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Post Post #125  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:04 am

Just saying buuuut...

Alts are alts for a reason

How is that hard to explain?

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Post Post #126  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:05 am

Literally "Alternate account trying to hide the main account"

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Post Post #127  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:05 am

its NAI at worst

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Post Post #128  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:05 am

In post 124, 0x40 wrote:
In post 117, Chrimi wrote:The alt thing is a total misrep. I only have one actual alt. The second one is called a hydra. If you don't know what a hydra is, take your vote off until you've read enough wiki to understand what one is.

Why don't you go read the wiki? If you did, it should be abundantly clear that a hydra is a form of alt.

:lol:

In post 117, Chrimi wrote:And finally, having alts and refusing to share their names isn't scummy. Get over it.

Now you're just repeating yourself. It's scummy. You can say that it's not all you want, but unless you can explain why it isn't scummy, I don't think you're convincing anyone. Why can't you even give a reason as for why you can't give the name of your hydra alt?

:giggle:
Burden of proof is on the person making a claim. You're making a claim it's scummy, so you give the reasons why.

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Post Post #129  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:06 am

Oh, and for why I won't give the name of the Hydra alt:
It doesn't matter and its' play isn't indicative of how I usually play at all. Same with the alt I did give the name for.

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Post Post #130  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:07 am

In post 119, Chrimi wrote:I am directly refuting the arguments you make, and letting you know that they're wrong.

Where have you refuted anything that I've said so far? Simply stating that something is wrong is not "refuting" anything. You actually have to prove that I'm wrong to refute anything.

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Post Post #131  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:07 am

In post 130, 0x40 wrote:
In post 119, Chrimi wrote:I am directly refuting the arguments you make, and letting you know that they're wrong.

Where have you refuted anything that I've said so far? Simply stating that something is wrong is not "refuting" anything. You actually have to prove that I'm wrong to refute anything.

I would recommend reading my posts.

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Post Post #132  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:09 am

In post 129, Chrimi wrote:Oh, and for why I won't give the name of the Hydra alt:
It doesn't matter and its' play isn't indicative of how I usually play at all. Same with the alt I did give the name for.

Bullshit. You've made it super clear that it matters, or you would've just given the name instead of hiding it and defending yourself doing so.

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Post Post #133  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:10 am

In post 132, 0x40 wrote:
In post 129, Chrimi wrote:Oh, and for why I won't give the name of the Hydra alt:
It doesn't matter and its' play isn't indicative of how I usually play at all. Same with the alt I did give the name for.

Bullshit. You've made it super clear that it matters, or you would've just given the name instead of hiding it and defending yourself doing so.

Uhh.
No. It still doesn't matter, and I'm still not going to give the name. :roll:

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Post Post #134  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:16 am

In post 132, 0x40 wrote:
In post 129, Chrimi wrote:Oh, and for why I won't give the name of the Hydra alt:
It doesn't matter and its' play isn't indicative of how I usually play at all. Same with the alt I did give the name for.

Bullshit. You've made it super clear that it matters, or you would've just given the name instead of hiding it and defending yourself doing so.

In post 125, thenewearth wrote:Just saying buuuut...

Alts are alts for a reason

How is that hard to explain?

In post 126, thenewearth wrote:Literally "Alternate account trying to hide the main account"

In post 127, thenewearth wrote:its NAI at worst

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Post Post #135  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:19 am

In post 133, Chrimi wrote:Uhh.
No. It still doesn't matter, and I'm still not going to give the name.

If you can explain how giving the username is anti-town, then go for it. You've so far completely failed to do so, whereas I have made valid arguments for why it is pro-town.

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Post Post #136  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:20 am

In post 135, 0x40 wrote:
In post 133, Chrimi wrote:Uhh.
No. It still doesn't matter, and I'm still not going to give the name.

If you can explain how giving the username is anti-town, then go for it. You've so far completely failed to do so, whereas I have made valid arguments for why it is pro-town.

Your arguments for why it's pro-town are wrong.
It's not anti-town either.

See what thenewearth said on the subject. NAI stands for Not Alignment Indicative, btw.

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Post Post #137  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:21 am

It's really not game related at all and I find it rude for you to push me on the fact that I have alts.

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Post Post #138  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:22 am

In post 121, thenewearth wrote:I have uh...

2 alts and... 5 hydras?

And what are the usernames of those accounts?

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Post Post #139  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:22 am

In post 138, 0x40 wrote:
In post 121, thenewearth wrote:I have uh...

2 alts and... 5 hydras?

And what are the usernames of those accounts?

Oh my god I called it

implosion, you're our IC. Please explain to the newer players why people don't just give out the usernames of their alts, and why alts exist in the first place, since they don't seem to want to listen to thenewearth.

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Post Post #140  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:24 am

In post 136, Chrimi wrote:Your arguments for why it's pro-town are wrong.
It's not anti-town either.

See what thenewearth said on the subject. NAI stands for Not Alignment Indicative, btw.

If you can't point out any flaws in my arguments yourself, then maybe you should ask someone like the IC to do so. It's a bit much to expect a VI to know how arguments work, after all.

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Post Post #141  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:26 am

In post 138, 0x40 wrote:
In post 121, thenewearth wrote:I have uh...

2 alts and... 5 hydras?

And what are the usernames of those accounts?


I don't like giving these names lul

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Post Post #142  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:26 am

But ofcourse you're gonna scumread me

Whatever shall I do? :(

Oh wait... Ignore them, yeah that's a great way :D

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Post Post #143  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:27 am

In post 141, thenewearth wrote:I don't like giving these names lul

Can you at least give a reason?

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Post Post #144  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:28 am

Because they're alts

Simple as that

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Post Post #145  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:29 am

Alts are there for a reason

Yeah sure, some people, even me, openly admit who their alt is

BUT

You have to understand, you're literally pulling a crappy case out of a horse's ass

Alts exist for a reason, and its to hide their main

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Post Post #146  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:34 am

In post 145, thenewearth wrote:Alts are there for a reason

Yeah sure, some people, even me, openly admit who their alt is

BUT

You have to understand, you're literally pulling a crappy case out of a horse's ass

Alts exist for a reason, and its to hide their main

Can you explain how hiding information about your meta is of benefit to town, or how giving that information could hurt town? Wouldn't it be better for town if they knew more about your meta so they have more information and can make more accurate reads?

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Post Post #147  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:37 am

In post 112, Jibs wrote:pp: My case on shannon is above in 109, as you've probably seen. I really don't want to lynch you if you are getting up early to play mafia lol. Who do you think is Chrimi's partner? Why are you still voting af?


RVS vote that I haven't taken off yet because I don't have anywhere better to place it. I don't think AF is currently in danger of being lynched, but might as well UNVOTE: AstralFlare

I agree that's shannon's reversal was a bit odd, but a bit early for me to say scummy. I have no idea as to a partner currently. Again, too early.

My thoughts so far:

Jibs: Leaning town. Asking questions and actively trying to push the game forward.
AstralFlare: Leaning town for much the same reason, but with a stronger focus on Chrimi.
0x40: Null. Comes in with a really strong push on Chrimi...I guess that could come across as tunneling. Null right now. Could be scum trying to bus...don't know.
Rocnix - Null. Not enough information to go off.
Chrimi - Lean Scum. See
thenewearth - Null. Playing pretty loose and carefree. Would like to know why shannon's vote was scummy. It'd be great if she could start posting more content around herthoughts.
shannon - Null. see above
implosion - Lean town. I've been burnt before by an IC, but I get a townie feel from his posts (logical, pushing).

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Post Post #148  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:40 am

In post 140, 0x40 wrote:
In post 136, Chrimi wrote:Your arguments for why it's pro-town are wrong.
It's not anti-town either.

See what thenewearth said on the subject. NAI stands for Not Alignment Indicative, btw.

If you can't point out any flaws in my arguments yourself, then maybe you should ask someone like the IC to do so. It's a bit much to expect a VI to know how arguments work, after all.

Ah yes, pointless animosity. Mmmm. Delicious. :lol:

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Post Post #149  (ISO)  » Wed Aug 10, 2016 11:43 am

In post 146, 0x40 wrote:Can you explain how hiding information about your meta is of benefit to town


Because meta is bullshit and shouldn't be the basis of a case?

Like... If I hear 1 more meta out of this game I'm gonna stop playing nice and be the most annoying tunnel-driven asshole you can be

META IS NOT A SCUMTELL NOR IS IT A TOWNTELL

ITS ONLY A SUPPORTING ARGUEMENT

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