OPEN 649 — PICK YOUR POWER X/Y. EXPERIMENT OVER.

[Chrimi]

None of you pick up your role PMs for days but now that it starts I sneeze and we're already on page six

Holy fuck

Anyways, I'm amazed that picking 1 actually worked. That was a wonderful social experiment.
It just means I'm more gutsy than all of you.

Anyways, I'm now a confirmed power-role so.. Should I claim or something?

[Chrimi]

None of you pick up your role PMs for days but now that it starts I sneeze and we're already on page six

Holy fuck

Anyways, I'm amazed that picking 1 actually worked. That was a wonderful social experiment.
It just means I'm more gutsy than all of you.

Anyways, I'm now a confirmed power-role so.. Should I claim or something?

Now I wish I had lost because. Me being a confirmed power role means I get killed tonight by the scum.

GG boys.

[Chrimi]

I don't recommend.

They already know I'm a PR. I fail to see how claiming will change much. Usually you don't want to claim because you don't want scum knowing whether you're a PR or not but..

[Chrimi]

Me being a confirmed power role means I get killed tonight by the scum.

There are multiple protective roles, aren't you a good N1 target if you're a confirmed powerrole?

Yeah but. Only a few people got roles, and they might've assumed I'd grab a protective role.

Or all the other power roles are scumbuddies and I'm royally fucked.

@Creature Fair point.

[Chrimi]

It's not even that everyone is posting a lot, it's just that there are a couple (few) people who like to make a LOT of one-liners.

On another note, no I'm not going to read those 6 pages of bullshit, so if there's something interesting in there, feel free to bring it to my attention.

[Chrimi]

Didn't say town!Charloux wouldn't.

Oh my god

VOTE: Creature

[Chrimi]

Troubador is town and we're not flipping them

VOTE: Troubador

[Chrimi]

VOTE: Killthestory

lmao get the fuck out of my face peasant. you can't even pretend to want to lynch me with your attitude like that.

IF YOU WANT TO LYNCH ME

THEN YOU BETTER ACT LIKE IT

BE C A SUE I AM

KI LTH ESTORY T

Okay
VOTE: Killthestory

[Chrimi]

VOTE: kts

What the fuck I didn't even know you were in this game

[Chrimi]

its important to have veterans in every game

But I dislike you so much

[Chrimi]

VOTE: Killthestory

I know I'm already voting them but I figured I'd do it again. For emphasis.

[Chrimi]

I feel like maybe I should ask to be replaced or something..

[Chrimi]

Noting that Chrimi was online Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:13 am, though she hasn't posted in 1 day 18 hours.

Again with me having no idea what's going on here because you all post nonsense god damn constantly..

[Chrimi]

Chrimi

So uh

What am I defending against again?

[Chrimi]

I have decided


We're lynching Chrimi today

That's great but

What am I defending myself against again?

[Chrimi]

Didn't we talk about how we weren't going to lynch me because I'm a confirmed power role or?

[Chrimi]

Who do you think a mafia-aligned player is?

Do you have nothing else to say game-wise

Killstory is maf, check my vote

I haven't read 90% of the game because 90% of this game is spammy bullshit thanks to you and a few others, Dunn.

[Chrimi]

VOTE: Chrimi Asking to not be voted just because you're a pr is honestly sad. I don't see town saying this it seems like mafia hiding behind a shield and it makes me sad you would lurk so hard.

I don't think you understand the game.
We talked about the whole me being a bad lynch earlier. You couldn't have possibly missed that.

Who do you think a mafia-aligned player is?

Do you have nothing else to say game-wise

Killstory is maf, check my vote

I haven't read 90% of the game because 90% of this game is spammy bullshit thanks to you and a few others, Dunn.

Man the ad hominem this game.

VOTE: Chrimi

Ah yes, because ad hominem = scum.
Can we lynch killthestory yet or?

[Chrimi]

Also, because Killthestory didn't feel like pointing it out,

I'm now at L-1

If you hammer without intent, you're scum. Thanks.

[Chrimi]

@pisskop looks like I'm lynchbait once again.

Is there a case on me, or was one not even needed this time?

[Chrimi]

I only post high quality posts

/cries because the irony

Only scum lies, right?

[Chrimi]

Please claim.

Waiting for someone who knows what they're doing to state intent, then I'll claim.

[Chrimi]

Please claim.

No need to rolefish until there's intent, hun.

[Chrimi]

I'm Town Neighbourizer, even spelled in the weird European way.

Can we stop being bad players and lynch scum or?

[Chrimi]

Actually, one of the role pms called it neighborizer and the other called it neighbourizer, so. Tbh not sure.

[Chrimi]

can see scum using neighborizer, lynch.

Scum has a reason to choose any role, /even cop/, in order to deny it from town.

Fucking facepalm.

[Chrimi]

If by some miracle Killthestory isn't scum, they have the most anti-town playstyle and are probably hurting town more than scum is. Serious.

[Chrimi]

shut up.

Point proven.

VOTE: Killthestory

Yes I know my vote was already there, just. Emphasizing. Again.

[Chrimi]

Ah yes, four quotes is more readable than one.

@Wake88 Dunnstral already answered.

[Chrimi]

Tfw Shadow_step thinks neighborizer is useless for town, and only useful for mafia for daytalk.

LoL

[Chrimi]

Yeah please enlighten me how it is useful for town please.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighborizer

[Chrimi]

Not up to lynch Chrimi, Charloux and MariaR (not sure in Maria) because of their claims/softclaims.

Shadow_step townslipped.

Dunnstral, Killthestory and Zachstralkita are doing the most to solve the game.

gigabyteTroubador also looks town.

That leaves Skelda, Wake88, Vedith, Firebringer and pisskop.

Nooot sure if I buy the Shadow_step slip. He, in general, seems pretty fake this game but. It definitely makes him less of a viable lynch in my eyes.

[Chrimi]

I'm back.

Had a small emergency and had to v/la

Still not reading the thread though

[Chrimi]

KTS/Dunn seems like a good team to me. :b

[Chrimi]

is he gonna be my healer?

Ya. Don't worry though, if the rest of us are dps then we'll still win

[Chrimi]

HERO'S NEVER DIE!

Aw man. Really glad you're not contributing to all the bullshit that makes me not want to read this thread.

[Chrimi]

Just going to say in advance, I definitely don't approve of the quickhammer.

[Chrimi]

V/LA till site gets its shit together.

Site seems to be working fine for me.

[Chrimi]

V/LA till site gets its shit together.

Site seems to be working fine for me.

I recant this statement.

Site is being slow.

[Chrimi]

scum indicitive behaviors are still scummy even if the usual rules dont appky, because the majority of the time they do and we hold pkayers l to that standard for a reason.

dont let up, becauseif its okay once yoyve set a precident.

also, vote wake

VOTE: wake

He's v/la..

VOTE: Killthestory

[Chrimi]

we need a lynch

VOTE: Killthestory

[Chrimi]

People get scared about quickhammers out of force of habit. Im assuming you know why quickhammers are bad.


Its like a yelow line in the road. People are afraid to intentionally violate that line. Not because the world will end or anything, but out of habit.

I understand why quickhammers are normally bad yes but in this game I don't really get how it's THAT bad

Quickhammers stop important information from being gained for town. Well, important information other than the fact that the hammerer is probably scum.

Pushing a case to L-1, and then giving the lynchee a chance to defend, give reads, claim, etc. is very important for town to gain information. Quickhammering is scummy.

[Chrimi]

you can vote me as many times as you want, it won't change anything.

well, it'll make you look more foolish with every vote, but that's not important to you, it seems.

we need a lynch

VOTE: Killthestory

did you not just read my post?

VOTE: Killthestory

[Chrimi]

scum indicitive behaviors are still scummy even if the usual rules dont appky, because the majority of the time they do and we hold pkayers l to that standard for a reason.

dont let up, becauseif its okay once yoyve set a precident.

also, vote wake

VOTE: wake

He's v/la..

VOTE: Killthestory

are you claiming a discernable difference in his quality or frequency of posting?

No, I just don't particularly enjoy lynching people who aren't here to give us information.

[Chrimi]

If he did rage, you'd be claiming AtE.

VOTE: shadow_step

[Chrimi]

Chrimi, Shadow's a good vote but consider this:

You scumread KTS (not that I agree). Pisskop pointed out the existence (but not specifics) of KTS/Vedith associatives. Vedith is the biggest non-Skelda wagon. Thoughts?

VOTE: Vedith

also @Pisskop we can talk about wake D2 because i'm interested, get off your vanity wagon because it's deadline :C

VOTE: Vedith

If they flip scum, vote KTS with me?

[Chrimi]

Sounds good to me.

Great.

@pisskop Come over to the Vedith wagon. KTS is for dinner tomorrow.

[Chrimi]

If he did rage, you'd be claiming AtE.

VOTE: shadow_step

Is it funny because you know it's true?

[Chrimi]

This didn't cross my mind before but it is completely possible that Chrimi was claiming the PR of her scum buddy who was lower down the order so that she doesn't get lynched. It's almost the perfect claim, no cc.

Um.. Are you stupid, or?

I am a CONFIRMED ROLE. Like, actually confirmed. Why would I bother claiming the role my buddy got?

This is the stupidest thing I've heard yet..

[Chrimi]

If that's what she's doing, she's pretty much screwed if her partner dies.

Also yes, Shadow_step, this would literally mean if my buddy dies I'm immediately outed as well.

You honestly don't think I'm that dumb, do you?

[Chrimi]

If that's what she's doing, she's pretty much screwed if her partner dies.

anything is better than getting lynched day 1 for scum.

Getting lynched day one is much better than guaranteeing that as soon as my buddy is lynched, I lose as well.

[Chrimi]

Um.. Are you stupid, or?

I am a CONFIRMED ROLE. Like, actually confirmed. Why would I bother claiming the role my buddy got?

This is the stupidest thing I've heard yet..

Which is why you had a claim a role.
If you are scum you obviously aren't gonna claim a role like roleblocker which would heavily incriminate you, claiming neighborizer makes sense for scum you.
There is no way, town Chrimi is picking neighborizer.
No way

Um.
What?

Why would I claim a role that is possible another player took, or my scumbuddy's role which would immediately incriminate me as soon as they were caught?

You do realize that's fucking stupid, right? Please tell me you're not serious.

Anyways, to answer your dumb question:

Would it even be a quickhammer at this point? We got Skelda's last words, and I think the people on the wagon intend to stay on it.

VOTE: Vedith

Skelda is scum, if he was town he would have raged about getting hampered so early.

That is what I was replying to. You were saying "If he was town he would've raged!!!" which is fucking stupid. So I said "If he raged you would've claimed he was appealing to emotions". Basically, I was saying you were making claims that he was scummy for reasons that aren't really scummy.

[Chrimi]

Or, more specifically, I was trying to get the point across that no matter what he did you would have called it scummy.

[Chrimi]

Go take your meds, Shadow_edge

[Chrimi]

Here's my reply to your uh... "question"

He wasn't hammered.

[Chrimi]

If Vedith flips scum, then shadow is his partner. His attack on Chrimi feels like him trying to draw attention away from Vedith.
VOTE: Vedith

Here's my reply to your uh... "question"

He wasn't hammered.

But he thought he was, as town it would make sense if he raged because he was quick hammered and was pissed.
As scum he wouldn't bother because there is no point in raging he already has been lynched.

This is just... almost WIFOM level stuff.

Reactions to getting hammered are rarely alignment indicative. Yes, Scum are more likely to say nothing to refuse any more information to town, but..

I've never seen a scum say "Good luck town!" after he's been hammered.

[Chrimi]

But he thought he was, as town it would make sense if he raged because he was quick hammered and was pissed.
As scum he wouldn't bother because there is no point in raging he already has been lynched.

Unless they know it's not a hammer and play on it.
A lot of ifs buts and coconuts.

God dammit

UNVOTE:

I can't unvote one of the only players in the game that is making sense. Sorry gigabyte.

VOTE: Shadow_step

[Chrimi]

EBWOP: I can't vote*

[Chrimi]

It does because almost every player in this game is being toxic and spammy. It's possible we're going to hit page 60 before the end of day one and that's just ridiculous.

I don't want to play the rest of the game like this. And scum at this point has no reason to try making sense, they might as well jump in with the toxicity or lurk it out. So yes, I find you much less scummy.

[Chrimi]

Who's scum from Dunnstral/Killthestory/Zachstralkita then?

First choice Killthestory.
Far second is Dunnstral, though I prefer edge_hog over Dunn.

[Chrimi]

We're lynching two of my only town reads... FML.
VOTE: Skelda

I'd rather keep Vedith over Skelda.

[Chrimi]

UNVOTE: Agh no fuck that

Why can't we lynch somebody scummy. Why are you all terrible town who insist on these shitty caseless wagons. Why aren't we lynching who's pushing these shitty wagons, like Dunnstral or even gigabyte? Bluhhh.

[Chrimi]

I'm going to be online for the next 13 hours, and I'll hammer if I have to so we at least get some information tomorrow.

But I really would much prefer we lynch KTS.

[Chrimi]

Chrimi, vote Vedith.

Why? He's one of the few people not shitposting through the game.

[Chrimi]

Chrimi just vote me.
Skelda and Gigabyte are scum and until I'm lynched they won't be.

If you're town you should be convincing me to jump on the Skelda wagon, which is just as big.

[Chrimi]

Though I can simultaneously understand your frustration with badtown for this game.

VOTE: Skelda

[Chrimi]

VOTE: Wake88

[Chrimi]

People willing to lynch Wake

• 1. gigabyteTroubadour
  2. Creature
  3. Dunnstral
  4. Chrimi
  5.
  6.
  7.
  8.

[Chrimi]

If you're Town, forgive me.

That's good enough of a reason for me.

[Chrimi]

FoS

on the players voting with zero reason. Scum is in there.

Also seriously? You're going to OMGUS us? Fml..

[Chrimi]

My concern with putting Dunn on there is that I don't know if he'll be online.

Wake, my last straw with you was that accidental fakehammer. Consider that my reasoning.

And what votes this game had reasoning behind them? We've had flash wagons popping up again and again, full of naked votes. Is that what happens when scum have daytalk?

Put your vote where your mouth is so I don't have to scumread you as hard anymore.

[Chrimi]

My concern with putting Dunn on there is that I don't know if he'll be online.

Wake, my last straw with you was that accidental fakehammer. Consider that my reasoning.

And what votes this game had reasoning behind them? We've had flash wagons popping up again and again, full of naked votes. Is that what happens when scum have daytalk?

This is Scum. Should I be mislynched,

lynch this

.

Should you flip town, I will happily vote gigabyteTroubadour. Tomorrow.

Also, look at the list. I count four.

[Chrimi]

EBWOP: The second line was meant for @gigabyteTroubadour

[Chrimi]

The problem is that Wake88 might not happen.

It is much more likely to happen if you throw your vote there.

[Chrimi]

Also, look at the list. I count four.

Dunn has not personally asked to be on the list. Meaning he might not be online and we'll end up with another wagon at L-2 that can't be hammered. I'm not allowing that.

The "might not be online" part has some value. The "has not personally asked to be on the list" is just wtf. They're the one that said "we can lynch Wake"

Neither of the two big wagons are scum. Scum is riding in the votepool, happy with either lynch. You should realize that.

[Chrimi]

This is terrible play. Every player is different. As Town I get stronger and stronger as the Days go by, because I have actual tools to work with. I can't work with specualtion, and meta is not reliable. Mislynching me is a mistake.

What the fuck even is this

[Chrimi]

This is terrible play. Every player is different. As Town I get stronger and stronger as the Days go by, because I have actual tools to work with. I can't work with specualtion, and meta is not reliable. Mislynching me is a mistake.

This is textbook Wake, and it makes sense tho.

Ooookay, but who or what the fuck is he responding to?

Also, I scumread the fuck out of Umlaut before the replacement.

[Chrimi]

Chrimi's playing dumb.

FoS.

Oh shut up and go read my meta. Or, wait until after deadline so we don't waste valuable time I guess.

[Chrimi]

The "might not be online" part has some value. The "has not personally asked to be on the list" is just wtf. They're the one that said "we can lynch Wake"

The "has not personally asked to be on the list" part is to ensure that the "might not be online" part doesn't happen. That's what I wrote at the original post, if you scumread Wake and can reliably vote him in 3 hours (now 2 I think), ask to be on the list.

There are four hours left.

[Chrimi]

The thing I really wonder is why there's so much resistance to both Vedith and Skelda that Scum's actually trying to mislynch me. It's both hilarious and obvious. I say bring it.

"so much resistance"

Literally the playerbase has been directly split, almost 7-7 on those two wagons. What resistance are you even talking about?

[Chrimi]

There's 0 resistance to either,

and that's what worries me so much.

[Chrimi]

There are four hours left.

I took away an hour and am severely underestimating the time we have left to make sure we can hammer with a claim and cleanly.

And Wake, I had no reason to vote you until your sloppy fakehammer. If you want to believe that there is scum-based resistance to Vedith, then you should realize I'm the one pushing that wagon.

Vedith. Isn't. Scum.

Neither of those wagons are scum. Neither gets us any real information, as there aren't any real cases on either of them other than "scumm1!! im scumreading them oh my gut mayb ei shouldnt have eaten all that f00d"

That sloppy fakehammer, this reaction, the pushes from us, who actually decides to switch wagons... That's a

lot

more information, regardless of Wake's alignment.

PEDIT: Yes, what Creature said.
PPEDIT: I love you Charloux.

[Chrimi]

Wagons stalling like this could mean both wagonees are town.

Creature is town, guaranteed.

[Chrimi]

Wagons stalling like this could mean both wagonees are town.

This is bad.


For fuck's sake, tell me you guys aren't really lynching Wake.

"This is bad"

How the fuck so? Two wagons, 7-7.. This is CLEARLY indicative of scum not giving a fuck of which one gets lynched.

[Chrimi]

Wagons stalling like this could mean both wagonees are town.

This is bad.


For fuck's sake, tell me you guys aren't really lynching Wake.

"This is bad"

How the fuck so? Two wagons, 7-7.. This is CLEARLY indicative of scum not giving a fuck of which one gets lynched.

Not in all cases.


The lynch you have opted for is a lot worse.

Zach, talk some sense into these fucking idiots.

I'm pretty sure I've been trying to

Generic statements like "this wagon is bad guys" "this lynch is worse guys" "guys this is this no reason needed" are useless.

If you think Wake is town, make a case. You should be able to do it in 4 hours, right?

[Chrimi]

I'd also lynch KTS

Do you prefer KTS lynch or Wake lynch?

[Chrimi]

GUYS 4 HOURS REMAIN! JUST SETTLE ON SOMEBODY OR IT WILL BE NO-LYNCH

I don't love you anymore.

[Chrimi]

The burden of proof is on you. YOU need to put effort in to kill him.

As deluded as town is, I don't think you'll actually get that lynch within the time we have.

Wake is playing like Wake. Wake plays like a brash townie who is sometimes oblivious to things and focuses on certain stuff way more than he should. I detect that from him this game and that's why my read is the way it is.

I won't be voting Wake today.
I'll settle for Skelda or Giga.

The fact that it's 4 hours until deadline with struggle for a lynch doesn't indicate that me and Skelda are town, it indicates that scum are already on me and Skelda is scum.

What do you think about KTS? Both of you.

[Chrimi]

let's get vedith

But he's not scum. Stop fucking shitposting, this is mafia.

[Chrimi]

What do you think about KTS? Both of you.

I'm not against this lynch over a no lynch.

VOTE: Killthestory

Join me brothers. And sisters, too.

[Chrimi]

That accidental fakehammer was scummy but. KTS is still obvscum.

[Chrimi]

I like KTS for town. Rather than scumminess, I think his shitposty style of play reminds me of myself, I guess. Even though I don't like a lot of the shit he says. Scum actually being loud and abrasive is ridiculous when you could just remain in the shadows.

What do you think about KTS? Both of you.

I'm not against this lynch over a no lynch.

VOTE: Killthestory

Join me brothers. And sisters, too.

Holy fuck. You'll just settle for lynching anyone else, huh?

Why didn't we fucking lynch this? ^

Anyone else?

Have you been reading any of my fucking posts Zach?

I've wanted a KTS lynch the entire fucking game.

[Chrimi]

I can agree to almost any lynch, but KTS is a no-go.

Now I really don't love you.

It's KTS or no-lynch. So get your butt over here.

PEDIT: I've been pushing it @Zach. Nobody was really listening. And I wasn't very invested in the game because of all the shitposting. But it looks like some of you are actually paying attention now.

[Chrimi]

That's L-2.

Come on Charloux. Skelda, you too, if you get online in time.

[Chrimi]

I like KTS for town. Rather than scumminess, I think his shitposty style of play reminds me of myself, I guess.

why do you think we're lynching him

Because you guys have been doing dumb shit forever?

You, Dunn, and KTS are all shitposters.

We get it.

[Chrimi]

That's L-1

.

Someone hammer so we can get rid of this scum. I'm not going to sit idly through a game with two stalled wagons on shitty gut reads.

Also, I'm dying tonight because this lynch will make me practically conftown and I'm already confirmed power role so. Stay vigilant tomorrow, town!

[Chrimi]

Stop helping guide the NK.

What, as if they're not going to target conf-town PR?

[Chrimi]

VOTE: Killthestory

Fakehammer with three and a half hours left? Not putting up with that shit, Dunnstral. You're going to end up making a potential hammerer think the day's already over and not vote.

Still L-1. Someone

please

hammer this shit.

[Chrimi]

Zach will hammer

Because Zach is scum hoping for some final bus? Or because Zach is scum who honestly townreads KTS?

[Chrimi]

Stop helping guide the NK.

What, as if they're not going to target conf-town PR?

As in they can WIFOM so we can speculate and make everyone fucking trip over each other even MORE? The way this day has went does not inspire much faith in me to begin with.

If I don't die tonight it's already fucking WIFOM land. If I do, it's an obvious kill that gives no suspicion on anyone in particular and gets rid of the town PR.

Why the

fuck

would they bother?

[Chrimi]

Zach will hammer

Because Zach is scum hoping for some final bus? Or because Zach is scum who honestly townreads KTS?

EBWOP: "Or because Zach is town* who honestly townreads KTS?"

[Chrimi]

Zach: If we near deadline and there still hasn't been a hammer,

will you hammer KTS?

PEDIT: Me pointing out that I'm the obvious NK choice doesn't create WIFOM. Jesus.

[Chrimi]

LOL NO WTF ID RATHER NOLYNCH THAN MISLYNCH HAHAHAHAH

I'm lynching you tomorrow.

[Chrimi]

Fuck that quote broke. You get what I mean though.

[Chrimi]

LOL NO WTF ID RATHER NOLYNCH THAN MISLYNCH HAHAHAHAH

I'm lynching you tomorrow.

d'awwwww LOL the only way you do that is if i toss my head in the rope for you.

>Literally pulls town out of a stalemate between two wagons on probtowns
>"d'awww you couldn't get me lynched l o l"

What kind of condescending bullshit is this?

[Chrimi]

LOL NO WTF ID RATHER NOLYNCH THAN MISLYNCH HAHAHAHAH

I'm lynching you tomorrow.

d'awwwww LOL the only way you do that is if i toss my head in the rope for you.

>Literally pulls town out of a stalemate between two wagons on probtowns
>"d'awww you couldn't get me lynched l o l"

What kind of condescending bullshit is this?

>pulls town out of stalemate to get lynch on.. town

LMAO

He's going to flip scum. But even if he somehow flips town, it still makes no sense for scum to do any of what I just did.

Unless you want to get into WIFOM territory..

Anyways, preferring a Day 1 no lynch is very, very scummy. You realize that, right?

[Chrimi]

No lynch = Less information for town, and

town loses their kill

, but scum still keeps theirs.

If we no lynched every day, scum wins 100% of the time.

Every day we no lynch is another day scum can snipe from the shadows without consequences. We gain zero information from a no lynch D1 and then me getting NK'd.

We

do

get information from this lynch, regardless of his alignment. He's scum, okay? But even if he wasn't, we'd still get

very

interesting information so Day 2 doesn't end up like today has.

[Chrimi]

Three hours left.

Waiting on that hammer.

[Chrimi]

Zach just hammer and stop being a special snowflake

I'm not sure what the deal at Zach is from you guys.
Although I disagree with his read, why would he lynch who he believes to be town?
I mean, I wouldn't lynch a few people right now even if it meant a no lynch, just because we are happy to lynch KTS doesn't mean you can expect someone town reading him to.

Instead of just saying lynch, give him a reason to doubt his read.

All I can say to Zach for now is - KTS scum would play like he is.

I've already told you why a mislynch is better than a no lynch on D1.

Not that it matters because

KTS is scum

, but.

[Chrimi]

somebody hammer before kts gets here

Your shitposting hurts.

I honestly would prefer if he showed up before deadline, maybe claimed or gave some final words or something. Regardless of alignment it'd be more information for us.

[Chrimi]

I don't want more information just hammer

I can't lynch you

and

Zach tomorrow, so behave.

[Chrimi]

I can't lynch you and Zach tomorrow, so behave.

You could always ask Skelda and Giga to shoot them tonight.

I honestly don't see where you're getting the scumread from Skelda, but I do see the scum!Giga.

Though, when KTS flips scum, scum!Giga becomes much less likely because they jumped onto KTS faster than they wanted to jump onto Wake88.

[Chrimi]

LOOL this is funny because when I left it was before KTS calimed and the lynch switched I only read it afterward


HAHAHAHAHA LOL I BET CHRIMIS MAD

"lol this is funni i can shitpost guis"

Yeah, I am pretty upset town decided to be fucking stupid even after I pulled a much better wagon for them.

I told you Skelda was pretty obviously town. Jesus.

VOTE: gigabyteTroubadour So what happened to you townreading Skelda?

[Chrimi]

I eventually lynched Skelda because I'd rather lose a VT and get information from the lynch than end up with a NL, and there wasn't really a plausible alternative to me.

VOTE: gigabyteTroubadour

[Chrimi]

KTS was at L-1.

Also Maria's hammer (WITH a p-edit so she knew it would be hammer before actually submitting it) is totally scummy.

I am also appalled at Vedith switching wagons.

[Chrimi]

With 2 of the people I was sring (both being wrong) I don't know if I need to do a huge re read or if I'm just really bad... I won't let it get me down though atm I see myself voting in Chri/KTS/Ved

You're going to vote me? Why, because I could've easily just sat on either wagon and gotten an easy lynch with literally 0 suspicion, but instead I went and pulled a shitton of attention to myself so I could try and get a lynch on actual scum?

[Chrimi]

KTS was at L-1.

Also Maria's hammer (WITH a p-edit so she knew it would be hammer before actually submitting it) is totally scummy.

I am also appalled at Vedith switching wagons.

I didn't hammer I was the first person voting Skelda

Oh, yeah okay. That makes more sense then.

[Chrimi]

Vedith hammered.

VOTE: Vedith

[Chrimi]

I'm sorry for not lynching a powerrole who I wasn't scumreading? Is it really bad play to not want to compromise lynch a powerrole?

I don't really think Chrimi is scum, but I have to ask Chrimi the same question she asks in 1709... Why would I start pushing the Vedith wagon if I could have gotten on the Skelda wagon? I don't understand what the scum motivation is in pulling together a counterwagon on (what you believe to be) a townie when I could have just lynched Skelda before the deadline.

Also thank god

VOTE: Vedith

You refused to join the Wake88 or KTS wagon until there was already momentum. You literally refused to do it until it wouldn't make you stick out too much

And also so you could say "why would scum do that?" today.

PEDIT: Maria, I've already explained my lack of activity. I hate playing with shitposters.
I like Neighborizer. It's good. I like it as town.
I've been looked at several times, sweetheart. There was even a wagon on me. I may be inactive, but at least I'm paying some fucking attention.

[Chrimi]

Ladies, stop. You're both town.

VOTE: Vedith

Me and Maria, or me and Gigabyte?

Because Gigabyte is sus as fuck.

[Chrimi]

if Vedith flips scum analyze the day 1 vote counts for the next lynch

Stop posting obvious bullshit as if you're actually contributing, Dunn.

[Chrimi]

You refused to join the Wake88 or KTS wagon until there was already momentum. You literally refused to do it until it wouldn't make you stick out too much

Were you reading anything I wrote? I wanted Vedith as the lynch, but if it wasn't going to happen and I could be sure Wake was, I would have voted. I was pretty much forced to move to the KTS wagon because I didn't want Skelda lynched at the time and every online person on the Vedith wagon had moved. If anything, my carefulness at the time made me stick out because everyone else was happy to vote for Wake/KTS while I wanted to make sure the wagon could actually get together first.

I'm glad you're now scumreading Vedith at the very least, but I think you're confbiasing on me a bit. Especially if the only scum motivation for my pre-deadline push for Vedith you can come up with is so I can say "why would scum do that"...

I actually don't scumread Vedith as much as I scumread you. He just betrayed my perfectly good town-motivated wagon for a bullshit wagon on obvtown, just as you did. Once Vedith flips, regardless of alignment (though especially if he flips town), my vote is sticking on you until you're dead.

[Chrimi]

Zach and Dunn constantly shitposting isn't helping, not sure why they play MS in the first place but meh.

[Chrimi]

Zach and Dunn constantly shitposting isn't helping, not sure why they play MS in the first place but meh.

ouch

Oh sorry, forgot about you.

Zach, Dunn and KTS constantly shitposting isn't helping, not sure why they play MS in the first place.

[Chrimi]

Chrimi can I ask have you been reading even if you haven't been posting or do you just jump in the thread sometimes? This will help me a lot

Not answering this because I don't care about helping you after your ability to be seemingly cool with any lynch and being, as you stated, the first one to vote Skelda.

[Chrimi]

Scratch the seemingly cool with any lynch, thinking of someone else.

Add "pushed a shitty wagon the entire day for no reason on town."

[Chrimi]

I wish Lucy would give me enough votes for all the shitposters.

[Chrimi]

for no reason

I think shitposting the game so hard it makes players not want to read it is a pretty good reason.

[Chrimi]

You're the only one complaining about anything

And you're complaining so vigorously that it's 1/3 of your iso and you're almost worse than zach

Yes, 1/3 of my iso is complaining about shitposting because 5/6ths of this game is shitposting.

[Chrimi]

drop some bars

Point in case.

Can we return to the game now please?

[Chrimi]

drop some bars

I can't just do it on request, it makes me too predictable.

Can we return to the game now please?

Let's. I'm confused as to why you asked for more votes. It's not like you were going to lynch any of us.

I would happily lynch you, Dunn or KTS.

[Chrimi]

Speaking of which:

KTS, why didn't scum lynch JK?

[Chrimi]

EBWOP
KTS, why didn't scum NK you?

[Chrimi]

Why would scum kill PK?

Obviously because it's an out-of-the-way kill that provides us with not very much information.

What I don't understand is why they wouldn't NK you if you're really the JK.

[Chrimi]

Obviously because it's an out-of-the-way kill that provides us with not very much information.

No...?

I think the scumteam was scared of Pisskop actually having a role. The most powerful, top-priority roles for scum to get rid of (the vigs, cop) haven't claimed anywhere, and as Dunn showed Pisskop crumbed

something

. Out of everyone below Charloux (the lowest person to have claimed a role), Pisskop is on the higher end of the roles and crumbed (unlike Wake), so he was a safe bet to NK for a scumteam trying to PR fish.

JK is a protective role.. Why wouldn't they take out JK so if a PR claims later they don't need to worry about them being protected?

[Chrimi]

JK is a protective role.. Why wouldn't they take out JK so if a PR claims later they don't need to worry about them being protected?

Well, then they'd look for a doctor, which is extremely easy for scum to do because Skelda's claim limited to four possible people. A JK protecting a PR is risky because then they would roleblock said PR, which could make said PR useless.

Yes, but..

It's still a better kill than a random VT?

[Chrimi]

Yes, but..

It's still a better kill than a random VT?

You're missing the point.

Pisskop isn't a

random

VT, he intentionally baited the NK by pretending to claim a PR. Unless scum were worried that a JK would protect someone they wanted to kill, looking for a cop or a vig is a much smarter move than killing a JK who probably isn't going to protect the right person.

Is it even smart for a town jailkeeper to protect a town powerrole D1? Or at all?

Pisskop claimed PR?

Lol. Nevermind then.

[Chrimi]

well crumbed is the right word.

1295 reads like a cop crumb to me

Ohhh.

This is what I get for not reading the thread.

[Chrimi]

I'm done with Chrimi right now regardless what side you're on if you're town you have done the most selfish thing taking that role and you have the

AUDACITY

to say "You're stupid for shitposting" WHEN YOU'RE NOT EVEN READING THE THREAD YOU HAVE ZERO RIGHT TO SCUMREAD ANYONE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE KEY INFO You have done the least for this town and you should feel awful about your play

Hey




Fuck off

I'm not going to read shitposts. Already explained this.

[Chrimi]

Firebringer/Vedith/Wake88 are the best lynches for today.

Dunnstral and MariaR can be PoE'd later.

What about Zach and KTS? You can't just let their shitposting slip by.

[Chrimi]

Zachstralkita at least seems to be serious about his reads.

Zachstralkita at least seems to be serious

Zachstralkita

serious

[Chrimi]

Yes, I know it pains you that you can't lynch me because of my obvtownieness.

you can't lynch me because of my obvtownieness.

can't lynch me

obvtownieness.

I swear I'm going to have a mental breakdown

[Chrimi]

Firebringer/Vedith/Wake88 are the best lynches for today.

Dunnstral and MariaR can be PoE'd later.

Meh, let's lynch obscum Maria first.

No shadow you're not allowed to post anything that makes sense god dammit

[Chrimi]

Even if you think Vedith is scum and "fake hammered" at 5 votes to make it look fake I don't see scum putting themself at L-1 the count of Vedith thinking dunn put him at L-1 also makes it look like he thought he srsly hammering himself.

This is dumb and WIFOM

[Chrimi]

or die trying.

Ok
VOTE: MariaR

The correct reaction to two of your scumreads flipping town should be to step back from the game, and try to look at it from another angle, reconsider your reads.

The incorrect reaction is to hard tunnel someone for limited reasoning straight into another town flip.

[Chrimi]

"Two of my scum reads flipped town because i hard tunneled them without making a real case.. better do it again!!"

[Chrimi]

@Chrimi: I take it you don't really care about the game anymore, and are just voting for those you don't like? BS is bad, but trolling is worse by far.

Wrong. I think Maria is being scummy

[Chrimi]

VOTE: KTS

[Chrimi]

lol the mindless tunnel starts again.

mindless tunnel

tunnel

mindless

KTS would you like to explain what you've been doing literally the entire fucking game?

[Chrimi]

Shadow_step townslipped:

Tfw Shadow_step thinks neighborizer is useless for town, and only useful for mafia for daytalk.

LoL

I still am just ignoring that slip because it was so easily fakeable.

I am however starting to townread Shadow because of his push on Maria.

[Chrimi]

am i stupid for not knowing who you just voted.

I'm guessing it was supposed to be Charloux.

[Chrimi]

These are my weaker reads:

Zachstralkita at least seems to be serious about his reads.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS

Currently seeing KTS as town because of the near-deadline reason.

No, his claim was bogus and he's bogus. Bad Creature. Bad.

[Chrimi]

How is my claim bogus?

That is bogus in itself.

VOTE: KTS

[Chrimi]

Can somebody who moved off the vedith wagon explain why they did so?

Because Vedith is town.

@KTS: Stop assuming every vote on you is "mindless". You're not contributing to town or the game in any particularly useful way.

[Chrimi]

By every vote you mean yourself because there's literally no one else voting me.

"youre not contributing" Says the person deathtunneling me

I'm referring to the wagon that got you to L-1 yesterday.

And you really think this is deathtunneling? fml

[Chrimi]

You mean the flash wagon that was basically a policy since I barely got my claim/defense off?

And no, I've only called you mindless today.

Yes.

You were lucky your scumbuddy saved you :^)

And it was a much better wagon than either of the other two that occurred that day, and it was the only one that would have resulted in a scum lynch.
Sadly gigabyte and Vedith pussied out on me...

[Chrimi]

I think it also makes perfect sense for scum Chri to claim Neighbor thingy as a roleswap with someone like Fire who is much lower on the draft and hasn't really been in the line of sight It wouldn't shock me if Chri is a much stronger scum role then this (This is also the main reason I defended KTS as I had Chri as scum)

[Chrimi]

Sadly gigabyte and Vedith pussied out on me...

What kind of bullshit is this?
I was the only one calling KTS out after his claim. Where the fuck were you?

Oh yeah, I take that back.

gigabyte and some other fuckers pussied out on me, Vedith is still good tho

[Chrimi]

I know you want to find a way to push my mislynch since nobody else is and I'm a claimed PR, but let me explain something to you:

We've talked about my role in-depth a total of three times now. Every single time we've agreed it's WIFOM and NAI either way you look at it. If you want me lynched, please make an

actual

case, okay?

[Chrimi]

I know you want to find a way to push my mislynch since nobody else is and I'm a claimed PR, but let me explain something to you:

We've talked about my role in-depth a total of three times now. Every single time we've agreed it's WIFOM and NAI either way you look at it. If you want me lynched, please make an

actual

case, okay?

I have made a case and it's a very valid case if I do say so myself tyvm.

And I just rebutted it in two sentences, so I'd say it's a shitty case.

[Chrimi]

I don't think you dismissed my case on you at all you can act like you did but you didn't you haven't done anything but tunnel 1 person this whole game and when you got lynched you claimed your role.

Did I miss anything?

Uh. I didn't get lynched.

I also didn't like the Day One wagons as I thought they were both town, and turned us around to try and get a lynch on actual scum (KTS), which was foiled at the last second by gigabyte buying his fakeclaim.

Nice try though! Obviously you've been reading the thread even less than me.

[Chrimi]

We've talked about my role in-depth a total of three times now. Every single time we've agreed it's WIFOM and NAI either way you look at it.

This was me dismissing your case here, Maria. Because you managed to miss it somehow.

[Chrimi]

I don't think you dismissed my case on you at all you can act like you did but you didn't you haven't done anything but tunnel 1 person this whole game and when you got lynched you claimed your role.

Did I miss anything?

Uh. I didn't get lynched.

I also didn't like the Day One wagons as I thought they were both town, and turned us around to try and get a lynch on actual scum (KTS), which was foiled at the last second by gigabyte buying his fakeclaim.

Nice try though! Obviously you've been reading the thread even less than me.

Lynched as in close you were at L-1 if I'm not mistaken. Not liking the wagons is fine I don't think I've seen you state any reasons for any of your scumreads or try to compromise to anything that's' happening

Pedit: Let me go look up NAI but it's not just about the role itself everything for you seems so convenient and perfectly timed.

Why would town "compromise" and lynch people they think is town?
Derp derp.

[Chrimi]

ew

He's saying ew because he dislikes the KTS wagon, not whatever jailing fantasy you had in mind.

[Chrimi]

I'm highly disappointed in kraska.

[Chrimi]

I'm telling you Vedith and Skelda are obvtown mislynches and that town should stop helping scum push them so easily.

[Chrimi]

I'm telling you Vedith and Skelda are obvtown mislynches and that town should stop helping scum push them so easily.

Skelda is already gone....

Yeah no shit, sherlock.

[Chrimi]

Dunnstral has been trying actually.....
This is completely different imo to Dota Mafia, where he honestly was just coasting.

[Chrimi]

not really

sometimes town just powertown lynches town, I guess? I still think Skelda's wagon got momentum way too quickly, the only thing really actively stopping it was me asking for a case on Skelda the whole day.

No, don't you lie. You were on the Skelda wagon at the end.

The only thing really actively stopping it was your wagon on Vedith (who is also town), and me trying to pull everyone off those two shitty wagons to lynch KTS. Don't you try to take credit as "the only one stopping the Skelda mislynch" when you were literally on it when deadline came.

[Chrimi]

Who would have hammered KTS, Chrimi? If you didn't wait until deadline to push Wake and KTS, they could have gone through. Voting Skelda is better than a no-lynch, no exceptions.

I acted stupid and hated my decision but the fact that you're acting as though I supported the wagon when I soent

most of D1 criticizing it

. I'm to blame for capitulating, but don't act like it was a brilliant move to push two wagons in four hours.

I had been pushing KTS

the entirety of Day One.

You and a couple others were the ones that waited until the last four hours to start looking at other options.

Stop misrepresenting, taking credit for things you didn't do, and then blaming me for things you fucked up on.

[Chrimi]

Like
I know I have a weakness for appeals and stuff
But I'm not even getting the slightest shadow of doubt that she's being conciously manipulative here. I still think she's town and I won't vote her

>town
>consciously manipulative

K then

VOTE: MariaR

I don't buy AtE.

[Chrimi]

Shadows at hammer range right?
Maria just hammer him

So uh, we lynch Maria. If she flips town, we lynch Shadow. If she flips scum, we lynch kraska77 for that bullshit above.

[Chrimi]

k well take this post as you will but i'm just going to say this because it appears I am getting lynched and that's okay

This was one of my first games on this site and you all made me have a blast it was really fun for me to play and i'm sad it's gonna end so soon. But really thank you.

Yep! Sorry we had to lynch you if you flip town; It just means Shadow was fake claiming and we get to lynch him tomorrow

P-edit: Oh NOW KTS shows up.

[Chrimi]

Shadows at hammer range right?
Maria just hammer him

So uh, we lynch Maria. If she flips town, we lynch Shadow. If she flips scum, we lynch kraska77 for that bullshit above.

Not really, I see this as very dangerous for scum to do.
Maria's readlist should be considered first.

Also watcher on me would be good.
Thanks

Excuse me? You're claiming cop with a guilty on her

but you don't want us to lynch you if she flips town?

I swear to fkn god..

[Chrimi]

MARIA IS TOWN CREATURE IS A BETTER LYNCH VEDITH IS A BETTER LYNCH I AM A BETTER LYNCH

LIKE HOLY SHIT MARIA HAS BEEN OBVTOWN THIS ENTIRE GAME AND I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL TAKE A LYNCH BECAUSE IM NOT LETTING TOWN GET LYNCHED BECAUSE TOWN IS FUCKING DUMB

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

KTS, shut the fuck up until you're done reading the thread.

Shadow claimed cop and guilty on her. If she flips town, then it's a 1 town for 1 scum trade which town should be very okay with making.

[Chrimi]

Am I at L-3 Or L-2 i'm fine with self voting just to end this fight.

If you're not scum, don't self-vote.

[Chrimi]

This is fucking stupid because when Maria flips town I won't be able to tell if shadow is a flaming sack of shit retard town or actual scum

He'll be obvscum and we'll lynch him, you derp. Unless you're his scumbuddy.

[Chrimi]

This is fucking stupid because when Maria flips town I won't be able to tell if shadow is a flaming sack of shit retard town or actual scum

I think we should lynch you tomorrow regardless since you KNOW that Maria is town.

Nah. If Maria flips town we obviously lynch Shadow first. We can worry about kraska D4.

[Chrimi]

Am I at L-3 Or L-2 i'm fine with self voting just to end this fight.

If you're not scum, don't self-vote.

I see no point in prolonging this when the lynch isn't going to get off me.

Go ahead and self-vote, if you're town then your townflip will out Shadow as confscum and we can lynch him tomorrow.

[Chrimi]

I didn't think I was disliked (and liked so much) I don't even feel like I was giving a fighting chance just sheep the guilty

then again I kinda just said lynch me so it's unfair for me to make that statement

Sorry, but when someone claims a guilty and doesn't retract, the way it goes is:
We lynch the guilty, then if they flip town, we lynch the fakeclaimer.

[Chrimi]

This is fucking stupid because when Maria flips town I won't be able to tell if shadow is a flaming sack of shit retard town or actual scum

kraska77: Attempts to somehow play Maria's flip as shadow being badtown instead of scum, in order to hopefully save him from a lynch tomorrow

If Maria flips town, it's kraska77+Shadow

On another note, vig should definitely attempt to kill shadow tonight if maria flips town.

[Chrimi]

Chrimi neighbourizes herself

[Chrimi]

well obviously she could be scum, but people think she's scum FOR wk'ing

personality =/= motivation

this looks like her town game to me, and not just because of maria

i don't think that's against the rules maria

kraska77 is either scum or deserves a policy lynch.

[Chrimi]

gigabyte, stfu. You're shadow's scumbuddy if Maria & kraska77 flip town.

P-EDIT: Vedith, if Maria flips town, and Shadow is town, then we policy lynch him for faking a guilty, right?

[Chrimi]

Don't really want to hammer just because cop tbh

Just

because cop?

Oh you know, no biggy, they just fucking claimed a guilty. Not compelling enough for you, I guess?

Fucking hell..

[Chrimi]

Today on: Shit-town actually buys into AtE and ends up not lynching Maria. We instead end up lynching Shadow, who flips town cop, and scum laughs.

P-EDIT: Firebringer, HE CLAIMED A FUCKING GUILTY. If it's a fakeclaim, then we fucking lynch him. What is

wrong

with you?

[Chrimi]

P-EDIT: Firebringer, HE CLAIMED A FUCKING GUILTY. If it's a fakeclaim, then we fucking lynch him. What is wrong with you?

WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME!?!?!?!?!?

I HAVE SEEN TOWN FUCKING FAKE GUILTY OTHER TOWN IS WHATS WRONG WITH ME!?!?!?!?

Lol, I have the experience to know dipshit towns have fake guiltied before.

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... ts_as_Town
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... ts_as_Town
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... ts_as_Town
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... ts_as_Town
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... ts_as_Town

[Chrimi]

"I have the experience" says Firebringer, joindate 2015, to Chrimi, joindate 2011

[Chrimi]

"I have the experience" says Firebringer, joindate 2015, to Chrimi, joindate 2011

Cool join date.

Hey
did you see this yet
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... ts_as_Town

[Chrimi]

Lol I've been here 2 months and I already saw people doubt other people's reports bc they faked guilty in past games

Why would you play a game with someone that has faked a guilty before?

[Chrimi]

You can find experience here:
Firebringer Games

Were you as useless in all of those games as you are here?

[Chrimi]

i have a few choice words for chrimi but i'll save them for post game

Don't care.

[Chrimi]

Lol I've been here 2 months and I already saw people doubt other people's reports bc they faked guilty in past games

Why would you play a game with someone that has faked a guilty before?

????

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... ts_as_Town

[Chrimi]

Who the fuck told me that Chrimi was cool? :<

Who the fuck told me that Chrimi was cool? :<

Chrimi is cool outside of games at least.

I'm cool because I refuse to put up with bullshit like:
"He just fakeclaimed cop, and faked a guilty on Maria, but he's still town!"

[Chrimi]

Why everybody thinks Shadow is town faking a guilty?

He should've retracted by now if he was.

You guys should take hints from this new player. They actually seem to know what they're talking about.

P-EDIT: If Maria flips town, we're lynching Shadow tomorrow. Obviously.

[Chrimi]

So Maria, you town or scum?

[Chrimi]

P-EDIT: If Maria flips town, we're lynching Shadow tomorrow. Obviously.

Its not as simple as that.

But it

is

as simple as that.

[Chrimi]

If two people claim to be the same PR, what does town do? Lynch one, then if they flip town they lynch the other. Obviously.

[Chrimi]

NO YOU CRUMB INNOS
WHEN U GET A GUILTY U SHOULD IMMEDIATELY CLAIM

kraska77, Giga is right for once.

If you get a guilty, you try to crumb it and let town get information over the course of the day. If you are in danger of being lynched, someone else is in danger of being lynched who isn't your guilty, or the deadline is getting close, you claim the guilty.

P-EDIT: Maria, if you are town, telling us you're town now helps us a lot.

[Chrimi]

So did you enjoy the little game we played?
Cause I know I sure did it was amazing!
Underestimating your foe can be your biggest downfall you know
Maria is my name and playing mafia is my game

Taking this as a scumclaim.

So, shadow is dying tonight unless he's protected; So let's hope he's protected, yeah?

Tomorrow we look at kraska.