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Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Sat Sep 03, 2016 4:47 pm

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Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:16 am

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In post 2244, MariaR wrote:This is why I think last scum is in Ved/Infinity because town have so many ways to clear themself and 2 doc's/ watcher seems overkill
I thought you were a tracker?
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Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 5:00 am

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In post 2251, Vedith wrote:
In post 2244, MariaR wrote:This is why I think last scum is in Ved/Infinity because town have so many ways to clear themself and 2 doc's/ watcher seems overkill
I thought you were a tracker?
Yes? I'm talking about with an IC combo tracker doesn't really go into that combo
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Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:15 pm

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Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:18 pm

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fuck this game though. this was supposed to be over and now it needs to be started all over again.
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Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 4:20 pm

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12 days is a lot of time at least
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Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:20 pm

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In post 2252, MariaR wrote:Yes? I'm talking about with an IC combo tracker doesn't really go into that combo
Mis read your post, I thought you were saying there were 2 docs and 2 watchers.
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Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:40 pm

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@Slandaar - Thought process on you being obvious town please

@Maria - Can you explain your LQ scum read on day 1 for me. I believe day 2 you had him as your top scum read, correct?
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Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:45 pm

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Vedith is really not playing like if expect scum to play in lylo. Ughh
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Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:24 am

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In post 2258, Infinity 324 wrote:Vedith is really not playing like if expect scum to play in lylo. Ughh
That's because I'm not scum.
Did you look at Rask and Slandaar?

What about my comment on Rask with putting HipLop and DGB but voting HipLop over DGB originally.
It's standard distancing imo.
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Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:38 am

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I already talked about that, standard distancing =/= scum.

BUT WHY WOULD THERE BE 7 PRS INCLUDING A WATCHER IN THIS GAME
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Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:38 am

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Pretty sure sland is town. Still need to ISO rask+LQ+DGB.
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Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 12:44 am

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In post 2260, Infinity 324 wrote:I already talked about that, standard distancing =/= scum.

BUT WHY WOULD THERE BE 7 PRS INCLUDING A WATCHER IN THIS GAME
Because all powers are night 2 only?
The setup is made to find 1 scum on night 2.
The best option Mafia could have done is not kill night 2, then their only risk is a cop.

Why do you think there can't be a watcher but can be 2 docs?
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Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:03 am

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It's not a problem with watcher specifically, I just don't think 7 1-shots is balanced. Especially since scum don't have an rb. Maybe they have a doc to counter gunsmith?

I wouldn't really know though.
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Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:04 am

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@rask were you ever paranoid of me this game?
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Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:20 am

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In post 2263, Infinity 324 wrote:It's not a problem with watcher specifically, I just don't think 7 1-shots is balanced. Especially since scum don't have an rb. Maybe they have a doc to counter gunsmith?

I wouldn't really know though.
But you are claiming doc, so why in your view of mind would they have a doc?
Having all scum be a possible target from a gun smith makes perfect sense imo. To balance it, town have to pick correctly to find scum night 2, if we don't then we have nothing to go on but reads.
Given we have 2 lynches before using the powers, it's a high chance that 1 of those lynches will be a town PR, let alone if both are.
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Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:29 am

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Idk why they would have 2 docs. Might be a way to help scum? This is the only way 7 PRs makes sense imo.

Scum wouldn't know if there was a watcher a tracker and 2 docs, so they don't know not to NK. That means there's a really good chance to catch scum with a track or a watch and also the gunsmith.

It's true the fact that they're n2 makes them slightly less powerful than 1-shot, but only slightly.
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Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:49 am

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In post 2266, Infinity 324 wrote:Idk why they would have 2 docs. Might be a way to help scum? This is the only way 7 PRs makes sense imo.

Scum wouldn't know if there was a watcher a tracker and 2 docs, so they don't know not to NK. That means there's a really good chance to catch scum with a track or a watch and also the gunsmith.

It's true the fact that they're n2 makes them slightly less powerful than 1-shot, but only slightly.
With only night 2 abilities, you can easily assume a tracker or watcher. You can also assume a protective role, and expect it to be power heavy.
IC I don't consider a PR, but instead the night 1 kill for scum.

If the IC was day 2 reveal then yes, I would doubt that many powers, but it's not so 6 powers is perfectly fine for this setup.

Rask or Slandaar have to be scum imo.
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Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:51 am

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Why does day 2 vs. night 2 make a difference for IC?

Also scum killed night so *shrug*

Probably trying to hit an investigative
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Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:05 am

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In post 2268, Infinity 324 wrote:Why does day 2 vs. night 2 make a difference for IC?

Also scum killed night so *shrug*

Probably trying to hit an investigative
Because people can use their power to protect / watch IC etc.
And then a mass claim could be organised by the IC to get several confirms going into the next day.
Actually makes the balance very town sided in that situation.

Probably. I guess they wanted to go for a PR less likely to be protected / watched.
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Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:07 am

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But IC can just claim d2
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Post Post #2271 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:14 am

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In post 2270, Infinity 324 wrote:But IC can just claim d2
That's the point.
Day 2 IC is really powerful in this game, day 1 IC is a waste of a role.

That's why I don't consider the IC a PR slot.
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Post Post #2272 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:17 am

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But the IC was night 2.

Theoretically in this game IC could've claimed d2 to serve the same purpose as a d2 IC.
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Post Post #2273 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:18 am

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In post 2272, Infinity 324 wrote:But the IC was night 2.

Theoretically in this game IC could've claimed d2 to serve the same purpose as a d2 IC.
I thought IC was day 1 reveal?
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Post Post #2274 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:20 am

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Wait the IC would've been revealed at the
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But waiting until d3 to claim might've been more useful if possible when scum may have other conftowns to kill.

I forget the point of this conversation.
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