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Post Post #19 (isolation #0) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:15 am

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VOTE: Chrimi

I tried to pick scum but I returned town.
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Post Post #34 (isolation #1) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:38 am

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Good.

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Post Post #63 (isolation #2) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:52 am

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In post 60, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:This isn't my first game ever, I have an idea of how things go down.

It's just usually I don't feel completely clueless? I'm going to hate myself forever if I force myself into the clueless newbie archetype here because like I have a lot of outside mafia experience lmao

Maybe once I get on a computer and the rush of starting a new game settles down I can try to make sense of this actually fun RVS :p
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Post Post #72 (isolation #3) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:01 pm

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Not posting 15 posts in 1 hour =/= Lurky
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Post Post #76 (isolation #4) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:04 pm

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Like the way giga tried to meta me so early in the game and everybody believed it.
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Post Post #81 (isolation #5) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:07 pm

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Actually if I'm one of the top posters, I am pretty much town because I can't post much as scum.
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Post Post #84 (isolation #6) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:09 pm

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VOTE: gigabyteTrousador
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Post Post #87 (isolation #7) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:13 pm

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In post 86, Vedith wrote:
In post 82, Firebringer wrote:Vedith if you were scum, what would you say to me right now to get me to townread you?
I'm scum! - Give me town cred for fake claiming scum as I'm town!
Scum would never claim scum, therefore he must be town!
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Post Post #102 (isolation #8) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:57 pm

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Nah, I think Vedith is town.
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Post Post #104 (isolation #9) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:58 pm

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Let me guess, you can't fake a town post.
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Post Post #135 (isolation #10) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:25 pm

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gigabyte, I have that strange feeling you're being pretty defensive.
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Post Post #139 (isolation #11) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:28 pm

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but why so early? We're still trying to sort each other and find a good wagon to go along.
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Post Post #144 (isolation #12) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:32 pm

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In post 140, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:yeah i can definitely do this

VOTE: Creature

I really don't crack under pressure that easily (L-4?? really??), I play a lot of face-to-face mafia and I know how I react to pressure. That's why I want to know why Creautre thinks I am?
If you were sane, why would you instantly describe how you play?
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Post Post #147 (isolation #13) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:34 pm

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I don't recommend.
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Post Post #156 (isolation #14) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:37 pm

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In post 150, Chrimi wrote:
In post 147, Creature wrote:I don't recommend.
They already know I'm a PR. I fail to see how claiming will change much. Usually you don't want to claim because you don't want scum knowing whether you're a PR or not but..
Not which PR. Scum don't want to visit some PRs.
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Post Post #164 (isolation #15) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:45 pm

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VOTE: Killthestory
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Post Post #168 (isolation #16) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:50 pm

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Or we could start by KTS who's openly refusing to play the game.
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Post Post #174 (isolation #17) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:59 pm

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Chrimi — 1
Dunnstral — 2
gigabyteTroubadour — 2
Skelda — 4
Charloux — 4
Ümläüt — 5
pisskop — 5
Zachstralkita — 6
cytheflyguy — 6
Creature — 9
Killthestory — 11
Vedith — 12
Shadow_Step — 12
MariaR — 13
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Post Post #181 (isolation #18) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:09 pm

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Could see scum!Charloux choosing a number like 4 (low but not that much).
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Post Post #186 (isolation #19) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:10 pm

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Didn't say town!Charloux wouldn't.
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Post Post #192 (isolation #20) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:16 pm

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lol Skelda can't scum hunt.
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Post Post #193 (isolation #21) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:16 pm

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Tell me how I am being a low-hanging fruit.
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Post Post #238 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:14 am

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VOTE: Shadow_step
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Post Post #239 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:18 am

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Charloux looks town tbh
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Post Post #241 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:26 am

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>> Dunnstral

>> Firebringer

>> Vedith

>> Shadow_Step
>> pisskop
>> Killthestory
>> gigabyteTroubadour
>> Skelda

>> MariaR
>> Charloux

>> Ümläüt
>> Chrimi

>> Creature

>> Zachstralkita
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Post Post #242 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:27 am

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We could already powertown this game.
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Post Post #249 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:41 am

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>> Dunnstral

>> Firebringer

>> Vedith

>> Shadow_Step
>> pisskop

>> Killthestory
>> gigabyteTroubadour
>> Skelda

>> MariaR
>> Charloux

>> Ümläüt
>> Chrimi

>> Creature

>> Zachstralkita
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Post Post #273 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:15 am

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Is this your first time as scum?
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Post Post #290 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:53 am

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Dunn is the usual Dunn.

I think this is town!Fire.

Vedith looks competent town.

I see your suggestion something coming from town.

Charloux is a meta read (he's more focused when he's scum).

Chrimi looks genuine when he commented about being the first in draft order.

I am town surely.

Zachstralkita still looks town.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:54 am

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If you want me to explain why X looks town, I would probably have explained if I knew how to.
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Post Post #295 (isolation #30) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:03 pm

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VOTE: MariaR

Could go with that.
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Post Post #307 (isolation #31) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:20 pm

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In post 304, Skelda wrote:But we aren't lynching Maria just because she isn't someone you know.
Who said I was lynching Maria because she is someone I don't know?

Newbie 1721 (xSoniaNevermind)
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Post Post #320 (isolation #32) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:14 pm

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UNVOTE: MariaR

The last part actually makes me wonder.
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Post Post #321 (isolation #33) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:14 pm

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What do you think about Umlaut?
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Post Post #450 (isolation #34) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:22 am

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VOTE: Shadow_step

Haha
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Post Post #452 (isolation #35) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:24 am

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Still doesn't cancel my vote.
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Post Post #454 (isolation #36) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:26 am

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I think it's just misword, but the post is ridiculous.
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Post Post #455 (isolation #37) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:26 am

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Also, why I am the alternative?
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Post Post #461 (isolation #38) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:49 am

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I am also not a good lynch for today.
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Post Post #473 (isolation #39) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:18 am

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VOTE: Charloux

Actually, unscratch him on my list.
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Post Post #478 (isolation #40) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:17 am

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Since they're most likely scum than others, yes.
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Post Post #480 (isolation #41) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:19 am

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>> Dunnstral

>> Firebringer

>> Vedith

>> Shadow_Step
>> pisskop

>> Killthestory
>> gigabyteTroubadour
>> Skelda

>> MariaR

>> Charloux
>> Ümläüt
>> Chrimi

>> Creature

>> Zachstralkita
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Post Post #481 (isolation #42) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:20 am

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Scratched are my townreads and unscratched are null to scum.
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Post Post #483 (isolation #43) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:24 am

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What do you think about Skelda?
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Post Post #487 (isolation #44) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 7:36 am

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In post 244, pisskop wrote:VOTE: kts
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Post Post #526 (isolation #45) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:48 am

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In post 509, Skelda wrote:Creature's crossed-out lists were bad. They seem so fake and easy to manufacture and I know he kinda explained it, but
his explanation felt lazy
and invented after the fact. And plus he works with my lynch down the line plan.
Exactly, it's a towntell. Only scum bothers explaining the mostly possible.
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Post Post #530 (isolation #46) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 9:51 am

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How it is? A lot of town players get gut feelings on players but can't explain them correctly, while scum has to invent reasons so town can see that player as scum.
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Post Post #551 (isolation #47) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 10:16 am

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Charloux has 4 votes.
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Post Post #575 (isolation #48) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:45 pm

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VOTE: Charloux
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Post Post #576 (isolation #49) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 1:46 pm

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You were hammered, were you town or scum?
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Post Post #710 (isolation #50) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:22 am

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>> Dunnstral

>> Firebringer

>> Vedith

>> Shadow_Step
>> pisskop

>> Killthestory

>> gigabyteTroubadour

>> Skelda
>> MariaR

>> Charloux
(reason stated by giga)
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>> Chrimi

>> Creature

>> Zachstralkita
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Post Post #711 (isolation #51) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:24 am

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VOTE: Shadow_step
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Post Post #712 (isolation #52) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:25 am

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I don't think I am that good, but everybody else has a reason that makes me hesitate to call them scum.
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Post Post #717 (isolation #53) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:31 am

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What about Skelda wagon?
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Post Post #719 (isolation #54) » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:32 am

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In post 716, Charloux wrote:I can see shadow and skelda as scum, but i don't really see Ümläüt as one. Why do you scumread him creature?
He's null to me, but my gut says he's scum.
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Post Post #911 (isolation #55) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:38 am

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"There's so much nonsense, so I'll do absolutely nothing"
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Post Post #912 (isolation #56) » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:44 am

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In post 869, Zachstralkita wrote:due to his aggressiveness
His aggressiveness is a null tell in his meta.
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Post Post #1001 (isolation #57) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 6:24 am

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Yes, metadive me, checking the activity overview is already a good thing.
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Post Post #1020 (isolation #58) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 9:18 am

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I could go with Chrimi, do you think his early drama of being the first drafter was towny?
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Post Post #1023 (isolation #59) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:01 am

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What's the point of being a low-hanging fruit when it's very clear he has a power role?
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Post Post #1118 (isolation #60) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:03 am

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In post 1114, Chrimi wrote:Tfw Shadow_step thinks neighborizer is useless for town, and only useful for mafia for daytalk.

LoL
Do you think it was a genuine townslip?
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Post Post #1119 (isolation #61) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:04 am

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I am lacking lynches.
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Post Post #1120 (isolation #62) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:07 am

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Not up to lynch Chrimi, Charloux and MariaR (not sure in Maria) because of their claims/softclaims.

Shadow_step townslipped.

Dunnstral, Killthestory and Zachstralkita are doing the most to solve the game.

gigabyteTroubador also looks town.

That leaves Skelda, Wake88, Vedith, Firebringer and pisskop.
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Post Post #1121 (isolation #63) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:17 am

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Skelda
Wake88
Vedith
Firebringer
pisskop

Which would you join?
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Post Post #1122 (isolation #64) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 3:13 am

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Post Post #1125 (isolation #65) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:10 am

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Neighborizer is usually a pro-town choice, specially when Chrimi could pick anything, even Roleblocker or Role Cop.
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Post Post #1138 (isolation #66) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:26 am

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Pick a lynch from:
Firebringer
pisskop
Skelda
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Post Post #1141 (isolation #67) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:53 am

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Chrimi — 1
Creature — 9
Killthestory — 11
MariaR — 13
Dunnstral — 2
gigabyteTroubadour — 2

Skelda — 4
Charloux — 4

Ümläüt (Wake88) — 5
pisskop — 5
Zachstralkita — 6
cytheflyguy — 6

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Post Post #1143 (isolation #68) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:54 am

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Chrimi — 1
Creature — 9
Killthestory — 11
MariaR — 13
Dunnstral — 2
gigabyteTroubadour — 2

Skelda — 4
Charloux — 4

Ümläüt (Wake88) — 5
pisskop — 5
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cytheflyguy (Firebringer) — 6
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Post Post #1147 (isolation #69) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:17 am

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If all these votes come from town, I will say nobody has been putting effort in this game and not count to my game history.
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Post Post #1149 (isolation #70) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:22 am

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In post 1148, Charloux wrote:With SO many alternatives.
Who?
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Post Post #1152 (isolation #71) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:27 am

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VOTE: pisskop
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Post Post #1155 (isolation #72) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:41 am

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If I am not just overestimating town, yes.
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Post Post #1158 (isolation #73) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:43 am

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Since when was I lackluster?
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Post Post #1160 (isolation #74) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:45 am

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Post Post #1162 (isolation #75) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:46 am

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In post 1161, pisskop wrote:You make lists.
And I point out what's towny and scummy.
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Post Post #1164 (isolation #76) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:51 am

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In post 1163, pisskop wrote:I wish it was that easy to look town.

have you pressured players?
Yes.
Have you had meaningful interactions?
Yes, not slapfights but yes.
Did you display a distaste of the informal dickery the game has been?
Why am I making lists then?
Have you towntelled?
Like being open with my thoughts?
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Post Post #1166 (isolation #77) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:00 am

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If your definition of transparency is making 5-lines explanations, then that sucks.
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Post Post #1169 (isolation #78) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:03 am

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In post 290, Creature wrote:Dunn is the usual Dunn.

I think this is town!Fire.

Vedith looks competent town.

I see your suggestion something coming from town.

Charloux is a meta read (he's more focused when he's scum).

Chrimi looks genuine when he commented about being the first in draft order.

I am town surely.

Zachstralkita still looks town.
In post 295, Creature wrote:VOTE: MariaR

Could go with that.
In post 307, Creature wrote:
In post 304, Skelda wrote:But we aren't lynching Maria just because she isn't someone you know.
Who said I was lynching Maria because she is someone I don't know?

Newbie 1721 (xSoniaNevermind)
In post 452, Creature wrote:Still doesn't cancel my vote.
In post 454, Creature wrote:I think it's just misword, but the post is ridiculous.
In post 473, Creature wrote:VOTE: Charloux

Actually, unscratch him on my list.
In post 478, Creature wrote:Since they're most likely scum than others, yes.
In post 487, Creature wrote:
In post 244, pisskop wrote:VOTE: kts
In post 575, Creature wrote:VOTE: Charloux
In post 576, Creature wrote:You were hammered, were you town or scum?
In post 719, Creature wrote:
In post 716, Charloux wrote:I can see shadow and skelda as scum, but i don't really see Ümläüt as one. Why do you scumread him creature?
He's null to me, but my gut says he's scum.
In post 911, Creature wrote:"There's so much nonsense, so I'll do absolutely nothing"
In post 1020, Creature wrote:I could go with Chrimi, do you think his early drama of being the first drafter was towny?
In post 1023, Creature wrote:What's the point of being a low-hanging fruit when it's very clear he has a power role?
In post 1118, Creature wrote:
In post 1114, Chrimi wrote:Tfw Shadow_step thinks neighborizer is useless for town, and only useful for mafia for daytalk.

LoL
Do you think it was a genuine townslip?
In post 1120, Creature wrote:Not up to lynch Chrimi, Charloux and MariaR (not sure in Maria) because of their claims/softclaims.

Shadow_step townslipped.

Dunnstral, Killthestory and Zachstralkita are doing the most to solve the game.

gigabyteTroubador also looks town.

That leaves Skelda, Wake88, Vedith, Firebringer and pisskop.
In post 1121, Creature wrote:Skelda
Wake88
Vedith
Firebringer
pisskop

Which would you join?
In post 1125, Creature wrote:Neighborizer is usually a pro-town choice, specially when Chrimi could pick anything, even Roleblocker or Role Cop.
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Post Post #1170 (isolation #79) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:05 am

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And there were more before 290.
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Post Post #1172 (isolation #80) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:09 am

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Most of these justify my reads and progressions.
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Post Post #1240 (isolation #81) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:20 am

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VOTE: Skelda
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Post Post #1287 (isolation #82) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:08 pm

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VOTE: Vedith
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Post Post #1356 (isolation #83) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:01 am

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{pisskop}
{Firebringer, Skelda}
{Vedith, Wake88}
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Post Post #1357 (isolation #84) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:02 am

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Skelda not reacting to a fake hammer isn't AI.
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Post Post #1360 (isolation #85) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:08 am

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If that's what she's doing, she's pretty much screwed if her partner dies.
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Post Post #1375 (isolation #86) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:35 am

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Shadow is town.
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Post Post #1377 (isolation #87) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:38 am

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Post Post #1378 (isolation #88) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:39 am

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Vedith flipping scum makes Shadow pretty much town.
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Post Post #1381 (isolation #89) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:45 am

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Okay, Skelda coming with "Creature continues to be scum" reminds me when I was lynched as scum (when there was another scum left besides me).
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Post Post #1382 (isolation #90) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:47 am

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I don't know what.
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Post Post #1389 (isolation #91) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:34 am

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Who's scum from Dunnstral/Killthestory/Zachstralkita then?
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Post Post #1400 (isolation #92) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:51 am

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The argument of town!Chrimi not picking roles like Doctor or Cop can be countered with scum!Chrimi not picking roles like Roleblocker or 1-shot Redirector to ensure no Cop or Doctor is around.
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Post Post #1412 (isolation #93) » Sat Aug 06, 2016 2:49 pm

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Wake88?
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Post Post #1441 (isolation #94) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:26 am

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Chrimi, vote Vedith.
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Post Post #1447 (isolation #95) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 4:50 am

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1419 is pretty solid.
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Post Post #1463 (isolation #96) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 6:14 am

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I am here.
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Post Post #1466 (isolation #97) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 6:30 am

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Post Post #1480 (isolation #98) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 6:49 am

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The problem is that Wake88 might not happen.
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Post Post #1496 (isolation #99) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 6:58 am

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giga and Chrimi are probtown.
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Post Post #1500 (isolation #100) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:00 am

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Wagons stalling like this could mean both wagonees are town.
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Post Post #1511 (isolation #101) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:05 am

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Too much confbias around these wagons.
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Post Post #1512 (isolation #102) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:06 am

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I'd also lynch KTS
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Post Post #1516 (isolation #103) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:09 am

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In post 1513, Chrimi wrote:
In post 1512, Creature wrote:I'd also lynch KTS
Do you prefer KTS lynch or Wake lynch?
KTS, what do you think?
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Post Post #1531 (isolation #104) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:15 am

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VOTE: KTS
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Post Post #1554 (isolation #105) » Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:26 am

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Charloux is still town, Dunn.
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Post Post #1778 (isolation #106) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:48 am

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>> Dunnstral
>> Firebringer
>> Vedith
>> Shadow_Step
>> Killthestory
>> gigabyteTroubadour

>> MariaR
>> Charloux

>> Wake88
>> Chrimi
>> Creature
>> Zachstralkita
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Post Post #1779 (isolation #107) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:48 am

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Hopefully this is more accurate.
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Post Post #1780 (isolation #108) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:48 am

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VOTE: Firebringer
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Post Post #1781 (isolation #109) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:52 am

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Firebringer/Vedith/Wake88 are the best lynches for today.

Dunnstral and MariaR can be PoE'd later.
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Post Post #1783 (isolation #110) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:06 am

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Zachstralkita at least seems to be serious about his reads.
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Post Post #1784 (isolation #111) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:07 am

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Killthestory's reaction near day end looks town imo
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Post Post #1829 (isolation #112) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:13 am

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So I'll give you a proposal:

Wake88
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Post Post #1833 (isolation #113) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:28 am

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MariaR and Vedith are town.
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Post Post #1834 (isolation #114) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:29 am

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We could lynch Wake88, he's doing absolutely nothing anyway.
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Post Post #1835 (isolation #115) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 10:30 am

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And the "That would be a big mistake..." looks like scum crumbing.
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Post Post #1873 (isolation #116) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:43 am

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I don't have scum reads (though, I scum read my null reads).
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Post Post #1874 (isolation #117) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:46 am

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Should I share the intensity of my town reads?
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Post Post #1875 (isolation #118) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:59 am

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Who I am not townreading: Dunnstral, Firebringer, Wake88
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Post Post #1879 (isolation #119) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:21 am

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In post 1876, Zachstralkita wrote:Creature... can you explain your reads real quick? I'd like to peek inside of your brain.
Dunnstral, Firebringer and Wake88 did nothing that's not easy to fake as scum.

I don't think Dunnstral's reads are even serious.

I can't read Firebringer.

Wake88 has done nothing.
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Post Post #1880 (isolation #120) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:23 am

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Shadow_step townslipped:
In post 1114, Chrimi wrote:Tfw Shadow_step thinks neighborizer is useless for town, and only useful for mafia for daytalk.

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Post Post #1882 (isolation #121) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:34 am

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Chrimi is obvious.

gygabiteTroubador's reaction near the deadline is town.

My mind stating Charloux is just a newbtown.

MariaR's frustation looks genuine.
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Post Post #1883 (isolation #122) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:35 am

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I don't see this coming from scum:
In post 1794, Vedith wrote:I'm not sure if I care at this point.

KTS is a lying fuck here
Giga is a lying fuck

Anyone who was actually paying attention properly in the game can see.
No one wanted to pipe up after KTS's JK claim and no one wanted to hammer (There we people online at the time too).
This shows that people dis believed him and didn't have the bollocks to vote him and that his scum buddies obviously wouldn't vote there.
Giga shit posting as if they know exactly what the scum done and why - Read that part carefully.

Chrimi seems to be the only town here that is actually playing well - The rest of you are just following scum blindly.
In post 1708, Killthestory wrote:vedith is scum.
Waits for responses on votes before voting, to make sure it's all good.

And nice one Dunn at not claiming L1!
VOTE: Vedith

Have fun town, enjoy losing because you guys can't read anything correctly. :up:
I suspect that Wake will be the mis lynch tomorrow from your superb detective skills.
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Post Post #1884 (isolation #123) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 9:37 am

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These are my weaker reads:

Zachstralkita at least seems to be serious about his reads.

Currently seeing KTS as town because of the near-deadline reason.
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Post Post #1898 (isolation #124) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:21 pm

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In post 1883, Creature wrote:I don't see this coming from scum:
In post 1794, Vedith wrote:I'm not sure if I care at this point.

KTS is a lying fuck here
Giga is a lying fuck

Anyone who was actually paying attention properly in the game can see.
No one wanted to pipe up after KTS's JK claim and no one wanted to hammer (There we people online at the time too).
This shows that people dis believed him and didn't have the bollocks to vote him and that his scum buddies obviously wouldn't vote there.
Giga shit posting as if they know exactly what the scum done and why - Read that part carefully.

Chrimi seems to be the only town here that is actually playing well - The rest of you are just following scum blindly.
In post 1708, Killthestory wrote:vedith is scum.
Waits for responses on votes before voting, to make sure it's all good.

And nice one Dunn at not claiming L1!
VOTE: Vedith

Have fun town, enjoy losing because you guys can't read anything correctly. :up:
I suspect that Wake will be the mis lynch tomorrow from your superb detective skills.
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Post Post #1932 (isolation #125) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 4:42 am

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VOTE: Wake88

(gigabyteTroubadour, mark Dunn/Fire/Wake red in your analysis)
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Post Post #1951 (isolation #126) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:25 am

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Yes, though I don't have a meta argument pointing towards him being scum.
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Post Post #1958 (isolation #127) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:30 am

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We could lynch Dunnstral since he's most likely to be a scum PR.
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Post Post #1999 (isolation #128) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:05 am

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VOTE: KTS
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Post Post #2001 (isolation #129) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:07 am

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If there's one scum between KTS/Vedith, it's most likely KTS.
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Post Post #2009 (isolation #130) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:55 am

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I actually wonder why Vedith wanted himself lynched if he's a PR who knows he wasn't jailed.
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Post Post #2019 (isolation #131) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:39 pm

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In post 2012, Vedith wrote:I AM SAYING HE DIDN'T JAIL ME BECAUSE HE IS TALKING BOLLOCKS
I thought you had night info he didn't jail you.
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Post Post #2110 (isolation #132) » Fri Aug 12, 2016 11:58 pm

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If Vedith is scum, it's very likely the two other scum were on his wagon.
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Post Post #2112 (isolation #133) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:48 am

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The day before.
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Post Post #2133 (isolation #134) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:12 am

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Dunn and Fire are doing good at trying to look active without being noticed.
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Post Post #2138 (isolation #135) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:30 am

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Let's do this:

VOTE: Dunnstral
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Post Post #2141 (isolation #136) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:40 am

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Dunn sitting in a comfortable place and deciding which wagon he's joining/wking is also unusual
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Post Post #2145 (isolation #137) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:50 am

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Yes, I think.
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Post Post #2147 (isolation #138) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:54 am

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All game.
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Post Post #2177 (isolation #139) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:09 am

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Him not elaborating anything isn't unusual?
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Post Post #2178 (isolation #140) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:09 am

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Dunnstral + Firebringer + Vedith

This should fit good.
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Post Post #2301 (isolation #141) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:33 pm

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In post 2286, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:Also, Creature, are you strongly townreading anyone, or are all of your townreads (besides KTS and Zach) about the same strength?
Chrimi, MariaR and you.

Others are about the same strength (except Vedith).
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Post Post #2302 (isolation #142) » Sat Aug 13, 2016 11:36 pm

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In post 2287, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:One more question to everyone (but mostly creature): Does Pisskop dying (I don't believe the vig theory so I'm assuming he's a scum nk) indicate that the scumteam didn't think the doc would protect PK, or that they didn't need to look for a doctor?
If they wanted a safe PR kill, they could've gone for someone like MariaR or even you or Dunn (if he's town).
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Post Post #2312 (isolation #143) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:03 pm

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In post 2309, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:But they took a risk and shot someone low in the draft. Doesn't that imply a roleblocker?
Why not doctor?
Also, why did you leave yourself out, you're pretty high on the draft :?
Also likely to be protected.
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Post Post #2318 (isolation #144) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:16 pm

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In post 2315, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:But then do you still then think Dunn/Vedith are scum together?
I could still see them bussing each other.
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Post Post #2322 (isolation #145) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:19 pm

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I could go with Firebringer, I don't want him around, specially during LyLo.
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Post Post #2325 (isolation #146) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:22 pm

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I am also like having too many town reads.

Zach and kraska77 rised in my town reads.

Meanwhile, Dunnstral, Firebringer, Killthestory and Vedith are my lower reads.
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Post Post #2326 (isolation #147) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:22 pm

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I am feeling like Dunnstral will remain untouched the whole game.
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Post Post #2328 (isolation #148) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 1:25 pm

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Like, when I said my thoughts on Dunnstral:

What I expected:

Chrimi: Yeah, he's very different
Zach: Nah, he's probtown
MariaR: I could see him as scum.
Charloux: I don't think he is scum.
Killthestory:
vote: dunnstral


What happened:

Zachstralkita: Opinions on this attack?
Chrimi: Creature is probably town with his flip flop.
MariaR: I am scumreading him mostly, like he doesn't even explain his reads.
Vedith: I wouldn't townread him for that.
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Post Post #2383 (isolation #149) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:53 pm

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VOTE: Vedith

At least this lynch will have information.
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Post Post #2385 (isolation #150) » Sun Aug 14, 2016 2:57 pm

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Also, imo we should start planning a lynch already. I don't want the same thing that happened yesterday to happen today. We already have something to work.
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Post Post #2400 (isolation #151) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:43 am

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Feeling better about kraska's slot
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Post Post #2401 (isolation #152) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:45 am

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Vedith

I don't think I'll sheep you on KTS or giga even if you flip town. You could actually reread the thread instead of using confbias and/or intentionally hurt town for lynching you.
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Post Post #2402 (isolation #153) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:47 am

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Also, it's worth noting that who's suggesting Dunnstral as scum yet never pushing him could pretty much fit as a partner distancing.
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Post Post #2405 (isolation #154) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:54 am

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Oh nice, we're going to discuss how I was supposed to word that.
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Post Post #2406 (isolation #155) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:55 am

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In post 2404, kraska77 wrote:Vediths town this is a bad lynch
Why is shadow not on the table for you creature?
I left him alone because of that townslip, though I am going to re-consider him.
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Post Post #2407 (isolation #156) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 4:56 am

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I could leave Vedith alive, though I don't feel safe treating him as "pretty much town" and I might eventually lynch him anyway.
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Post Post #2409 (isolation #157) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:06 am

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In post 1110, Shadow_step wrote:Role*
In post 1108, MariaR wrote:Also what is. Neighbor thingy do anyway
Targets one person every night, they get an individual PT with that person.

They have day chat, so its a good role for scum if they don't have day talk. For town it's useless.
In post 1113, Shadow_step wrote::facepalm:
Fuck that, checked the OP mafia have daytalk in this setup.
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Post Post #2420 (isolation #158) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:22 am

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lmao

meta me
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Post Post #2421 (isolation #159) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:24 am

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Also, why the fuck I received 4 votes in a short time while I didn't receive any support on Dunnstral?
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Post Post #2422 (isolation #160) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:31 am

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"Nah, this is usual Dunn"
"He's prob town because he says so"
"I am not interested in lynching him today"
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Post Post #2423 (isolation #161) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:32 am

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In post 2413, Vedith wrote:
In post 2402, Creature wrote:Also, it's worth noting that who's suggesting Dunnstral as scum yet never pushing him could pretty much fit as a partner distancing.
Why the fuck did you not push him then? You just said he was scum and that was it.
After town reading him all game, of course.
You even said "Sit down!" when I voted him.
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Post Post #2424 (isolation #162) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:33 am

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In post 2418, Vedith wrote:
In post 2417, kraska77 wrote:Guys
Creature was flip flopping like crazy
Why is he scum
It's different to flip flopping.
He's trying to push lynches on what he has done himself. That's not flip flopping, that's trying to divert attention away.
Meta arguments. What doesn't apply for me might apply for others.
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Post Post #2426 (isolation #163) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:15 am

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Oh nice, everybody disappeared now.
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Post Post #2427 (isolation #164) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:17 am

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Guess the strategy is to delay the wagons as much as possible until deadline is about to hit, so scum can have an easy mislynch.
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Post Post #2428 (isolation #165) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:17 am

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Dunnstral isn't even trying and when questioned about that he still didn't do anything, that's not the town!Dunn I know.
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Post Post #2431 (isolation #166) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:32 am

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In post 2429, Dunnstral wrote:The way your opinion on me has been changing does not resemble town
Because town never changes their mind about someone.
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Post Post #2432 (isolation #167) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:34 am

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Town!Dunn would know I am playing different compared to Mini 1787, so he's pretty much taking opportunity.
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Post Post #2435 (isolation #168) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:59 am

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In post 2433, Firebringer wrote:What is your point?
I see a massive shift in your play as of lately, and haven't pointed it out, why does it matter what Dunn notices but not anyone else?
Anyone can see a shift in your style over last 3 games.
My townplay changes, but my scumplay is always the same.
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Post Post #2436 (isolation #169) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:59 am

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Zach, aren't you noticing how different Dunn is playing?
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Post Post #2456 (isolation #170) » Mon Aug 15, 2016 1:44 pm

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In post 2447, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 2435, Creature wrote:
In post 2433, Firebringer wrote:What is your point?
I see a massive shift in your play as of lately, and haven't pointed it out, why does it matter what Dunn notices but not anyone else?
Anyone can see a shift in your style over last 3 games.
My townplay changes, but my scumplay is always the same.
Your scumplay like where you pushed for my lynch in that other game, but didn't really expect it to go through

Like you're pushing for it now
Yeah, town!me would never see you as scum.
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Post Post #2493 (isolation #171) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:14 am

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VOTE: MariaR

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Post Post #2494 (isolation #172) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:15 am

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At least the one using wiki tells against me isn't town.
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Post Post #2499 (isolation #173) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:34 am

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There's still a chance nobody else decided to pick cop/redirector, so Shadow earned it.
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Post Post #2500 (isolation #174) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:35 am

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MariaR thinks you're town pulling a gambit.

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Post Post #2502 (isolation #175) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:38 am

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Shadow got a guilty on you and apparently he isn't retracting.
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Post Post #2509 (isolation #176) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:07 am

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Well MariaR, if Shadow was really town gambiting, he would've retracted his claim.
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Post Post #2510 (isolation #177) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:07 am

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In post 2507, MariaR wrote:People get banned for fake claiming on this site?
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... ts_as_Town
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Post Post #2518 (isolation #178) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:37 am

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Can we please not lynch Shadow_step?
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Post Post #2539 (isolation #179) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:58 am

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Nah, the only role that can make cop have a wrong result is the 1-shot redirector, which is the same pair as cop.
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Post Post #2540 (isolation #180) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:58 am

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I don't want to lynch a cop claim ffs
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Post Post #2548 (isolation #181) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:03 am

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In post 2543, MariaR wrote:Can I also note I was one of Creature's "hard town reads" and when a cop claims he auto votes me
Congratulations, you fooled me!

Until Shadow came with a guilty on you and I have lot more reasons to trust him over you.
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Post Post #2552 (isolation #182) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:07 am

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Rolecop is a cop that checks someone's role rather than alignment.
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Post Post #2557 (isolation #183) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:15 am

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I didn't obviously.
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Post Post #2560 (isolation #184) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:17 am

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In post 2558, kraska77 wrote:I still don't fucking think Maria is scum
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Post Post #2591 (isolation #185) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:39 am

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In post 2582, Vedith wrote:Can someone confirm if scum can use vig?
Yes, scum-aligned vigilantes may let scum have an extra kill.
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Post Post #2616 (isolation #186) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 6:48 am

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Hey KTS, Shadow claimed a guilty on MariaR and never retracted it.
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Post Post #2716 (isolation #187) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:39 am

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Still support MariaR lynch.
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Post Post #2719 (isolation #188) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:39 am

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Her reads are slowly revealing to be fake.
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Post Post #2727 (isolation #189) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:43 am

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Why everybody thinks Shadow is town faking a guilty?
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Post Post #2728 (isolation #190) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:43 am

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He should've retracted by now if he was.
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Post Post #2786 (isolation #191) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:04 am

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That was good.

If we didn't have a guilty you'd probably make it to endgame.
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Post Post #2787 (isolation #192) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:04 am

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Don't order KTS, please.
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Post Post #2815 (isolation #193) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:34 am

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Anyone up to gamesolve?
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Post Post #2823 (isolation #194) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:39 am

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Skelda
: Vedith,
MariaR
, Zachstralkita,
pisskop
, kraska77, Shadow_Step

Vedith: gigabyteTroubadour, Creature, Dunnstral,
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Off both wagons: Chrimi, Charloux
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Post Post #2830 (isolation #195) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:42 am

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I think Vedith is pretty much town.
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Post Post #2897 (isolation #196) » Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:51 am

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I got a great idea: Let's not tell who Shadow should investigate.

So scum don't have an idea of who to kill.
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Post Post #2947 (isolation #197) » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:48 pm

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I'd go for giga/Dunn/Fire/KTS.

There must have scum on Vedith wagon.
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Post Post #2948 (isolation #198) » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:49 pm

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(that's from D1)
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Post Post #2952 (isolation #199) » Thu Aug 18, 2016 1:57 pm

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VOTE: Killthestore
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