Mini 1824: Grandest Idea Mafia - Game over!

[farside22]

VOTE: Trickster fate

I can't imagine a pro-town player getting rid of that role.

[farside22]

Hahaha I beat you mod!!

I'm terribly bored.

[farside22]

VOTE: Trickster fate

I can't imagine a pro-town player getting rid of that role.

I would Discard it, because I don't have confidence enough to believe I wouldn't just be committing suicide

VOTE: shadow

VOTE: Shadow_step

Town Surgeon is powerful. Did you discard it for scum?

Town

Yah!!!

I was concerned a bit with all the discarded roles being town if I was one of the few fools that decided to go that way too.

I have McMenno opposite request.
I want everyone to target me tonight.

[farside22]

okay, I want to make one thing clear here:

DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, TARGET ME AT NIGHT

What's up with the unprovoked softclaim?

VOTE: Shadow_step

Town Surgeon is powerful. Did you discard it for scum?

yes

Back to Lane's comment.
The reason I said what I did is if you have the role all you have to say is I plan on shoot x day 1 and if I die know that he/she is town.

[farside22]

How am I supposed to know you're not a role that kills everyone who targets you

Did you look at the abilities that are available?

[farside22]

The reason I said what I did is if you have the role all you have to say is I plan on shoot x day 1 and if I die know that he/she is town.

Can you explain it this, I didn't get you

Trickster role that he dumped is as follows:

Town Compulsive Mafia Killer

Each night, this player MUST target someone.

If the targetted player is mafia, the target dies.
If the targetted player is town, then the player dies while the target lives.
Otherwise, both players die.

[farside22]

That would be dangerous if there was a mafia redirector

the chances of that are ???????

[farside22]

I think Titus rolled scum.

i think so to.

VOTE: titus

[farside22]

I could see Trickster discarding a role like this. It's very likely he'd die, bring the numbers to even and town wouldn't know who he targeted or his target would die to scum.

SCUM ALERT

[farside22]

Anyway I've never played this setup before, so what happens with the roles you choose to be your alignment?

nothing

Farside I think you are scum, what do you think about that?

Sadly I think you maybe town.

[farside22]

Docs do suck. I basically single handedly won as a hider in this. I cannot see why anyone discards compulsive mafia killer.

Now that Farside unvoted

VOTE: SS

I could be way off though. Anyone else think titus would pick scum?

me, me
Did you know that SS didn't pick the card that Titus was referring to in the post she voted for him?

[farside22]

Titus and Eggman are scum - Easy game.

I got titus/Lamist/Ryan

[farside22]

Docs do suck. I basically single handedly won as a hider in this. I cannot see why anyone discards compulsive mafia killer.

Now that Farside unvoted

VOTE: SS

I could be way off though. Anyone else think titus would pick scum?

me, me
Did you know that SS didn't pick the card that Titus was referring to in the post she voted for him?

You mean his Discard? Yeah, why?

She voted SS for that reason.
A reason for a card he ditched, but it wasn't the card he ditched, it belonged to Trickster.

[farside22]

Titus and Eggman are scum - Easy game.

I got titus/Lamist/Ryan/Trickster Fate

Fixed

I'm assuming more then one scum group like the last game I was in.

[farside22]

Wow, ok so for some reason I was thinking the same thing lol. That's why I was voting him too...

UNVOTE:

Why did that happen?

Discards

McMenno: Town Suicidal Neighbor Bomber

Shadow_step: Town Surgeon

eagerSnake: Town White Flag Dis-enabler

LAMIST: Vanilla Townie

Vedith: Alien Poison Doctor Fire Fighter Doctor

Tricksted Fate: Town Compulsive Mafia Killer

The MM: Vanila Townie

Radical Rat: Town Compulsive Self-Hammerer

lane0168: Town Paranoid Paranoidiser

farside22: Mafia 1-shot Censor

Eggman: Town Incompetent Investigator

Titus: Role-Informed Townie

RyanK: Lyncher Vanilla

Note: the name colors indicate the alignment of the discarded role.

[farside22]

Wait no its not. Wtf why am I so confused. I voted cause he got rid of surgeon. But somewhere along the way I was thinking he discarded compulsive mafia killer.

That was Trickster that got rid of the ability.
I was never voting ss either.

[farside22]

he's not

And how do you know that?

VOTE: Ryan

[farside22]

Nope

Hmmm... Then it was Farside I assume.

Nope.

Why you vote for ss and why did my unvote matter, when I wasn't voting for him?

[farside22]

I highly doubt a protective role would want to reveal himself.

Are you a protective role?

No.

You should claim.

Vanilla Townie.

Scum

[farside22]

Nope.

Why you vote for ss and why did my unvote matter, when I wasn't voting for him?

I didn't vote SS?

She's talking to titus

This.

Sigh

[farside22]

Everyone visit

Spoiler:

MeMeno

farside!

Fixed

[farside22]

Question
Can the 2 players that target me just tell me who did it.
I'm not asking for a claiming, just clearing a player.....or 2.

Also can someone explain how Vedith is getting pregame info and so far one is untrue and he's claiming info on me.

Vote: vedith

[farside22]

okay just in case I get busy this message is for a very important player in the game.

Mr. Hound

Spoiler:

you have have received info that is wrong.
Not sure 100% but [url=http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Redirector]this is something I noted.
Thank you.

[farside22]

Farside just think about it, scum are going to hammer me.
Unvote and we can work out who is scum.

I believe you to be town anyway even if the pre game information is a lie.

unvote

I'll give this a day because more for info I'm waiting on then anything else.

Also you don't know where or why you are getting pre-game info?????

[farside22]

unvote

I'll give this a day because more for info I'm waiting on then anything else.

Also you don't know where or why you are getting pre-game info?????

Thanks Farside, I'll confirm who scum is shortly I promise!
I have no idea. Just said you're town, 1 doc and 1 faction.

Why did you believe the info?

[farside22]

Also can someone explain how Vedith is getting pregame info and so far one is untrue and he's claiming info on me.

Because scum?

I'd say that is pretty close to calling vedith scum.

[farside22]

Lamist: please explain how censoring a player would be town.
I saw it as a benefit for scum.
Second you think I'm asking people to target me because p go and I came into today claiming I was targeted... .you scum bro?

[farside22]

UNVOTE: all

VOTE: Eggman
VOTE: Eggman
VOTE: Shadow
VOTE: Shadow

Why are you voting shadow?

[farside22]

Vedith also promised a case and complains about a quick wagon but only on him.
Okay to hammer vote another player.
Logic
Yeah I'm not bitting.

I'm not sure of the vote count.
Consider me voting vedith.

[farside22]

Vote: vedith

[farside22]

farside can you clarify why you are voting vedith

I looked into messenger for greatest game and found nothing like what vedith said.
He promised a reason for reads and I stead is trolling, voting, and blah, blah.

@lane: does hound mean anything to you?

[farside22]

Here's my proposal.

Lynch Eggman today, because he said it himself, he's an okay lynch.

Then pile every investigative role we have onto Vedith. We know there's a Cop, but that only accounts for one Scumteam, so if you've got an investigation that isn't Mafia/Not Mafia, you're on Vedith too. If there's a second Mafia cop out there, I suggest Farside to check on that "confirmation" Vedith supposedly has.

There is a redirector in the game.

[farside22]

No

Huh.

Well I'm confused.

[farside22]

There is a redirector in the game.

How do we know?
I didn't recieve that in my pre game message.

I know. There was a reason I was asked to be targeted.

farside can you clarify why you are voting vedith

I looked into messenger for greatest game and found nothing like what vedith said.
He promised a reason for reads and I stead is trolling, voting, and blah, blah.

@lane: does hound mean anything to you?

I'm not trolling, I just don't know how to explain what I have.
I think lynching Eggman will be enough to end the game.

He doesn't care if he's lynched.
I doubt that with my every breath.

[farside22]

They prob got results on someone who they didnt target?

Actually I suggested that someone who is a bloodhound may have received incorrect results if they didn't target me.

[farside22]

Amazing I must be the only player to read spoilers others post in game.

[farside22]

Oh. I don't know what a bloodhound is.

If I remember correctly, it's the ultimate cop. Results are Town/Not Town.

And as I said at the start I wanted to know who targeted me.

No one responded so I'm assuming who ever has the bloodhound ability was redirected to me because I also was targeted by a redirector.

[farside22]

How do you know there is a redirector in the game, farside?

I explained this.
I'm not completely role claiming here.
But the gist is I received info.

[farside22]

mod: prod mm he hasn't post at all this gsme

I'd vote the spot too

[farside22]

I'm not responding to a question I've already awnser in this game.
Silly question, doesn't tree stump still talk?
Could I vote mm?

[farside22]

I recall some defended trickster too for not picking that.

I'll try to look back later for that

[farside22]

Unvote

Just in case there wasn't a hammer

[farside22]

That would be dangerous if there was a mafia redirector

Vote: eager

[farside22]

The I'm not the mod vote count

Votecount 2.2
Vedith (5) - LAMIST, Eggman, farside22, lane, shadow
Eggman (1) - eagerSnake
Shadow_step (2) - Titus, Vedith, Vedith, Vedith, Vedith
eagerSnake (1) - Radical Rat


Not voting (0)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch

Yeah, ss did hammer.
If I die, lynch eager

[farside22]

I'm also venful btw.

[farside22]

vote: eager

[farside22]

Yeah what's that about far?

The redirector comment.

Still waiting on titus to tell me how her results were given to her.

VOTE: titus

I thought you said day 2 you had an innocent on Titus.
You want to explain this?

[farside22]

Titus is not a member of the mafia.

This is what I'm talking about lane.

Also I can confirm I was targeted by a cop last night

[farside22]

Lane: Did you check anyone night 2?

[farside22]

Lane: Did you check anyone night 2?

No

Why?

Titus is not a member of the mafia.

This is what I'm talking about lane.

Also I can confirm I was targeted by a cop last night

Possible self-voyeur (???)

I'm not claiming.
Nice role fishing you have going there.

[farside22]

Reflexive rolecop... Let me check....

Bunch of random roles that allow that, so any alignment. Thats the only match that fits.s

Why are you trying to figure out my role instead of scum hunting?

[farside22]

Reflexive rolecop... Let me check....

Bunch of random roles that allow that, so any alignment. Thats the only match that fits.s

Why are you trying to figure out my role instead of scum hunting?

Because we dont think there are any scum left to hunt.

So your not voting eager because....?

[farside22]

And your wrong.
There is a redirector in the game that has not claimed, which means obvious scum still in the game.

[farside22]

Haven't caught up yet, I'm on 37. But I can confirm that Eager is a cop and copped me. Please don't lynch him.

Since you've said nothing day 1, I want to know why I should believe this?

[farside22]

I am a Town Self-Voyeur. I compulsively check myself each night, and last night someone investigated me. I'm 100% sure it was Snake.

Now, why did farside take my claim? I think it's rather unlikely that we both have the same role. VOTE: Farside

I didn't claim and I'm not going to.
I also asked players to target me.

So why didn't you if that was true.

[farside22]

Haven't caught up yet, I'm on 37. But I can confirm that Eager is a cop and copped me. Please don't lynch him.

Ok, so Titus and Eager are role-confirmed.

(Why an SK would fakeclaim Cop is beyond me)

Pedit: This is quite the bussing gambit if they are claiming that the other is lyncher on them and confirm one another roles....

Pedit: Farside is a Reflexive Rolecop, no question about it.

Vote: eggman

[farside22]

Do you still want me to target you farside

Sure.
Go for it.

I'm thinking LAMIST is scum here.
He's too willing to believe claims and blantenly role fish.
I'd check him out as a group thing to be honest.

[farside22]

@farside, I didn't check anyone because I was hoping to prevent a nightkill, if there are any left

Massive block?

[farside22]

Hold the voting.
I'm waiting on Lanes response here.

[farside22]

@farside, I didn't check anyone because I was hoping to prevent a nightkill, if there are any left

Massive block?

Cowardly cop

That explains a lot.

Looking at egg and LAMIST as scum.
What do you think?

[farside22]

Eggman is cleared by clearing Eager and by claims.

Lane might be Bloodhound tbh.

Pedit: Part of our role. Werewolf faction is modkilled if they dont nk a vt.

And egg could be lying his ass off.

I'm holding my vote on him.
Thanks.

[farside22]

@farside, I didn't check anyone because I was hoping to prevent a nightkill, if there are any left

Massive block?

Cowardly cop

That explains a lot.

Looking at egg and LAMIST as scum.
What do you think?

Considering the fact I'm finding mafia by analyzing claims, your logic makes no sense. My role is once again confirmed by the N1 modkill.

Pedit: It's a very risky and crazy gambit. Stop it.

Dude, the egg claimed after eager said he targeted him and he never sifted shit.
I'm not taking a BS claim at face value and you should know better.

[farside22]

vote: eagersnake

[farside22]

Eagersnake is not mafia. Given the lack of kills, I wonder if anyone is mafia though.

Who said we likely had a bloodhound? Why?

I will be back in about 24 hours. One last work thing.

Me.
I was targetted night 1 by a bloodhound and a player who is a redirector.

vote: eagersnake

I believe his cop claim. 100%. If that means anything to you

You targeted egg?
Or you targeted him?

eager didn't target me last night. I had no one target me last night. So forgive me if I'm a bit looking at eager sideways here.

[farside22]

Actually if you targeted egg don't say so I want him to come in and comment about the self voyer thing.

[farside22]

Eagersnake is not mafia. Given the lack of kills, I wonder if anyone is mafia though.

Who said we likely had a bloodhound? Why?

I will be back in about 24 hours. One last work thing.

Me.
I was targetted night 1 by a bloodhound and a player who is a redirector.

vote: eagersnake

I believe his cop claim. 100%. If that means anything to you

You targeted egg?
Or you targeted him?

eager didn't target me last night. I had no one target me last night. So forgive me if I'm a bit looking at eager sideways here.

That's not true.
I targetted you last night.

Maybe you were redirected.
I didn't get anything last night.

I think claiming is a good idea.

I'm a town dreamer.
I get to use the role that players target me with.
I targeted lane night one, hence the confusion.
I thought when I got no result something went wrong.
Night 2 I targetted egg and got not mafia.

I haven't used the redirect at all.

Can everyone clarify night actions one last time.

[farside22]

Lane- cowardly cop
Eager- bulletproof cop
Titus- cop
Lamist - Redirector
Radical
Eggman
Farside

Unvote

Lane did you hide last night?

[farside22]

Lane- cowardly cop
Eager- bulletproof cop
Titus- cop
Lamist - Redirector
Radical
Eggman
Farside

Unvote

Lane did you hide last night?

No I checked lamist

Not Mafia I assume.

Radical I have a quick question for you.
Let me know when you have a few moments.

[farside22]

Lane- cowardly cop
Eager- bulletproof cop
Titus- cop
Lamist - Redirector
Radical
Eggman
Farside

Unvote

Lane did you hide last night?

No I checked lamist

Not Mafia I assume.

Radical I have a quick question for you.
Let me know when you have a few moments.

Ask away

DOh you know dreamer can copy and perform the action they were targeted with?

Vote: eager

[farside22]

Vote:eggman

[farside22]

Egg is at l-1

[farside22]

Lane- cowardly cop
Eager- bulletproof cop
Titus- cop
Lamist - Redirector
Radical
Eggman
Farside

Unvote

Lane did you hide last night?

No I checked lamist

Not Mafia I assume.

Radical I have a quick question for you.
Let me know when you have a few moments.

Ask away

DOh you know dreamer can copy and perform the action they were targeted with?

Vote: eager

Well, I mean. You just said that, so yes I do know?

I don't think I understand the question.

Well if you targeted me I gain that ability to use night 4.

[farside22]

Sigh.

I lied.

[farside22]

<3
Were you playing dumb at the end there?

[farside22]

If I'd known you were a Dreamer, and had looked it up to see what it did, I would have recruited you ASAP to get a double recruit night in.

Well even if you are targeted I can use the cult recruit tonight.
Thanks for picking me.

[farside22]

I wonder, did a large grand mafia ever happen?

[farside22]

Note to self, don't accidentally hammere town bloodhound.

Who's Redirector? Damn. Cause if Redirector redirected you to someone who is already cult, then you wouldn't be able to recruit

I could cult someone too.

I'd pick you out of love

[farside22]

Hey redirector, redirect to yourself so you win too.


True that.
Sorry lane.

[farside22]

Yah!!
Mm as redirector was a huge surprise.