Micro 643: Desperation Day (Game Over)

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey, just checking in real quick before I go to bed. Let's kick things off shall we? Anyone wanna do RQS?
Also, just call me Gamma.
VOTE: Comparing Realities

[Gamma Emerald]

What.
That eat a kitten bit sounds like you are spoofing Donald Trump, sorrynotsorry.

[Gamma Emerald]

Thinking on it, we should play normally. We hit scum Days 1 or 2, we have an extra day to get information. If we mislynch both days, we have an objective 40% chance to win.

[Gamma Emerald]

Like the chance of scum lynch on day 1 is objectively low.
A player on my homesite once did an analysis of lynches day 1, it hit scum in 5% of the total games.
And games where the town no lynched on day 1 they had an 20% higher chance of winning then if they did lynch day 1.

Sometimes day 1 lynch is just not optimal.

~Menos

Okay but one thing: NEVER VOTE ABSTAIN DAY 1. You deprive the town of valuable information going forward by end the day early.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also I play the game by finding and lynching scum, everything else is arbitrary and boring and shit imo. I'm not playing gimmicks.

Gimmicks are more fun.

Aside: Me and other half of the hydra had a fight over who should be called "Menos" apparently he thinks he should be called that.
WHatever, I am the Mas half now.

All previous posts were made by me.

~Mas Y

Seems easy: McMenno is Menos.

[Gamma Emerald]

No, in fact, we likely have an even better chance if we lynch, as we can get vote reactions. This guy's not getting it at all.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm gonna start the RQS soon.

[Gamma Emerald]

Here it is:
1: What is your preferred faction?
2: What would you say you bring to the game that others don't?
3: Tell me a bit about your username, signature, and/or avatar.
My answers:
1: I would have to say town because the game feels more relaxed.
2: I bring a sense of humor I would say is nigh unrivaled.
3: My username is an old idea of a Pokemon Emerald remake. My signature is a quote from a webcomic, and I find the quote works really well here.

And about those wagons, I have seen votes meant to bait reactions on EpicMafia plenty of times. It's not only about successful wagons.

[Gamma Emerald]

No that's definitely beginning stuff.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Blackstar: I always thought you chose it from the Soul Eater character.

[Gamma Emerald]

I guess I'll add those.
4: What is your experience with Mafia?
5: Who here have you played with before?
My answers
4: One near complete off site forum game, one ongoing game here, many EM games, and many IRL games.
5: No one.

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, can hydras chat about the game between the two heads?

[Gamma Emerald]

Don't really know what to think, didn't think it was worth a vote imo.

[Gamma Emerald]

these questions are mostly inane and pointless but I'll answer them for the thought exercise

Here it is:
1: What is your preferred faction?
2: What would you say you bring to the game that others don't?
3: Tell me a bit about your username, signature, and/or avatar.
My answers:
1: I would have to say town because the game feels more relaxed.
2: I bring a sense of humor I would say is nigh unrivaled.
3: My username is an old idea of a Pokemon Emerald remake. My signature is a quote from a webcomic, and I find the quote works really well here.

And about those wagons, I have seen votes meant to bait reactions on EpicMafia plenty of times. It's not only about successful wagons.

1. I do like playing as third party a lot, especially jester
2. aren't we all
3. my username comes from my minecraft username, minecraftermenno (thought up when I was the ripe age of 10), I shortened it to mcmenno and it has been my internet nomer ever since. my signature is some choice quotes about me. my avatar is a grass block from minecraft

I guess I'll add those.
4: What is your experience with Mafia?
5: Who here have you played with before?
My answers
4: One near complete off site forum game, one ongoing game here, many EM games, and many IRL games.
5: No one.

4. I've played plenty of games f2f and on here
5. most everyone except key and you, I think

4.) All the games listed on my wiki page, plus numerous games offsite.

5.) Just the firebringer head of the mas y menos hydra.

Also yes, hydra head can always talk together.

eh, we've played together technically

~the REAL Menos

In response to 2: dank

[Gamma Emerald]

CR, you missed the point of post 26. I have the same thoughts as you.

[Gamma Emerald]

@rb: you are the last one who hasn't answer my RQS set. Could you please do that?

[Gamma Emerald]

If we still do reads lists, I suggest we generalize (town/null/scum) and randomize.

[Gamma Emerald]

@CR: I have to say, next time, USE A SPOILER TAG.

[Gamma Emerald]

What's the point of these silly questions?

I think we should all vote for key

Why??

why me fry me

[Gamma Emerald]

Comparing Realities is the only one pinging me right now:

VOTE: Comparing Realities


I have town on Alchemist, Rb, XYZ.
Rest Null.

Also Alchemist, I think this continues the trend of us being same alignment

~Mas Y

Don't think you'll be voting key rn, Menos.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: rb
I've seen people break site norm, but you are refusing to do a basic part of the game. Promise you'll try to read walls.

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE: rb
Since pressure ain't gonna do shit
I agree with xyzzy though: you are a solid lynch candidate.

[Gamma Emerald]

Solid lynch candidate based on what exactly?

You aren't willing to do a major part of the game: reading.

[Gamma Emerald]

I want you to read every post, rb. Skim if you must, but try to digest what everyone says, okay?

[Gamma Emerald]

I just said that I'ld be okay with you skimming if you got the point of each post, but apparently, you really just don't want to cooperate.
PEdit: well what ARE you saying?

[Gamma Emerald]

I think I may get the point now, actually. You don't like to discuss mathematical probability because you find it distracting, same with reading wall posts. Well, news flash, the math was only part of a debate about whether we should no lynch the first two days.

[Gamma Emerald]

Neither is this. Let's just drop it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Who is chainsawing who?

[Gamma Emerald]

Side note: this game idea make me think of Ace Attorney, with the third day gimmick.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't think Mas disagrees on that part; I think he disagrees about people being able fly under the radar.

[Gamma Emerald]

Wagon hopping is generally seen as scummy.

[Gamma Emerald]

I want to say more than I am, but I don't really have anything interesting to say.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well I'm convinced, but I'll wait for VC until I vote.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well I'm convinced, but I'll wait for VC until I vote.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay. Now that we have VC:
VOTE: Mas y Menos

[Gamma Emerald]

Because he really seems like scum who wants to derail town.

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
Wow, I spend one day having a life and things go CRAZY. I don't know what the feel right now.

[Gamma Emerald]

First: what is EBWOP?

[Gamma Emerald]

Why is that even necessary

[Gamma Emerald]

But you don't need to mention that you did it, it's self evident.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay I was doubting it anyway but thanks for rushing me.
UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

And he has me as nullscum but apologizes for vote. Okay guy.

Was that responding to me? Well, with the key kerfuffle, I doubted pretty much all my thoughts. I may have to make a reads list to get them in order.

[Gamma Emerald]

What is key at?

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay.
VOTE: key

L-1

[Gamma Emerald]

I can hammer myself if yall want to rush things.

I think we have our scum here. Don't hammer this guy yet though, we have plenty of time to discuss.

[Gamma Emerald]

Reads:
Town: CR, rb
Null: BTD6, BlackStar, Mas
Scum: key, xyzzy, Alchemist

[Gamma Emerald]

I can hammer myself if yall want to rush things.

I think we have our scum here. Don't hammer this guy yet though, we have plenty of time to discuss.

What do you want to discuss?

We should all make read lists.

[Gamma Emerald]

Reads:
Town: CR, rb
Null: BTD6, BlackStar, Mas
Scum: key, xyzzy, Alchemist

How is CR a townread for you?
For making a wall post?

~Mas Y

For his opening.

[Gamma Emerald]

Why?

[Gamma Emerald]

I know that is was Key was declared suspicious, but I put it in massive text, so if someone hammers, it would be their fault. I can unvote if you like, I'm P sure he's scum now.

[Gamma Emerald]

I know that is was Key was declared suspicious, but I put it in massive text, so if someone hammers, it would be their fault. I can unvote if you like, I'm P sure he's scum now.

Finally, an avatar!

Because of BlackStar's reason? LOL Okay.

Elaborate about that comment please.

[Gamma Emerald]

You lack of effort in trying to save yourself isn't doing anything to convince me that you're not caught scum

This is actually my main reason for voting him. I'm not going to say exactly what is the problem to avoid giving ideas, but Key is using a strategy I figured would be used.

[Gamma Emerald]

I still think key is scum, but I think my vote is best applied elsewhere.
UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't know who to vote right now though.

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually, I have an idea where to go.
VOTE: xyzzy
Multiple people have connected you to key. What do you have to say about that?

[Gamma Emerald]

Because I want to apply pressure elsewhere.

[Gamma Emerald]

I've seen people ease off a person when there is time for discussion in another game. If that's not this site's protocol, then I'm sorry, but I'm still questioning xyz

[Gamma Emerald]

What happened was: I didn't look back at my reads list until after that second post, and when I saw it, I remember the connection that was made between key and xyz.

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mas Y Menos

Sheeping Comapring Realities

L-1

rb, this wagon isn't shit. Hop on.

WHAT
You pretty much doubled everyone's suspicions of you with that last line. You acknowledge L-1 AND THEN YOU TELL SOMEONE TO HAMMER?

[Gamma Emerald]

...
I don't even know what to say...
EXCEPT LYNCH THIS SHIT!

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: key
In fact, I've changed my mind. I think rb is key's partner now.

[Gamma Emerald]

I was tying to find the second scum when I unvoted. As I said, I saw that done on another site.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well that was...something.
Key if you are somehow town I will eat a fucking shoe. I don't think I'll be eating a shoe though.

Please don't actually do this; a) shoes aren't very nutritious, b) bets involving outside-game activities arguably violate the site rules (and the reflection in my ruleset as rule C4), although it's somewhat unclear because the rules don't consider the case in much detail. I've edited my rules to make this clearer, adding a new rule C5 that covers the situation — callforjudgement

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey, looks like they removed shoes from the menu. But seriously, I don't really regret that lynch. He was a liability and he would have distracted us from actually decent scumhunting.

[Gamma Emerald]

This is what I likely think it is in:

Gamma Emerald/XYZ
Gamma Emerald/Comparing Realities
Comparing Realities/Gamma Emerald
Comparing Realities/XYZ

I think its one of those 4 pairs.
Really really unsure which.

I am pretty conf on Alchemist and Blackstar.
Pretty sure BTD6 is also town.

~Mas Y

You repeated me and CR.

[Gamma Emerald]

@BlackStar: I randomized my list. If I wanted to quantify I would have explained them.

[Gamma Emerald]

Because that was the plan, to deprive the scum of information needed to rig the lynch.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well I'm sorry but that's how I played.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think it's possible to rig, but I kinda want to do it anyway.

[Gamma Emerald]

@xyzzy: I don't really think the rigging is super likely, and it's a good place to start.
@BlackStar: what is that?

[Gamma Emerald]

a reads list with 3 people each in two categories (scum/not scum) with our lists alphabetized

also, I feel like there should be consensus on whether this is a good idea before anyone actually posts a list. also, popcorning.

Well Mas and BlackStar already did it, I'm pretty much down for it, you suggested it...any major objections?

[Gamma Emerald]

First is town, based on past reads.

[Gamma Emerald]

And Mas's can be concluded by process of elimination.
How you format it doesn't matter, it's the fact you do it.

[Gamma Emerald]

The important part is that it's 3 town, 3 scum. I'd suggest doing one line for each, with Town or Scum before it. Like:
Town: A,B,C
Scum: X,Y,Z

[Gamma Emerald]

Judging by the fact he says he had scum first, I assume it's
Town: Mas, xyz, BTD
Scum: GE, CR, Alchemist
@BlackStar: is this correct?

[Gamma Emerald]

I still have to do mine.

[Gamma Emerald]

Town: BTD6, CR, xyzzy
Scum: Alchemist, BlackStar, MyM

I have a crazy theory, but I'll wait until I get more confident to share.

[Gamma Emerald]

BlackStar, I don't think you read Day 1 very well. In case it wasn't apparent by my posts: I scumread key the most Day 1.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay.
VOTE: key

L-1

I can hammer myself if yall want to rush things.

I think we have our scum here. Don't hammer this guy yet though, we have plenty of time to discuss.

I still think key is scum, but I think my vote is best applied elsewhere.
UNVOTE:

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mas Y Menos

Sheeping Comapring Realities

L-1

rb, this wagon isn't shit. Hop on.

WHAT
You pretty much doubled everyone's suspicions of you with that last line. You acknowledge L-1 AND THEN YOU TELL SOMEONE TO HAMMER?

...
I don't even know what to say...
EXCEPT LYNCH THIS SHIT!

VOTE: key
In fact, I've changed my mind. I think rb is key's partner now.

Well that was...something.
Key if you are somehow town I will eat a fucking shoe. I don't think I'll be eating a shoe though.

Please don't actually do this; a) shoes aren't very nutritious, b) bets involving outside-game activities arguably violate the site rules (and the reflection in my ruleset as rule C4), although it's somewhat unclear because the rules don't consider the case in much detail. I've edited my rules to make this clearer, adding a new rule C5 that covers the situation — callforjudgement

@BlackStar: Looking at this, do you really think it could have been any different?

[Gamma Emerald]

You got BTD6's reversed.

[Gamma Emerald]

I got, including each person reading themselves as town in their counts (Scum:Town)
xyzzy(3:4)
CR(2:5)
GE(3:4)
MyM(4:3)
BlackStar(3:4)
BTD6(1:6)
Alchemist(5:2)

[Gamma Emerald]

I want to lynch Mas, even though I'm 80% sure they're scum. I say we forgo the D3 lynch, it's more important we get ourselves stable and settled.[/countdown]

Um...What?

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay, I think you messed up a negative there, but I do feel like Mas is likely scum as well.
VOTE: Mas y Menos

L-1

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay...
UNVOTE:

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah, if Mas flips town, I will reconsider my read on CR. That sequence of posts just doesn't bode well with me.
PEdit: Mas WTF you said you thought CR could be scum earlier

[Gamma Emerald]

Don't you 2 have a private thread or something?

[Gamma Emerald]

I would vote Mas, but since he's at L-1 I'll pursue a different lead.
VOTE: Alchemist
None of your posts really scream town or scum, but that's the problem: I don't think you've actually put any major ideas out.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay, but what I'm saying is you haven't really added much aside from that. Your posts seem mostly reactionary.

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay then.
VOTE: Mas y Menos

[Gamma Emerald]

Well claiming has no point because there are no PRs.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Mas: If you think CR is town now, who do you scum read besides me and xyzzy?

[Gamma Emerald]

I've never been in a game that didn't have one, so I just assumed that this one did too

this is a really bizarre thing to not notice, but it feels like a mistake that scum wouldn't make.

I don't quite agree here.

[Gamma Emerald]

Point being...?

[Gamma Emerald]

I chacked: I don't think he had any concrete reads that actually carried(the only one I saw was xyzzy being scum with key, and key flipped town.)

[Gamma Emerald]

Hm, I never noticed that. Alchemist just did good.

[Gamma Emerald]

Because the reason I was scumreading Alchemist is because he hadn't posted anything that felt like it was presenting a new take on anything. I'm actually scumreading him a little less now.
@xyzzy: Do you mind if I change my reads?

[Gamma Emerald]

Um. BTD6, YOU are the most townread. Are you truly willing to sacrifice yourself for the good of the town?

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay. I think lynching the towniest person is a

very

bad move.

[Gamma Emerald]

Mas, the main problem with key's self hammer was we still had time to discuss things. If you don't think the rest of Day 2 will be productive, then it's not the same.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well I would like to know your third scumread. I assume it is not BlackStar, because you said "not

as

strong town".

[Gamma Emerald]

Okay, I have to conclude that BTD6 is your current third scum read, based on past posts. Mas y Menos, Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[Gamma Emerald]

BTD6 has got to be scum if only because nobody thinks he's scum.

That's the Too Townie fallacy.

This is interesting. My three scumreads are Alchemist, Mas, and Xyzzy. I could stick with Alchemist at the moment. I could also switch to Xyzzy or Mas if a wagon is required.
VOTE: Mas y Menos
Out of the three, this is my strongest so I will go with this one.

L-1

This feels like two posts glued together.

[Gamma Emerald]

(Off-topic)Yeah I saw your post in the test post topic.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hm. I've had an associative in mind between xyzzy and Mas for most of Day 2. I can share if 4 of 6 of you want, or one is lynched and flips scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

Remember the argument Mas and xyz had over the math of the setup? I think it was planned out as a distancing tactic during Night 0.

[Gamma Emerald]

The thing that made me think of it was the fact that xyzzy and Mas went at it for the longest about that topic. It feels like a two-pronged maneuver: they can point to it as proof they are town if one is lynched, but can also back off from it with relative impunity, leaving each other be for the time after the topic drops. Of course, this is all pretty much speculation for now. But if one flips scum, we should at least consider it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Jeez. So little is happening that it seems we may just get prodded to death. Bleurgh.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah, I really thought Mas was going to be lynched. That was unexpected.

[Gamma Emerald]

What the hell?

[Gamma Emerald]

I swear, that picture is so out of place it can't just be fluff. It has some meaning to it.

[Gamma Emerald]

What friends did you make though?
Cause those guys are scum and I will lynch them.

I am a friend of nobody but Alchemist and Mcmenno here.


~~~~~Mas Y

Seriously? No one else? Rude!

[Gamma Emerald]

what if the real scum is the friends we made along the way?

That's not a very nice thing to say about your friends.

friends, romans, scumbuddies, lend me your ears

Scum claim.

[Gamma Emerald]

Anyone up for refreshing our reads?
Town: Alchemist, BTD
Scum: Más, BlackStar.

[Gamma Emerald]

Pretty sure that kill means it's BTD6

VOTE: BTD6

What makes you say this?

[Gamma Emerald]

Alchemist said he was scumreading BlackStar. He wouldn't have killed his scumread.

[Gamma Emerald]

Alchemist said he was scumreading BlackStar. He wouldn't have killed his scumread.

But nobody was agreeing with him. That's the thing, black star isn't getting lynched.
And CR didn't look that townie so it wasn't like he was über townread

Well before you changed your read on CR BTD was most townread. Actually, that makes sense for why BTD would kill CR: he was the other most townread person, according to my calculations.

[Gamma Emerald]

Like if I know I can't lunch my scum reads as scum I kill them for being unlynchable.
That and other reasons means it can't be Alchemist

Well I would have been down for a BlackStar lynch, in fact I still am.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well now that I remembered my calculations BTD is less towny. Hm. Mas may actually be a "townread" now by virtue of being townier than BlackStar and BTD.

[Gamma Emerald]

alchemist two scum, if not black who you think it is? I want this answered by everyone btw.

Could be you or BTD, leaning BTD ATM.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well now that I remembered my calculations BTD is less towny. Hm. Mas may actually be a "townread" now by virtue of being townier than BlackStar and BTD.

alchemist two scum, if not black who you think it is? I want this answered by everyone btw.

Could be you or BTD, leaning BTD ATM.

Huh? Explain.

I realized BTD may have wanted to get rid of the person who was most townread besides him.

[Gamma Emerald]

I didn't realize you wanted the top 2 specifically. That would be BlackStar and BTD. You are more towny by the fact that I scumread both BlackStar and BTD more, nothing you did really affected it.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I've noticed Menos hasn't been posting much. What are his thoughts on the game state?

[Gamma Emerald]

That was already rejected in the Title Fairy topic.

[Gamma Emerald]

That was already rejected in the Title Fairy topic.

The title for McMenno, FYI.

[Gamma Emerald]

I believe he was telling me his strongest scum read was black star post lynch but i disagreed, we didn't really work that out

So if I got this right, you two basically agree with Alchemist. Okay.

[Gamma Emerald]

Probably BTD or Alchemist. Maybe you if I was feeling more pressure from you.

[Gamma Emerald]

Like I said yesterday, if it's not Black it's BTD. I almost wagoned BTD with you but I don't want anyone at L-1 before they've both had a chance to post.

No I meant explanation on me being more "townie" and you don't explain why black is out of your grouping when you had him as scum.
Thought that was odd

I didn't realize you wanted the top 2 specifically. That would be BlackStar and BTD. You are more towny by the fact that I scumread both BlackStar and BTD more, nothing you did really affected it.

If he's townier, why were you mostly trying to lynch him yesterday? Explain your town read on mas and your scum reads on me & btd.

My townread on Mas comes from the fact both you and BTD are scummier at this point. I scumread you for some comments about xyzzy in the last two Days, and BTD for being one of the most likely perpetrators of the nightkill.

[Gamma Emerald]

I believe BTD may have wanted to be the de facto most townread person, and CR was the second most townread.
As for you, that's in a bit(have to do a wall post)

[Gamma Emerald]

If you think one of me or btd is scum, then why haven't you voted for either of us yet?

I'm waiting for everyone to post before I do.

[Gamma Emerald]

Mas Y Menos' case on me is technically true, but irrelevant. If I were scum, I would have killed CR. However, so would most people. The two Towniest people were CR and myself and I was busy throughout D2 and couldn't post much, so the logical kill would be CR. What you are missing is that if I am scum, would we have killed RB? If so, CR suggested that the partner should be pushing WIFOM for the kill throughout D2.

Think about it. Does the RB kill make much sense if I am scum?

I'm working on a. vote count analysis. I will explain then.

[Gamma Emerald]

Doing a CR style vote count analysis, but without beginning of Day vote counts.

Vote Count

Mas y Menos

(3):

rb

,

keyenpeydee

,

xyzzy

rb

(2): BTD6_maker,

Comparing Realities

Comparing Realities

(2): Gamma Emerald, Alchemist21

keyenpeydee

(1): BlackStar

Not voting

(1): Mas y Menos

With 9 votes in play, 5 votes are required for a lynch.
Deadline is Thursday 22 September at 06:10 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-09-22 06:10:00)

)

Vote Count

Mas y Menos

(2):

xyzzy

,

keyenpeydee

rb

(2): BTD6_maker,

Comparing Realities

Comparing Realities

(2): Alchemist21, Mas y Menos

keyenpeydee

(1): BlackStar

xyzzy

(1): rb

Not voting

(1): Gamma Emerald

With 9 votes in play, 5 votes are required for a lynch.
Deadline is Thursday 22 September at 06:10 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-09-22 06:10:00)

)

Vote Count

xyzzy

(2):

rb

,

keyenpeydee

Mas y Menos

(2):

xyzzy

,

Comparing Realities

Comparing Realities

(1): Mas y Menos

keyenpeydee

(1): BlackStar

BTD6_maker

(1): Alchemist21

Not voting

(2): Gamma Emerald, BTD6_maker

With 9 votes in play, 5 votes are required for a lynch.
Deadline is Thursday 22 September at 06:10 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-09-22 06:10:00)

)

Vote Count

keyenpeydee

(4): BlackStar, Mas y Menos, Alchemist21, Gamma Emerald

Mas y Menos

(3):

xyzzy

,

Comparing Realities

, BTD6_maker

xyzzy

(2):

rb

,

keyenpeydee

With 9 votes in play, 5 votes are required for a lynch.
Deadline is Thursday 22 September at 06:10 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-09-22 06:10:00)

)

Vote Count

keyenpeydee

(4): BlackStar, Mas y Menos, Alchemist21, Gamma Emerald

Mas y Menos

(3):

xyzzy

,

Comparing Realities

, BTD6_maker

xyzzy

(2):

rb

,

keyenpeydee

With 9 votes in play, 5 votes are required for a lynch.
Deadline is Thursday 22 September at 06:10 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-09-22 06:10:00)

)

Vote Count

keyenpeydee

(4): BlackStar, Mas y Menos, Alchemist21, Gamma Emerald

Mas y Menos

(3):

xyzzy

,

Comparing Realities

, BTD6_maker

xyzzy

(2):

rb

,

keyenpeydee

With 9 votes in play, 5 votes are required for a lynch.
Deadline is Thursday 22 September at 06:10 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-09-22 06:10:00)

)

Vote Count

keyenpeydee

(5): BlackStar, Mas y Menos, Alchemist21, Gamma Emerald,

keyenpeydee

Mas y Menos

(2):

xyzzy

, BTD6_maker

xyzzy

(1):

rb

Not voting

(1):

Comparing Realities

With 9 votes in play, 5 votes were required for a lynch.
Deadline was Thursday 22 September at 06:10 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-09-22 06:10:00)

)

keyenpeydee

was lynched. He was a

Vanilla Townie

.

Players have until 1am UTC on Sunday 18 September to submit their night actions, if any (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-09-18 01:00:00)

).
Day 2 will start at around that time (although ugh, you lot ended the day at an inconvenient time, so I might be a little late in starting it).

Vote Count

Comparing Realities

(1): Mas y Menos

BlackStar

(1): Alchemist21

Gamma Emerald

(1): BlackStar

Not voting

(4):

Comparing Realities

, Gamma Emerald,

xyzzy

, BTD6_maker

With 7 votes in play, 4 votes are required for a lynch.
Deadline is Sunday 2 October at 01:15 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-10-02 01:15:00)

)

Vote Count

Comparing Realities

(1): Mas y Menos

BlackStar

(1): Alchemist21

Gamma Emerald

(1): BlackStar

Mas y Menos

(1): BTD6_maker

Not voting

(3):

Comparing Realities

, Gamma Emerald,

xyzzy

With 7 votes in play, 4 votes are required for a lynch.
Deadline is Sunday 2 October at 01:15 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-10-02 01:15:00)

)

Vote Count

Mas y Menos

(3): BTD6_maker,

xyzzy

,

Comparing Realities

BlackStar

(1): Alchemist21

Gamma Emerald

(1): BlackStar

xyzzy

(1): Mas y Menos

Not voting

(1): Gamma Emerald

With 7 votes in play, 4 votes are required for a lynch.
Deadline is Sunday 2 October at 01:15 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-10-02 01:15:00)

)

Vote Count

Mas y Menos

(2):

xyzzy

, Gamma Emerald

BlackStar

(1): Alchemist21

Gamma Emerald

(1): BlackStar

xyzzy

(1): Mas y Menos

Alchemist21

(1): BTD6_maker

Not voting

(1):

Comparing Realities

With 7 votes in play, 4 votes are required for a lynch.
Deadline is Sunday 2 October at 01:15 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-10-02 01:15:00)

)

Vote Count

Mas y Menos

(3):

xyzzy

, Gamma Emerald, BTD6_maker

BlackStar

(1): Alchemist21

Gamma Emerald

(1): BlackStar

xyzzy

(1): Mas y Menos

Not voting

(1):

Comparing Realities

With 7 votes in play, 4 votes are required for a lynch.
Deadline is Sunday 2 October at 01:15 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-10-02 01:15:00)

)

Vote Count

Mas y Menos

(3):

xyzzy

, Gamma Emerald, BTD6_maker

xyzzy

(2): Mas y Menos, Alchemist21

Gamma Emerald

(1): BlackStar

Not voting

(1):

Comparing Realities

With 7 votes in play, 4 votes are required for a lynch.
Deadline is Sunday 2 October at 01:15 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-10-02 01:15:00)

)

Vote Count

Mas y Menos

(3):

xyzzy

, Gamma Emerald, BTD6_maker

xyzzy

(2): Mas y Menos, Alchemist21

Gamma Emerald

(1): BlackStar

Not voting

(1):

Comparing Realities

With 7 votes in play, 4 votes are required for a lynch.
Deadline is Sunday 2 October at 01:15 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-10-02 01:15:00)

)

Vote Count

xyzzy

(4): Mas y Menos, Alchemist21,

Comparing Realities

, BlackStar

Mas y Menos

(3):

xyzzy

, Gamma Emerald, BTD6_maker

With 7 votes in play, 4 votes were required for a lynch.
Deadline was Sunday 2 October at 01:15 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-10-02 01:15:00)

)

xyzzy

has been lynched. They were a

Mafia Goon

.

Night action deadline is Thursday 29 September at 03:00 UTC (

automatic countdown: (expired on 2016-09-29 03:00:00)

).
As there's only one scum left, and thus players are unlikely to need much time overnight, here's a relevant part from rule B18:

If

every living player

PMs the moderator to request a shorter night, the night will end as soon as the moderator has verified that all the PMs were received.

So why was rb killed? Probably for voting xyzzy all of Day 1.

[Gamma Emerald]

Who do you scumread right now?

I second this question. Who do you scumread BTD?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, since everyone has posted, I'm gonna vote.
VOTE: BTD6_maker

[Gamma Emerald]

I've already determined rb was chosen by xyzzy. I would like you to explain why Alchemist would kill CR, BTD.

[Gamma Emerald]

@BlackStar: can you give your top two scumreads?

[Gamma Emerald]

I can trust Mas, but I don't think his chances of survival are that good. I ran a scumread count, and Mas has no one scumreading him. Therefore, he is the optimal nightkill choice for anyone except Mas, as killing himself at night is impossible. I decided it was best to share my calculations, so here they are.
BlackStar: GE, Alchemist, BTD
GE: BlackStar, Mas
Alchemist: BlackStar, BTD
BTD: GE, Alchemist, Mas
Mas: NO ONE
The only one I can see changing are BlackStar's, as his were entered without proper affirmation, and are based on his statement that the last scum was likely on the key wagon D1.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Mas y Menos: what do you think of this post?

I can trust Mas, but I don't think his chances of survival are that good. I ran a scumread count, and Mas has no one scumreading him. Therefore, he is the optimal nightkill choice for anyone except Mas, as killing himself at night is impossible. I decided it was best to share my calculations, so here they are.
BlackStar: GE, Alchemist, BTD
GE: BlackStar, Mas
Alchemist: BlackStar, BTD
BTD: GE, Alchemist, Mas
Mas: NO ONE
The only one I can see changing are BlackStar's, as his were entered without proper affirmation, and are based on his statement that the last scum was likely on the key wagon D1.

[Gamma Emerald]

HOLY SHIT WHAT

[Gamma Emerald]

Shiny Mode activated.
I felt Shiny Mega Rayquaza was a good idea for Halloween.

[Gamma Emerald]

Nah you chill Mas.

[Gamma Emerald]

I already did the NKA on rb: xyzzy was behind that one. Accurate read on xyzzy sure, not sure about the rest.

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually, if CR's reads were right, and he was killed for that, BlackStar is scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm okay with voting BlackStar but I'm still feeling it's BTD more.

[Gamma Emerald]

BlackStar, this is rather illogical. You think he is trying to save his own skin but still scumread me more? How?

[Gamma Emerald]

My scumread on you is strengthening BlackStar. It's a frequent scum tactic to vote one person while pressuring another.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: BTD6_maker

[Gamma Emerald]

WAHAHAHA
You forgot about me!

[Gamma Emerald]

Release the scum PT, I want them to see our pre-game plan as soon as possible.

[Gamma Emerald]

Liked your reactions in the dead thread. I killed CR to try to implicate BTD. It worked.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm curious: why on earth did you townread me out of the blue?

[Gamma Emerald]

@Mas y Menos.

[Gamma Emerald]

BAHAHAHAHA
Now do you see what the deal was Day 2?

It was rigged from the start!

[Gamma Emerald]

GAHAHAHA
I just saw the rule I necessitated brought up again.

[Gamma Emerald]

I wasn't even on the wagon.