Mini 1824: Grandest Idea Mafia - Game over!

[lane0168]

VOTE: Trickster fate

I can't imagine a pro-town player getting rid of that role.

I would Discard it, because I don't have confidence enough to believe I wouldn't just be committing suicide

VOTE: shadow

[lane0168]

okay, I want to make one thing clear here:

DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, TARGET ME AT NIGHT

that is all

VOTE: McMenno
VOTE: Titus
VOTE: lane0168
VOTE: farside22

Okay, I found scum!

VOTE: Shadow_Step

I would like an answer to this as well

Does this go for scum and town? Or are you just talking to town? Or just scum?

[lane0168]

okay, I want to make one thing clear here:

DO NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, TARGET ME AT NIGHT

What's up with the unprovoked softclaim?

VOTE: Shadow_step

Town Surgeon is powerful. Did you discard it for scum?

yes

Back to Lane's comment.
The reason I said what I did is if you have the role all you have to say is I plan on shoot x day 1 and if I die know that he/she is town.

That's true, it's also a terrible role for someone who picked scum, someone coming off a scum win feeling a little corky? Mmm?

Titus would've had to PICK scum. Not roll scum. I don't think that happened? Don't jump all over me but a vague memory tells me titus wouldn't pick scum

[lane0168]

I could be way off though. Anyone else think titus would pick scum?

[lane0168]

more than 100, actually

No, I believe all roles are from page 1 only.

This is false and you know it.
I want to lynch Vedith to remove those extra votes from play. It's too much power for one townie.
VOTE: Vedith
PEDIT: what the shit i've hit the submit button five times as of now
everone STOP POSTING SO MUCH. thanks

Lol no doubt. This a blitz or what?! Impromptu blitz anyone? New deadlines are 3 days

Ok so I was way off on titus lol

[lane0168]

This is one of my favorite first 4 pages of a game ever. What a shit show haha

[lane0168]

Docs do suck. I basically single handedly won as a hider in this. I cannot see why anyone discards compulsive mafia killer.

Now that Farside unvoted

VOTE: SS

I could be way off though. Anyone else think titus would pick scum?

me, me
Did you know that SS didn't pick the card that Titus was referring to in the post she voted for him?

You mean his Discard? Yeah, why?

[lane0168]

not that it matters, because I got all town cards :/

same

Same

Same

[lane0168]

Wow, ok so for some reason I was thinking the same thing lol. That's why I was voting him too...

UNVOTE:

Why did that happen?

[lane0168]

Wait no its not. Wtf why am I so confused. I voted cause he got rid of surgeon. But somewhere along the way I was thinking he discarded compulsive mafia killer.

[lane0168]

Titus, you gonna respond to Farside? Or address her points?

[lane0168]

Did the mod list what anti-town factions there possibly are?
Did the mod define protective role?

No. I was only given that information.
I assume that someone sent me it pre game

Then someone can confirm it

[lane0168]

Nope

[lane0168]

Nope

Well Derp. My bad.

I was responding to verity, but somewhere along the way I got that same thing in my head

[lane0168]

What is going on? Ryan, what was your throw away role? The one that decided your alignment?

[lane0168]

That sucks... Why didn't you choose lyncher?

[lane0168]

Black

[lane0168]

Darker grey

[lane0168]

Stop it vedith!

[lane0168]

VOTE: ryank

[lane0168]

Not me! Not yet! Why is he scum though? Buddying and jester fear?

[lane0168]

Not me! Not yet! Why is he scum though? Buddying and jester fear?

Because I have a gut feeling!
I think Ryan is lying, but I don't think scum now.

Well I do

[lane0168]

VOTE: mcmenno

The mm died? Did I miss something?

[lane0168]

The mm tree stumped himself or something? Lol

[lane0168]

That's only 6 votes. Did you win then?

[lane0168]

afia Treestump 1-shot Dayvig

Tree stumps at day 1 start, can still use daykill. Reroll if no other Mafia are present

Yes, please edit roles into the tops of those posts. How about Werewolf and Alien versions of this one

[lane0168]

She's talking to titus

[lane0168]

I think

[lane0168]

I feel like this is something I would say as scum

I feel like this is something I would say as scum

I feel like this is something I would say as scum

[lane0168]

VOTE: ryank

[lane0168]

Well you just said it so that makes you scum by your own logic

You realise that Lane can't be scum by default right?
It's in the site rules.

He's basically a more power Innocent Child in every game.

HAHA! Thought this was general knowledge

[lane0168]

why are you trying to kill McMenno now. You don't even have anything on him!
See, that's why I want this quadvoter out. #MennoDidNothingWrong

I'm not even voting him, how do I want him dead?!

What? Yes you are

[lane0168]

Fuck me vedith. This game is a riot

[lane0168]

Titus is not a member of the mafia.

[lane0168]

VOTE: vedith

I've seen the too scummy to be scum defense used on other people, and be completely wrong more often than not. I've never seen it used in oneself. That's absurd

[lane0168]

That's too scummy to be scum PLUS some scummy, so we're back to scum

[lane0168]

As for most of the conversation of the day, I'm lost. Lamist picked a town roll that kills town?

[lane0168]

VOTE: vedith

I've seen the too scummy to be scum defense used on other people, and be completely wrong more often than not. I've never seen it used in oneself. That's absurd

People self meta all the time, it's not actually an issue.
I will confirm again - I have 4 votes, I cannot be scum.

Too scummy to be scum is not settle meta. And you know I'm town. Don't be ridiculous. You're scum

[lane0168]

Searches for "truth" "truths" "lie" "true" and "false" have turned up nothing.

Thank you. Was just going to do this

[lane0168]

Funny vedith didn't share it with us immediately. He had all the time to find a single matching roll, but didn't bother to share it with us? That makes 0 sense

[lane0168]

All the time vedith has spent asking for time to find the role he supposedly find, could've been spent actually finding the role

[lane0168]

Lol. I giggled. Vedith friends the role, thinks "oh that's the role" and moves on without taking any mental notes besides it might have the number 7 in the post number and it's somewhere between the 1st and last page

[lane0168]

*finds

[lane0168]

After doing all that work, apparently going page by page considering he has no idea how to find it, he doesn't bother to do anything with the information, let alone remember it

[lane0168]

To confirm, I received this information pre game

There is 1 anti town faction
Farside is not Mafia (My assumptions mean town)
There is 1 protective role in the game.

It was a message form the mod without anything else backing it.

Just because I think you made it up doesn't mean some of it couldn't be true.

But what does that have to do with titus? How does checking titus have anything to do with it?

[lane0168]

Lane is scum btw. He votes me and thinks my information received is a lie, yet he checked Titus last night?
Doesn't match up.

Happy to lynch Lane over Eggman.

We had no reason to doubt your information until we got two scumflips from different factions though. At the time of N1, checking you was much less mandatory.

Oh why I checked Titus and not vedith. I thought about checking vedith, but I also thought that's exactly what he was hoping for. Titus was my second best option

[lane0168]

Vedith what was your role on your alignment card.

[lane0168]

Also, I've been thinking about my information gained, and I'm starting to think that who ever sent it had to send 2 true comments and 1 lie.
Farside and 1 protective role is true (no one claimed another protective and I can't see anyone here as it)
The factions is a lie.

I found the role in the forum that does this, so I assume that someone got this and is scum.

No, that's not the one you were thinking. You were thinking of a role that sends 2 truths and a lie. The role that you found by now can't find, and are now saying it doesn't exist.

So now we're stuck with this.

Scummy = scum
More scummy = very scum / stupid messyuppy town
Super scummy = super scum/ too scummy to be scum
Ultra scummy/ scum trying to be too scummy to be scum/ jester / vedith

[lane0168]

So vedith wants to be lynched... Or he wants us to think he wants to be lynched. Whatever im lynching vedith

[lane0168]

He's too jester to be jester lol

[lane0168]

@the mm, if youre listening and 1 shot treestump vig, can you please shoot vedith

[lane0168]

I'm only guessing, but he should be town treestump 1 shot vig

[lane0168]

As a jester right now I would be self voting.
I am town you idiots!

Then why are you playing so ridiculously?

[lane0168]

He's a quadruple voter. That's only 1 in the thread as far as I could find that has his votes worth 1/4 vote.

[lane0168]

VOTE: shadow

[lane0168]

But what about jester or keeping him alive for the preposterousness?

[lane0168]

Or the possibility the mm can Dayvig him!

[lane0168]

VOTE: eggman

[lane0168]

Dayvig falls under "other shenanigans"

Keeping him alive, while fun, is not exactly playing my wincon, sadly.

I am actually town btw, just trying to have a little fun. :<

There's a bit of me that wants to believe this. A large bit actually. It's just. So. Hard

[lane0168]

I'm ur cop duh

So we have 3 cops? Who did you investigate?

[lane0168]

Can we wait for eagers results at least? I mean shit, if hes gonna claim cop with me and titus, let's at least get the result before he dies

[lane0168]

@eager, who you investigated and the results sircakez gave you, in the form he gave them to you

[lane0168]

I was day 2 rolepicker and just picked my role today i had 24 hours to pick start of day 2 and multiple roles that would make the game unbalanced i was not allowed to pick

so yeah i dont have results

Really... So since when are great/greatest/grand ideas required to be balanced? You are saying sircakez modified your role card. I wonder why be didn't modify the VT VT exterminator or whatever.

Day 2 rolepicker says pick any role in the thread...
How many were not allowed that would make the game unbalanced? Did sircakez list 900 roles you couldn't pick? Or did you just keep sending them until he said yes? How many would you say you asked for before he said yes it that's that case?

[lane0168]

@mod, how would you interpret this role

Town Day 2 Rolepicker

Day 2, you pick your role from any role in this thread that is Town aligned.

[lane0168]

Na I had to pick from mafia-aligned roles

because it was a mafia day 2 rolepicker and i chose a town role as my alignment

I'm going to go out on a long here... And say you didn't find a mafia aligned cop lol

VOTE: eager

[lane0168]

*limb, not long

[lane0168]

Please do. I just don't believe there is a mafia cop in that thread, why would there be a mafia cop?

[lane0168]

Oh so you're a town bulletproof cop. That's helpful for town

[lane0168]

How did you find mega gladiator even? Or Icelander for that matter??? And what the fuck are they?

[lane0168]

So the one major issue I have is why, if your role pm says town day 2 rolepicker, would you be picking from mafia roles?

[lane0168]

Also an issue, how in the world would mega gladiator be op? You just get lynched, and the game moves on?

[lane0168]

Forget that second issue. Doesn't matter

[lane0168]

VOTE: eggman

[lane0168]

So the one major issue I have is why, if your role pm says town day 2 rolepicker, would you be picking from mafia roles?

For the same reason the Town VT Exterminator caused the Werewolves to suicide.

Yeah I guess

[lane0168]

No

[lane0168]

No

Huh.

Well I'm confused.

About what? Why I outed myself without a guilty? Maybe I'm not thinking hard enough about this hound thing, but I don't believe i know what you're talking about

[lane0168]

I don't read spoilers cause I don't want to spoil the game.

[lane0168]

mod: prod mm he hasn't post at all this gsme

I'd vote the spot too

He's a treestump. Hasn't had a spot in the vote counts since the first one.

[lane0168]

Guessing at a treestump obviously

[lane0168]

Do it

[lane0168]

If he is jester, does that end the game? Or does he just also get a win?

[lane0168]

Sorry vedith. Sounds like you need to go. It certainly hasn't been real, but it's been fun. It's actually been real fun

[lane0168]

No vedith, you're a liar

[lane0168]

I doubt it. You would've be playing the way you're playing. But you're probably reverse psychologizing us right now to get yourself lynched

[lane0168]

Wouldn't have been

[lane0168]

I mean it might lose us the game Yeah. Cause the jester thing. What's your role? You're getting lynched either way probably

[lane0168]

Lol you're obnoxious! I can't believe you're going to be in a hydra with fire.

What's your role? All of it

[lane0168]

When I get home I'll pull all the lies out of your ISO

Please don't waste you time. No one will read it. We all know

[lane0168]

Eager is scum

[lane0168]

Why did you lie eager?

[lane0168]

VOTE: eager the lying scum

[lane0168]

I'm just kidding, VOTE: vedith
L-1

[lane0168]

Oh titus you're here. Why did you crumb a not mafia on someone who flipped werewolf? Why did you take such an obvious way to crumb when you didn't have to? How were the results given to you?

[lane0168]

And why did you even choose tricksted? They never posted and I think never even confirmed

[lane0168]

Titus is probably the jester

[lane0168]

If we have one

[lane0168]

Jester lyncher for shadow lol

[lane0168]

lane0168 is scum for speculating jester - just like McMenno

This a joke?

[lane0168]

So you were serious at first?

[lane0168]

K. Cause I thought it was a joke? But then I wasn't sure lol

[lane0168]

VOTE: eggman

[lane0168]

Lol nevermind. See ya vedith

[lane0168]

Well, that's a bummer

[lane0168]

Lol wasn't sure what to listen to out of your mouth

[lane0168]

Well last game I was in with him he was scum, won, and didn't work at all. Was very active

[lane0168]

*lurk

[lane0168]

Lol wasn't sure what to listen to out of your mouth

I just wanted to have a fun game!

You deserve a ban for not playing to your wincon

[lane0168]

Well last game I was in with him he was scum, won, and didn't work at all. Was very active

That wasn't him! :<

Who was it?

[lane0168]

Btw I was scum, game is probably over as I was the only Mafia.

HAHA! you fuckin schmuck

[lane0168]

I spose, only Mafia so why not fuck off and see how far you get lol. It was a riot

[lane0168]

Btw I was scum, game is probably over as I was the only Mafia.

HAHA! you fuckin schmuck

Don't hate me Lane! <3

Oh not at all

[lane0168]

You were too scummy to be scum for sure. But then you added more scummy right back to scum. But then you added more scummy and I'm like, fuck this I don't even know anymore what the hell is vedith playing at?!

Inb4 be actually flips jester haha

[lane0168]

Inb4 he's not actually only Mafia

[lane0168]

Inb4 he's actually town.

[lane0168]

VOTE: eggman

[lane0168]

Oh titus you're here. Why did you crumb a not mafia on someone who flipped werewolf? Why did you take such an obvious way to crumb when you didn't have to? How were the results given to you?

Why are you outing hypothetical crumbs?

I am the queen of obvious.

Rolefishing permit denied.

Hypothetical? There's nothing hypothetical about it. You've already admitted to it? Why are you calling something you said you did hypothetical? And why did you investigate someone who had not yet confirmed?

[lane0168]

And tell me what form you got your result? You said you visited tf, what are your results and in what form?

[lane0168]

Mine was "Night action results: Not Mafia" or very close to that so as not to quote the mod. I'm just trying to clear my paranoia here. And me targeting you is not a lie

[lane0168]

I was under the impression they couldn't talk. My bad. Might not be a treestump? But idk what he'd be losing his vote and not having a flip pregame

[lane0168]

VOTE: Trickster fate

I can't imagine a pro-town player getting rid of that role.

I want to note here that this person called out scum on the first post of the game

and then that scum /quit the game

Noting for what reason?

[lane0168]

Apparently he doesn't have a reason. It's just notable to him... I think

[lane0168]

Cool I actually called out a scum role on page 2

I should get a medal for that

Sorry. No points for second best

[lane0168]

Yeah what's that about far?

[lane0168]

Still waiting on titus to tell me how her results were given to her.

VOTE: titus

[lane0168]

Actually we'll have titus answer, and just to be safe we can have eager tell us if she's right

[lane0168]

Hmm... Not sure if clever/observant or right. Damn.

Because it was obvious. And because I didn't believe you. I'm leaning towards believing you.

UNVOTE:

Now I'm not sure where to go.

[lane0168]

Actually we'll have titus answer, and just to be safe we can have eager tell us if she's right

And why should I trust you

You don't have to. But if you're wrong, we'll fight to the death. I feel like if you were cop, you'd already believe me

[lane0168]

VOTE: eager

[lane0168]

Let's put it this way eager, do you believe me and titus are both cops? Why or why not? You said before you didn't believe it

[lane0168]

Let's put it this way eager, do you believe me and titus are both cops? Why or why not? You said before you didn't believe it

IMO I find it likely for a scum to grab Cop as role to look townie

IDK

I don't trust anyone

You don't believe either of us?

[lane0168]

Yeah what's that about far?

The redirector comment.

Still waiting on titus to tell me how her results were given to her.

VOTE: titus

I thought you said day 2 you had an innocent on Titus.
You want to explain this?

Pressure, didn't like how she crumbed a flipped player so obviously.

Pedit: 2 to 3 sk's, and no night kill? I mean towards no

[lane0168]

Because this setup is whack yo

I'm town and picked a mafia role and then had to pick any mafia role out of deck on D2

whose to say scum aint the cop

whos to say there even is a mafia

whos to say anything

Do you believe titus is a cop, regardless of alignment?

[lane0168]

Grandest Idea Mechanics

Before the game starts, I will send every player 3 different roles drafted from the Grand Idea Mafia thread here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=59348
Roles were drafted from 1-2558.
Please reply within 24 hours with the role you'd like to be your alignment, and the role you'd like to be your role. The third role will be publicly discarded for everyone to see after everyone has chosen.

The setup will be run as there is a town majority and at least one non-town player.
You may ask me how I would interpret any role in the GIM thread and I will provide an example role PM to match.

Hydra PTs will be granted on request.

Could possibly indicate a no group!scum faction.

Anything to explain the no kill this night?

Yes.

Pedit? How so?

[lane0168]

Yours didnt match mine 100% either you should know what im talking about if youre cop

So what's different?

[lane0168]

Lane: Did you check anyone night 2?

No

[lane0168]

Fuck. Lol. So I'm inclined to believe we have 3 cops.

[lane0168]

Also there is one other thing about the other cops results that is differ from mine

but im not saying what rn

Fair enough!

[lane0168]

@farside, I didn't check anyone because I was hoping to prevent a nightkill, if there are any left

[lane0168]

@farside, I didn't check anyone because I was hoping to prevent a nightkill, if there are any left

Massive block?

Cowardly cop

[lane0168]

@farside, I didn't check anyone because I was hoping to prevent a nightkill, if there are any left

How does not checking people prevent nightkills?

Because mafia are likely to kill a cop. Shade on titus plus bulletproof eager, makes me the most likely nightkill

[lane0168]

@farside, I didn't check anyone because I was hoping to prevent a nightkill, if there are any left

Massive block?

Cowardly cop

That explains a lot.

Looking at egg and LAMIST as scum.
What do you think?

I could go for lamist. He seems to be forcing the assumption that he's cleared by tf being mod killed, and by his claim. And like you said he's all about believing claims?

Only they could be just as easily mafia VT exterminator. So I think thats where we should go.

On the other hand I wouldn't have any qualms about sheeping them on shadow, because it's starting to look like we have mislynches to waste.

[lane0168]

Unless of course tf was mod killed for other reasons... And honestly if tf was killed because of your role, I don't think the flip would be mod killed... Hold on let me check

[lane0168]

Ok so they're mod killed. That's silly

VOTE: shadow

[lane0168]

@Farside ,because they're right, where's the Redirector

[lane0168]

Yeah I did the modkilled. And thought it was silly. Cause you know, modkilled is much different than something that happened due to a roll in most cases

[lane0168]

Not did. *saw

[lane0168]

I didn't realize he was l-1. My bad. On so no mafia I'm assuming. I copped lamist

[lane0168]

vote: eagersnake

I believe his cop claim. 100%. If that means anything to you

[lane0168]

Someone investigated me tonight too.
I'm guessing it's Lane from farside's comment.

What? Are you sure? Because the 3 known cops have already said who they have investigated. And it wasn't you. Why do you think you were investigated?

[lane0168]

I'm town cowardly cop

My choices were

Town Prone to screaming at the slightest touch. (joat)
Town Cowardly cop

Seeing as there's no night kills apparently. I think mass claim is beneficial

[lane0168]

Lane- cowardly cop
Eager- bulletproof cop
Titus- cop
Lamist - Redirector
Radical
Eggman
Farside

[lane0168]

Radical you targeted with what?

[lane0168]

Lane- cowardly cop
Eager- bulletproof cop
Titus- cop
Lamist - Redirector
Radical
Eggman
Farside

Unvote

Lane did you hide last night?

No I checked lamist

[lane0168]

Lynching me is a waste of 2 phases

Why?

[lane0168]

So so far we have

Town:

Lane
Titus
Farside

It can be concluded that Shadow cleared Farside N1 as town based on Farside's comments & this post.

Sure would have been nice if someone didn't hammer him before he could tell us who else he checked... ( There weren't three nights for him to use so he couldn't have checked everyone in that post. )

Yeah, fuck me, I get it. I'd be lynching me if I wasnt me because I've said several times people don't just accidentally hammer. And anyone who does is scum. My is in my mouth. My toes are tickling my throat

[lane0168]

Note to self, don't accidentally hammere town bloodhound.

Who's Redirector? Damn. Cause if Redirector redirected you to someone who is already cult, then you wouldn't be able to recruit

[lane0168]

Does cult EVER win?! I've never seen it.

Aww Farside, I'm glad you're a forgiving woman. Thank you

[lane0168]

This is awesome! Recruit me tonight! I want to win!

[lane0168]

Haha, OR I don't commute and I win... But I hadn't even thought of that lol

[lane0168]

Haha hilarious, well youre the leader. I'd choose lamist. Cause I didn't trust him still lol

[lane0168]

VOTE: Vedith

Time for a flip

Lane wtf were you thinking goddamnit
I didn't even get to post, I had an inno on eagersnake.
We were 100% lynching RR on day 3.

Lol, you already lost us the game.you should've been here

[lane0168]

I'm probably the best Townie there is

[lane0168]

Fwiw I'm the only one that called RR scum this game?

Setup plz thx

Only town on the wagon that ended the game