Mini 1820 — Lazy Summer Mafia (Game Over)

[Infinity 324]

Rask, why the switch of opinion on sland btw?

[MariaR]

Maria take your head out of your arse and stop being useless.

I could say the same to you ^_^

[Vedith]

Maria take your head out of your arse and stop being useless.

I could say the same to you ^_^

Difference is I countered your stupid theory all the way...
Counter mine and we'll talk more about it.

Otherwise I'm claiming that I made the kill on Fire. You said I am second most likely to be scum, so vote me.

[MariaR]

Maria take your head out of your arse and stop being useless.

I could say the same to you ^_^

Difference is I countered your stupid theory all the way...
Counter mine and we'll talk more about it.

Otherwise I'm claiming that I made the kill on Fire. You said I am second most likely to be scum, so vote me.

You didn't counter me what so ever

[MariaR]

saying "you don't make sense" isn't a counter

[Vedith]

You didn't counter me what so ever

Are you stupid?

[MariaR]

You didn't counter me what so ever

Are you stupid?

Yes.

But you didn't counter any of my points here

[MariaR]

Tldr: I think with my tracker report on Infinity he was forced to claim the role he really was (being scum doctor) instead of fake claiming a dif role and his whole defense is "why would I claim doc!"

[MariaR]

Saying he wouldn't claim doc here isn't a counter neither is why

[Vedith]

Tldr: I think with my tracker report on Infinity he was forced to claim the role he really was (being scum doctor) instead of fake claiming a dif role and his whole defense is "why would I claim doc!"

It's night 2 actions only. The balance of this is to find scum with the night actions, and if you don't then town have no powers for the rest of the game.
As I said, it's highly likely that town PR is lynched before any of these powers are used.

The fact we got scum before any powers were used is what's making this look more of an advantage that it's probability.

So I just want to point out here.
Maria thinks that Infinity is scum doc and visited me so he wasn't caught visiting else where instead of just not going out and claiming he was Roleblocker if tracked.
Yet I'm the one not making sense

Scum Roleblocker would fit in well with this setup.
If Infinity said he was Roleblocker I'd believe it

[Vedith]

Saying he wouldn't claim doc here isn't a counter neither is why

Learn to fucking read.

[Raskolnikov]

Rask, why the switch of opinion on sland btw?

reISO and setup is heavily in his favour. When you realise gut paranoia is probably useless when all the facts (association, setup) say the opposite.

Vedith is dying to lynch in VTs and do it both days and his logic on townreading you is shallow AF.

At this point with maria/slandaar all preferring to lynch to lynch within you/vedith, vediths push on me was less viable and he had to try to switch to slandaar (notice that after I vote him) to get something that could get 2 town votes.
but now that I confirmed this he has no choice but to try to lynch me and get towncred through "there's no way scum would do that!" as the only option left available

[MariaR]

*Sigh* okay
the roleblock thing only works if he DOESN'T VISIT BUT HE DID MY REPORT SHOWS THAT HE CAN'T CLAIM ROLEBOCKED IF HE VISITED WHY ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT IT

[MariaR]

Dear lord it's like talking to a parrot and a brick wall

[MariaR]

He wouldn't claim RB'd either cause that makes it a cc

[MariaR]

you're Roleblock counter has been proven false NEXT

[Raskolnikov]

if he's town I also don't see how he comes away scumreading someone forcing a 1for1 onto them
and in general anything of what he's saying today.

our situations are actually different, with the distinction being that I started/forced this

[Raskolnikov]

which puts him in a position where the choice is actually very limited as scum

[Infinity 324]

Rask, why the switch of opinion on sland btw?

reISO and setup is heavily in his favour. When you realise gut paranoia is probably useless when all the facts (association, setup) say the opposite.

Vedith is dying to lynch in VTs and do it both days and his logic on townreading you is shallow AF.

At this point with maria/slandaar all preferring to lynch to lynch within you/vedith, vediths push on me was less viable and he had to try to switch to slandaar (notice that after I vote him) to get something that could get 2 town votes.
but now that I confirmed this he has no choice but to try to lynch me and get towncred through "there's no way scum would do that!" as the only option left available

What do you think about the 2 docs helping scum

[Infinity 324]

if he's town I also don't see how he comes away scumreading someone forcing a 1for1 onto them
and in general anything of what he's saying today.

our situations are actually different, with the distinction being that I started/forced this

But he reintroduced it recently.

[MariaR]

there's no way scum would do that! is legit half to 3/4th's of Infinity and Vedith's defenses and it makes me want to pull hair out

[Raskolnikov]

WRT too many town power, the logical thing that follows is the more powerful the role the worse it is for contributing to too much town power.
A second doc is very dubious if it helps, and even a single doctor is a very weak role (if one say died n1), compared to watcher which is incredibly powerful.

I know some mods like to add wifom into setups so people don't make hard rules like "there can never be 2 of x" and so on and I can see appeal with gunsmith as well, though I haven't played a marquis game before.

But if vedith was the second doc claim and you were the watcher I would still lynch him.

[MariaR]

WRT too many town power, the logical thing that follows is the more powerful the role the worse it is for contributing to too much town power.
A second doc is very dubious if it helps, and even a single doctor is a very weak role (if one say died n1), compared to watcher which is incredibly powerful.

I know some mods like to add wifom into setups so people don't make hard rules like "there can never be 2 of x" and so on and I can see appeal with gunsmith as well, though I haven't played a marquis game before.

But if vedith was the second doc claim and you were the watcher I would still lynch him.

what does WRT mean?

[Infinity 324]

there's no way scum would do that! is legit half to 3/4th's of Infinity and Vedith's defenses and it makes me want to pull hair out

That's not even the main reasons I'm town tho, my ISO is.

Imo what you're proposing is a weird and unnecessary thing to do as scum but this argument is getting nowhere so I'll leave it.

[Infinity 324]

WRT too many town power, the logical thing that follows is the more powerful the role the worse it is for contributing to too much town power.
A second doc is very dubious if it helps, and even a single doctor is a very weak role (if one say died n1), compared to watcher which is incredibly powerful.

I know some mods like to add wifom into setups so people don't make hard rules like "there can never be 2 of x" and so on and I can see appeal with gunsmith as well, though I haven't played a marquis game before.

But if vedith was the second doc claim and you were the watcher I would still lynch him.

I'm thinking docs are even negative utility though. Thinking about it that way changes my views on the setup a lot.