Mini Normal #1838 - Game Over

[Shadow_step]

Grendel, you mind answering your own questions?

Also I think LUV is scum and everyone should be voting there.

[podoboq]

Official Vote Count 1.03

Lynching

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

Grendel (2): boring, MariaR
Zornos (2): DierFire, implosion
nn30 (2): Gamma Emerald, nn30
implosion (1): PenguinPower
boring (1): eagerSnake
Lil Uzi Vert (1): Shadow_step
MariaR (1): Lil Uzi Vert

Not Voting (3): Grendel, Zoronos, Slandaar

Deadline: (expired on 2016-10-18 15:22:00)

[Gamma Emerald]

Grendel, you mind answering your own questions?

Also I think LUV is scum and everyone should be voting there.

I implore thee to tell me how you got that in 2 posts.

[Shadow_step]

Naked voting is Pro scum. ^

[Gamma Emerald]

It's RVS. Sure it's kinda dumb not to make up a silly reason to vote, but I would wait a bit before condemning him to the gallows.

[implosion]

Yes, I like to review the question results to see if I can divine some alignments. Why not contribute to the game with your answers?

I don't really see it as a contribution until I'm convinced that they're useful but I don't have a problem with humoring you (I sort of find it weird that Zoronos explicitly does? not scummy weird but etc and at least they did explain why to some extent)
1) I historically have preferred town but was actually somewhat hoping to draw scum this game because I believe I haven't played a game on mafiascum as bona fide mafia in 2.5 years. Which is ridiculous. 1 game as a traitor in that timespan. And I can say this more openly now since this is the only game I'm in :p.
2) I've been mislynched *mostly* in games that I shouldn't have signed up for in the first place because of not having the time for them, although there was another recent game I played which was the first game I can recall in a long time where I was mislynched and really felt like I shouldn't have been.
3) I don't have a playstyle beyond doing what I feel like doing at the time.
4) Not enough information (although it's ironic that they're both on my scumread list right now).
5) I've learned not to really be excited for games per se because how much I enjoy games is largely a product of factors that can't be predicted at the start of a game.

I'm interested why you find my entrance poitenally scummy when you feel Zoronos is legitimately scummy. If you thought that Zorones was implying I'm scum then why was your initial reaction to my post, "well that's kinda scummy"? Sorry, but its weird that you'd have me as a tertiary scum read while your top scum is, in your opinion, also scum reading me. If you think he is scum, why do you think I am scum too?

It's really quite simple. I essentially pay 0 heed on d1 to interactions without flips. Why can't I find you both individually scummy? And further why couldn't I suspect you both of being scum together with Zoronos bussing you? I really don't see what you're getting at or why it's strange to be scumreading both of you.

Agreed with eager that nn is probably town. Although I wouldn't go so far as to say that nn can only be scum if they're an alt; that's a bit premature, there can be good players who haven't played on MS before.

This is a decently analytical thought though for this point in the game. ++towniness.

I actually find this interesting because after my last game that just ended before I signed up for this one, I sort of had a realization that I (and maybe everyone?) put too much stock in logic or analysis, or the quality of an analysis, as determinative of alignment. Individual players who are logical in their town games will almost certainly be logical and show a level of rigor in their analysis in their scum games. Do you really think simply the presence of analytical thought is indicative of town? Or do you think that the thought process Grendel displayed was more likely to come from town?

[implosion]

It's a little odd that people keep thinking eager is just townreading nn for townreading him. I thought it was pretty obvious why eager townread nn (although I also like nn's reaction to eager townreading them).

Unvote
VOTE: LUV

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Implosion
Serious vote. He doesn't talk about LUV at all but then votes him. Trying to flashwagon are we?

[nn30]

@Grendel, what have you learned from your questions?

[boring]

Naked voting is Pro scum. ^

Why would an RVS vote accompanied by "baaa..." or "hello" be more defensible than a naked vote?

[Shadow_step]

Naked voting is Pro scum. ^

Why would an RVS vote accompanied by "baaa..." or "hello" be more defensible than a naked vote?

It isn't, unfortunately I only have one vote.

[PenguinPower]

QUESTIONS FOR EVERYBODY

1) What is your preferred alignment?

2) Are you often mislynched? If so, why is that?

3) Can you describe your play style concisely in one sentence?

4) If you were the deciding vote at lylo with the slot above you, and the slot below you, which player would you lynch and why? (Ex: 1 would be deciding between 13, and 2. 2 would be deciding between 1 and 3. 3 would decide between 2 and 4.)

5) How excited are you for this game?

Since everyone else is playing...I don't want to be left out.

1.) Town. I'm always scumread, so being scum is hard.
2.) Never been mislynched. Come close several times, but never.
3.) Undefined.
4.) Below...for username reasons and whatnot.
5.) On a scale of Little Penguin to Emperor Penguin, about a Macaroni Penguin.

[PenguinPower]

It's RVS. Sure it's kinda dumb not to make up a silly reason to vote, but I would wait a bit before condemning him to the gallows.

VOTE: Implosion
Serious vote. He doesn't talk about LUV at all but then votes him. Trying to flashwagon are we?

Um...what? Explain.

[Gamma Emerald]

LUV's vote was RVS.

[Shadow_step]

2.) Never been mislynched. Come close several times, but never.

Seriously?

[boring]

Naked voting is Pro scum. ^

Why would an RVS vote accompanied by "baaa..." or "hello" be more defensible than a naked vote?

It isn't, unfortunately I only have one vote.

We've too many players who fall into your "unacceptable RVS vote" category for them all to be scum. How'd you come to the conclusion that this one in particular is scum?

Also, what do you think of Implosion sheeping you with what amounts to a naked vote?

[PenguinPower]

2.) Never been mislynched. Come close several times, but never.

Seriously?

Ah...I forgot. Ok, once.

[boring]

Since everyone else is playing...I don't want to be left out.

1.) Town. I'm always scumread, so being scum is hard.
2.) Never been mislynched. Come close several times, but never.
3.) Undefined.
4.) Below...for username reasons and whatnot.
5.) On a scale of Little Penguin to Emperor Penguin, about a Macaroni Penguin.

Actually, now that I think of it, I should correct my answer to #2. I was lumping all deaths together. I've been mislynched once (but I've only played 4.5 town games).

Also, your scale is bad, and you should feel bad. Macaroni penguin is the best penguin.

[Shadow_step]

We've too many players who fall into your "unacceptable RVS vote" category for them all to be scum. How'd you come to the conclusion that this one in particular is scum?

Also, what do you think of Implosion sheeping you with what amounts to a naked vote?

gut
Why, do you have a problem with my push?

I don't care about Implosion as long as he helps me lynch scum.

[PenguinPower]

Also, your scale is bad, and you should feel bad. Macaroni penguin is the best penguin.

The scale is purely size-related.

[PenguinPower]

LUV's vote was RVS.

Why did you say "serious vote."

[Gamma Emerald]

My vote on implosion is serious.

[PenguinPower]

My vote on implosion is serious.

Yes, but why did you call it out as a serious vote?

[Gamma Emerald]

Because I wanted them to know I had a reason for voting that's actually game-based.

[PenguinPower]

Because I wanted them to know I had a reason for voting that's actually game-based.

So, in your mind, we're still in RVS - since you had to clarify that you were serious- but a potentially random vote on LUV is scummy because a flashwagon is potentially developing?

I guess I'm not really seeing that. Also, I have no problem running LUV up to L-1.

VOTE: LUV