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Post Post #1425 (ISO) » Sun Sep 04, 2016 7:46 pm

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That's due to your skill being insufficient, not a feature of the game.
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Post Post #1426 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:16 am

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I swear i'm a tank, i promise.

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Seriously though, the BC "bug fix" on graves is OP, because you so easily stack the entire thing in 2 autos, and then burst people.
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Post Post #1427 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:23 am

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Why did the darius get visage when the only AP on the enemy team was lux?
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Post Post #1428 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:28 am

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"because lux keeped on bopping me"

"yeah that's cause you kept getting snared by her with half health"

"yeah pretty much"

The conversation i just had with darius ^

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Post Post #1429 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:29 am

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that explains the inexplicable dirk, too
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Post Post #1430 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:32 am

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i picked a poke midlaner (ziggs) into a tanky hard engage comp (braum, amumu, ekko, katarina, cait) silly me
but frankly i'm unsure what i should have picked instead
should i have taken an midlane adc like corki with repositioning skills so that i'd be more able to kill tanks and selfpeel from engages?
should i have taken lissandra or sol and used my aoe cc/invulnerability to diminish their engage but giving up the range/dps necessary to actually kill anyone?
would karthus's raw damage and soft-cc from his w/rylais been the best choice?
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Post Post #1431 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:36 am

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I honestly think most mid laners just bend over against that team comp.

Cassio wouldn't have been terrible, because of her ult/W
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Post Post #1432 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 2:45 am

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In post 1430, Psyche wrote:i picked a poke midlaner (ziggs) into a tanky hard engage comp (braum, amumu, ekko, katarina, cait) silly me
but frankly i'm unsure what i should have picked instead
should i have taken an midlane adc like corki with repositioning skills so that i'd be more able to kill tanks and selfpeel from engages?
should i have taken lissandra or sol and used my aoe cc/invulnerability to diminish their engage but giving up the range/dps necessary to actually kill anyone?
would karthus's raw damage and soft-cc from his w/rylais been the best choice?
woe is me woe is me
azir probably would have done a decent job with his own dps, repositioning and peel-ult but i don't want to bother learning him especially in the state he's in now
irelia mid

it also shits on kata which is a good bonus
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Post Post #1433 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 3:15 am

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In post 1430, Psyche wrote:i picked a poke midlaner (ziggs) into a tanky hard engage comp (braum, amumu, ekko, katarina, cait) silly me
but frankly i'm unsure what i should have picked instead
should i have taken an midlane adc like corki with repositioning skills so that i'd be more able to kill tanks and selfpeel from engages?
should i have taken lissandra or sol and used my aoe cc/invulnerability to diminish their engage but giving up the range/dps necessary to actually kill anyone?
would karthus's raw damage and soft-cc from his w/rylais been the best choice?
woe is me woe is me
azir probably would have done a decent job with his own dps, repositioning and peel-ult but i don't want to bother learning him especially in the state he's in now
Morgana Mid is a potential solution to this. She has surprising survivability as the game goes on because she naturally wants to go Rod of Ages, Zhonyas, and Abyssal in some order (the last is optional normally but required against that team comp). She offers just a heck of a lot of utility. Sure, you aren't likely to solo carry the game against that comp depending on how Amumu and Ekko are itemizing, but you can do really well and enable the rest of your team to do a lot. Just remember in lane that you can't use your Q aggressively: it needs to be saved for after she jumps.

Galio mid is also a potential answer against that comp because only Cait would do damage to you.
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Post Post #1434 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 3:17 am

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oh right morg
and galio
i also think i did the wrong build
abyssal scepter should have come a lot sooner, as a well as a champ pick that could more effectively abuse it
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Post Post #1435 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 3:18 am

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Yeah. Abyssal on Ziggs is unfortunate.
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Post Post #1436 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:06 am

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also, you being sarcastic about morg and galio? It's not like they're particularly weird choices. Well, galio is, but against almost all AP it's a choice that makes sense.
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Post Post #1437 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:12 am

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Galio is terrible intp that team because you'll get stunned in tour ult in about half a second thanks to braum existing.
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Post Post #1438 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:29 am

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that's a good point.
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Post Post #1439 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:24 pm

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So, i got flamed in my most recent game for going cull first. I'm not that upset at the flaming simply because I know it's A.) wrong and B.) frustration, but is Cull really that bad compared to Doran's?

I know Doran's is better for trading, but Cull is for farming, isn't it?
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Post Post #1440 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 4:47 pm

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You can get away with it if you're lower than about low gold, but people start abusing level 2 powerspikes and brute forcing trades more often beyond that. It's a good buy later on if your back is efficient enough to buy it (and you have slots) simply because it will eventually pay off with extra gold, but the combat stats are too important at the very beginning when you need to either try to force an advantage or mitigate the enemy's advantage enough to be able to farm.
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Post Post #1441 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:51 pm

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What about Dark Seal? I've had good experiences going dark seal on kata
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Post Post #1442 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:05 pm

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Dark seal is good in cases where the other guy has some hard/impossible to avoid poke but is also squishy and killable - or when you're confident you're a thousand times better than your opponent and will killinate them over and over.
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Post Post #1443 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 7:36 pm

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I always go seal on kata. I only play kata in the lowest of low elo games tho.
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Post Post #1444 (ISO) » Mon Sep 05, 2016 9:09 pm

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In post 1440, Ankamius wrote:You can get away with it if you're lower than about low gold, but people start abusing level 2 powerspikes and brute forcing trades more often beyond that. It's a good buy later on if your back is efficient enough to buy it (and you have slots) simply because it will eventually pay off with extra gold, but the combat stats are too important at the very beginning when you need to either try to force an advantage or mitigate the enemy's advantage enough to be able to farm.
Personally i don't understand the argument of getting it on the first/second back, over getting it immediately, and getting a doran's blade on the first/second back.

You just delay the item earning you money.

And unless your in a super aggresive lane or something like that (so essentially in lanes you wouldn't go Cull anyway logically) i don't see the real point to it.
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Post Post #1445 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 1:46 am

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You go cull in basically every lane if you have the spare gold for it.

The issue is that getting it immediately means you lose out on having the *option* to trade or be aggressive because you flat out just lose trades with the item difference.

Level two powerspike becomes less scary if you get it and more scary if they get it, etc, etc.
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Post Post #1446 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:17 am

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cull feels like a meme item but what do i know i'm a top player
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Post Post #1447 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:29 am

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I get it in like 70% of kog games after the first back. Rarely I'll get it later on.
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Post Post #1448 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 3:38 am

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i played a normal game yesterday against 3 diamonds, a gold, and a player in masters

lucky i had the gold in my lane and played a cheesey vi top :twisted:
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Post Post #1449 (ISO) » Tue Sep 06, 2016 6:18 pm

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"gg, kog rushed wits end"
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