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Post Post #105 (isolation #0) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:17 pm

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i typed a lot of stuff and it disappeared
that's a sign that i should have nothing to do with this
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Post Post #106 (isolation #1) » Wed Feb 25, 2015 10:26 pm

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a summary:
- organize the articles in a clear manner
this will make things easier to find and browse through, and will make obvious what articles are missing or could be added

- standardize article features
right now when an article link is clicked, even if the article has a lot of content, you can't really expect anything about the sort of information will be present, how it'll be organized, or how well-connected by links it'll be to other articles, etc.
developing or sharpening and then implementing standards for various sorts of articles (eg setups, roles) will markedly improve the wiki

if you do both of these then everything left to do is creative
actually producing articles that fill informational holes in the wiki
i believe more of an emphasis should be placed on connecting/basing articles on "researched forum history" or something than on the writer's intuition, but meh
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Post Post #110 (isolation #2) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 7:48 pm

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It's probably not worth it. Anyone new coming to the wiki is going to pass through www.mafiascum.net.
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Post Post #112 (isolation #3) » Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:27 pm

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Well it's definitely not in the way.
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Post Post #119 (isolation #4) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:23 pm

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This is that threat.
Thread!
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Post Post #120 (isolation #5) » Mon Mar 02, 2015 4:26 pm

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Also, here's an idea.

There are apparently stable templates around of someone of the best Scummer wikis around (like UN's). If you made some page working as a guide to making your own wiki (which there is a lot of general interest in doing) which points to one of those templates, the world would be a clearly better place.
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Post Post #130 (isolation #6) » Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:27 am

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you
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Post Post #144 (isolation #7) » Sat Apr 18, 2015 7:21 pm

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if i could had a way to handle arbitrary differences like that!
so much would be easier :(
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Post Post #162 (isolation #8) » Fri Jun 05, 2015 3:32 am

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In post 160, wgeurts wrote:What do you mean by "search by setup"?
If you mean by searching ratio of roles it would have to be done by adding that info to all the pages.
Maybe I could make a tag template to do this?


couldn't you just have another set of categories
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Post Post #206 (isolation #9) » Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:35 pm

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yes
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Post Post #208 (isolation #10) » Wed Aug 05, 2015 6:01 am

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The God Fairy wrote:Yep. That's all it takes.
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Post Post #321 (isolation #11) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:15 am

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so it would be sort of trivial for me to generate for every scummer without a wiki page (and some volunteers with one) who has played a game in the last, say, 5 years their
own
generic wiki page
these would include profile information such as their join date, title and location, maybe
but most importantly it'll also include a well-formatted table of their game history as recorded in the game archives, providing a clearer picture of their place on this site than, say, a page that is just nothing

is this worth doing?
if so, might anyone offer any help with choosing a format for these game histories that looks okay for short and long lists of games, alike?
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Post Post #324 (isolation #12) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:58 am

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In post 322, callforjudgement wrote:I really like the idea of autogenerated player pages that list game history. (I assume you've got a game history database somewhere to draw it from?)
each list mod keeps one up
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Post Post #327 (isolation #13) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:46 pm

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the current tables actually do list player roles as well as other really useful information and the code to generate wiki pages would actually be really simple

anyway i guess ill take this all as a cue that the project is worth doing
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Post Post #329 (isolation #14) » Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:34 pm

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do i really need to go through the extra step of converting it?
why can't i organize the data according to the template in the first place?
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Post Post #331 (isolation #15) » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:11 am

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i'm having trouble following, i think because i don't understand how mediawiki works

how about i derive show you an example excel spreadsheet (of your games!) and from there we chat about i can convert that into whatever format you have in mind?
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Post Post #333 (isolation #16) » Thu Jul 14, 2016 10:39 am

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Mini Theme
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p7223303

Large Theme
useless

Mini Normal
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=29549

Large Normal
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=37208

Micros
useless

Open
useless

Newbie
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... me/History

maybe it's pointless if i can only do Newbies, Mini Normals, Large Normals, Mini Normals and Mini Normals?
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Post Post #415 (isolation #17) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:37 am

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all but the modding articles on the mafiawiki are kind of bad
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Post Post #416 (isolation #18) » Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:39 am

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ok that might be a bit too strong
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Post Post #445 (isolation #19) » Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:33 pm

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In post 441, mastina wrote:Those are all.

Common mafiascum things.
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Post Post #464 (isolation #20) » Tue Mar 27, 2018 7:17 am

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In post 461, Mathdino wrote:Image

This, but with "Beginner's Guides to Mafia".

There are at least 6 or 7 articles ostensibly written as a guide to newbies, but the combined amount of content is insane, and the wiki doesn't appear to particularly endorse any of them. Seeing as the only way to really find them is to be searching through the wiki yourself, I don't think many newbies read these guides or get much out of them until they're skilled enough that they no longer need the guides.

Besides, ICs basically repost their own guides in every newbie game anyway.

How do we resolve the 15 competing standards?
just leave them alone?
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