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[BBmolla]

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[Killthestory]

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[Killthestory]

hey we should quikhammr soimeneon e

[Egg]

ah shit

Hoopla?

[Wingback]

Read the first thirty pages (till the point where Robb self-destructed) and I'm very glad neither Rob nor House are still in the game and here are my initial impressions. Elyse and Grendel are fairly solid townreads.

While I do understand Hoopla's townread on BBMolla for the emotional appeals and even agreed with it at the time, he hasn't done much scumhunting at all and has been coasting by. Emotions can be faked if you are at least a decent player as scum so he's someone I want to look into more.

Not a fan of Hoopla coming down hard on Rob but not admonishing House in a similar manner. The state of the game is both of their responsibility, and while Rob came across as incredibly town, House was more ambiguous and at times, looked like he was just fueling the flames. I also agree with Grendel that he was dodgy when Wake questioned him. I think he has escaped suspicion so far and KTS is someone I want to look into more when I catch up.

Blankface could go either way from what I've seen so far. I agree with the general sentiment that he stood on the sidelines of the Robb vs House argument but he did it so blatantly and even after being called out by several people that I'm second guessing myself. I think as scum, he would have stopped and at least attempted to appease the crowd by posting other content.

Don't have a strong opinion on Egg. I liked the initial push on Masquerade but his activity level is so low, I don't have much confidence in that read.

Going to take a break and come back and read the remaining twenty odd pages. It should hopefully go smoother given Robb's gone and I should be done in a few hours with more concrete thoughts. Feel free to engage me on what I've posted so far.

[Grendel]

I think once Wingback catches up we should go ahead and go through with a Hoopla lynch. Imo this day is just dragging on with little new content. I do not feel like waiting around for the new content when we could get new data right away from Hoopla lynch.

We can deal with Blank's replacement tomorrow.

I am guessing that tonight's night kill is going to be either me, or BBmolla, with a small chance of Egg. So in the event I'm getting night killed, does anybody have anything to ask me right now?

[Grendel]

@BBmolla & Egg

If Hoopla/Blank is today's lynch and she/he flipped scum who you pursue tomorrow? And if she/he flips town who would you pursue?

Personally I'd think:

Scum!Hoopla

>>>Wingback>>>Blank

Town!Hoopla

>>>Blank>>>KillTheStory

If we lynched Blank today it'd be something like this for me:

Scum!Blank

>>>Hoopla>>>Killthestory or Elyse

Town!Blank

>>>Hoopla>>>Wingback

[Killthestory]

hey scumteam night kill grendel for us please

[Grendel]

@BBmolla & Egg

If Hoopla/Blank is today's lynch and she/he flipped scum who you pursue tomorrow? And if she/he flips town who would you pursue?

Personally I'd think:

Scum!Hoopla

>>>Wingback>>>Blank

Town!Hoopla

>>>Blank>>>KillTheStory

If we lynched Blank today it'd be something like this for me:

Scum!Blank

>>>Hoopla>>>Killthestory

Town!Blank

>>>Hoopla>>>Wingback or Elyse

Fix'd

[Grendel]

@Killthestory are you joking?

[Egg]

Hoopla=scum, probably Wing.

Hoopla=town, more info needed.

Not even sure where I'd look if we lynch Blank.

[Dierfire]

VOTE COUNT 3.07

Hoopla (3): Elyse, Grendel, Egg
BlankFace (3): Wingback, Hoopla, BBmolla
Elyse (1): Killthestory

No Vote (1): BlankFace

With 8 players living, a lynch requires 5/8 votes.

TIMER

(expired on 2016-08-06 08:00:00)

NOTES

Seeking replacement for BlankFace
Deadline will be extended if a replacement is found

[Killthestory]

@Killthestory are you joking?

; )

[Grendel]

Hoopla=scum, probably Wing.

Hoopla=town, more info needed.

Not even sure where I'd look if we lynch Blank.

Yeah, Blank seems like a good rainy day lynch. Which means that Blank is worth lynching for his lurking/ low content posting, BUT there is not as much information to operate off compared to lynching Hoopla. It is part of the reason that Hoopla is taking precedence over Blank, the other reason being that I do think she is scummier then Blank Via mask associatives, and other things I already addressed. The best I could come up with for post-Blank lynching's were, "well if he is scum then I would lynch the other players I am not town reading", or "If he is town then I guess lynch the people who pushed hardest for his lynch?."

@Killthestory are you joking?

; )

So what are your plans for D4? Will you actually be proactive?

Not that your coy attitude, and moderate laziness aren't endearing on their own terms, but we have a game to win... and it would be nice if you could be more helpful. (Assuming you are town of course)

[Hoopla]

I am VT since it appears to be that time.

[Egg]

Info lynches are dumb. If I had a stronger scum read on Blank, I'd vote him regardless.

That claim though. Hmm. Hoopla is definitely the type to either claim a power role or wait until the last minute. But with a JK, investigative role, and vig already out there in another game, what is left to claim? Even then though, I don't see her claiming VT so soon as scum.

Could I be wrong? Input please people

[Killthestory]

i might do something d4

[Wingback]

Up to page 36. Not seeing Blankface as scum. Egg's catchup felt a lot like a scum of middling skill-level and experience catching up. A lot of agreement with reads and stances stated by others and overly wordy which looks like he was trying too hard to show his work rather than just read and compile thoughts.

UNVOTE:

In fact, I think Masquerade's Post 806 makes it pretty unlikely he's partnered with her. Masq was going with the momentum on the Blankface wagon. At that time, if she did nothing, it may not have taken off at all and a Vedith lynch would have been assured. But by turning Blankface into a viable wagon, she potentially loses a partner with not much cred to gain from it. Her naked vote wasn't even close to how much Elyse and Hoopla pushed Blankface so they'd be the ones getting cred. There's also no real downside to Masquerade staying on Vedith since that's who she was scumreading.

Currently looking at the pool of {Egg, BBMolla, Hoopla, KTS} for scum through POE.

@Hoopla,

I have a few questions for you: 1) Is your townread on BBMolla for the ATE early game still valid now? 2) Can you talk about your read on Egg? More specifically, I want your opinion about his catchup (Post 859, Post 865, and Post 866) which culminate in a vote for Masquerade and the people he ties to Masquerade in the process. 3) Mind commenting on my read on House and my concerns about him fueling Rob's self-destruction when he could have easily stepped back. What's your read based on?

[Elyse]

The Hoopla VT claim means nothing.

With cmit and Rob flipped and a highly probable Grendel vig, there's likely no other PR. So Hoopla would claim VT regardless of alignment and the timing doesn't matter since it's inevitable.

[Egg]

What about the timing of the claim though?

[Elyse]

It means nothing to me. I knew she would claim VT so claiming it now rather than later isn't alignment indicative.

Like if you put the pieces together it's clear massclaim is probably unnecessary since everyone's gonna claim VT.

[Egg]

Ok

[Elyse]

Do you disagree?

I could be confbiasing but I don't see how that makes Hoopla town

[Egg]

I dunno, it just seems like Hoopla would know that claiming VT could seal her fate and she might put it off or even not do it at all. Your point of view makes sense though and I'm not convinced that Blank is scum so I'm not switching but basically I don't feel confident anymore...

[Dierfire]

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