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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:10 am

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Vote: BM


Also, HEY MERT! Hows it going?
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Post Post #8 (isolation #1) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:19 am

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Unvote, Vote: Erg0


Policy lynches suck.
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Post Post #10 (isolation #2) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:23 am

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Erg0 wrote:Well I can understand why
you
would think that.
because i have first-hand experience with them, on both the recieving end, and an individual pushing for them?

Yeh, i can see the logic behind it. :roll:
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Post Post #16 (isolation #3) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:16 am

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hasdgfas wrote:semi-random
vote: Mastermind of Sin
why semi-random? EXPLAIN YOUR REASONING.

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Post Post #18 (isolation #4) » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:50 am

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calm down mr defensive.
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Post Post #34 (isolation #5) » Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:05 am

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Peers wrote:Let's not start the whole "getting defensive" bull again. It's the first freakin' page.
It's never too early to hunt scum. :D

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Post Post #35 (isolation #6) » Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:07 am

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Neo-Viper9 wrote:
Vote: Battle Mage
Hello Mr. Jumpy
of all the people on my BW, you are the one person i dont understand-mainly because all the others hate me for out of game reasons. Do you even know me? :roll:

Unvote, Vote: Viper


*watch me go for the most votes cast in a game, record.
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Post Post #53 (isolation #7) » Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:28 am

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Peers wrote:No problem. Just didn't want self-vote-bandwagoners to start piling on me or something.

anyway, now that it's fixed...

Unvote

vote: BM:


And if I need a reason, it's... um... due to frequent and recurring votehopping. Or something else that sounds similarly random yet not-random. Or whatever.
lol I have already commented that i'm going to start this game a little differently. I learnt that vote-hopping at the start of a game is fun, and a decent reaction-tester.

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Post Post #54 (isolation #8) » Fri Nov 09, 2007 6:30 am

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Panzerjager wrote:My scumdar just shook so much it fell off the end of the table and broke.

Unvote, Vote:Peers.
I'm ashamed to say that Panzer is onto something here. So instead, i'll claim that it was my idea. :D

Unvote, Vote: Peers


Also, Yos, just because you are making a whole lot of sense, it doesnt mean i'm not keeping an eye on you. :wink:
GG META. :P

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Post Post #62 (isolation #9) » Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:31 am

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Mastermind of Sin wrote:Kaleidopoop?
damn straight.

Unvote, Vote: K-Scope
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Post Post #70 (isolation #10) » Sat Nov 10, 2007 4:12 am

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Peers wrote:
Panzerjager wrote:Why are we letting Peers, who pretty much told us all to fuck off, off the hook?
Technically, I was only saying that to BM and ABR. I don't know the rest of you well enough to tell you to fuck off. :)

Besides... random phase. You vote for people randomly, you let them off the hook randomly, until someone things they see a pattern in the randomness and then everyone decides if that person is right or if that person is scum.
Lol alright Mr Metagaming. Please tell me what games you have played with me and ABR? Because, speaking for myself, i dont recall EVER playing with you, let alone enough for either us to gain a good grasp of the other's playstyle.

Post 68 by K-Scope made me lol.

Panzer speaks the truth.

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Post Post #73 (isolation #11) » Sat Nov 10, 2007 5:13 am

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where is Mert? this game will be lame without him!
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Post Post #82 (isolation #12) » Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:52 am

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Corsican Syndicate? yeh, i recall posting alot at the start of that, but i've completely lost track of it atm. Please do tell me what about my play in Mafia 71 provokes a reaction along the lines of "Fuck off BM".

TS's over-aggressiveness is noted.

My vote stands though.
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Post Post #94 (isolation #13) » Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:20 am

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Mert wrote:Sorry for being late to the party guys - been a bit busy these last few days. I'm here now though :)
Dude, hows things going? How is teh AIDZ?
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Post Post #119 (isolation #14) » Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:32 am

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Peers wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Sir Tornado wrote:
vote Sikario8
content
Pot. Kettle. Black.
Yeh. Rampage, put the kettle on, i wanna watch Pot Black. :D

*if anyone can name which show this joke featured on, they get the BM Seal of Immunity. :D

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Post Post #122 (isolation #15) » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:39 am

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Peers reeks of scum to me.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #16) » Tue Nov 13, 2007 9:53 am

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I should note that Sikario seems to act like this as town aswell. Check out the recently completed Newbie 484 (a game i'm frankly ashamed to advertise).
Peers is the play.
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Post Post #137 (isolation #17) » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:08 am

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oh dear me! Not QUAGMIRE!? :o
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Post Post #138 (isolation #18) » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:18 am

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Quagmire wrote:I'm here. I've already read the thread.

There's really been absolutely nothing going on so far. Toaster Strudel is only kind of mafia so far, otherwise, nobody's really been catching my eye.
Battle Mage wrote:where is Mert? this game will be lame without him!
too late
what do you mean? :?:
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Post Post #142 (isolation #19) » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:47 am

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Mastermind of Sin wrote:Hi.
Yo bud.
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Post Post #147 (isolation #20) » Wed Nov 14, 2007 3:45 am

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Sikario-are you enjoying this game?

(i am going somewhere with this).
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Post Post #156 (isolation #21) » Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:32 am

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Sikario8 wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:Sikario-are you enjoying this game?

(i am going somewhere with this).
:lol: Don't even try it. [Warped]No, I'm HATING this game because I'm not scum. [/Warped inside joke]

Nice try, though
answer the question-honestly please. Are you enjoying this game? Give it a mark out of 10.
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Post Post #162 (isolation #22) » Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:17 am

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Sikario8 wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Sikario8 wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:Sikario-are you enjoying this game?

(i am going somewhere with this).
:lol: Don't even try it. [Warped]No, I'm HATING this game because I'm not scum. [/Warped inside joke]

Nice try, though
answer the question-honestly please. Are you enjoying this game? Give it a mark out of 10.
Given the fact that I’ve played with only you and hasd before, I’d have to give this game – and this is so far due to my inability to access – a 7/10.
Neo-Viper9 wrote:So if you warped that joke, and said you arn't scum, wouldn't that mean you actually said you are scum?
Nice try, nice logic, NO DEAL
Peers wrote:Problem with the votecount: Zu_Faul is on twice, and I'm not on at all.

And, um... could someone explain the bandwagon on me? Is it because I apologized for being rude, or is there an actual reason behind it?
In an attempt to stay involved with the convo, I'll second this inquisition - if that's a word: Why are people voting Peers...? Wait, no, forget Peers - Why are people voting
me
? That's a much better questions.
Ok. The point i am coming to is, why have you been replacing out of some games, whilst staying in others, with no explanation given.
I'll look into the specifics of this later. Just something i felt like noting.

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Post Post #185 (isolation #23) » Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:31 pm

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Sikario8 wrote:@BM - I admire the way you, and players like you, look at the broader spectrum, i.e., checking other games in which I've participated; however, you failed to see why I replaced out of those games (as you stated).

I replaced out of some games because I didn't like the players or I figured some of their logic to be too hard to comprehend. Some of them I replaced out of purely because I was playing another game already and the latter game consisted of too lengthy posts. The reason I'm staying in this game is because I can understand some of you, such as hasd, and I feel I can make an earnest attempt at keeping up.

I also like your "I Don't Need An Avatar To Be Famous" playing style, so, yeah, it's all about living and learning and I'm trying to do both.

I did answer your question...right...?
ok i guess. I can sort of see where you are coming from. You are obviously paying good attention to me at least - i made that avatar comment in Newbie 484. :lol:
I would still appreciate a list of all games you are playing in now, and all games you replaced out of within the last week. Just for my notes.

oh and
Unvote, Vote: ABR

Bandwagonning and setting up future-lynches?

DIE SCUM DIE.
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Post Post #187 (isolation #24) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:18 am

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Don't be a retard TS.
Look at this post:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:If you don't vote him and he turns out scum, I will be looking at you Peers. My opinion of you is subject to change if you vote him right now.
ABR doesnt even find Peers scummy at this point-except by association to Sikario. Plus this is all based upon the worst logic ever-in an elaborate attempt to bully someone into a vote. Someone is only a lurker if they dont give their opinions or post atall. ABR's posting and giving opinions is fine, but there is no need to be so reckless and illogical. I'd have thought ABR would have learnt about looking blatantly scummy (although admittedly, i'm a fine one to talk here). lol

I'm not starting an anti-Peers wagon, nor have i even said that he doesnt deserve a BW. But what i am saying is, ABR's reasons for voting Peers were shite, and he looks incredibly scummy atm.

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Post Post #197 (isolation #25) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:39 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Toaster Strudel wrote:
Peers wrote:[...]in order to protect someone you know is -100%- town?
Oh good grief. Doesn't anybody know how to play this game anymore?

unvote
Peers was referring to himself. Why did you unvote him ?
lol good spot.
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Post Post #203 (isolation #26) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:22 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Toaster Strudel wrote:
Peers wrote:[...]in order to protect someone you know is -100%- town?
Oh good grief. Doesn't anybody know how to play this game anymore?

unvote
Peers was referring to himself. Why did you unvote him ?
lol good spot.
FoS: TS
Why are you FoSing TS, do you think that was an excuse to take her vote off of Peers ?
She seems jumpy, and seems not to be reading the game. Very quick to hop away from the wagon when she thought that she might have outted the cop, but as soon as she is corrected, she hops back on.

In fact,
Unvote, Vote: TS
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Albert, with me. :)
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Post Post #207 (isolation #27) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:02 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:I would still appreciate a list of all games you are playing in now, and all games you replaced out of within the last week. Just for my notes.

oh and
Unvote, Vote: ABR

Bandwagonning and setting up future-lynches?

DIE SCUM DIE.
Effectively finding an excuse to unvote Peers, as his case makes no sense whatsoever,
as everyone can attest
. And then he attacks TS for unvoting Peers, the exact same action he did just a few posts back. Yet again, BM shows himself
desperate
to derail the Peers bandwagon by dropping his case on me when he finds no support, and attempts to buddy up with me in bandwagonning another *easier*-according to him- target!
Erm, Albert, why do you suppose i would be incredibly desperate to take my vote off Peers, when i had had my vote on him for a while? I mean, if i was 'desperate to derail a lynch on Peers', why do you suppose i started a BW on him in the first place? :roll:
Secondly, your Appeal to Emotion is noted. (underlined for clarity).
It is quite clear that my vote on you was not rubbish, but in case you have neglected to watch ANY of my play this game, i'm trying to stay on the ball. My voting may look jumpy, but when i reread later in the game, i will have a decent list of scummy players, and scummy actions, accompanied by votes.
Thirdly, i didnt attack TS for unvoting Peers, i attacked TS for his misinterpretation of Peers statement, and haste to unvote, under false pretences.
Fourthly, saying 'with me' is an MS term used by the cool kids. Its a running joke if you will. Not an example of buddying up. rofl. :lol:
Albert wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Toaster Strudel wrote:
Peers wrote:[...]in order to protect someone you know is -100%- town?
Oh good grief. Doesn't anybody know how to play this game anymore?

unvote
Peers was referring to himself. Why did you unvote him ?
lol good spot.
FoS: TS
Why are you FoSing TS, do you think that was an excuse to take her vote off of Peers ?
She seems jumpy, and seems not to be reading the game. Very quick to hop away from the wagon when she thought that she might have outted the cop, but as soon as she is corrected, she hops back on.

In fact,
Unvote, Vote: TS
.

Albert, with me. :)
This attitude change is unbelievably scummy. I think both Peers and BM are scum.
Its hardly an attitude change. You made a scummy post, but you made a good spot on another scummy post. It has fuck-all to do with your affiliation. I just think you're nervous because you don't know where you stand with me. :p

vote on TS stands btw. Dont worry though, i havent 'dropped' my case on you Albert. I'm keeping my options open atm.

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Post Post #209 (isolation #28) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:16 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Erm, Albert, why do you suppose i would be incredibly desperate to take my vote off Peers, when i had had my vote on him for a while? I mean, if i was 'desperate to derail a lynch on Peers', why do you suppose i started a BW on him in the first place? Rolling Eyes
Early distancing explains the early vote, followed by the fear of losing a scumbuddy. That clarifies why you used a terrible excuse to unvote him.
Thats very weak. I mean, you think i would waste effort distancing from a scumbuddy, only to hop immediately to their defence if they got near a lynch? kinda defeats the object of distancing in the first place, no?
Albert wrote:
Secondly, your Appeal to Emotion is noted. (underlined for clarity).
It is quite clear that my vote on you was not rubbish, but in case you have neglected to watch ANY of my play this game, i'm trying to stay on the ball. My voting may look jumpy, but when i reread later in the game, i will have a decent list of scummy players, and scummy actions, accompanied by votes.
Right-o.
Thirdly, i didnt attack TS for unvoting Peers, i attacked TS for his misinterpretation of Peers statement, and haste to unvote, under false pretences.
She made a painfully obvious mistake. You're just grasping at straws to stop a Peers bandwagon.
lol i think i've already explained why this argument makes absolutely no logical sense. If anyone is grasping at straws, it is you. Notice also the same logic you put forward for me being scum with Peers, is also present for you and TS. :roll:
TS made a mistake, and i think it was a scum one. m'kay?
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Post Post #220 (isolation #29) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:08 am

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Erg0 wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Erm, Albert, why do you suppose i would be incredibly desperate to take my vote off Peers, when i had had my vote on him for a while? I mean, if i was 'desperate to derail a lynch on Peers', why do you suppose i started a BW on him in the first place? Rolling Eyes
Early distancing explains the early vote, followed by the fear of losing a scumbuddy. That clarifies why you used a terrible excuse to unvote him.
Thats very weak. I mean, you think i would waste effort distancing from a scumbuddy, only to hop immediately to their defence if they got near a lynch? kinda defeats the object of distancing in the first place, no?
This is a very poor defence, it's entirely possible that you made your initial vote not expecting of the wagon to grow to the size that it did. There's distancing and then there's bussing - I'd say you're a candidate for the first, but didn't want to go through with the second.
I'd say you should know my play better than this by now. Please refer to 1 game, of the numerous i have shared with you, in which, as scum, i have distanced from my scumbuddy, but then made a point of derailing their wagon when it became inevitable that they would be lynched.
Erg0 wrote: TS's unvote/revote looks like a simple reading comprehension error to me. I don't see what your vote is going to achieve there - trying to start the wagon you
really
want?
I don't see what you're getting at here. Why would a wagon on TS be inherently scummy, whereas bandwagonning newbs-1 of whom is perhaps more worthy of the title 'Jester' than i am, is explicitly protown.?

Peers is currently a better lynch than Sikario i think, although that is subject to change depending on his response to my latest request.
Nonetheless, i'd rather see Albert hang, for his terrible play so far.

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Post Post #222 (isolation #30) » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:12 am

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Peers wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:Peers is currently a better lynch than Sikario i think, although that is subject to change depending on his response to my latest request.
Sorry, I missed it. What request?
ah sorry, i may have worded that poorly. The request was to Sikario, not you. :P
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Post Post #238 (isolation #31) » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:24 am

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policy lynches are ridiculously dumb. MoS knows this really.
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Post Post #245 (isolation #32) » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:09 am

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got any flavour with that?
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Post Post #247 (isolation #33) » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:39 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:What's your flavor Peers ?
dude, stop stalking me. :roll:
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Post Post #249 (isolation #34) » Sun Nov 18, 2007 10:53 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:Why did you ask that, anyway ?
You dont understand why i asked it, and yet you asked it yourself?

Unvote, Vote: ABR
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Post Post #251 (isolation #35) » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:15 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:It sounded like a good idea at the time but there ain't no flavor in this game, so I was wondering why you would ask that.
omfg!!! :evil:
You totally blew that trap, didnt you? :roll:

CONFIRM VOTE: ALBERT
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Post Post #254 (isolation #36) » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:57 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:Are you...an idiot ? Do you honestly believe that the mafia would have flavor and the town wouldn't ?
no...
I was thinking that maybe if Peers-scum didnt realise that the vanilla role pm was in the OP, we might be able to get him to claim something slightly different-but different enough to distinguish between that and the actual vanilla pm.

You Fool...

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Post Post #256 (isolation #37) » Sun Nov 18, 2007 11:59 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:The first thing mafia do when they invent a flavor is to check their own, anyway. Your "trap" is stupid, vain, and try-hard.

Unvote, vote BM
erm, are you a fucking moron? :shock:
read my previous post, and think before you post in future. Alternatively, just dont post atall, and then you wont f up a great plan. Its pretty obvious that if he didnt claim his rolename as 'Villager' we would have confirmation of his guilty.

I'm lost for words at your stupidity....

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Post Post #269 (isolation #38) » Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:14 am

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Peers wrote:.... so, you both think I'm an idiot as well as scum. Well, nice to know you're both wrong on two counts. :)
erm if i was convinced you were scum, i'd be voting for you. Unfortunately now we cant test your claim, and you keep making such lame WIFOM posts, its hard to see how you will survive today, even though you arent the scummiest player here.

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Post Post #274 (isolation #39) » Mon Nov 19, 2007 8:03 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:This isn't scummy, its just plain anti-town. MoS is anti-town. He will be vigged, end of story.
anti-town can be scummy. MoS is being anti-town and scummy, and should be looked at closely, end of story.

Peers, post 270 is pretty dumb. ABR gets lynched lots for his scummy play.

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Post Post #279 (isolation #40) » Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:53 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:I am right. You are wrong. If MoS didn't want to be in this game, he would ask for a replacement.
and you can bet your house that if MoS was given a Jester role, he's be out of this game faster than Cubsfan from a gay bar. :P

And yeh i remember that game. Its the reason i am now so paranoid about Jesters in all my games. :p
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Post Post #282 (isolation #41) » Mon Nov 19, 2007 11:30 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:So ? What do you want to do about the MoS situation ?
for now, ignore it. He is pushing a ridiculous lynch on someone with poor reasoning. This is often how he plays, so from a meta-perspective, he isnt defo scum. Obviously that doesnt mean what he is saying has any credibility, with regard to policy lynching TS, but for now i think lynching you is a good plan.

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Post Post #292 (isolation #42) » Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:44 am

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Peers wrote:
Erg0 wrote:Hey, I remember you! Weren't you scum?
Actually, he was being one of the most level-headed and rational people in the game. And also lurking. Which does make him sort of stand out as different.
butt-kisser... :P
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Post Post #308 (isolation #43) » Thu Nov 22, 2007 5:53 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:You're full of crap. You said that its too early to have any good leads, which you know is B.S.

Then why are you saying things you know are silly ?
For once, i agree wholeheartedly with ABR. MoS is not making any sense at this point, and i'm suspicious of those defending him so much. I mean, MoS pissed off is not scummy. Its a total null-tell. BUT, MoS pissed off over something totally trivial and pathetic, is pretty scummy. He needs to get his act together, and start helping the game progress.

Case closed.

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Post Post #313 (isolation #44) » Thu Nov 22, 2007 8:19 pm

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Toaster Strudel wrote:
Quagmire wrote:Unfortunately Toaster Strudel I'm voting for you because of how mafia you are.
And just this afternoon, it dawned on you that I am mafia in every game we're in?

What you seem to forget is that you and your mentor are ruining the game for everybody.

Poke all you want, I will not destroy other players' enjoyment by engaging in petty feuds, OMGUS votes, or exchange in battles of insults with either of you.

I am here to play the game and have fun.

mod: A votecount would be a nice way to put us back on track
gotta stand with TS on this one. (and no, i'm not basing this on my 'Quagmire is always wrong' meta). I'd now like to see Quagmire explain why he thinks TS is scum. Because if anyone was getting policy-lynched here, it'd most probably be Quag himself. (or me, but we'll gloss pretty swiftly over that ;))

And knowing MoS, i'd like to see what he has to say about Quag atm.

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Post Post #334 (isolation #45) » Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:59 am

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JordanA24 wrote:
I don't like the Jester talk at all, why can't MOS be a poorly playing scum?
What makes you sure that he's a Jester? Personally, I'm suspicious of MOS being scum for pushing a policy lynch so vehemently.
schismatized wrote:my vote stands. i can tell that me and yos are not going to see eye to eye on those issues, especially when he uses his an opinion of something as backup for his argument lol. (ie im not a big fan of...)
Way to dodge the argument Schis.
FOS: Schismatized

Peers wrote:
Erg0 wrote:Hey, I remember you! Weren't you scum?
Actually, he was being one of the most level-headed and rational people in the game.
Peers PLEASE climb out of peoples arses.
Mastermind of Sin wrote:
JordanA24 wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:MoS is a jester. Vig him tonight plz.
What's with the Jester obsession? Why can't MoS be a badly playing scum?
Why can't MoS be a pissed off protown?

Odd that you would limit your questioning in such a fashion that restricts me to being an antitown player only...
FoS: Jordan
That's not what I meant, I was asking them why you have to be a Jester, why don't they think you could be badly playing scum? I can still see you as town, though I admit, I find you pretty scummy, just sticking to the TS policy lynch and contributing nothing useful to the town.
Battle Mage wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:You're full of crap. You said that its too early to have any good leads, which you know is B.S.

Then why are you saying things you know are silly ?
For once, i agree wholeheartedly with ABR. MoS is not making any sense at this point, and i'm suspicious of those defending him so much. I mean, MoS pissed off is not scummy. Its a total null-tell. BUT, MoS pissed off over something totally trivial and pathetic, is pretty scummy. He needs to get his act together, and start helping the game progress.

Case closed.
QFT.
Quagmire wrote:Since MoS and I have voted for her, she has reacted very emotionally to the votes, and in her posts, it's simple to tell that she's simply been masking her intensity through a fit of apathy, something in which if she were actually apathetic about it, she wouldn't care in the first place.
To be fair to TS, I'd be pretty upset if I was being voted for because of a retarded policy lynch (while being insulted at the same time) and being called scum with no reasons given.
Peers wrote:
Quagmire wrote:uh...that's my case. only this game. i don't know her in any other games.
So your case is that she appears to be trying to not get angry, but got angry when someone insulted her.

... Case dismissed for insufficient evidence.
This post swings my vote.

Unvote Vote: MOS


Start participating properly.
the bit in red gives me deja vu, because i definitely recall someone saying it before. :?:
Other than his views on Jester's in games in general, which he knows i dont entirely agree with, i think Jordan makes alot of good points here. Just the first sentence makes me uneasy...

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Post Post #415 (isolation #46) » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:10 am

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i guess i can go for an MoS wagon.
Unvote, Vote; MoS


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Post Post #418 (isolation #47) » Sun Dec 02, 2007 12:02 pm

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:Let's not vote MoS now. Anybody but MoS.
lol i'm now increasingly happy with my vote.
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Post Post #496 (isolation #48) » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:33 am

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Unvote, Vote: Quag


Maybe putting him at -3/-2 might encourage him to play the game-and playing the game starts with reading your role pm.
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Post Post #498 (isolation #49) » Fri Dec 07, 2007 7:51 am

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dude, we arent going to lynch him. we're wagonning him, so he gets near a lynch, and has to CLAIM, hence he will read his role.

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Post Post #563 (isolation #50) » Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:58 am

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Mastermind of Sin wrote:
Toaster Strudel wrote:
hasdgfas wrote: This gives us an advantage because he's playing as a townie.
He is not playing as a townie, he is playing as Quagmire, that is, he is completely useless.

Are you even paying attention, hasdgfas? He's pulled that "I didn't read my role PM" in another game, and he was scum. When Quagmire does that, it becomes a scumtell.

Who doesn't read their role PM with much anticipation? It doesn't make any sense, it's not believable, and, I'll say it again, he does that as scum.
This is perhaps the worst argument I have ever seen. This argument shames BM, seriously.

Eh? How is that in any way my fault? :?:
Has Quag read his role yet at least?

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Post Post #590 (isolation #51) » Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:43 am

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Mastermind of Sin wrote:I'd rather lynch someone who is scum than someone who is useless for Day 1. Considering that there are actually people who seem like scum right now, we're better off lynching then than Quagmire.
I'm not so sure. I find it hard to see a mentality for Quag's play atm that falls in the protown category. If he doesnt want to play the game, Day 1 is the best time to get rid of him, as it also gains us info.

If we dont see anyone really standing out as scummy by the end of the day, i'm happy to just lynch him and be done with it.

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Post Post #619 (isolation #52) » Wed Dec 12, 2007 10:55 am

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Mod- Votecount much? ;)
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Post Post #624 (isolation #53) » Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:19 am

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^QFT. Where am i here?
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Post Post #639 (isolation #54) » Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:12 am

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ABR is the play
FoS: Erg0
for assuming that any BW on ABR has no substance.

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Post Post #646 (isolation #55) » Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:23 am

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Panzerjager wrote:"I love little girls, they make me feel sooo good"
The prosecution confirms that ABR did indeed say this on the night in question.

I'll outline the case in a sec.

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Post Post #649 (isolation #56) » Sun Dec 16, 2007 10:40 am

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zu_Faul wrote:Feels like first page again. Stop fooling around, ABR is not the one we're looking for today.
posts like this make me want to put the noose around your neck. But, i'll humour you. Why are so sure that ABR is town?

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Post Post #686 (isolation #57) » Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:34 am

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Mert is away atm unfortunately. Shame-he was the reason i joined this game. But yeh, he needs replacement.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #58) » Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:17 pm

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Quagmire wrote:Although I would like to add that I'm glad you're leaving. I hope you leave the site for good.
You my friend, are a fucktard. If anyone should leave the site, it is you, because it is you who offends everybody, not TS/DGB.

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Post Post #712 (isolation #59) » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:43 am

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are we really back at the random voting stage again? :roll:
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Post Post #1092 (isolation #60) » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:51 am

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Will post on Thursday. Maths exam tomoz. Wish me Luck! :)

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Post Post #1503 (isolation #61) » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:30 am

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Ok, i admit i have no idea where i am with this game, but i really dont like IH's last few posts. They give me bad vibes.
Vote: IH
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Post Post #1527 (isolation #62) » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:26 am

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zu_Faul wrote:
Toaster Strudel wrote:
IH wrote:TS I literally want to strangle you right now. You're attitude is insufferable. = |

I mean seriously.

WHY WON'T YOU ALL BE LOGICAL!? WHY MUST YOU MAKE BABIES CRY!?
I wasn't being illogical at all. OMGUS.
How can this ever be OMGUS?

Vote: TS

You are jumping on everything which moves.

You're voting Quag, Seteal say something aber panzer, then you're voting panzer, BM says soemthing about IH, then you say that you could see yourself voting for IH. (while not explicitely voting for him, as that would be too obvious, you're already setting up a vote on him.)


Also, BM, what is your point again IH other than feeling?
I never said there was another point. I'm voting for him simply because some of his comments seem to give whiffs of inside-knowledge, and setting up future lynches. Considering im out of touch with the game, it was worth a vote, if only a temp one.
I'm interested to see whether TS felt the same, or was simply tagging along for the fun of a BW.

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Post Post #1564 (isolation #63) » Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:24 am

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Toaster Strudel wrote: BM, why do you say I was tagging along for the bandwagon? There was no bandwagon, only your vote, and I didn't vote for IH. Are you misrepresenting me on purpose, or is it a mistake?
Wow, chill out! I never said you were tagging along for the bandwagon. I said that it was a possibility. its hardly misrepresenting, and your over-reaction is very suspicious.

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Post Post #1565 (isolation #64) » Sun Jan 27, 2008 10:27 am

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Toaster Strudel wrote:
IH wrote:This is not happening at all. Quit skewing the facts. Since the day has started you've switched your vote around 5 times.
WHOA!!! Around 5 times? TWICE.
IH wrote:You aren't even attempting to make a case, except on Quag, and you then switched your vote two posts later.
Yeah, and who is making cases right now? Panzer who just flaked? ABR who decided for unfathomable reasons that Erg0 is scum??? Zu_faul, who is, in my book, potential scum and is voting for me anyway? Who? Show me some good cases. ABR who is asking OTHER FREAKIN PEOPLE to make his cases??????? My case on Quag is a total waste of time. I wasted 55 pages on Day 1, can you imagine my frustration? Nobody wants to lynch anyone.
IH wrote:I also am dissapointed you are ignoring all attempts to start discussion to chide the town for something they haven't even done yet.
Right, I'm not discussing enough? I haven't posted enough in this game??? Something the town hasn't done yet??? Were you there yesterday??? Argh!

Oh please yes, put me out of my misery. Let me help you.

vote: TS
Rofl. I cant say this is totally out of character for you, but even so...
I can totally see bussing big-style here. Too much OMGUS on too weak grounds. But, i'll go with the momentum.

Unvote, Vote: TS

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Post Post #1572 (isolation #65) » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:31 am

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Shanba wrote:
Vote Count:

4: TS
(Panzerjager, Zu_Faul, IH, ABR, BM)
2: Panzerjager
(Setael, Toaster Strudel)
1: Sir Tornado
(JordanA24)
1: Bookitty
(Quagmire)

Not Voting:
Sir Tornado, Bookitty, hasdgfas, YagamiLight, Erg0, schismatized
I think TS should be on 5 votes. Also, Jordan, why are you not voting for TS atm?

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Post Post #1574 (isolation #66) » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:59 am

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Shanba wrote:BM is better at counting to 5 than me
I have an irresistable temptation to sig this...

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Post Post #1576 (isolation #67) » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:28 am

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Setael wrote:Hey ABR, are you and MoS getting married?
I believe the term you are looking for is, 'Civil Partnership'.
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Post Post #1580 (isolation #68) » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:34 am

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erm, example please?
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Post Post #1592 (isolation #69) » Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:03 am

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Erg0 wrote:Ok, BM's vote-hopping:

At the start of the game he's all over the place, though he did state up front that he would be vote-hopping on purpose to try and elicit reactions. I'm not sure that this can be expected to achieve anything if you've given a warning in advance, but at least he somewhat explained this behaviour. Ignoring his first 20-odd posts, the first reversal is here:
Battle Mage (post 185) wrote:
Sikario8 wrote:@BM - I admire the way you, and players like you, look at the broader spectrum, i.e., checking other games in which I've participated; however, you failed to see why I replaced out of those games (as you stated).

I replaced out of some games because I didn't like the players or I figured some of their logic to be too hard to comprehend. Some of them I replaced out of purely because I was playing another game already and the latter game consisted of too lengthy posts. The reason I'm staying in this game is because I can understand some of you, such as hasd, and I feel I can make an earnest attempt at keeping up.

I also like your "I Don't Need An Avatar To Be Famous" playing style, so, yeah, it's all about living and learning and I'm trying to do both.

I did answer your question...right...?
ok i guess. I can sort of see where you are coming from. You are obviously paying good attention to me at least - i made that avatar comment in Newbie 484. :lol:
I would still appreciate a list of all games you are playing in now, and all games you replaced out of within the last week. Just for my notes.

oh and
Unvote, Vote: ABR

Bandwagonning and setting up future-lynches?

DIE SCUM DIE.
Battle Mage(post 203) wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Albert B. Rampage wrote:
Toaster Strudel wrote:
Peers wrote:[...]in order to protect someone you know is -100%- town?
Oh good grief. Doesn't anybody know how to play this game anymore?

unvote
Peers was referring to himself. Why did you unvote him ?
lol good spot.
FoS: TS
Why are you FoSing TS, do you think that was an excuse to take her vote off of Peers ?
She seems jumpy, and seems not to be reading the game. Very quick to hop away from the wagon when she thought that she might have outted the cop, but as soon as she is corrected, she hops back on.

In fact,
Unvote, Vote: TS
.

Albert, with me. :)
In the space of 20 posts, BM goes from accusing ABR of setting up chain lynches (a fairly strong scumtell in my experience) to agreeing with him about TS and even asking ABR to follow him onto the wagon. He then says in his next post that he hasn't dropped his case on ABR, despite following him like this, which sounds like bet-hedging to me.
I didnt agree with him as such-i dont recall him voting for TS at the time. Anyway, changing your views on someone isn't inherently scummy. I'd rather see that than a player desperately bidding for consistency points and not staying alert.
Erg0 wrote: The second example is Day 2's TS/IH argument, which resulted in BM voting IH and then switching to TS a few posts later because of "bussing". Looks like a weak reason to join a wagon with some momentum to me, I'm not really getting a bussing vibe from IH/TS at all.
I still think there is good reason to vote for both of them. I merely swapped to the TS wagon because it had more votes.
Erg0 wrote: Basically this adds up to a whople lot of bet-hedging to me. BM is pushing whoever looks easiest to lynch at the time and hopping between opposing cases at will.
Opposing? Erg0, just because 2 people are voting for each other, it doesnt mean both arent scum. Its called bussing. And even if they arent 'bussing', it is quite possible to find them both suspicious. If you think an argument between 2 people is not Townie vs Townie, its worth lynching them.

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Post Post #1593 (isolation #70) » Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:05 am

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Bookitty wrote: On the other hand, I'm going to do a targeted reread on Battle Mage, because I agree with most of Erg0's points
You mean all
2
of them!? :shock: :lol:
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Post Post #1594 (isolation #71) » Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:08 am

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Xylthixlm wrote: Battle Mage, what do you think about Erg0?
Well, i cant say anything bad about the guy on his birthday! :o
I dont think he's the play for today by a long chalk. Equally, i feel he is reaching alot with his suspicions, but that isnt necessarily scummy. Its just how Erg0 does things. :p

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Post Post #1630 (isolation #72) » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:26 am

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Not sure what to make of the buddying up between TS and Jordan. 0.o

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Post Post #1652 (isolation #73) » Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:23 am

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see V/LA thread.
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Post Post #1681 (isolation #74) » Tue Feb 12, 2008 10:27 am

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long time no see Spambot. ;)
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Post Post #2046 (isolation #75) » Tue Mar 11, 2008 10:27 am

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wow, totally forgot this game was still going. 0.o
I'll try and give the thread a glance over tonight or tomorrow.

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Post Post #2051 (isolation #76) » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:09 am

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Toaster Strudel wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:wow, totally forgot this game was still going. 0.o
I'll try and give the thread a glance over tonight or tomorrow.

BM
You're at L-3. Make it good.
Ooh, i'm quaking in my boots. What are the charges? Chronic Lurking? Forgetfulness? :lol:
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Post Post #2054 (isolation #77) » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:35 am

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Ok, i'm on Page 15. Should i post analysis as i go, or can you lynch-happy kids wait for me to read the whole thread?

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Post Post #2059 (isolation #78) » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:23 pm

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Spambot wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:Ok, i'm on Page 15. Should i post analysis as i go, or can you lynch-happy kids wait for me to read the whole thread?

BM
Analysis as you go! Let's read the thread together. :o
How can i refuse an offer like this!? :D
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Post Post #2074 (isolation #79) » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:51 am

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Bookitty wrote:I'm not lurking intentionally. I'm very disenchanted with this game, as I'm sure a great many people are, and I don't have a lot to contribute right now. Being trolled tends to destroy my enjoyment and involvement in a given game, and I don't really feel like doing a great deal of analysis (as normally I would) in this case. It feels like a lot of work for basically no reason, and I'm not doing it.

It's possible I'll get over my mental block on this game, but right now I am having a hard time caring if I'm lynched or not. I'm not scum, but I don't have any better insights than anyone else, so I suppose it doesn't really matter.

I would note that Battle Mage has been here from the start and there is no valid reason for him to have to "catch up" with the game from the start. That's a bogus excuse, and I'm surprised no one else has jumped on him for it, given the level of vitriol Vollkan has gotten for what is, in fact, ALWAYS his playstyle. (Yes, I know, it's a meta read, and thus worthless. Still, I know it to be true.)
What the hell?
Do you realise how long this game has been going?
The fact i completely forgot about it, is indicative of my lack of awareness of whats happened. I dont quite see how you could construe that as anything other than genuine. What-you think i'm scum pretending not to know what has been going on, in a secret plot to write a massive analysis of an 80-page game, when i actually dont need to?
:lol:

I dont understand TS's insistence on lynching me atm, but i'm on Page 25. Just to prove that TS is talking bollocks, i'll post what ive got up till now, much as i dislike breaking my analysis of a game into chunks. -.-

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Post Post #2075 (isolation #80) » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:54 am

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Bookitty wrote:
Spambot wrote:Did Vollkan replace in a week ago and not read the thread? It's called context, cone.

Actually, you think my opinion is worthless because you can't recognize when you are being trolled and now you are fighting with me because I hurt your e-feelings and are responding emotionally.

:o
I dislike Setael's vote on Erg0, because I'm pretty sure he's town at this point. I think she's reacting to the people on the BM wagon, who are basically all calling each other scum. I think that makes it more likely they're town, actually, but other people may have other reactions.

That said, I still think BM is scum due to lurking (something he does a lot as scum), due to the "Oh, I forgot this game!" which is always scummy no matter who does it, and due to the weird chumminess with Spambot over their joint failure to read the thread.
Ftr, i believe my last post before i lost this game, was a post welcoming Spambot to the game. We've played together in the past. Frankly i resent to having to explain being genuinely friendly with someone. :x
But you know, you're right. I'll request replacement. Thanks.
Good. Saves me the trouble. :roll:

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Post Post #2076 (isolation #81) » Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:59 am

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Ok reading through from the beginning to get a feel for the game. I disagree with my original read on TS’s early play. With hindsight, I think it looks more protown than scummy. I don’t feel qualified to give a meta read of Mert, but his first post does not look great. Jordan follows my FoS of TS. Sikario’s play on Page 5 is the scummiest so far, although my meta of him is inconclusive. Quags first post is empty.
This by Jordan makes me uncomfortable: “I'm willing to sort of let Sikario go for now, because of BM's post”. Is it just me, or does 163 look like buddying up?
Post 176 by TS is craplogic. The whole situation regarding Peers ‘claiming cop’ shows TS in a bad light. MoS lurking? That’s not even a scumtell anymore. Its an MoStell. -.-
Jordan keeps his vote on Peers. ABR puts him at -1. Peers claims Vanilla. Bottom of Page 10 is ridiculously scummy by ABR. Post 267 is an odd backtrack from Quag.
Post 293 is clearly BS. Theres NO WAY Peers has a hot wife!!!
TS
: In Post 307, is the game you were referring to, the one I think it is? ;)
Jordan pops up to agree with me yet again. Post 349 by Zu Faul is very mysterious indeed. Interestingly, TS pops up to staunchly defend Jordan from MoS.
Post 379 is a goldmine. TS claims that Peers has not revealed his role, when in fact, he had already claimed vanilla. Zu Faul pops up to defend Jordan. Sikario continues to votehop like a madman. ABR claims that MoS is obviously a jester. Post 464 is disheartening. If ABR says it, it is significantly less likely to be true. Looking back, im not sure whether to believe that Quag hadn’t read his role pm. Interestingly, this is the one wagon that Jordan refrains from joining. Quag eventually gives in, but refuses to claim. He promises a case on TS, but he never fulfils this. Erg0 pops up to condemn another wagon. TS’s insistence on a claim is odd. As is her desire to seek a claim out of ALREADY CLAIMED PEERS. 0.o
Post 593 by MoS is craplogic. Post 599 is WIFOM.

-Page 25

I'll read more now, and when ive finished the whole game, i'll make my vote.

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Post Post #2085 (isolation #82) » Sat Mar 15, 2008 3:15 am

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Spambot wrote:
schismatized wrote:Its tough keeping a low profile.
Are you a jester? Jester's are retarded. I think you're just awful, lazy scum who wants us to think that.

Please die.
yo man, hows the reading coming?

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Post Post #2103 (isolation #83) » Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:51 am

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i dont recall Schis voting for himself..
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Post Post #2107 (isolation #84) » Mon Mar 17, 2008 10:17 am

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schismatized wrote:fuck off TS god damn shit mother fucking cock licker. all these damn shit cunts gonna kill my sickle-celled negro ass.
Modkill pl0x... :x
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Post Post #2162 (isolation #85) » Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:28 am

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Toaster Strudel wrote:Battle Mage has settled back into lurking mode.
Actually, ive had a lot on, what with 2 new modded games starting, significant analysis requirements in other games, and family staying for the weekend. Dont worry, this game is next on my read list.

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Post Post #2164 (isolation #86) » Sun Mar 23, 2008 5:27 am

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Toaster Strudel wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Toaster Strudel wrote:Battle Mage has settled back into lurking mode.
Actually, ive had a lot on, what with 2 new modded games starting, significant analysis requirements in other games, and family staying for the weekend. Dont worry, this game is next on my read list.
Hammer schis now, read later. ;-)
If my read so far is anything to go by, you're the last person i'll be following blind onto a bandwagon! rofl
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Post Post #2207 (isolation #87) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:01 am

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Toaster Strudel wrote:Last night we had two kills. The doctor and the jailkeeper are dead. The roleblocker might have targeted the right player - if someone sent in a roleblock, please come forward if you think you might have stopped a killer (bear in mind there might be a vig).

I'm going to guess here that the highest probability of scum lays with the lurkers. Who might be too lazy to send a NK?

1. YagamiLight (last seen onsite Feb 11)
3: Sir Tornado spambot (attendance very spotty)

7: Neo-Viper Bookitty Flameaxe (regularly active)
1: Zu_Faul (regularly active)
4: JordanA24 (regularly active)
5: Albert B. Rampage Xylthixlm (regularly active)
8: Sikario8 Setael (regularly active)
9: Elmo IH (regularly active, mostly GD)
10: hasdfgas (regularly active)
11: Paradox244 Quagmire Vollkan (regularly active)

Mmm... maybe not. There is more than 2 scum, so one of them should be able to send in the nightkill. Bizarre.
Why do you only look at about 2/3 of the players list here?
This is smelling like a gambit.

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Post Post #2208 (isolation #88) » Sun Apr 06, 2008 2:02 am

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hasdgfas wrote:Hi, remember me? The CPR doc? I targeted someone last night, and because he/she isn't dead, that means someone else targeted him/her for death as well. Based on who I targeted, I'm guessing it was a vig who targeted this person, but I'm not sure. Just thought I'd throw that out there. I'm not saying who I targeted yet, but since I've already claimed, this info might be useful.
if the vig targetted the same person as you, what do you suppose happened to the mafia kill?

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Post Post #2217 (isolation #89) » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:43 pm

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Toaster Strudel wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:Why do you only look at about 2/3 of the players list here?
The rest are VERY OBVIOUSLY active and their lurking doesn't need to be weighed by the lurkometer. The lurkometer is a precision instrument. Putting you or me on it would be like weighing a rhino on a milligram scale.
lol.

Panzer?

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Post Post #2219 (isolation #90) » Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:14 am

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the last of which was over a fortnight ago. Nuff said?

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Post Post #2225 (isolation #91) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:27 am

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what??
Vote: Zu Faul

Yes there is a reason for this. lol

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Post Post #2229 (isolation #92) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:33 am

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if i have to read the entire game and post analysis of it, so do you. Get reading boyo.

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Post Post #2234 (isolation #93) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 10:46 am

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oh and sorry for calling u 'boyo' when u are clearly female. lol
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Post Post #2236 (isolation #94) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:33 am

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which people are you referring to in particular?

As far as i'm aware, only a very small group hate me. I suggest you take what they say with a pinch of salt :P

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Post Post #2238 (isolation #95) » Wed Apr 09, 2008 11:40 pm

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right... >.>

Im on page 53 now. still reading.
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Post Post #2239 (isolation #96) » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:05 am

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right ok, i'm gonna post my analysis from where i got upto last time.

Yos’s 609 is ringing true to me… :roll:
MoS is giving me townvibes. Post 636 by Jordan stinks. Zu Faul seems CERTAIN ABR is town. He then refuses to say why, and Erg0 steps in to save him. Post 695 is a lot better from Jordan-except the last paragraph, which seems to further indicate a connection between him and TS. Post 673 by Zu Faul is very OMGUSy, and STILL evades the question. TS pushes a case on Yos. ABR defends him on meta grounds. Then moves onto Hasdgfas. On the other hand, her comments about Quag raise some important, relevant questions. TS’s 736 is the epitomy of stupidity. -.-
Not sure why Hasdgfas backs down to it. 758 is scummy too. In 772 TS claims her 3 top suspects are:
Hasdgfas
Yosarian2 (confirmed town)
Peers (confirmed town)
In DGB-logic, that seems to indicate that Has could be scum, who TS is bussing.
By Page 33 I think TS is overdoing the whole martyr act. Post 824 is particularly odd seeing as TS already stated that she was unsure about whether Quag’s not reading his role pm was scummy, and had failed to come up with anything to back up that conclusion. I also really don’t like the way she clings to the policy vote thing, in an attempt to undermine any pressure on her. 2 posts later, she describes Quag as ‘overwhelmingly and wildly scummy’. 0.o
Although he is slightly more coherent than TS, I don’t like Jordan’s vote on the popular bandwagon. YL’s first post is interesting, as he claims that neither TS, Jordan or Zu Faul have done anything scummy enough to be commented on. :o
His 2 subsequent posts give protown vibes however.
843 is fairly logical from Quag. Bookitty bandwagons, and ABR buttkisses.
Post 857- TS claims not to know what a ‘bandwagon’ is. Rofl! :D
872 shows TS in a truly OMGUSsy light. Apparently she only finds people townie if they do as she says.
I don’t understand post 894. Explanation TS?
Bookitty too feels town. IH replaces in, and claims suspicion of Panzer. But he fails to elaborate on these.
ABR literally distracts the town from scumhunting. Note to self, stop calling ABR, ABR.

Page 39. Post 972 by Yos points out TS’s opportunism. Erg0 falls into the same trap as TS regarding the Peers-claim. TS suggests that Peers’ claim is protown, but still wants him lynched. Post 1002 just annoys me. TS is so obvious its untrue. 0.o
Rampage appears to be flirting with Bookitty. Lol Happy scumday btw.
TS claims suspicion of:
Quagmire
YagamiLight
Peers
MoS
Yos2
Hasdgfas

3 of these have already died and come up town. They also encompassed pretty much all the contributing players at the time, with the notable exceptions of Erg0 and ABR. Quag buttkisses MoS some more. Jordan again seems reluctant to be disagreeable on Page 46. Setael makes a case on Jordan, and for once, TS is reluctant to follow! :o
Then she abandons the dead Quag wagon, and instead piles onto MoS as an alternative to the Scope-lynch. She is forced to acknowledged the substance of the Jordan-pressure, but instead stands by her original suspects, including YL, who I haven’t noticed anything of for AGES…
1184 by DGB made me ROFL. :D
1224 by Hasdgfas is UBER-SCUMMY. TS futilly tries to save Peers with any alternative wagon. IH seems very sure that Scope is town… :o

Page 52. Post 1303 by Erg0 is right on the money. Quag shows a distinct lack of opportunism. Claims vanilla. Jordan continues to tunnel-vision him. TS attacks Hasdgfas for not attacking Quag. -.-
In 1330 Panzer claims that he doesn’t like Quags claim, but doesn’t want to join the wagon in case it looks bad. :shock:
After all that, Quag does save his own ass and vote for Peers. Setael makes the casting vote which saves Quag. Erg0 claims assurity that Peers is scum. Post 1346, TS backtracks, and says that Peers now looks townie. 1374 is scummy too. Is there any point me reading any more?
Its pretty clear who needs to die today.

Unvote, Vote: TS


@Zu Faul-i know there was a reason i found you immensely scummy at the end of yesterday, but i cant find it in my notes. I'll keep reading, but its hard to see you being scummier than TS. :P

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Post Post #2242 (isolation #97) » Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:27 am

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zu_Faul wrote:Ah. You meant a reason for voting me.

Now that's stupid. You vote me for nothing and hope a bandwagon forms on me, after some guys yesterday already said they were suspicious of me.
Vote: Battle Mage
lol yeh, i was really hoping a bandwagon would form on ABSOLUTELY NO REASONING within the space of 3 or 4 posts. :lol:

Dont get too comfortable. There was definitely something you did to make me wary of you. I'm still reading through. The knee-jerk OMGUS doesnt exactly help your cause. :P

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Post Post #2249 (isolation #98) » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:06 am

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zu_Faul wrote:BM said there was a reason but he never mentioned one. So there was none other than trying to start a baseless wagon. It's not OMGUS, it's reasonable to say it's scummy.
F**k this. If theres one thing i hate more than being fed a bunch of bs, its being called a liar. There was a reason, and guess what? Just to shut you up, i'm gonna damn well find it.

In the meantime, you still havent explained why you think i would attempt to start a baseless wagon, only to abandon it immediately after about 3 posts? Its nice that you can cite scumtells till the cows come home, but until you can put a motive to something, it is wrong to call it scummy.

Christ, you're worse than TS. :shock:

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Post Post #2251 (isolation #99) » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:35 am

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zu_Faul wrote:Because you are scum and saw no one hopped on it.
only 4 people had even posted. And one of them hasnt read the game yet. Tell me, Zu Faul, do you think i have mental issues? Do you think i am the thickest guy on the planet? As scum, i dont have the unbridled optimism that allows me to think that by casting a vote and promising forthcoming reasoning, i will somehow get a mislynch without giving any information whatsoever?

Think about this. Then unvote. Then hide your head in shame.

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Post Post #2253 (isolation #100) » Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:45 am

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zu_Faul wrote:I thought you had "improved" and didn't do dumb things like randomly voting people for no good reason at all Day 3.
THERE WAS A GOOD REASON!!!!!!!!! :shock: :shock: omfg
Zu Faul wrote: Maybe scummy was the wrong word in this case and it was stupid. Your play makes as few sense as scum as it does as town.
unvote
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right, now we are getting somewhere. Now, what are your thoughts on TS?
PBPA?

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Post Post #2256 (isolation #101) » Fri Apr 11, 2008 7:29 am

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elvis_knits wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
zu_Faul wrote:BM said there was a reason but he never mentioned one. So there was none other than trying to start a baseless wagon. It's not OMGUS, it's reasonable to say it's scummy.
F**k this. If theres one thing i hate more than being fed a bunch of bs, its being called a liar. There was a reason, and guess what? Just to shut you up, i'm gonna damn well find it.
Usually if you have a reason, you don't have to go "find it."
because we just a night phase, and during that time, i forgot. My ability to remember regarding this game is evidently not the greatest. :P
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Post Post #2260 (isolation #102) » Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:34 am

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not enough data? DGB is that you!? 0.o
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Post Post #2262 (isolation #103) » Sat Apr 12, 2008 2:54 am

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rofl, harsh words Vollkan. In fairness, i wish more people would look at previous wagons in some of my other games. When you get a few days in, it can be really useful to see who has been wagonning frequently, and who has been a little TOO careful with their vote. Because it isnt done alot anymore, i suspect alot of scum fall into the trap of not being concious about it.

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Post Post #2265 (isolation #104) » Sat Apr 12, 2008 5:50 am

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TS giving advice on avoiding bandwagonning relentlessly?
Why does that seem like the greatest logical fallacy of all!?

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Post Post #2268 (isolation #105) » Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:18 am

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-.-
so this is why Schis went spaz... :roll:
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Post Post #2270 (isolation #106) » Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:33 am

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have u read more than upto page 6 yet? -.-
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Post Post #2272 (isolation #107) » Mon Apr 14, 2008 5:17 am

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i will, in good time. Your vote pleases me. All is forgiven. :)
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Post Post #2279 (isolation #108) » Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:27 am

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Toaster Strudel wrote:It's clear that elvis_knits has hardly read the game, and what little she read, was read with a mind to find reasons to find me scummy, and did not pick up on the one overwhelming reason why I shouldn't be lynched.

Perhaps the more astute players have picked up on it, and might care to point it out to her, or, preferably, to just tell her to put a sock in it, and find some real scum.
Appeal to Authority.
But, i cant deny, i'm intrigued. Whats this reason not to lynch you?

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Post Post #2294 (isolation #109) » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:25 am

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Rofl! I just did a DGB!

Now who feels like Al Gore!? :D
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Post Post #2306 (isolation #110) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:28 am

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Prod Jordan please.
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Post Post #2308 (isolation #111) » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:54 am

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heck, prod Xyl too while you're there! :P
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Post Post #2341 (isolation #112) » Fri May 02, 2008 6:45 am

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i'll post content here tomorrow. Ive got a bit of a read to do. :P
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Post Post #2380 (isolation #113) » Tue May 06, 2008 10:05 am

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DarlaBlueEyes wrote:I am not sure who I want to lynch after reading everything but my top suspects are TS and EK
So basically, you want to join a bandwagon on either of the two most controversial players. But, what do you think of the fact they are arguing? Do you really think that they are BOTH scum?
If not, which do you think is more likely to be scum?

This is so non-committal, its unbelievable.

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Post Post #2421 (isolation #114) » Wed May 21, 2008 11:23 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:This lack of deaths is interesting.
I'll believe it when i see it. ;)

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Post Post #2428 (isolation #115) » Thu May 22, 2008 8:32 am

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I got prodded, having not posted for 8 hours.
I'm really glad to see Shanba stepping upto the plate on this issue of lurking. :D


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Post Post #2429 (isolation #116) » Thu May 22, 2008 8:35 am

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oh btw, i've been continuing my reread, and i think we should kick off with a
Vote: Zu Faul
.

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Post Post #2444 (isolation #117) » Sat May 24, 2008 2:45 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:vollkan and elvis_knits, answer my post 2431.
why not me?

Actually, i dont really understand the CPR Doc mechanic. So if someone can please explain that, it might help... lol

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Post Post #2445 (isolation #118) » Sat May 24, 2008 2:49 am

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zu_Faul wrote:
elvis_knits wrote:So I looked at zu_faul's posts in isolation and I see a fair amount of fighting/animosity between him and TS. Granted, some of it was like four months ago. But he does call her a retard several times. Yet he didn't want to lynch her yesterday.

That is not logical. Unless he's scum and found TS useful because she was helping get so many townies lynched.

vote zu_faul
Nice OMGUS. And I never palyed with TS before. I had to get used to her style. BTW you are still scum.
Vote: elvis_knits
You've never played with DGB??
Zu Faul wrote: BM's retarded as yesterday.
Come up with some facts, or piss off.
Zu Faul wrote:
DarlaBlueEyes wrote:this is muy muy interesante , I MA leaning towards a Zu lynch as well, Im inclined to believe hasdhdgasadcow.
Yeah, let's not do some work and just jump on the forming bandwagon, yeah. **** you.
[/quote]

You make it sound like it's personal... 0.o

Tell me, do you have any suspicions that aren't doused in OMGUS?

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Post Post #2446 (isolation #119) » Sat May 24, 2008 2:51 am

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zu_Faul wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:I, personally, am going to reread zu after I get back from work today because I need to strengthen my case on him.
When you look at a player's posts with the intention on finding him scummy, you will always succeed. You have to approach my posts with an open mind.
QFT. Having said that, the fact he is reading before voting is a reassuring sign when compared to others...

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Post Post #2452 (isolation #120) » Sat May 24, 2008 6:46 am

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Oh, you can bet your life i have reason :D
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Post Post #2453 (isolation #121) » Sat May 24, 2008 6:47 am

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Battle Mage wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:vollkan and elvis_knits, answer my post 2431.
why not me?

Actually, i dont really understand the CPR Doc mechanic. So if someone can please explain that, it might help... lol

BM
an answer would be awesome, so i can make some sense of the current discussion.... :(

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Post Post #2466 (isolation #122) » Mon May 26, 2008 1:42 am

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hasdgfas wrote:
zu_Faul wrote:CPR doc kills his target, unless the target was also target of another kill, in which case all kills are prevented. Don't know what happens if there are two kills + cpr on one target.
Here's the way I understand it:

CPR Doc (me) is processed after all other actions on the person I target.
If they are alive when my action is processed, I kill them.
If they are dead when my action is processed, I revive them.
ok that makes sense. thanks.

What did you claim as your previous night targets again?

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Post Post #2468 (isolation #123) » Mon May 26, 2008 5:16 am

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Hmm the Peers choice makes sense. But why would Zu Faul be targetted on Night 2?

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Post Post #2473 (isolation #124) » Mon May 26, 2008 11:37 pm

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Xylthixlm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:Hmm the Peers choice makes sense. But why would Zu Faul be targetted on Night 2?

BM
Because hasdgfas thought Zu_Faul was scum, and was trying to kill him. It seems like hasdgfas might have saved him instead, since he didn't die and the werewolf kill is apparently missing that night. I have no idea why the werewolves would try to kill Zu_Faul, but if they did, he obviously isn't one of them...
Thats what i'm saying. Why would the werewolves want to kill Z_F who hasnt claimed, and would be a good mislynch. Unless of course they thought Z_F was onto them.

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Post Post #2477 (isolation #125) » Tue May 27, 2008 8:50 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:Hmm the Peers choice makes sense. But why would Zu Faul be targetted on Night 2?

BM
Because hasdgfas thought Zu_Faul was scum, and was trying to kill him. It seems like hasdgfas might have saved him instead, since he didn't die and the werewolf kill is apparently missing that night. I have no idea why the werewolves would try to kill Zu_Faul, but if they did, he obviously isn't one of them...
Thats what i'm saying. Why would the werewolves want to kill Z_F who hasnt claimed, and would be a good mislynch. Unless of course they thought Z_F was onto them.

BM
Read what I wrote again. I'm saying Zu_Faul is
not
a werewolf.
Are you just pretending to be thick? :x
Or is it a case of, you failing to acknowledge anyone else's PoV.

I'll rephrase to it's as simple as possible for you, so there is no excuse for your lack of comprehension.

My point is, ASSUMING Zu Faul was targetted by the werewolves, what MOTIVE would they have for doing so?

I've already answered, but if you have an alternative suggestion, let it be known.

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Post Post #2479 (isolation #126) » Tue May 27, 2008 9:05 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:Battle Mage, your seemed to have completely missed the point of
my
post. You wrote "That's what I'm saying", but if you were really saying the same thing I am,
you wouldn't be voting Zu_Faul
. Clear enough?
Unvote, Vote: Xylthixm


You seem to be under the misapprehension that because i vote someone, it means i'm switched off, and not playing the game any more.

Just because you think Zu Faul is town, and i think he is scum, does not mean that we cant discuss the game. The fact is, whilst you seem keen to defend Zu Faul, you admit yourself you can't explain why the wolves would have targetted him on Night 2. THAT is the point i am drawing on.
It is also the point i want a response on. See my previous post.

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Post Post #2481 (isolation #127) » Tue May 27, 2008 9:09 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:
zu_Faul wrote:BM means that he thinks there is no reason why I should be targetted by the Werewolves, unless I was onto something when I accused them.
I know that's what BM means. That wasn't what
I
meant.
it's what you SAID. :shock:

Stop stalling and answer my question.

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Post Post #2485 (isolation #128) » Tue May 27, 2008 9:17 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:Wow. That was ... startlingly overdefensive. I wasn't even accusing BM of anything, and now he's attacking me for ... some reason.

BM, do you think I'm scum?
Overdefensive? Again, you seem to think that the only time a player can attack someone, is if they have been attacked themselves. It's this exact mentality that stinks of scum. No townie would be so consumed by OMGUS.

Yup, i think you're scum.

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Post Post #2486 (isolation #129) » Tue May 27, 2008 9:20 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
zu_Faul wrote:BM means that he thinks there is no reason why I should be targetted by the Werewolves, unless I was onto something when I accused them.
I know that's what BM means. That wasn't what
I
meant.
it's what you SAID. :shock:

Stop stalling and answer my question.

BM
Xylthixlm wrote:Because hasdgfas thought Zu_Faul was scum, and was trying to kill him. It seems like hasdgfas might have saved him instead, since he didn't die and the werewolf kill is apparently missing that night. I have no idea why the werewolves would try to kill Zu_Faul, but if they did,
he obviously isn't one of them.
..
Bolded for emphasis.

My
entire point
was that the evidence indicates Zu_Faul is not a werewolf! You are drawing a
completely
different meaning from what I wrote than what I intended. And now you're attacking me for clarifying.

BM, if you're town, you need to calm down and think a bit.
Not good enough. Yes, you made the point that Zu Faul was townie. Thats nice, but i dont actually care. The important point i am drawing on, is that you had NO suggestion of why the wolves would kill Zu Faul. You invalidated your entire point by pointing out the big hole in your reasoning. You have STILL failed to recognise this, which is why i am sure you are scum. Only scum would follow ridiculous reasoning in order to defend a player, in the manner you have.

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Post Post #2488 (isolation #130) » Tue May 27, 2008 9:24 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:And no, I'm not going to speculate on why the werewolves would try to kill Zu_Faul. Any argument that Zu_Faul is scum because the scum wouldn't kill him is
deep
into WIFOM territory.
*sigh*

I'm NOT arguing that Zu Faul is scum because the scum didnt kill him. I'm saying that your reasoning for thinking he is town, has a massive hole in it, and im giving you the chance to complete the picture. You have clearly rejected this opportunity, and yet your vote is still not on him. The setup speculation is WIFOM, as you so eloquently put it. So why do you really think he is town?

I want to hear ANY reason you think Wolves would want to kill Zu Faul, other than the one i have already given. Put your damn glasses on, and contribute.

Thanks.

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Post Post #2489 (isolation #131) » Tue May 27, 2008 9:24 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:Why do you think I'm scum?
see the above posts.

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Post Post #2491 (isolation #132) » Tue May 27, 2008 9:30 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:*blinks*

I'm not speculating about the setup. I'm drawing logical conclusions based on claims, night action results, and Occam's razor. It works really well.
BS. You still havent given any reason why Zu Faul would have been targetted by the wolves, nor have you given any reason other than this recent (from my PoV) revelation, for thinking Zu Faul is town.

Confirm Vote: Xylthixlm


I can't see that moving today.

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Post Post #2494 (isolation #133) » Tue May 27, 2008 9:47 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:I'm NOT arguing that Zu Faul is scum because the scum didnt kill him. I'm saying that your reasoning for thinking he is town, has a massive hole in it, and im giving you the chance to complete the picture. You have clearly rejected this opportunity, and yet your vote is still not on him.
Wait wait wait. Did you just say something to the effect of "If you don't have a good reason to think he's town, he must be scum"? Nice logical fallacy there, I almost missed it.

Vote: Battle Mage
Umm...no. 0.o

I said that if you cannot defend him on the basis of Hasdgfas' night action, on what grounds are you defending him?

NB: You have still given no explanation for this. Nice OMGUS though.

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Post Post #2496 (isolation #134) » Tue May 27, 2008 9:52 am

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Flameaxe wrote:BM, stop being fucking retarded.
Fuck off. Are you even reading the game any more? If so, why arent you voting for Xylthixlm?

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Post Post #2498 (isolation #135) » Tue May 27, 2008 9:58 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:You're clearly saying that if I can't defend him, I should be voting him. That's a fallacy.
and?

Ok, lets say you're right. Let's say i used a fallacy. (i didnt, but im just proving a point here).

That is not a scumtell.

Of course, in reality, i didnt use a fallacy. It is not inaccurate to say that if there is a strong case against someone, and you have no reason to dispute it, you should vote for them. I'm bored of giving you chances. My vote stands now, and its up to everyone else to judge whether your deliberate avoiding of the questions posed to you, is scummy or very scummy.

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Post Post #2500 (isolation #136) » Tue May 27, 2008 10:10 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:I'm starting to think that Battle Mage is a wolf, and the reason he's so vehement about my logic being flawed is that the wolves
didn't
kill Zu_Faul. Interesting. I can't really think of another reason he'd attach so much importance to guessing who the wolves killed.
right. Because pointing out flaws in arguments is a scumtell right? :roll:

But, i'm glad to see you've admitted that your logic is flawed. Next step is fricking doing something about it!!! 0.o

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Post Post #2510 (isolation #137) » Wed May 28, 2008 1:00 am

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lol
Unvote


There's gotta be some sort of record for this... :P
elvis_knits wrote:I'd say that makes you a bad lynch.

Plus you seem to be making sense.
But in all seriousness-making sense? What exactly is he making sense about? As far as i can see, he isn't saying anything-so how the hell can he be saying anything sensible??

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Post Post #2511 (isolation #138) » Wed May 28, 2008 1:02 am

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Flameaxe wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Flameaxe wrote:BM, stop being fucking retarded.
Fuck off. Are you even reading the game any more? If so, why arent you voting for Xylthixlm?

BM
I am reading the game, and it clearly shows that you are being fucking retarded. So you fuck off.
wonderful. Now are you going to give some fucking input regarding why the wolves would target Zu Faul? Or do you think Hasdgfas is lying?

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Post Post #2512 (isolation #139) » Wed May 28, 2008 1:03 am

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zu_Faul wrote:
hasdgfas wrote:Xyl, I can understand what you're saying, but I have a question for you.

Do you think the wolves would target zu two nights in a row?
Why do you want to kill me that bad :(
presumably if he targetted u a second time, he wanted to protect u, as opposed to kill you.

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Post Post #2514 (isolation #140) » Wed May 28, 2008 3:38 am

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elvis_knits wrote:I think the question is why would the
wolves
want to kill zu that bad.
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Post Post #2517 (isolation #141) » Fri May 30, 2008 6:20 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:I think that the issue will become clearer later, with more information. Until we have that information, Zu_Faul is a bad lynch.
But who makes a good lynch is quite evidently dependent on who Zu Faul was suspicious of, as obviously, they are the people who would have most cause to try to kill him, yes?

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Post Post #2519 (isolation #142) » Fri May 30, 2008 8:15 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:BM, what changed your mind about my argument being crap?
you dont have an argument. Your general play was crap, and i stand by that. But ive given up trying to get anything out of you. Hopefully you'll be NKed, or just lurk your way to replacement. Then we might make some progress.

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Post Post #2525 (isolation #143) » Sat May 31, 2008 3:04 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:BM, what changed your mind about my argument being crap?
you dont have an argument. Your general play was crap, and i stand by that. But ive given up trying to get anything out of you. Hopefully you'll be NKed, or just lurk your way to replacement. Then we might make some progress.

BM
BM, what changed your mind about Zu_Faul being scum?
My mind hasnt changed. I still fail to see anyone providing a defence for Zu Faul. Thats gotta be the biggest tell of all. The only scenario in which he is not scum is currently being explored. Assuming nothing revelationary comes out there, i'll be re-voting real soon, dw. :D

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Post Post #2526 (isolation #144) » Sat May 31, 2008 3:09 am

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vollkan wrote:
BM wrote: Not good enough. Yes, you made the point that Zu Faul was townie. Thats nice, but i dont actually care. The important point i am drawing on, is that you had NO suggestion of why the wolves would kill Zu Faul. You invalidated your entire point by pointing out the big hole in your reasoning. You have STILL failed to recognise this, which is why i am sure you are scum. Only scum would follow ridiculous reasoning in order to defend a player, in the manner you have.
This logic makes my eyes bleed.

Because Xyl can't explain why scum would kill town-Zu, his point is invalid? The way the numbers have gone indicates that Zu is likely not wolf. If you can't explain WHY Zu would be targeted, that hardly refutes the initial observations.
In my mind, it does just that. In mafia, you can make a point about someones actions, and then you back it up with a motive. If someone makes the most retarded comment in the world, BUT there is no reason they are more likely to do that as scum than as town, then there is no motive, and it cant be considered a scumtell.

Likewise in this instance, the assumption being put forward is that Zu Faul was targetted by the Wolves two nights in a row. Now, we are analysing what incentive/reasoning the wolves would have to do so. If there is nobody who Zu Faul was especially suspicious of, and thus, no major reason why he would be targetted twice in a row, we have to assume BS.
Vollkan wrote: That said, the apparent targeting of Zu twice is a cause for concern. The only way around that I could think of would be a WIFOMY scum thinking "zu won't be protected twice".
Thats poor. Why are you stretching so far to try and defend him?

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Post Post #2531 (isolation #145) » Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:52 am

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IH wrote:Also, we've not sunk to listening to BM in my absence, have we?
No need to worry about that. :roll:
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Post Post #2532 (isolation #146) » Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:55 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:
Battle Mage wrote:In my mind, it does just that. In mafia, you can make a point about someones actions, and then you back it up with a motive. If someone makes the most retarded comment in the world, BUT there is no reason they are more likely to do that as scum than as town, then there is no motive, and it cant be considered a scumtell.
So you're saying that the fact that you're making the most retarded comments in the world is not a scumtell. Gotcha.
Not really, but i guess you can apply it to that scenario too.
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Xylthixlm wrote:BM, what changed your mind about Zu_Faul being scum?
My mind hasnt changed.
Really. Because it sure looked like you were assuming Zu_Faul was not scum in an earlier comment. Where was it...
Battle Mage wrote:But who makes a good lynch is quite evidently dependent on who Zu Faul was suspicious of, as obviously, they are the people who would have most cause to try to kill him, yes?
:?
*sigh*

Its a SCENARIO. Because nobody wants to give any feedback on MY point of view, i'm pointing out that, if you really believed the bs you are spouting, then there is a course of action you are following, but...inexplicably...aren't!

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Post Post #2535 (isolation #147) » Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:10 am

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geez, this is becoming the new V/LA thread. :(
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Post Post #2538 (isolation #148) » Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:10 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:I need to reread what I said in this game when I was paying attention.
That'll be a short reread then. 0.o

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Post Post #2545 (isolation #149) » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:00 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:We need a vote count.
why? are you having trouble counting the votes we have so far? lol
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Post Post #2546 (isolation #150) » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:05 am

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vollkan wrote:
BM wrote: In my mind, it does just that. In mafia, you can make a point about someones actions, and then you back it up with a motive. If someone makes the most retarded comment in the world, BUT there is no reason they are more likely to do that as scum than as town, then there is no motive, and it cant be considered a scumtell.

Likewise in this instance, the assumption being put forward is that Zu Faul was targetted by the Wolves two nights in a row. Now, we are analysing what incentive/reasoning the wolves would have to do so. If there is nobody who Zu Faul was especially suspicious of, and thus, no major reason why he would be targetted twice in a row, we have to assume BS.
False comparison.

The first logic:
Player A does retarded thing X
Player B accuses Player A of being scum for doing X
Player B's accusation fails, since Player B cannot positively explain would do X over town doing it.

I agree entirely with the above, and it has great application in relation to lurking.

Now, your second logic:
Player A suggests that the scum have done X on observation
Player A is unable to explain why scum have done X

Does this mean that A's suggestion falls flat?

I don't think so. If all the evidence attests to X happening, but you can't explain why, there are two possibilities:
1) X did not happen;
2) The scum motivation is not objectively apparent

Your entire argument here, BM, rests on presuming that 1) is the case, which I think is dubious at best.
Thats weak. 2 is more of an excuse than a reason. Scum dont do things for 'no reason'. Commenting on the reason for scum actions is of course WIFOM to an extent, but in this instance, it is completely logical to see that there is a credibility issue in Hasdgfas/Zu Faul's story. Instead, you choose to claim that 'all evidence attests to Hasdgfas telling the truth', which seems rather an odd assumption-and given the likelyhood of the alternative, i still think you are stretching here.

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Post Post #2548 (isolation #151) » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:11 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:BM, do you have all the information the scum do?

If not, why do you think you should be able to guess the scum's reasons for doing what they do?
some things you dont need to guess. some things just dont make sense as scum. spending 2 nights trying to kill Zu Faul is one of them.

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Post Post #2550 (isolation #152) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:49 am

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elvis_knits wrote:What are you saying?
I'm saying that Hasdgfas's claim concerning Zu Faul is markedly inconsistent with any logical interpretation of scum behaviour. In fact, it'd be interesting to hear Hasdgfas's opinion on his results.

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Post Post #2552 (isolation #153) » Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:42 pm

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has Zu Faul claimed already?
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Post Post #2557 (isolation #154) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 6:58 am

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Why does Xyl have 2 votes?
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Post Post #2559 (isolation #155) » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:32 pm

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so...its a mod error then? :P
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Post Post #2561 (isolation #156) » Thu Jun 12, 2008 3:58 am

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I would, except i dont appear to have a vote. lol
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Post Post #2564 (isolation #157) » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:04 am

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IH wrote:Obviously you don't DESERVE to have a vote. = P
Lol maybe Xyl steals the votes of people when they try to vote for him. I nominate YOU to be the first to try.

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Post Post #2575 (isolation #158) » Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:09 am

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shhh, he's breadcrumbing! :P
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Post Post #2578 (isolation #159) » Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:54 pm

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WE NEED A MOD.
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Post Post #2582 (isolation #160) » Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:42 am

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Unvote, Vote: Flameaxe
...

we still need a Mod.

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Post Post #2589 (isolation #161) » Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:38 pm

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i really wouldnt worry about it. lol
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Post Post #2595 (isolation #162) » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:09 am

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zu_Faul wrote:Even if Shanba is gone, isn't JDodge back up mod?
that really says it all... lol

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*Also, 2 posts in one day?? things might be picking up! :P
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Post Post #2597 (isolation #163) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:41 am

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[quote="zu_Faul"]I actually pmed JDodge.[/quote

you...idiot... -.-
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Post Post #2600 (isolation #164) » Mon Jul 14, 2008 10:57 am

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Flameaxe wrote:Posting to say hi. What's up, Bm? You didn't sign your last post...
neither did you lol. :P

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Post Post #2605 (isolation #165) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:41 am

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it's nice that this thread has become a sort of social group. :P

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Post Post #2607 (isolation #166) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:28 am

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DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:You say that like this thread used to be something else...
lol
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Post Post #2610 (isolation #167) » Sat Jul 19, 2008 6:50 am

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Abandon never OMGUS votes me.
vote: Abandon


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Post Post #2616 (isolation #168) » Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:00 am

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meh.
Unvote, Vote: Abstain


I'll go with the majority.

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Post Post #2621 (isolation #169) » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:53 pm

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/in i guess
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Post Post #2626 (isolation #170) » Mon Jul 21, 2008 6:58 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:Quote your PMs and send them to Stoofer.
I think you may have missed the fact that this game is over 100 pages long. I highly doubt that the majority of the players still have their original role pms.

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Post Post #2628 (isolation #171) » Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:05 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:Then send your roles.
done.
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Post Post #2631 (isolation #172) » Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:20 pm

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well guys, nice playing with ya. :P
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Post Post #2634 (isolation #173) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:05 am

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Mr Stoofer wrote:
So I'm sorry but this game is dead!

Black marks will be placed against the Mods' names.
racist... ;)
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Post Post #2636 (isolation #174) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:49 am

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I was really scum... lol
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Post Post #2638 (isolation #175) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 5:51 am

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hasdgfas wrote:I was really CPR doc. I really want to know what zu was
he was scum. obviously. :roll:
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Post Post #2640 (isolation #176) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:45 am

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lol
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Post Post #2644 (isolation #177) » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:17 pm

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lol im not sure it was really possible for us to lose this game, but a draw saves everyone alot of time. :P
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Post Post #2646 (isolation #178) » Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:04 am

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DrippingGoofball wrote:Who were the other scum? BM, zu_Faul, who else?
why do you care? you weren't even in this game? ;)

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Post Post #2651 (isolation #179) » Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:25 am

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DarlaBlueEyes wrote:I was a Bulletproof Jack of All Trades.

:D
nice! :P

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Post Post #2655 (isolation #180) » Sun Jul 27, 2008 10:39 pm

Post by Battle Mage »

I was the Evil Mod. I win when the Mod dies and the game gets abandoned and MoS cries. :D WOOT!
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2020 Stats - 31 completed games:

Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4

winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%
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