Open 652: Making Friends and Enemies Mason PT

[Zyf]

wait I thought there was night talk?

Also "openg" is triggering me XD

So hi NJAC
this is my first time being mason
let's not get killed

[Zyf]

yeah my role pm says "night talk"

[Zyf]

Hi. We should crumb Masons just in case we need it later in the game.

A code formed with the first letter of every post we make at the beginning of D1. In ISO people could read the message, after we point it out. I mean this would only be useful in the late game. For example if one of us is still alive could prove he is mason by revealing the message.

I'd write something like "MASON WITH Z" and you'd write the same but N instead of Z.

I saw a pair of Masons doing this in a past game years ago.

Let me know what you think.

cool, cool
that's a bit long for me though, how about you do that and I do "msn w NJAC"
(the NJAC part being a rvs vote, omgus me back)

[Zyf]

yeah I like thor rn
I can be pretty obvtown so I'm gonna go for that

[Zyf]

I think one of should crumb in their place because we'll be conftown by that point

[Zyf]

Maybe. The point of crumbing in this way is to use it when one or two of us die and the remaining mason(s) need to prove their role.

So if the recruited mason is the one who died and you and I are alive and in a situation in which revealing the message to confirm our roles is necessary, then it's better that the recruited mason had crumbed, not only you and me.

BTW it may happen that we never need to use it. This would probably be only useful in a scenario in which one of us is the only mason left alive, but is suspected, together with a scum who suddenly fakeclaims mason, making it a 1v1. And then the real mason just have to say: "I can prove I'm the real mason" .

I guess you're right.

In any case let's make a list of like top 3 mason targets
I'd say Thor>Dunnstral>karnos...

idk though I haven't played with anyone on this list other than thor (and Hark, but they replaced in then pretty much immediately replaced out without even catching up)

[Zyf]

I know dunnstral's active. i mean like they're kinda spread thin (they play lots of games) but you can't be inactive with 48 posts per day.

karnos, idr where I saw them play but they seemed to have a pretty good idea of what they were doing.

[Zyf]

In the worst case scenario where we've somehow managed to pick all 3 mafia, iirc not_mafia's pretty good

[Zyf]

In the worst case scenario where we've somehow managed to pick all 3 mafia, iirc not_mafia's pretty good

Please reword this, because I'm not sure I understand what you're saying here.

BTW, my English is not very good, so if something I say isn't clear enough please let me know and I'll reword it.

basically, not_mafia is my 4th choice
because there's a slim chance that our 3 top choices are all mafia
I think we should try and wait until night 2 to pick, the NK will give us an idea of who's scum/town and thor may die by then

[Zyf]

ur right wow

but is it worth outing ourselves?

[Zyf]

Do we get to talk to a given recruit before the next day starts?

In any case NJAC, I'd like to either choose thor, texcat, or bbt

[Zyf]

roughly agree with that list

I'd also say bbt or thor, your call since I'm probably going to die first.

[Zyf]

Only difference is that I think penguin deserves to be nullscum and thor deserves to be nullscum rather than scum

[Zyf]

Will they have access to the thread immediately upon recruit?
Or rather, will be able to post a "message" in the PT to them that they can see during the following day?

[Zyf]

Oh well, the recruited mason will have access to this thread when D2 starts. So we might leave them a message, like advising them to crumb like we did on D1's first posts.

Ok, I say we recruit bbt, then.

[Zyf]

DRAFT: If you are town, bbt–
First, please crumb like we did day 1. This is done using the first letter of your first 5 posts. Write it as "MSN W..." I will then provide you an opportunity to address your next post starting with "Zyf," completing the crumb.

If anyone decides to fakeclaim scum, I will be the one to out myself. I'm in the least safe position in terms of a potential nightkill, since I was a major deciding factor in killing Karnos.

–––––––––
This work for you, NJAC?

[Zyf]

if bbt is scum, thor has the potential to die
if thor is scum, bbt looks like a ML option

[Zyf]

am I safe to declare it?

[Zyf]

Who do you think is scummier: BBT or Thor?

thor

[Zyf]

still, better to be safe if we like both, yeah?

[Zyf]

fokin hell don't give me the choice then
You state the official recruit in bold and write them the message

[Zyf]

too late now, but naru/penguin would've made an interesting recruit

[Zyf]

too late now, but naru/penguin would've made an interesting recruit

Pretty sure it's not too late. We can change our action at any time.

Why do you think one of them is an interesting recruit?

decent scum chance


you forgot to mention that if anyone outs themselves, I will

[Zyf]

njac did you see it

[Zyf]

it's finalized.

[Zyf]

FUCKIN HELL
THOR GET TF IN HERE

[Zyf]

I'm not sure if N_M is scum at this point

[Zyf]

Yeah only time I'd kill hark is in desperate lylo reconsideration phase

Still don't like pinguino but their thor vote seems less off than jumping on the naru wagon
They started scumreading like everyone tho

[Zyf]

@Mod-Did you give thor thread access?

[Zyf]

ffs thor

[Zyf]

in my last game skold deliberately played a TERRIBLE game of "fuck it I'm going to oppose every wagon then just sit my ass on the biggest wagon at deadline"

and they were scum
SOOO N_M needs to eat rope imo

[Zyf]

Would need to properly reprocess their ISO, but their last bit came off with town vibes

[Zyf]

Imagine if naru was a mason...
Can i just note that I roll not!VT an unusually high amount of times

Btw thor did you crumb in any way? i didn't bother to check.

[Zyf]

Bbt still relevant to your scumteam?

[Zyf]

so we chasing penguin and N_M tomorrow, yeah?

[Zyf]

oh wow
ok thanks for outing us thor ffs what was that

Ok, I'll follow Penguin initially then jump on later, if i can

[Zyf]

i don't think tex is scum tbh

[Zyf]

look at their last post–"kill zyf and texcat"
i can't tell if that's a red herringgggg
and they point to hark too

i'm gonna gamble and say we push texcat
if i'm not there, push 'em hard without getting them killed immediately
n_m can get pushed by others without us having to get our hands too deep in the blood

[Zyf]

based solely upon that end of day there, I'd say penguin is much more likely to be town tbh

[Zyf]

damn I missed a lot
I was serious in my asking him to claim; but I had 102-103 fever all afternoon and couldn't do literally ANYTHING, so yeah.

Sooo...texcat? Is that who we should be shooting for?

[Zyf]

or could it be penguin that we should lynch?

[Zyf]

LIT

[Zyf]

aight.

[Zyf]

I'm chasing down penguin

[Zyf]

right, I can still access the thread when it's locked
i honestly think i'm more likely to die tbh

penguin=scum is pretty much based on their post-lynch response.
it's just...wrong