Mini 1800 - Game Over

[Saru]

Thoughts on Dwlee/Pers, Saru?

Feel his slot was/is scummy. The timing of your vote on him makes me feel he might just be town. I didn't really take his jump from 1353 to 1356 to be scummy. Seemed consistent with a replacement's thought process. His frustration town read of MathBlade makes sense coming from a replacement as well. His recent posting has me scratching my head, he might want to explain that when/if he comes back. And he also might want to read up. Overall, the slot read is scummy but the person in the slot hasn't been all that scummy. Not my biggest priority in terms of a lynch.

[Titus]

You are in the running for scum now Saru.

Pretty sure scum is in dwlee fire Mecha saru and only one is wrong.

[karnos]

I don't know, but why would Persivul replace out as scum? I kinda see his replace out as frustrated town that just doesn't want to deal anymore.

In open 640 Persivul directly asked the mod to replace another player or he would replace himself out. In that game, Persivul was scum. So there is clear precedent for the idea that Persivul would replace as scum, the answer is a resounding YES.

Because I tell you right now, I see no reason for Math to tunnel a universal townread to the point where everyone scumreads Math for it when they could just NK karnos.

I was assuming that scum avoided killing me because they thought they could get me lynched, or because they had a roleblocker (though my successful result last night disproved that theory). So I wouldn't say my survival proves anyone's innocence on it's own.

Thoughts on Dwlee/Pers, Saru?

Feel his slot was/is scummy. The timing of your vote on him makes me feel he might just be town. I didn't really take his jump from 1353 to 1356 to be scummy. Seemed consistent with a replacement's thought process. His frustration town read of MathBlade makes sense coming from a replacement as well. His recent posting has me scratching my head, he might want to explain that when/if he comes back. And he also might want to read up. Overall, the slot read is scummy but the person in the slot hasn't been all that scummy. Not my biggest priority in terms of a lynch.

So Saru, you also think Titus is scum but Math is town? Why do you think scum!Titus would pass up a free chance to hammer MathBlade? I just don't buy it. I think you are being naive, or maybe I've been reading you wrong all game.

VOTE: Dwlee99

Dwlee at L-1.

I think this is the best choice of course whether Math is scum or not. Reading through Math's iso, I see little direct confrontation with the persivul slot, and what does exist is largely disagreement about persivul not voting me, and interestingly Math always seemed to read persivul as "obv town", same as Mecha.

Anyone looking at Dwlee's iso can see how he is creating fake excuses and then ignoring them when they don't work out. 1353 Dwlee

"the karnos dierfire associative tells are real af"

obviously implying I am scum with dierfire. After that, I hammered dierfire, and 1356

"I think you might actually be town from how stupid that was."

then 1436

"I agree with lynching cop day before lylo"

1438 a lot of stuff, weird train of thought post, including this piece

"I think if the hammer was scum that means Titus is scum because I remember very clearly in cyberpunk where Titus wanted me to derp hammer diamondsentinel with a sheep vote so I can see her directing that her as well."

and then finally 1482

"Karnos makes sense with titus, math."

It just does not sound like logical progression from a town player. He is implying I'm scum with dierfire, then (pre-flip) he calls me town for making a dumb hammer, and then post-flip shows dierfire to be town, suddenly he doesn't care about associations anymore and I must still be scum, as he suggests "lynching cop". Then he explains his thoughts, which include a gem about how if the hammer was scum, that would make titus scum- great logic, except the hammer isn't scum. And of course there is the note I made above, that Scum!Titus had the perfect opportunity to hammer MathBlade and didn't.

So, Dwlee is scum, I don't see another explanation. I'm torn on MathBlade. There is room for him to be Dwlee's scum partner, or potentially town. If Math hammers here, it doesn't mean she is town.

[Titus]

Karnos, can you give reads supposing Dwlee is scum. Like on everyone.

*hig*

[Titus]

*hug*

[Firebringer]

You are in the running for scum now Saru.

Pretty sure scum is in dwlee fire Mecha saru and only one is wrong.

but Titus, I am town <3

[Titus]

You are in the running for scum now Saru.

Pretty sure scum is in dwlee fire Mecha saru and only one is wrong.

but Titus, I am town <3

Then give me intellectual hugs.

Who is scum?

[MathBlade]

I can go along with Dwlee scum with Karnos.

VOTE: Dwlee99

At work will catch up on big wall posts later.

[karnos]

WHAT

[GreyICE]

Official Vote Count

Dwlee99

(5): MagnaofIllusion, Titus, MechaGoomba, karnos, MathBlade

MathBlade

(1): Saru

Not Voting

(3): Masquerade, Firebringer, Dwlee99

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-07-26 16:00:08)

[GreyICE]

DWLee99 was lynched. He was a

Townie

. Will do the rest when I'm not phone posting.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-07-15 20:00:08)

[GreyICE]

Mechagoomba the

Town Motion Detector [mason]

has died

Saru, the town

Odd-Night Mason recruiter

has died

A victory condition has been achieved!

The Mafia, consisting of Mathblade, Karnos and Magna of Illusion has won!

[GreyICE]

Setup was simple:

Titus - Town Jailkeeper
Saru - Town Odd-Night Mason Recruiter
Mechagoomba - Town Motion Detector

MagnaofIllusion - Scum Jailkeeper Enabler
Mathblade - Scum Goon
Karnos - Scum Neapolitan
(Scum daytalk - effectively a scum PR)

[GreyICE]

Mafia PT - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=66834
Mason PT - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p7980485
Dead Thread - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p7994818

I'd like to extend my official apology to SickofIt. He never actually flaked or requested replacement. Instead the (now banned) ShadyHood thought it would be a good idea to PM him to try and collaborate with him outside of thread. This triggered the force replacement of both slots when he reported it to me. Essentially, he was punished for doing the right thing. I still feel pretty bad over it.

Every other replacement was a legit flake and ShadyHood can burn in the hell of the permabanned for all I care for that jerkass but sickofit did not replace of his own free will.

Anyway, well played mafia.

[Titus]

F. Just fuck me.

[GreyICE]

Magna is town. I am town. Math is town. Karnos is town.That's a whole lot of town.

This was pretty tragic, I admit.

[GreyICE]

Like I was wondering if it was a ploy to avoid the night kill and you were just randoming your reads. I think Mathblade would have been lynched today, if the day had occurred, but it wasn't.

I'm surprised Saru thought that there would be a second investigative role since his was superbly powerful. Much less recruiting Karnos

[Titus]

Yeah..I had a terrible spot there. Won't lie. I had a bad cold and thought Manga was the clear. Then I saw the mistake.

Masons frequently register as scum to me.

I had no clue about mylo.

Basically I thought I had all the information when I had none.

[MathBlade]

F. Just fuck me.

Lol sis if you were looking for crumbs you would have known the entire scum team.

We though you identifying all three of us was a traitor claim. I asked in thread if you were the traitor :$

[MathBlade]

Then in the next post you obvtowned me and kept shopping for mislynches.

We were shocked at a night phase.

[Titus]

No. I just sucked, and was the jailor that you were "derpishly" denying existed.

[GreyICE]

Anyway, night actions

N1:
Saru recruits Mecha (Town, succeeds)
Kappy jails Karnos
Karnos investigates someone (I forget, irrelevant)
Magna kills Wingback

N2:
Titus jails dwlee
Karnos investigates Masq (vanilla)
Mathblade kills Quibixes

N3:
Saru recruits Karnos (fails, scum, Saru dies)
Karnos kills Mechagoomba
Titus jails Masquerade

[MathBlade]

N1 was Wingback N2 Quibixes if memory serves N3 Mecha

Sorry Mecha and Dwlee <3

[MathBlade]

Like I was wondering if it was a ploy to avoid the night kill and you were just randoming your reads. I think Mathblade would have been lynched today, if the day had occurred, but it wasn't.

I'm surprised Saru thought that there would be a second investigative role since his was superbly powerful. Much less recruiting Karnos

Like if day would have happened I would have been lynched and Titus would have said known busser and pushed Karnos and seemed insane except the mason fail would have obv scummed Karnos.

So then Magna would have had to win it all.

[MathBlade]

No. I just sucked, and was the jailor that you were "derpishly" denying existed.

Nah thought Mecha crumbed it so I just dropped a hint about role crumbing so Mecha would never vote me.