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I Am Innocent · Post Post #125 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 11:10 am

And one on Titus

Shadow_step · Post Post #126 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 7:50 pm

Oh no, Karnos :/

mhsmith0 · Post Post #127 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:22 pm

Did I just get the easiest win ever? Crossing fingers...

mhsmith0 · Post Post #128 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:31 pm

Just skimming, karnos's lazy meaningless vanity vote on shadow (which is quickly abandoned) seems to mimic his lazy meaningless vanity vote on wolf bro transcend in open 646. so from that alone I could see a connection.

Also skimming karnos ISO...
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8321634 talking ABOUT shadow not TO shadow
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8347634 mediocre question to shadow
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8356222 easy question to ask to shadow
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p8363862 meh interaction
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8363871, http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p8363906, http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p8363914 plausible distancing/bussing posts

At the least, karnos isn't making his interactions with his buddies numerous and looking good (though not as blatant as in 646 w trans). Could easily be the last wolf.

Transcend · Post Post #129 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:41 pm

Shadow's trolling I bet lol

mhsmith0 · Post Post #130 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:47 pm

btw IF karnos was actually ascetic goon I'd call the setup scum-sided by MS standards.

Two mafia PR's, including one investigative (that can be verified as an actual role by the tracker) and a second that is immune to BOTH town investigative roles... that's a lot of scum power against town power that basically sucks (ZERO ability to stop night kills [BG only switches the victim unlike doc/JK], and the potential to vig PR's, and the potential for the BG to accidentally save scum). If the vig doesn't kill scum, and does kill at least one villager that scum aren't simultaneously shooting (and that happens reasonably often), then scum only need three mislynches to win. A game that can potentially be won D3 is a pretty nice edge, plus gunsmith gets a false guilty and one block.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #131 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:47 pm

In post 129, Transcend wrote:Shadow's trolling I bet lol

definitely possible. Twilight trolling is fun, highly recommended

Transcend · Post Post #132 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:52 pm

Twilight trolling is so much fun lmfao, I don't know what's so amusing about it.

mhsmith0 · Post Post #133 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 8:56 pm

I'd still hold up IV's fake scum claim at
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p7983722
as a fantastic example of effort. Amusingly, BTD's reaction was garbage but somehow got town read, but kappy (the other wolf) reacted really well, and was a big part of why they won. So fake scum claims don't always work that well, but it can still be fun to mess with the board (if you guys lynched me final 5 in 646 I was definitely going to do an actual effort at a fake scum claim FWIW).

Transcend · Post Post #134 (ISO) » Mon Oct 03, 2016 10:03 pm

IV op

Transcend · Post Post #135 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:49 am

dang now i gotta decide who was trolling twilight. shadow or karnos.

leaning shadow lol.

Transcend · Post Post #136 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:04 am

So glad I called karnos being town otherwise I would've had to call myself an idiot.

Still think Mich's last scum and probably gonna win.

If it's kraska i'll be floored.

I'll be somewhat surprised if it's Elyse.

If only karnos read my slot right

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #137 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:08 am

they should no-lynch tomorrow

Transcend · Post Post #138 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:10 am

what good will that fucking do honestly

nero/giga get nk'd tonight, if they nl the other one will be nk'd and it's kraska/elyse/michel.

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #139 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:13 am

cause giga isn't confirmed. It's pure upside.

Transcend · Post Post #140 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:18 am

fair enough.

in that case, scum will probably No Kill.

Shadow_step · Post Post #141 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:57 am

What happens if town keep deciding to NL and scum keep deciding to no kill? lol

Transcend · Post Post #142 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:14 am

Transcend · Post Post #143 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:15 am

I think town must lynch or draw. Scum aren't required to draw.

I think.

Don't quote me on that.

chilledtea · Post Post #144 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:26 am

If scum doesn't kill at all, then there is no more a danger to town.

In that sense, town generally wins. The lynching is taking place because of the killing. If the no-kill and no-lynch keeps happening then either it is considered a draw, or a town win.

Not sure what the normal guidelines on this are. But scum would be kind of playing against their wincon by no-killing for several days.

Shadow_step · Post Post #145 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 3:30 am

In post 144, chilledtea wrote:Not sure what the normal guidelines on this are. But scum would be kind of playing against their wincon by no-killing for several days.

Not really(?)
They are no killing so they have an easier day phase.

It's the same way scum bussing isn't playing against their win con.

chilledtea · Post Post #146 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:28 am

No killing on a single night is acceptable but if it turns out to be no killing on consecutive nights then it means that as long as town doesn't lynch scum won't, which means town wouldn't have a reason to lynch in the first place.

Transcend · Post Post #147 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:38 am

There's no meteor rule?

karnos · Post Post #148 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:44 am

Scum should just kill nero. Unless that was some really crazy scum gambit, fake a guilty on your scum partner.

JarJarDrinks · Post Post #149 (ISO) » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:54 am

well yeah, they're gonna kill nero tonight. We're talking about what scum would do tomorrow if town no-lynches (which they should).