Mini Normal #1838 - Game Over

[Gamma Emerald]

Could be faux-analytical

What are you trying to say with this post?

[boring]

@Grendel, at your request.
1) What is your preferred alignment?
Town. It's the puzzle of the game that attracts me. Playing scum is just a chore that you perform to give town a fun challenge.
2) Are you often mislynched? If so, why is that?
I'm under 50/50. I've gotten better at reading. I've only completed town games offsite though, so I'm not sure that counts for much.
3) Can you describe your play style concisely in one sentence?
Nope. I've only been playing since June.
4) If you were the deciding vote at lylo with the slot above you, and the slot below you, which player would you lynch and why? (Ex: 1 would be deciding between 13, and 2. 2 would be deciding between 1 and 3. 3 would decide between 2 and 4.)
It would depend on what happens between now and LYLO.
5) How excited are you for this game?
Reasonably.

Well nn30 is probably town.

I don't like this. It seems in spirit with OMGUS. I don't think it's alignment-related, I just don't think it's effective scum-hunting. You shouldn't town read people for town-reading you.

[eagerSnake]

Could be faux-analytical

What are you trying to say with this post?

That I'm not giving him town points for it

[Zoronos]

Could be faux-analytical

True. But I don't hard-bucket anyone so. Everything is just a matter of probabilities. In weighs towny though, so it pushes the needle. He's at least thinking about the game as a whole rather than mono focusing on one or two targets.
I find town try to grab the whole game at once, whereas scum just find 'their target' for the day and tunnel in on it.
The least charitable explanation imo is that he's trying to undermine an accuser's confidence, but I think it more likely he's inspecting reasoning. I like inspection of reasoning so that's what I'm going with as most-likely-explanation-for-post.

[eagerSnake]

I don't like this. It seems in spirit with OMGUS. I don't think it's alignment-related, I just don't think it's effective scum-hunting. You shouldn't town read people for town-reading you.

That's not the reason I town read him.

[Gamma Emerald]

Well nn30 is probably town.

I don't like this. It seems in spirit with OMGUS. I don't think it's alignment-related, I just don't think it's effective scum-hunting. You shouldn't town read people for town-reading you.

This.
Only if it's an unpopular read should you townread someone for townreading you(though it could be pocketing scum; haven't seen that yet).

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Boring You don't even have a witty one-liner to go with your vote... that's really... boring...

You say that like it's a bad thing.

I like it when people make Beowulf jokes. Do you not like people referencing your name in jokes?

QUESTIONS FOR EVERYBODY

1) What is your preferred alignment?

2) Are you often mislynched? If so, why is that?

3) Can you describe your play style concisely in one sentence?

4) If you were the deciding vote at lylo with the slot above you, and the slot below you, which player would you lynch and why? (Ex: 1 would be deciding between 13, and 2. 2 would be deciding between 1 and 3. 3 would decide between 2 and 4.)

5) How excited are you for this game?

Nah Eager is lame, you're the one I want to see in action!

What am I? Chopped liver?

Sure, I'll play along.

1.) Third party.

2.) No.

3.) No.

4.) No comment.

5.) Very. I feel like I can learn a lot from everyone here.

[boring]

I don't think anyone has done anything that is towny or scummy yet but this is amusing to watch.

Amusing, disturbing, tomato, potato.

[MariaR]

I don't think anyone has done anything that is towny or scummy yet but this is amusing to watch.

Amusing, disturbing, tomato, potato.

I can't tell if there's meaning behind this post or you're trying to rhyme I'll assume the ladder and if so gj ^_^

[eagerSnake]

If you guys think that I'm townreading him simply for townreading me, you are underestimating the complexity of my thoughts and plots.

[nn30]

@everyone - is there a list of all the possible PR's which could be in this game? Would be useful if I could dig through it.

Naw he's new: I know because he was auto-subbed into my first game.

Sorry about that!

[Gamma Emerald]

@nn30 Yeah: you were the second one in Gally's slot.

[nn30]

I don't think anyone has done anything that is towny or scummy yet but this is amusing to watch.

I read the RVS of a few random games. In 2 of 3 games my initial scum-reads turned out to be accurate. There's a lot to be learned in RVS.

[Gamma Emerald]

I don't think anyone has done anything that is towny or scummy yet but this is amusing to watch.

I read the RVS of a few random games. In 2 of 3 games my initial scum-reads turned out to be accurate. There's a lot to be learned in RVS.

I'm learning to put more faith into my reads.

[eagerSnake]

I don't think anyone has done anything that is towny or scummy yet but this is amusing to watch.

Amusing, disturbing, tomato, potato.

I can't tell if there's meaning behind this post or you're trying to rhyme I'll assume the ladder and if so gj ^_^

Also, my rhyme was better; I wasn't even trying to rhyme. Also, fillfillfillfillfill.

[Gamma Emerald]

Fill Nye the Science Guy

[Gamma Emerald]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game
For nn30.

[nn30]

Grendel's opening post is also potentially scummy.

Anybody up for some questions?

I've been finishing up a new set I want to use.

Why not just ask the questions? This seems unnecessarily roundabout.

If I was wanting town approval before I did something then why did I not wait for a positive response before posting?

Some people are roundabout in the things they do. However, it doesn't mean that they don't get anything done.

That was more me signifying that I was about to post my questions then anything. If I had gotten a response, positive or negative, I would not have pulled back from my original opening.

If its cool I'd like you all to leave me to analyze them,

If this is non-sarcastic then I'm holding you to this - I'd like to hear what actual alignment-indicative or otherwise useful content you're getting out of these questions.

Also of all games to feel like you need to force an RQS or RVS, this is a very silly one. We have a claim. On page one. An unusual one at that. We have a goldmine of material to analyze already - why do you feel the need to instigate an RQS? RQS and RVS as they're usually conceived are both kind of outdated anyway. There's usually enough substance in the first few posts to get reads that are legitimate enough to argue about, even if they're very unstable.

Yes, I like to review the question results to see if I can divine some alignments. Why not contribute to the game with your answers?

I don't know if Eager claiming ascetic at day start is more likely to come from town, or scum. So I'm doing something I'm more familiar with.

I'm interested why you find my entrance poitenally scummy when you feel Zoronos is legitimately scummy. If you thought that Zorones was implying I'm scum then why was your initial reaction to my post, "well that's kinda scummy"? Sorry, but its weird that you'd have me as a tertiary scum read while your top scum is, in your opinion, also scum reading me. If you think he is scum, why do you think I am scum too?

I am not seeing much town intent with these pushes of yours.

Zoronos, you're implying a scumread on Grendel; why not follow it up with a vote?

Because I don't vote the instant I have an inkling of suspicion. Or moreover, because the simple act of asking the questions isn't necessarily scum play. Using the questions as a sole form of contribution on the other hand is (which doesn't necessarily mean Grendel, a townie putting down that kind of list gives the scum room to dwell on it to contribute, so it isn't even that Grendel is scum for doing it, it's just pro-scum to exist). So yes, I'd rather take the hard line early and nip camouflaging play in the bud.

Or maybe these boards don't have a conception of 'fake content' or maybe I'm using the wrong jargon to explain the idea. If I'm unclear, well.

Okay, gun to your head: Am I mislead town, or misleading mafia?

I disagree what you are saying about RQS, but I'll have to wait until I've gotten a decent sample size before I post full reasoning.

In the meantime it'd be super nice if you'd humor me and play along.

I'm suspicious of this post. It's too early for you to be this defensive.

[Gamma Emerald]

Nah dw he's this way as town.

[eagerSnake]

Take it at face value, nn30. It's unimportant for now in terms of determining his alignment.

[Zoronos]

I'm suspicious of this post. It's too early for you to be this defensive.

I'd cut him a little slack. I basically called his approach to the game bad and slightly scummy. No defensiveness would be really odd (and an indicator of a low-ego player, or someone artificially playing that way).

[Shadow_step]

This game just got easy .

[Shadow_step]

Kidding lol

Hello eager, do you have any early reads?

Anyone else can also answer this.

[Gamma Emerald]

A few townreads atm

[Shadow_step]

@Boring You don't even have a witty one-liner to go with your vote... that's really... boring...

You say that like it's a bad thing.

I like it when people make Beowulf jokes. Do you not like people referencing your name in jokes?

QUESTIONS FOR EVERYBODY

1) What is your preferred alignment?

2) Are you often mislynched? If so, why is that?

3) Can you describe your play style concisely in one sentence?

4) If you were the deciding vote at lylo with the slot above you, and the slot below you, which player would you lynch and why? (Ex: 1 would be deciding between 13, and 2. 2 would be deciding between 1 and 3. 3 would decide between 2 and 4.)

5) How excited are you for this game?

Nah Eager is lame, you're the one I want to see in action!

What am I? Chopped liver?

1. Mafia, cause I love the wifom. But I probably play better as town.

2. I'm not often mislynched. Occasionally might be a better word.

3. I'm a good analyser and gut reader. My reads are generally good but I have a hard time convincing town that X is scum[Hint-that person is actually scum](Ask Maria).

4. Probably the one below me.

5. 7/10