Gistou (Over!)

[Luna Fox]

If anything, assume a human is scum, and they arent immune to cull, at that point an individual or town aligned race can cull them and convert them to town.
I'd think this is a more townie action, no?

[rb]

Oh shit, yeah. From my Role PM it says I wasn't from Northern Tribes or West Empire, but then I vowed to fight for Humanity regardless (Individual Humans).

I think Eastern Kingdom = CULTkingdom or SCUMkingdom

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

I mean someone must know what this means accoridong to their role pm , eaither the flavor part or the actual role

if its in hands of town we must get a discription of it soon in game. if not it seems its the name of a scum hidden mechinic trigger or simply referring to end game when a new humanity rules (eaither town or mafia (?))

or it simply refers to when all the humans are dead and no humans (vampires , lycans , undead , ...) are reffered to "new human"

is there any human with that wincon ? cuase I feel its something for not humans who must servive till some thing

[Luna Fox]

It is also entirely possible that the humans that are immune to culling are scum, idk.
I think more speculation on that fact is moot right now tho, we'd need more flips.

[Salt Squad]

It is also entirely possible that the humans that are immune to culling are scum, idk.
I think more speculation on that fact is moot right now tho, we'd need more flips.

Titus was immune to culling and was town for sure.

~Bee

[Salt Squad]

I am sad Toog thinks I would honest claim scum.

[rb]

Yeah fuck it, this isn't really helping find scum I guess but you're part of what I want dead Luna. BUT I don't think it's needed to waste a lynch on it and I know that might change since you're not looking like either cult or scum at this juncture...just some weird third-party who won't necessarily help or hinder Town.

Scum potentially in:
Copper
Heartless (not same scumteam as copper though)
LLD
Wayward Thinker

Dunno who else I'd throw in there, this has been really confusing and I probably need to re-read. All I know is I really don't know what to think of Eastern Kingdom yet because we have no info, so those are my scumreads based on actual content, flavour excluded.

[rb]

I mean someone must know what this means accoridong to their role pm , eaither the flavor part or the actual role

if its in hands of town we must get a discription of it soon in game. if not it seems its the name of a scum hidden mechinic trigger or simply referring to end game when a new humanity rules (eaither town or mafia (?))

or it simply refers to when all the humans are dead and no humans (vampires , lycans , undead , ...) are reffered to "new human"

is there any human with that wincon ? cuase I feel its something for not humans who must servive till some thing

I'm betting on it being the blue. I said before it looks like shared-survivor-thing and that they've misinterpreted it as being Town when it's actually not-town.

[Cephrir]

It doesn't tell me who is WITH me or AGAINST me.

If you don't know that then YOU ARE TOWN. Titus & Molla didn't know either (No PT) so they were definitely TOWN. dram had a PT, but that works more like a neighbourhood in normal games because his win con supports both human factions flipped (and any others that didn't flip yet).

How do you know dram had a PT??????

Well technically you claimed somethign ALREADY FLIPPED, after being FACTION COP'd.

If I was scum why would I not use a mod given fake claim. How would I get the knowledge of the redacted part of the Kuroi flip if I wasn't a vampire myself.
Come on Luna

It's pretty obvious this is either true or a mod given fakeclaim and everyone suggesting it's neither can fuck off.

Unvote

If the redirect happened, it means we are for certain there's a Wulden spy in the hood.

That makes a lot of sense to me from a game design standpoint

I'm beginning to wonder if the whole idea behind this game is to teach the town a lesson about loose lips

which i approve of wholeheartedly

No, those are both true. I can't be a serial killer considering you already know I'm either with you or I'm a spy for another faction. Namely, the Wulden faction.

And another Scum Claim! I thought you were UNDEAD like dram was!!!!

No
One
Is
Going
To
Scum
Claim
Holy
Shit
Everyone

Kuroi's PM:

You are an Individual Vampire Doctor.
[REDACTED - FACTIONAL]

dram's PM:

You are an Undead Risen Slave.
[REDACTED - FACTIONAL]

These two players are obviously scum due to the REDACTED - FACTIONAL portion of their PM. The redacted information is almost assuredly factional chat and/or team buddies. Titus and Molla didn't have any such redaction, and both were Humans, so they are almost assuredly town flips. Multi-town game doesn't necessarily indicate that the towns are against each other, even though there flavor might suggest it.

You are woefully, woefully incorrect. But, the fact that you still don't get it is a pretty good indication that the mod should just fucking tell us what is and isn't town instead of pretending it's obvious and we're stupid.

Individual also seems to mean not knowing exactly what your win condition is.

I invite anyone who is "individual x" but doesn't have a wincon of "you win when all threats to the individual x faction have been eliminated" to claim this.

NO ONE SHOULD ANSWER THIS.

Kuroi is definitely scum for more than just the Redacted - Factional portion of his role pm too. Don't forget he claimed Human Doctor before he was lynched.

My theory is that Kuroi incorrectly believed himself to be scum.

Almost50 sounds like he's some kind of non-Wulden scum BTW

Yeah I said that before. We can lynch A50 if you want.

Fact is the 5 people I mentioned need to die.

POSSIBLY not Luna though as I review it. Dram is definitely not town though, I don't think their WinCon is compatible with Titus or Molla's faction.

Someone do correct me if I'm wrong here but I'm pretty sure that it would be mod confirmable that the two compatible wincons here are Titus/Molla.

If you think dram is definitely not town, why isn't LLD, someone who claims to have the same win condition as him, on your lynch list?

[Luna Fox]

Whether it's shared survivor masonry kinda thing, we don't have fake claims, I'd assume if we had we'd been given something like all the "Individuals" we've seen.

[rb]

I'll just let Cephrir catch up before I answer I guess.

[Cephrir]

When I get caught up the rest of the way tonight I will start asking specific questions I just want to make one message very goddamn clear:

Keep it in your pants!!!!

You.

I like you.

[Luna Fox]

That makes a lot of sense to me from a game design standpoint

Yeah... which doesnt help me in the slightest, dam me and my not reading >.<

I think i should just operate as a VT instead of potentially giving more info to scum, and instead claim that im said Faction Cop.

If the redirect happened, it guarantees there's scum in the hood considering i had already claimed this in there early thinking by mistake it was a Masonry.

If the redirect didnt happen SS is scum lying and i just made myself an even bigger target ^_^;;

[Nosferatu]

VOTE: Salt Squad

explain to me how a factional recruit will work with uninformed members in your next post and how is that suppose to mean town or I'm not moving.

~Ice

Everyone in my faction has the ability.
Like it is more of a race thing then anything else I believe.

Did another vampire claim that can corroborate this?

I'm not revealing anything about PR abilities,

b

ut I can check Nations.

Basically, I'm a

N

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rthern Tribes Human

.

Northern Tribes

Other

Hu

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an

Anyone else want to claim something, ladies and gentlemen? Feel free!
(And they call ME king of "unnecessary" RC'ing) << See that Frozen??

Ooh ooh! I have one! Cephrir is a nosferatu!

VOTE: Cephir
voting this before anything else because I know this to be true.

Based on the flavor posts, factions with "individual" prefix have a wincon of eliminating threats to the human treaty, and the other factions have a convoluted web of interactions of what they can win with. Also based on flavor, there are 4 factions (wincons) and then a cult.

Right now, I'm thinking the wincons are the followed:

Humans
Win with humans - those with the individual prefix
50% of players - nosferatu
50% of players - wulden
Cult

Thoughts? I'm trying to figure out where the lycans and vampires will fit in here.

[Cephrir]

all I know is that kuroi was a race detector individual vampire with a recruit function and SS is very likely with them

here's a thought.

if race = alignment, would race cops and faction cops even be distinct things? what would be the point of that? ergo, it's possible for LLD to be town.

[Cephrir]

Oh and _MAYBE_ the Individual Vampires are part of this and can be part of the super-happy-fun-times. MAYBE.

ALL OF THE INDIVIDUAL Xs ARE TOWN JFC

[Cephrir]

Before I forget: LLD, why did you out stormblade's role?

[Cephrir]

That makes a lot of sense to me from a game design standpoint

Yeah... which doesnt help me in the slightest, dam me and my not reading >.<

I think i should just operate as a VT instead of potentially giving more info to scum, and instead claim that im said Faction Cop.

If the redirect happened, it guarantees there's scum in the hood considering i had already claimed this in there early thinking by mistake it was a Masonry.

If the redirect didnt happen SS is scum lying and i just made myself an even bigger target ^_^;;

I think maybe we should just lynch SS. We sorta find a scum either way, and I think the case of them having not really just been guiltied is low as hell.

[Cephrir]

Ooh ooh! I have one! Cephrir is a nosferatu!

Jesus.

What part of outing all the information in the game is difficult for you people?

I'm a fucking individual nosferatu with the same win condition LLD claimed and that's why I believe her.

[Cephrir]

yeah so we now have... 3 race cops out? if anyone thinks those are all straight up cops you're literally stupid.

[Luna Fox]

Ok
Ceph...
Tell me this.
Faction = Win con.
You follow?
There's someone, that is not our faction, but is claiming the same win con as us.
Do you think they are telling the truth?

[Cephrir]

Sure. Why wouldn't they be?

Obviously, that win con could be mod-given as a fakeclaim. But it's not a reason to lynch them, is it??

[rb]

I see.

So two race cops both happened to race-check two players who both happened to be part of the most suspicious races, who both happened to actually be Individual Faction alignments and not actually scum alignments.

Seems legit.

[A Song of Ice and Fire]

Oh and _MAYBE_ the Individual Vampires are part of this and can be part of the super-happy-fun-times. MAYBE.

ALL OF THE INDIVIDUAL Xs ARE TOWN JFC

mastin will you confirm this?

if not then shut up scum or town ; whatever are you <3

[Luna Fox]

If it's true.
Then it makes me happy, because then it means we got more allies outside of our faction.
And LLD would be one.
And so would you.