Gistou (Over!)

[Salt Squad]

I dont think individual vampire is a scum faction.
I think the scan was correct however, and you're using an individual vampire fake claim.

I literally can doing nothing about this and I am town and this feels terrible.

[RachMarie]

Is that it or did you find out who has that in their role PM Wake?

[Luna Fox]

I dont think individual vampire is a scum faction.
I think the scan was correct however, and you're using an individual vampire fake claim.

I literally can doing nothing about this and I am town and this feels terrible.

Don't worry no one likes it when cops get guilties on them and... you kinda need to argue in favor of your win condition and you can't just give up.
I understand the position it puts you in.

[davesaz]

HEY
YOU REALIZE
WE GOT A FACTION COP SCAN ON SS
AND IT SAID A DIFFERENT FACTION THAN WHAT THEY CLAIMED!

So I was trying to follow what you're saying about this.

Did the same person check Faction, Nation, Location on SS, or two different people checked, one using Faction and the other using Nation/Location? Canonical redirect mechanisms would redirect everyone who targeted a given player, so you're asking the probability that the redirect target would match nation/location but not faction?

Also the "faction" result was "isolationist"? That's flat out weird even given the weirdness we've already seen. Any chance your (neighborhood?) faction checker is giving a weird result for lols, to see what happens?

Pedit: damn I type slow.

VOTE: Salt Squad

If it's cult, it's a priority IMO.

[Luna Fox]

Vote: SS

Vote not moving.
Tho if you do flip what you said, i have a feeling of what might have happened in our hood.

[Salt Squad]

Can you guys at the very least let me live for 1 night target a human and make them confirmed town?
Or at least have a confirmed win condition that wins with town.

[Expedience]

To be honest I think that Salt Squad are telling the truth and Luna is just misinterpreting what her result is, or it was redirected, or something.

LLD and RAM are scum though.

[Luna Fox]

Did the same person check Faction, Nation, Location on SS, or two different people checked, one using Faction and the other using Nation/Location? Canonical redirect mechanisms would redirect everyone who targeted a given player, so you're asking the probability that the redirect target would match nation/location but not faction?

The Faction/Nation was a free action, it was used on someone who had already claimed something in the hood by the same person that performed the Faction scan.
Neither the targets nor the actions were outed until Day 2 start.

[Wake1]

Is that it or did you find out who has that in their role PM Wake?

All I was told is that there is a singular entity with that name in the game.

If anyone out there receives other important messages during the Night I need you all to share them so I can tell what's going on.

[Salt Squad]

I get you guys have no reason to assume redirection even though I have been obvious town all game but you guys are shooting yourselves in the foot by lynching me now rather then later.

[Expedience]

Like, "isolationist" might just mean "individual", and things have been been lost in translation.

[Luna Fox]

What if Isolationist is something like a counter cult, and makes ppl individual?
That's like the only theory i can come up from the name of the faction.

[Salt Squad]

All I ask is for 1 night and you can flash lynch me.
Literally I can confirm someone wins with the town.

[Wayward Thinker]

Okay I'm lost then. No idea how to differentiate town via Nation result then, because it's inconsistent.

I agree with this post. I feel like I am unsure of what to do with the information that people post. I guess, I will just make a list right now and hope that it becomes obvious later.

Thats not telling us who are ENEMIES ARE!
That tells us that one faction wants everyone dead.

So is everyone else survivors?

No, I think it means that there are many smaller factions working towards their own goals. I have to assume that factions of mixed type exist too therefore, I do not think it is as straight forward, but that is how I am reading the game.

"Individual" implies no PT. Presumably, the Individual Vampire Faction's only factional PT is the recruit. How does that work; every vampire gets to recruit?

-Nahdia

There would have to be a small number of vampires before the game started with that logic, because otherwise, it would be a mass population of vampires all of a sudden.

Do we know for a fact that Wulden are Scum?

Yes, they're the Dmitri Damanos cult thing (although not necessarily a cult in terms of mechanics) from the flavor.

I believe that we know their faction is scummy at least. However, why would LLD announce she was Wulden. Wouldn't you not do that because they are enemies of the town because they sound scummy by what the intro story says.

Win cons are not supposed to be a puzzle.

Yes, but I feel like win cons are a puzzle in this game. It has been a long time since I played a game that required reading people's role pms to make decisions.

So, like I said, I received a message last Night.

Are you waiting for someone to ask you about it. Then I will? Was your message helpful?

Can't keep up, everyone is so quick
~Suz

[Luna Fox]

I get you guys have no reason to assume redirection even though I have been obvious town all game but you guys are shooting yourselves in the foot by lynching me now rather then later.

>All game
>Might have been culled by a faction that doesnt have culling restrictions.

Tho that Isolationist thing i dont even know what it is.
But considering no one ever answered that i assume it means scum.

[Almost50]

A50 if I was scum why wouldn't mastin give me a scum fake claim.
If I am scum why would I just respond to a fake faction cop allegation by claiming a scum win condition.

how am I supposed to know she didn't? She did give you one for all I know, but you found it more convenient to go another route bc the FAKE CLAIM DOESN'T WORK! << Learnt this first hand.. and more than once! Like th mod would give you a Tracker false claim when there's already a Cop and a Jailer in the setup. Or they may give you a Hider claim when there's already a Commuter and a BG.

Come on, mate. I'm Human and I know I should eliminate non-Humans "hostile non-humans". dram's flip and/or win con do not strike me as "hostile" at all. 3 flips win with the Human race (minor differences may mean anything, including the rivalry between the 3 Heroes Titus' PM referred to), so if 2 of them die (one already did) Humanity is unified under the commandment of one Hero to fight HOSTILE non-Humans. Vampires apparently do not win with Humans.

[davesaz]

This game contains an entity called the

Destroyer of Worlds

.

That's nice, but why did you preface with the "I got a message" thing?
What do you think about it?
Pedit: why do people need to share it with you?

[Luna Fox]

Hi Suzune!

[Salt Squad]

>All game
>Might have been culled by a faction that doesnt have culling restrictions.

Tho that Isolationist thing i dont even know what it is.
But considering no one ever answered that i assume it means scum.

It probably does in all honesty. But I am town so you can stop.

[Wake1]

All I ask is for 1 night and you can flash lynch me.
Literally I can confirm someone wins with the town.

Why do you need one night?

[Salt Squad]

When I flip town flash lynch StormBlade and Wayward Thinkers.

[Salt Squad]

When I flip town flash lynch StormBlade and Wayward Thinkers.

[davesaz]

This forum needs a "submit the damn post and don't show things that were posted inbetween button". Seriously 8 times hitting submit!

[Salt Squad]

All I ask is for 1 night and you can flash lynch me.
Literally I can confirm someone wins with the town.

Why do you need one night?

Because I have an ability that allows me to convert 1 persons win condition to the individual vampire win condition so I can confirm to you all the 1 person wins with town.

[Salt Squad]

Then after I preform my 1 action lynch me.