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Post Post #1684 (isolation #200) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 1:30 pm

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In post 1677, Xkfyu wrote:
In post 1675, Impoetic wrote:i swear if "tam, the mafia," ends up getting subbed out :|
It's not really hard to figure out. If no one claims the vig shot, then it's Tam. If so, then we just lynch that slot.
Uhhhh if Tam is vig why would we lynch her
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Post Post #1687 (isolation #201) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 2:06 pm

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In post 1686, JaeReed wrote:We're lynching Tam no matter what she claims. End of.
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Post Post #1691 (isolation #202) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 3:48 pm

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In post 1689, Impoetic wrote:VOTE: Sonrio
>vote tag
>doesn't contain the word "tam" in it
>??????????
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Post Post #1697 (isolation #203) » Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:20 pm

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And then he died to mafia

Coincidence? I think not
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Post Post #1704 (isolation #204) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:19 am

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I see

You guys want Tam to claim to get more information about her role.

In that case, I know a fullproof way to get her alignment and exact role, confirmed by the mod.

Hint: it involves lynching her
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Post Post #1739 (isolation #205) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:55 pm

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i think jaereed is the most widely scumread innocent child ever
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Post Post #1740 (isolation #206) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:56 pm

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like 4 people have scumread him after he revealed himself
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Post Post #1742 (isolation #207) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:00 pm

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Oh, was it some kind of auto-reveal IC?
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Post Post #1745 (isolation #208) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:05 pm

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I mean you dropped it first in #1738
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Post Post #1781 (isolation #209) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:22 pm

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Genji's claim has been hard CCed by confirmed town and he was heavily scumread by the person who died last night.

Why. Is. He. Not. Dead?
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Post Post #1788 (isolation #210) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:28 pm

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I don't care if JaeReed claims bulletproof doublevoting strongman godfather-immune cop-vig IC, that won't affect the fact that Tam was scummy based on both tone and mechanics and Genji is exactly the same

Also yeah impoetic isn't cleared any more, sorry
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Post Post #1790 (isolation #211) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:29 pm

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In post 1787, JaeReed wrote:
In post 1784, iraonavp wrote:This is a normal game, it's literally impossible to have innocent child vigilante...

I think JaeReed just wants to look consistent about saying that Tam is scum-aligned even when he is basically confirmed as town-aligned, it's ridiculous.
If I ever see you in a game I'm in ever again I am auto replacing.
Cut ira a break he's just covering for his scumbuddy :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Post #1793 (isolation #212) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:30 pm

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In post 1789, JarJarDrinks wrote:I assume I'm gonna die cause scum wont want me either catching or townconfirming someone tonight and I'm assuming a mafia doc.

Top townreads are XKY and accountant.

Top scumreads are sonrio and murdercat

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is that real?
Why is murdercat a scumread?

I had a monstrously strong townread on him day 1
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Post Post #1794 (isolation #213) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:31 pm

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Okay let's settle this bullshit once and for all.

MOD: hypothetically, would an innocent child who was also a vigilante qualify as a valid Normal role?
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Post Post #1800 (isolation #214) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:36 pm

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Allow me to offer a counter proposal

We lynch out of this pool:

Genji, genji, genji or genji
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Post Post #1802 (isolation #215) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:36 pm

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In post 1799, JaeReed wrote:I am not lying about my role. Iraon is literal trash tier. I am so pissed off that I didn't just fucking shoot him last night like I toyed with the idea of doing so that Accountant could find scum without all that worthless noise.

I HARDCLAIM INNOCENT CHILD VIGILANTE AND ANYONE DOUBTING THAT CAN FUCK RIGHT OFF
Like this isn't the post that someone fakeclaiming for shits + giggles or as a gambit would make
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Post Post #1804 (isolation #216) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:38 pm

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IC+vig role is entirely possible given what Nahdia has said. Town would need something strong to counter a 9+3 setup and both follower and gunsmith are whitelisted iirc
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Post Post #1807 (isolation #217) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:40 pm

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JaeReed can lie his ass off if he wants and he'll still be a better townie than all of you who are not voting confirmed scum plz
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Post Post #1811 (isolation #218) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:44 pm

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In post 1809, iraonavp wrote:Oh, so it is possible...

I guess Genji is actually scum-aligned then, I didn't expect that.

Sorry for any confusion, JaeReed.

VOTE: Genji
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Post Post #1812 (isolation #219) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:45 pm

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You're already dead Genj you can drop the act now

Sorry you're not a bad player you just replaced into a bad slot
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Post Post #1814 (isolation #220) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:47 pm

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Whoops mb haha

Srsly tho hammer him
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Post Post #1816 (isolation #221) » Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:49 pm

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If Genji flips town I will submit a video to this thread of myself eating a bowl of fish eyes
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Post Post #1822 (isolation #222) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:28 pm

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VOTE: iraonvp
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Post Post #1827 (isolation #223) » Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:50 pm

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Short of a second inno child reveal I'm not taking my vote off you, ever
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Post Post #1836 (isolation #224) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:39 am

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In post 1831, JaeReed wrote:Why do you think scum has a doc considering I was merely one shot, as was JJD?

He inno'd Impoetic, who is pretty town in her own right so not overly useful.
JJD was a gunsmith, not a cop. Normally the difference between cops and gsmiths comes from false positives caused by vigs or false negatives caused by scum docs. If there's no vig or scum doc, there's no point having a gsmith.

Since vig was a target the smith would never investigate, it follows there has to be a scum doc or else nahdia might as well have made jjd a regular cop.
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Post Post #1837 (isolation #225) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 6:36 pm

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So are the rest of you on vacation or
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Post Post #1844 (isolation #226) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:46 pm

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Also, the kitten looks disgusting and not cute at all.
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Post Post #1845 (isolation #227) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:48 pm

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I'm more happy with that idea because it is better me dying.
I feel like this points towards his remaining scumbuddy being Sonrio. If his scumbuddy was in a good position he would have hammered himself to cut the day short and hope that the buddy can pull off a win in LyLo. But this desperate survivalistic attitude tells me that he doesn't expect scum to win if he dies, which means the remaining scum is under suspicion or in a poor position.
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Post Post #1847 (isolation #228) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:42 pm

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Yeah, I was making the assumption you were scum aligned because there's no way you aren't

I was right about Tam too
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Post Post #1852 (isolation #229) » Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:54 pm

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I agree that impo shuld come in, a big part of any discussion involving Sonrio's alignment will have to do with the fact that he's useless and it's good to have someone who knows him talk about whether this is something he does every game or this game only
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Post Post #1860 (isolation #230) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:41 am

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I have a read on Impoetic as town based off Sonrio being scum because the interactions there were not tvt and sonrio looked scummy af D1 where Impo is under my protection cuz she's cute af sooo... Son scum there.
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Post Post #1861 (isolation #231) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:41 am

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In post 1858, MURDERCAT wrote:Let's roll with Ira for today, his push on me and accountant has gotten tunnelly to the point where it's scummy.
i mean I was tunnelling him too, just as much and just as long as he was tunnelling me :P
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Post Post #1866 (isolation #232) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:10 am

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I know impo is town, I townread her almost from start, my qn is why you think impo & sonrio is not tvt cos I don't rly see it?
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Post Post #1869 (isolation #233) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:13 am

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Uhhh my townread on him would lower from all but confirmed to Impo levels of townishness but this is a moot question because ira will flip scum
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Post Post #1870 (isolation #234) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:15 am

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Xk your last post seemed to strongly imply that you think MURDER is scum. Tell me more about this.
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Post Post #1872 (isolation #235) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:20 am

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In post 1871, Impoetic wrote:wait wait wait sonrio was town? omg
Uhhh no he's my biggest scumread after ira actually
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Post Post #1883 (isolation #236) » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:06 pm

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In post 1881, JaeReed wrote:inb4 iraon thinks I'm seriously floating a scum kitten lol
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Post Post #1886 (isolation #237) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:46 am

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Post Post #1887 (isolation #238) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:47 am

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But jokes aside though there's literally nothing ira can claim that would make me unvote him so I don't see a point in letting him waste our time and grind our patience down
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Post Post #1889 (isolation #239) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:52 am

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I put in effort into that meme and you didn't even give me a half hearted "kek"

You are this close to being policy lynched tomorrow young man
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Post Post #1892 (isolation #240) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:55 am

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Xkfyu is conftown in my eyes
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Post Post #1897 (isolation #241) » Tue Jul 26, 2016 5:58 pm

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Post Post #1911 (isolation #242) » Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:59 am

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Hold the fuck up

Why is mafia nokilling here

Jae is an easy kill that doesn't rule out mislynch candidates for lylo

Also murdercat I seem to recall you promising to commit seppuku when ira flips scum
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Post Post #1910 (isolation #243) » Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:59 am

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Hold the fuck up

Why is mafia nokilling here

Jae is an easy kill that doesn't rule out mislynch candidates for lylo

Also murdercat I seem to recall you promising to commit seppuku when ira flips scum
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Post Post #1912 (isolation #244) » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:02 am

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VOTE: Sonrio
Someone vote him one more time and keep him suspended at L-1
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Post Post #1914 (isolation #245) » Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:10 am

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Actually idgaf, let's just lynch last scum
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Post Post #1924 (isolation #246) » Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:32 pm

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v/la until monday


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Post Post #1930 (isolation #247) » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:37 pm

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So town has:

IC-vig
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I mean that seems a little heavy on the PRs

I guess what I'm trying to ask is how we know you weren't mafia who intentionally nokilled and took credit for the "save"

You were a popular lynch choice after ira died, so if you were final mafia it made sense for you to try a gambit like this. There's also what I said about ira last day phase:

I feel like this points towards his remaining scumbuddy being Sonrio. If his scumbuddy was in a good position he would have hammered himself to cut the day short and hope that the buddy can pull off a win in LyLo. But this desperate survivalistic attitude tells me that he doesn't expect scum to win if he dies, which means the remaining scum is under suspicion or in a poor position.
I dunno, I don't rly buy sonrio's shit
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Post Post #1933 (isolation #248) » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:41 pm

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Hey Sonrio, on Day 2 JJD claimed gunsmith and was widely believed - he died Night 2. Why didn't you protect him?
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Post Post #1934 (isolation #249) » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:42 pm

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In post 1931, MURDERCAT wrote:Holy shit I totally forgot pacman was follower. For like the entire game. Because why the fuck did we lynch our follower day 1. Disregard all of the set up analysis I've done all game please...

Sonrio probs scum.
I think sonia hammered before claim
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Post Post #1937 (isolation #250) » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:46 pm

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Impoetic, but there's no need to talk about it because sonrio is scum. If he wasn't he would have protected JJD no question
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Post Post #1942 (isolation #251) » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:52 pm

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Can you revote sonrio? When all the evidence points to a single person I want them lynched, claim or no claim. Look:

-4th PR is highly unlikely given an IC-vig + follower + gunsmith (remember this game had to pass review for balance)

-ira's desperado behavior last day would seem to indicate his scumbuddy was in a bad position, otherwise he would've self hammered to deny town discussuion.

-sonrio's delayed hammer on obvscum accompanied with "if ira is town accountant is definitely scum huehuehue"

-failure to protect jjd

-generally acting like a scumlord whole game

-we know the last remaining scum is scum doctor and he claims town doctor
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Post Post #1943 (isolation #252) » Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:53 pm

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In post 1939, Sonrio wrote:I didn't believe him and that was my mistake.

I saved Jae every night.
I'm 100% sure I explained why JJD couldn't have fakeclaimed unless he was a lunatic
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Post Post #1947 (isolation #253) » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:07 pm

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tbf to sonrio if I had buddies like Tam & ira I would bus them too
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Post Post #1960 (isolation #254) » Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:52 pm

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In post 1959, JaeReed wrote:Son, why do you keep calling Impo a wildcard?
its a fancy way of saying "i dont want to give a read on her"
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Post Post #1962 (isolation #255) » Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:29 pm

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In post 1961, MURDERCAT wrote:I'm inclined to just role with Accountant for the rest of this game.
do you mean vote
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Post Post #1977 (isolation #256) » Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:21 pm

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for the record xkfyu is significantly more scummy in my eyes than either impo or murder, so xk if you're town I suggest you make a damn good case against whoever you think is scum
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Post Post #1979 (isolation #257) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:22 am

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I'd like to apologize to Sonrio for being wrong about him. Sonrio, may your soul rest peacefully in the dead thread.
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Post Post #1982 (isolation #258) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:11 am

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Now, here's what is really scary. Genji self hammers here. Why do that in this situation? If you're gonna give up and self hammer as scum, then why not let your scum buddy hammer to at least try and win some town credit?

The answer could simply be that all her buddies were already on her wagon
Traditionally scum self hammer to cut short day and deny information to town doing VCAs. Also at that point Genji was such a goner that any towncred from hammering him was approximately 0
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Post Post #1986 (isolation #259) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:04 pm

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If Accountant is town, he is definitely gonna die tonight, regardless of whether we lynch or not.
Does this imply you don't think we'll lynch scum since you said I'm dead whether or not we lynch and if we lynch scum I'll win without dying
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Post Post #1987 (isolation #260) » Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:31 pm

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While we wait on Impo, xkfyu are you going to do a day 3 VCA?
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Post Post #1989 (isolation #261) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 1:24 am

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oh right day 3 was the ira lynch lmao
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Post Post #1992 (isolation #262) » Tue Aug 02, 2016 2:39 pm

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I want to lynch Xkfyu. His arguments didn't significantly sway my opinion
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Post Post #1995 (isolation #263) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:30 am

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Uhhhhhh xkfyu are you aware this is mylo
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So, let's not delay this any longer than need be. Either vote with me, or vote against me.
VOTE: Xkfyu
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Post Post #1997 (isolation #265) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:32 am

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Sorry but I don't buy your shit, if MCAT or impo are scum they deserve to win anyways
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Post Post #2001 (isolation #266) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:44 am

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Plus, he's been buddying you really hard the last 2 day phases.
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Post Post #2005 (isolation #267) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:57 am

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JaeReed said similar though and he was town.

Re: bussing tam, it's a point in your favor, but not so strong that I'd be willing to flip completely and lynch CAT
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Post Post #2009 (isolation #268) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:38 am

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Good point

I did feel that Murdercat's "nooooo tam's wagon is fishy" was ??? and off, so I'd like catty to answer this qsn
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Post Post #2014 (isolation #269) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:47 am

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I actually don't think ira's tunnelling targets is at all relevant. From what I saw he basically just hard tunnelled the first two people to vote him, and spent the next two days saying "acct and cat are scum" in a variety of ways which basically let him hide and do nothing. That push on D3 was just a continuation of the BS that we let him get away with D1 and D2
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Okay hold up at this point I'm going to do a serious serious ISO of murdercat
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I didn't like the vibes thing either
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UNVOTE:
While I think things through :|
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Post Post #2020 (isolation #273) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:28 am

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Impo, I would love your thoughts on Xkfyu vs MURDERCAT! Maybe a third party can offer some fresh insights.
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Post Post #2028 (isolation #274) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:44 pm

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I ISO'd MURDERCAT.

Observations:
1) A lot of his posts seem to be very off the cuff. I don't get a sense they're calculated or premediated, and I think they express his genuine opinions. Good scum can fake this, though.

2) A rough progression of his reads would be that he scumread JJD and Xkfyu while townreading ira, Tam, me and Bacde. I think it's definitely true he pushed on Xkfyu as a counterwagon to Tam, and we ended up with pacman as a sort of compromise between the two. The reason he gives for this counterwagon is that he hates the Tam wagon and TRs Tam.

3) He spends quite some time positioning himself as obvious town(to the point of outright stating it at one point), synching with JaeReed, Bacde and later me. I'm genuinely unsure how to feel about this. My gut tells me it's fishy, but I can see why a town would want to look towny.

@MURDERCAT I'd like a summary of why you think Xkfyu is bad. Don't use quotes or examples. Speak in as broad terms as possible so I can get the full picture(eg. "Xkfyu has been consistently pushing mislynches, Xkfyu keeps misrepping people").
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Post Post #2029 (isolation #275) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:46 pm

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Okay would scum not know this, Accountant?
NAI. Too easy to fake. Heck, he could easily be scum who genuinely didn't know it was MyLo - I've seen that happen before.
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Post Post #2030 (isolation #276) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 1:48 pm

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When I play scum, I'm very tactical minded. So, when I see scum hammer themselves, I think that it doesn't make tactical sense for scum to hammer themselves if there is even a slight chance that their buddy could hammer them and get any town credits, no matter how small.
If that was the case then the partner looks bad for hammering a dude in a situation where it's optimal for that dude's buddy to hammer him.
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Post Post #2033 (isolation #277) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:30 pm

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I have a policy of not giving a fuck about meta
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Post Post #2036 (isolation #278) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:34 pm

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I think on a re-read I've found some stuff that seems odd but none of it adds up to anything conclusive. Like when I examine my own thought process I just can't say that "MURDERCAT is scum because X", it doesn't exist. Every time I try to form my thoughts like that it makes X look weak, leaky or vague, which is a hint(at least in the way I conceptualize my reads) that the case against MURDERCAT simply falls apart
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Post Post #2039 (isolation #279) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:39 pm

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In post 2037, MURDERCAT wrote:Also, compare how I acted this game to the KTS game when I was treated as confirmed town. Like once I am town read that much I go into a certain mode where I'm not worried about looking scummy or anything.
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Post Post #2040 (isolation #280) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:40 pm

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VOTE: Xkfyu

This is in order at this point, impo is almost certainly not scum(and we're all dead if she is anyways).
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Post Post #2042 (isolation #281) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:46 pm

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you're already voting :P
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Post Post #2044 (isolation #282) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 2:50 pm

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whups

Yeah go ahead, I have no fear of impo being scum who hammers(since if she's scum she's going to win sooner or later like I said before).
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Post Post #2047 (isolation #283) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:48 pm

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well, impo is confirmed. big surprise.
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Post Post #2050 (isolation #284) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 3:53 pm

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In post 2048, Impoetic wrote:
In post 2036, Accountant wrote:I think on a re-read I've found some stuff that seems odd but none of it adds up to anything conclusive. Like when I examine my own thought process I just can't say that "MURDERCAT is scum because X", it doesn't exist. Every time I try to form my thoughts like that it makes X look weak, leaky or vague, which is a hint(at least in the way I conceptualize my reads) that the case against MURDERCAT simply falls apart
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Post Post #2055 (isolation #285) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:07 pm

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Thanks Impo :)
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Post Post #2072 (isolation #286) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:27 pm

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In post 2064, JaeReed wrote:Also lol I just read Accountant's GTKAS while waiting for the hammer and stumbled upon this gem:
In post 6, Accountant wrote:
In post 1, McMenno wrote:what was your favorite mafia game
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=64999

I won after leading lynches on two of my mafia buddies Day 1 and Day 2.
Well the next time I get asked for my favorite game I'll link them to this one :D
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Post Post #2079 (isolation #287) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:34 pm

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In post 2066, MURDERCAT wrote:God damn, well played. Why such the hard buses? I guess I should have meta'd your scum game.
Nah I only bus half the time to prevent people from metahunting me like this
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Post Post #2081 (isolation #288) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:41 pm

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Thanks for the game everyone and shoutout to iraonvp for his amazing play which allowed him to survive until Day 3 despite being incredibly anti-town, AND making me look town after his flip. Genji did the best he could in a bad slot, too.

I think I have to award the best town player award to Bacde, I felt he was by far the biggest threat to scum abd would have solved the game if we hadn't left him alive.

Most enjoyable town player to play with was definitely Impo, your avatar is adorable :P
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Post Post #2082 (isolation #289) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:42 pm

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@Nahdia I don't think it was so much we adapted to them as they claimed and we killed them :P

Town PRs died off quick, one was lynched D1, Jae was revealed early, then JJD and Sonrio claimed in succession so it was kinda like shooting fish in a barrel
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Post Post #2084 (isolation #290) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:44 pm

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In post 2075, MURDERCAT wrote:I should have known from the KTS game your reads aren't this good :P
As town I'm usually either completely off the mark or solve the game quickly, and I know people know this so I flip a coin when I'm scum to see which style I should fake
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Post Post #2085 (isolation #291) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:44 pm

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In post 2083, Infinity 324 wrote:Accountant how do I read you lol
What do you mean?
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Post Post #2088 (isolation #292) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:49 pm

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I mean the idea is that you can't, and that's what I strive for when I'm scum, to mimic my town play in every aspect. Like, I knew MCAT and Xkfyu was in this game and had seen me hard tunnel a vulnerable player as town D1, so it was a useful disguise for my early bus on ira

I had a ton of fun playing this game and I think everyone did really well, biggest fuckup was Sonia's quickhammer. But then again I always have fun as scum.
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Post Post #2090 (isolation #293) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:50 pm

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You posted a lot of stuff I wanted to post, either by being around when I wasn't or in the case of me not having the energy to bother posting stuff and you happened to read my mind, basically :P It's generally a good indicator that someone is the same alignment and role as you are.
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Post Post #2104 (isolation #294) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:01 pm

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In post 2091, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 2088, Accountant wrote:I mean the idea is that you can't, and that's what I strive for when I'm scum, to mimic my town play in every aspect. Like, I knew MCAT and Xkfyu was in this game and had seen me hard tunnel a vulnerable player as town D1, so it was a useful disguise for my early bus on ira
Come on, you can't be perfect ;)
What JaeReed said - I know I'm imperfect, but I can't tell you why, because if I knew I would no longer be imperfect. I've only been lynched twice as scum that I can remember - once was my first mafia game ever, where I got townread by everyone except RadiantCowbells, who insisted I was scum... and, sadly, happened to be a cop that I didn't have the guts to kill(I would definitely have done it if that game was today, and won). The second time, funnily enough, was also due to RC - me and my scum partner were taking advantage of the town's cluelessness to trick PRs into revealing themselves through a mass hypo, and RC replaced in and busted us :(
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Post Post #2108 (isolation #295) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:04 pm

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For the record if town had NLed I would've nokilled and if they NLed again I would have engineered an Impo town confirm(pushing Xk to L-1 and letting her not hammer) and then shot the "confirmed town"
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I think I could have won in a 3P LyLo with MCAT, me and Xk, since I had a valid reason to shoot Impo(she was confirmed) so nobody would look at me extra hard
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Post Post #2112 (isolation #297) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:06 pm

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In post 2111, JaeReed wrote:
In post 2108, Accountant wrote:For the record if town had NLed I would've nokilled and if they NLed again I would have engineered an Impo town confirm(pushing Xk to L-1 and letting her not hammer) and then shot the "confirmed town"
I tossed up whether you'd no kill but that would make you look worse I think. It basically declares "scum can't safely kill in this situation". Which means scum is in the strongly townread who
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I just realized that 5 minutes after I made that post lmao
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Post Post #2114 (isolation #298) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:09 pm

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In post 2095, Infinity 324 wrote:Being aware of your weakness doesn't mean you can fix it. Some scum have trouble faking emotion, sometimes it's hard to tunnel on town, etc
I think I care a lot about getting townread as scum, hence my predilection for bussing(I mean lynching both teammates in half your games is pretty abnormally high). So maybe a hawk-eyes town could notice that? I do try to make my posts as genuine and non artificial as possible but nobody is perfect
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Post Post #2116 (isolation #299) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:12 pm

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You were a bad shot N1 because an IC in 9-3 almost certainly implies town doc and you were talking about how you'd die N1 and stuff.
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I'll be honest here. I thought you were with me on lynching tam slot regardless of claim because you noticed that I basically claimed vig by harping on about my shitty shot
I actually never noticed that but I sure as hell wasn't going to contradict you when you said I did :P
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Post Post #2126 (isolation #301) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 5:51 pm

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In post 2125, JaeReed wrote:Mmmm I did briefly think about shooting Accountant for the lulz too btw. But then I determined that wouldn't be as hilarious as shooting my kitty cat since Accountant wasn't a "might as well be IC" read to me :P
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Post Post #2130 (isolation #302) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:19 pm

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Impo you are better than you think you need to be confident about yourself and push your reads
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Post Post #2132 (isolation #303) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:00 pm

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I have great expectations for my future children too, but I think that might be jumping the gun a little.
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Post Post #2135 (isolation #304) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:45 pm

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Why'd you lie as a town member?
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Post Post #2137 (isolation #305) » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:09 pm

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Post Post #2140 (isolation #306) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:46 am

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In post 2139, Xkfyu wrote:Damn great game Accountant.

Told you that Genji self hammer was scary.
Actually I wanted him to self hammer to deny town time, I was perfectly fine with letting another player hammer too :P
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Post Post #2143 (isolation #307) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 12:52 am

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I don't understand? How does Genji self-hammering imply that I was already on the wagon?

Let's say I was off the wagon at the time that Genji would have self-hammered... then if I voted him, it would be L-1. Or are you saying a scum not on the wagon would have waited until someone L-1ed Genji to hammer for towncred? Because I far value sticking to my town persona(including instant aggression on Genji) over the dubious cred from a hammer
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Post Post #2145 (isolation #308) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 1:57 am

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I think the benefits of his buddy hammering outweigh the disadvantages of the hammering buddy showing up in the spotlight in a VCA, especially since we know Genji will almost certainly get bussed at that point
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Post Post #2156 (isolation #309) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:38 pm

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In post 2155, Bacde wrote:GJ scum well done!

Smart play too, remember its not about being townread, its about surviving and winning at the end! (which includes killing players that scumread you haha)
Thank you!
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Post Post #2158 (isolation #310) » Thu Aug 04, 2016 11:28 pm

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I killed Bacde because he was the best town player.
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