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Post Post #1050 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 3:44 pm

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Oh he was a smurf, that explains it. I thought he was scripting.
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Post Post #1051 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:07 pm

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I know you're making fun of me, but one of the flashes he did actually made me wonder about that.
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Post Post #1052 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:17 pm

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I just looked at the replay and while it wasn't by any means "scripting" fast it was damn quick even at .25 speed.
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Post Post #1053 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:36 pm

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If he flashed a specific ability, odds are very good he anticipated it at least a few seconds in advance.
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Post Post #1054 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:09 pm

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Oh I'm sure he did. I was Galio, it doesn't exactly take a genius to know what I want to do. But at high silver/low gold the reaction timing was basically instantaneous.
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Post Post #1055 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 5:25 pm

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No, I've watched it repeatedly and his move is still awesome, whether (and he should have been) expecting me or not. At .25 speed it seems like something I might be able to do. At full speed there is literally no chance.

For the record, the clip isn't anything special. I'm dead even if I get my ult off (Blitz has his knockup on) and it's not like I played it well.

The clip has .25 speed first and then full speed next. Take note of the chompers as well.

And as I said, I don't think he was scripting. But at the time, assuming he was just some Silver Jinx, it did make me wonder.


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Post Post #1056 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 6:50 pm

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Galio's core problem has always been how telegraphed he is. I think a premptive flash/chompers away isn't a bad decision, so I don't think it was a script.

That said, it was glorious time, could have been. The rest of the game would give you better information than just one decision.
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Post Post #1057 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:14 pm

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I tried Talon, he needs to snowball or he's more or less shit

His early game is underrated, he can do okay with eqw at level 3 + maxing w and using it to harass. definitely not the best but not akali tier early game
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Post Post #1058 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:31 pm

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I find it so hard to lane vs makes as talon these days. The lack of silence guts him.
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Post Post #1059 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 8:33 pm

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I laned vs Ryze, no idea how but I managed to beat him up

still lost the game tho, i think he was just shit as ryze
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Post Post #1060 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:41 pm

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ryze is kinda just bad surprised he won
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Post Post #1061 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:42 pm

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In post 1060, hiplop wrote:ryze is kinda just bad surprised he won
botlane went 0/20 and we didn't have tanks, it was a normal so nobody was taking stuf seriously
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Post Post #1062 (ISO) » Wed Aug 10, 2016 9:44 pm

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That flash was pretty nice
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Post Post #1063 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:59 am

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In post 1051, zoraster wrote:I know you're making fun of me, but one of the flashes he did actually made me wonder about that.
Uh no? I spectated most of that game and I came away from it legit thinking he was scripting. It wasn't due to that one flash but more to his crazy high stutter-step APM and precision CSing which were completely out of place in a game at that Elo. You weren't botlane so you didn't see this guy's utter dominance of the opposing Jhin; coming out of laning phase the Jinx was 100 CS up on the poor guy.
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Post Post #1064 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:21 am

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Oh! okay! I didn't realize you were spectating. Yeah, I didn't have much interaction with Jinx until that moment and then she was 6-0 so most of it was just "Fed jinx pushing out super rockets for triple/quadra kills."
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Post Post #1065 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:24 am

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In post 1063, Papa Zito wrote:
In post 1051, zoraster wrote:I know you're making fun of me, but one of the flashes he did actually made me wonder about that.
Uh no? I spectated most of that game and I came away from it legit thinking he was scripting. It wasn't due to that one flash but more to his crazy high stutter-step APM and precision CSing which were completely out of place in a game at that Elo. You weren't botlane so you didn't see this guy's utter dominance of the opposing Jhin; coming out of laning phase the Jinx was 100 CS up on the poor guy.
Highprecision stutter stepping and precision csing arent that special. Scripting is much more than just that. Ive stutter stepped at 5 APM before, Im sure someone much better could do it with a strong consistency. And CSing is easy at lower tiers because all of the cs is free. As I have climbed my cs per game has actually gone down as you cant get every minion in the lane because people start using trading stance.
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Post Post #1066 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:26 am

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Dwlee you didn't watch the game, so like, shut up.
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Post Post #1067 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:40 am

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Here you go, Dwlee: http://www.replay.gg/ajax/replay_batch/2263646970/na (warning: downloads replay file)
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Post Post #1068 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:53 am

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Autofill is a mess. Enter game, our support doesn't want to support. Picks lucian, fights me for every CS, as soon as the enemy engage us he freezes and doesn't even AA while I die. Calls me bad.

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Post Post #1069 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:13 am

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Irelia should be 100% pick/ban right now

She also destroys Kled which is the champ everyone is playing now so I'm playing her as much as possible in order to climb
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Post Post #1070 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:47 am

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sry but that's not true
depending on your elo, kled, ashe, sona, amumu, annie, gp are probably all better bans than irelia

and kled is the most or second most banned champ so you won't see him enough to justify irelia with that logic
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Post Post #1071 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:49 am

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Okay so early laning phase, this isn't even close to being scripted, gets hit by nami bubble at 3 minutes, jhin w in a following fight, and the flash of the second w was a late reaction in a weird direction.
Some proof that this player isn't just a scripting silver, good wave management skills at 5:30 suggests it is a smurf. Look at the misclicks right after jhin is dead around 7:30, this is something I don't think scripts do. More lane management starting at 9:30. Btw, the flashing the galio ult was probably chance, they saw you get close and wanted to get out of your range for when you ulted and you ulted right afterwards. Auto cancel at 14:30. The fact that they are constantly stutter stepping while csing alone is further proof these aren't scripts. Misplaced traps 15:40. 23:35 is kind of concerning but I'm not sure. Doesn't seem like scripting at all except kindddd offfff 23:35 but that's not definitive and I could see a smurf doing that.
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Post Post #1072 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:53 am

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We know, Dwlee. PZ is saying that he thought he was scripting until he realized he was a Challenger smurf.

When I talked to him after the game, he said he didn't really get it... he got put into Bronze when he went 9-1 in placements, and as far as I can tell that's probably not a lie.

My personal guess is that he acquired the smurf from someone else (the account was in bronze in S5 and S4) that had a really really low MMR.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=5nonymous

He's literally 51-7 this season, and 39-3 as Jinx/Vayne.

The thing I find out of place is that Jeem has 0 games on Jinx. While they do share Vayne, I'd expect to see at least a smattering of Jinx games. But then again, it's not exactly surprising someone would play different champions at the Silver level than they do at the Challenger.
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Post Post #1073 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:01 am

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Why did he tell me to shut up when I said it wasn't scripts then.
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Post Post #1074 (ISO) » Thu Aug 11, 2016 7:14 am

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Because you're not offering anything new or insightful to the conversation, you're just trying to prove that you're smarter than everyone else for
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. We already knew it wasn't scripts, zor literally linked the guy in his first post.
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