hammer, I was giving him time to respond, I did not quick hammer him

No I never said I did not care about trans/pants I said I did not have enough on said player slot.

It was tea that I felt was most likely to be town and was being slammed on activity, oh yeah especially right after a major wagon on Black.

As for the noose around Pants neck he put that there himself. I was trying to give him time to catch up, but that post about bees was not a catch up it was a f u town I am not giving you anything to help find scum. He then followed it up by saying oh will give reads later and did not even give a short cliffs notes version.


Scum would have hammered no intent given duh.

[RachMarie]

umm jee

how about a quick reads list

just name and either scum or town r

how long does that take? 5 minutes?

here let me show you

Mollie town
Dunn town
Kuroi/Zefriend slot town mosly on the pred.
Black Scum
MC scum
Accountant town
Derek dude hmm need to ISO him hes getting lost
Pants Scum
TBG town
Chumba town

Try doing something like that dude. I am a slow typer and it still took little time

[RachMarie]

Read my list Dunn

[RachMarie]

In 5 minutes I did a reads list and we can't even get that much out of Pants

Why should I not consider him scum.

[RachMarie]

and you wonder WHY I want him lynched?

I can read Pants as scum and still feel that Black and Mc are scum too

[RachMarie]

Simple

I know that Mollie is a good player, and better at scum reading usually than I am. I usually get 1 of 2 or 2 of 3 scum correct, there are times she has named all of the scum, along with one or two townies getting mislynched. So I took another look at Pant's ISO, Plus that stupid bees post was such a middle finger at town that I got annoyed. Thought he needed to be pushed even harder, and I was right, his posts since I did intent to hammer feel like squirrely scum.

There is a difference tween lurking or flaking out and ACTIVE lurking just trying to stay under the radar, and hope it all passes you by. Pants is actively lurking, then when pushed he is refusing to give town ANY info at ALL just silly posts about bees and oh I will get you some reads later... not even a short list which as I proved took all of a few minutes to do.

[RachMarie]

@Dunn

Umm wait you really think as scum I would bus BOTH my scum budz, dude I dont do that, I rarely bus at all and only if I have no choice in it. Most players on site are much better than I am, so yeah not worth the potential town credit to bus in my case.

Also I have never been in a game where all the scum are on the wagon EVER. Scum don't do that they spread the love around so its less likely people will connect them. Scum would push different wagons and try to keep us from lynching at all on D1. Scum do not all pile up on one wagon. I have not seen that, so if you know of a game where all the scum were on the same wagon this close to a lynch please, share with me.

Now you want to see a good scum bus check out Nacho, he hard busses his scum budz like mad, even bussed me and got me lynched when I was the scum PR.

I dont bus much and certainly would not bus someone as active as Black is,

Why are you scum reading tea BTW?

[RachMarie]

I have to agree with Black on this, he is not acting like a good townie should. He is acting like caught scum who has no clue how to get himself uncaught.

I am going to get some work done the day has slipped away and come back. If I do not see something substantial from Pants I will hammer.

(Newsflash I do not expect more from Pants, but it gives the rest of you a chance to post info to help town in the later days).

[RachMarie]

he claimed VT he did not give reads. A townie would do both so his info can be added to the rest of the town and their info to find scum.

[RachMarie]

uggh

Seriously Pants, I come to check on the game and you have been lynched and you are STILL on this kick of not giving us info. not even just a short list of names and either town or scum.

If you were not already lynched I would hammer dude.

[RachMarie]

@ Dunn

What will you do if you are wrong? And you could be wrong you know.

[RachMarie]

Kaag I forgot you were in this game

BTW I am town reading you as well so add that to my cliff notes reads list I posted to show Pants it can be done in a few minutes

Pedit

@ Dunn can you point to me a game where a lynch of a town player had all 3 scum on the wagon? I really would like to see that, since my experience has been at least one on and one off the wagon. Also would love to see a lynch of a scum player that had ALL his scum budz on the wagon. I dont think it happens.

[RachMarie]

I can see having Black on a vig list, if there is a vig, I can even see tea, since he has not been super active as a vig kill, but why KaaG?

[RachMarie]

Boys boys (and girls) you are all pretty.

Can we focus on the game stuffs? We do not know when the mod will lock the game and end twilight.

[RachMarie]

and what pray tell does that have to do with THIS specific mafia game, Chuma?

[RachMarie]

oh yeah I could see arc, love the girl, but she does go nutso when she is town and is often mislynched usually for doing crazy fake claims.

wait a min wasn't I scum in xmen, I dont think I bussed him?

[RachMarie]

whoops got it confused with xenoblade game.

[RachMarie]

Votecount

Pants98

(6/7)

: Dunnstral, KickAssAndGiggle, Blackstar, chilledtea, MURDERCAT, pirate mollie
Blackstar (3/7): Accountant, RachMarie, TehBrawlGuy
TehBrawlGuy (1/7): Chumba
MURDERCAT (1/7): Derek12
Derek12 (1/7): KuroiXHF
Currently not voting (1): Pants98

Time Until Deadline

3 Days, 23 Hours, 35 Minutes [UTC - 6]

@ Black and Chuma please don't replace out We have had so many replacements already

[RachMarie]

oops sorry about posting the last vc I was trying to find out how long it had been since we had one.

[RachMarie]

BTW Accountant did switch over to Pants, but TBG did not. MC Unvoted, and then after Pants was back to L-1 when Accountant voted for Pants, MC hammered (no relation to the rap star lol)

[RachMarie]

@ mollie? You really think TBG or accountant over tea? for an investigative role, if there is one? I would have figured tea would be a better bet since there is more suspicion on him, and his activity is not super high.

[RachMarie]

Well it is good for town if an active player replaces into a flake out slot, but not so good for town if someone who is fairly active replaces out and might be replaced by someone who is not as active though.

It is only D1 if you really feel that strongly about your tunnel reads, stick around and push them some more. Or look at new info that comes in and see if that changes your reads. I have not given up hope on my Black tunnel,and I will admit I tunneled pretty hard on him today.

[RachMarie]

Mostly that we did not lynch with fire her primary scum read which was TBG.

[RachMarie]

I will ISO but it looked like MC hopped off and accountant hopped on.

I am finding it frustrating not having more vote counts more often sigh

[RachMarie]

VOTE: pants

Ok you are right Dunn I missed this one.

So someone else must have unvoted or accountant would have hammered?

[RachMarie]

yeah thats why I asked her to look at something other than TBG it felt like she was rather biased based on her view of the player and the interaction between her and him felt more likely to be t v t like a lot of froofroos are.

[RachMarie]

meh I was doing ISOs to try to figure out the vc since its been like almost 20 pages since we had a VCm give me a break here Dunn

[RachMarie]

ahem... Don't quit your day job just yet, KaaG

[RachMarie]

I think MC is definitely the Town's MVP in this game. With so much other headbutting, he really is the one who managed to get town to lynch the last two scums

uggh it was PAINFUL having a cop guilty and being dead and watching you all dance around town reading tea

I still would have died but on night 2 instead, and ya all would have lynched tea D2.

KaaG if you are still around dang you are good

GG and most of you I would definitely be happy to play with again

[RachMarie]

Sorry for your losses, chumba.

You were tunneling pretty hard on Titus though even after you got to the dead thread and found out SHE was town. Granted SHE was also tunneling pretty heavily on you as well.

I do think a really BIG part of why we won in the end, was because of MC. Really.

Mollie I love you girl ♥

[RachMarie]

yep Infin

[RachMarie]

Believe me I was sitting in the dead thread Dunn going wtf guys I HAVE A COP GUILTY ON TEA Why are you going after Dunn?????

[RachMarie]

Nero you are not that hard to read for me.

I knew you were the other scum before Kuroi said anything about Kaag being the one to figure out I was the cop.

[RachMarie]

Nero gets really tunnelly and very active when he is town, even trollish at times.

He is more laid back and lurky and staying under the radar, just posts enough to keep from being really lurky as scum

[RachMarie]

LOL I meant from the dead thread of course, Most people in the dead thread thought Titus was the remaining scum, I read the whole game even though I could not post all the way to the end. I so wanted to pop in after they lynched you and said YES lol


But I waited

[RachMarie]

I AGREE with our mod on that it is supposed to be a GAME after all.

[RachMarie]

math you are cool, even if you saw your sis as scum that happens, a lot of times town is just fumbling around in the dark, which is why it is very important for town to work with each other and not tear each other down so much.

[RachMarie]

The scum would have deserved the win if they had gotten it, they did a lot of good things in this game.

[RachMarie]

Like killing the cop on NIGHT ONE because she was not protected by the DOC

[RachMarie]

I was teasing hence the

But yeah follow the cop is always good if you can figure it out, Like I said being doc really sucks, and it is one of my LEAST favorite roles. My first ever game I was a doc and in the end I cost us the game

Yeah definitely MC deserves the MVP in this game.

[RachMarie]

Hey Black sorry about being wrong about you dude, hope to play with you again some time.

[RachMarie]

It was fun playing with you tea, even though had I not been killed I SO WOULD HAVE gotten you lynched

[RachMarie]

thanks and I do love your avi

[RachMarie]

I still love you Mollie HUGS ♥