In post 753, Shadow_step wrote:Pot kettle black. Saying i have bad opinions when you yourself hav pathetic ones is rich.
Why is it strange?
You want me to sit on Maria the whole day?
There is clearly no interest in lynching her in spite of her being obvious scum so there is no point in voting her as of now.
You're reasons are terrible.
Of course my opinions are weak, it's early into D1 and I'm still trying to sort everyone out. I'm sure many people are still doing the same, hence why it's so easy for wagons to form in one direction and then another. I have nothing wrong with you calling my opinions pathetic because it's true.
If you mean that they're misguided or bad, then I'd beg to differ. Your Maria read is lazy and is not very open minded. Your comment in
261 wasn't really addressing anything about Maria – you just criticized her without really putting consideration into her motives. Why was it, as you put it, "LAMIST"? What does she gain from posting that, and why couldn't she have written that as town? I did agree with you that her response felt awkward, but after doing a quick metaread of her, that's just how she writes.
378 is an argument that's based off of stereotypes about how you think a townie thinks. People will react differently when pressured, and their alignment is not the only thing that impacts it. I don't know Maria personally, but her posting in this game and her last tell me that it is very likely for her to respond to pressure the way she did regardless of alignment. She didn't understand the arguments against her – how could she attack them? Of course, I'm not denying that this could come from a scum mindset. But you're ignoring the fact that this could just as well be coming from a townie.
If you want to talk about mindsets, what Mafioso is worried about being manipulated? It's the Mafia that
must
manipulate us (this is not a stereotype, unlike you believing that a townie has to fight to the death when being wagonned (which is arguably more of a scum thing to do anyway)), and her paranoia seems to only be focused on that very thing. If anything, the fear of manipulation is a newbie-towntell that I've seen called out several times and correctly. I know that in my first game, I felt it many times, such as when I was used by my IC as bait for a reaction test. Some experienced players can back me up here.
You moving onto Skelda is about as strange to me as Maria's response to calling you LAMIST (which, going back through her ISO, I don't think she even knew what that meant?). You've shown very little interest in Skelda. What, defending her in
301 suddenly means they're scumbuddies? You've said nothing about Ümlaut doing the same. Only now do you bring up a stronger case on Skelda, but it still started from a pre-flip association. If anything, the fact that others have been scumreading Skelda and the fact you've brought nothing to that table besides a pretty lazy association makes me think it's a
little
bit opportunistic.
There are people whose opinions I trust on the Skelda wagon now though, so I'm more willing to hear the argument against him? I've been null-townreading him mostly so I'm not seeing it. Still not fond of Shadow but he's not scumread #1.
