Mini Normal #1838 - Game Over

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Official Vote Count 1.09

Lynching

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

PenguinPower (3): Grendel, Shadow_step, boring
Zoronos (2): DierFire, Gamma Emerald,
Gamma Emerald (2): implosion, PenguinPower
implosion (1): nn30
boring (1): eagerSnake

Not Voting (4): Zoronos, Slandaar, MariaR, Lil Uzi Vert

Deadline: (expired on 2016-10-18 15:22:00)

[Dierfire]

I find both PenguinPower and Gamma Emerald to be suspicious.

I definitely don't like the interaction between Gamma Emerald and PenguinPower finishing in 149. PenguinPower makes a great show of pointing out a seeming contradiction in the way that Gamma Emerald is treating Lil Uzi Vert and implosion, but then votes for Lil Uzi Vert (later clarifying in 240 that this was a result of Lil Uzi Vert not answering RQS and not contributing, which to me both seem like weaker reasons than what PenguinPower gave against Gamma Emerald). Of course, this makes the eventual move to Gamma Emerald in 335 seem forced or rushed (particularly given the hesitance in 320 and 309).

The rapid change between 221 (Grendel is either Town playing poorly or Mafia) and 242 (Grendel is Town) is also suspicious to me. While I agree that the last line of 241 sounds more like the kind of thing that Grendel would say as Town than as Mafia, the speed of reversal from the aggression in the earlier posts makes me believe that the aggression was feigned.

UNVOTE: Zoronos
VOTE: PenguinPower

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@implosion
I see your case that PenguinPower is Town in 330. I think that there's a chance that some of the emotions that you've assigned to PenguinPower (making him more likely to be Town) are feigned here. Could you link me to the previous game that you mentioned? I hesitate to guess before reading, but I could speculate a few reasons that PenguinPower, as Mafia, would respond differently to Grendel in this game than to you in the other.
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I could perhaps note a few additional minor points against Gamma Emerald. The major points are all either associative or have been discussed already (or both).

@Gamma Emerald
In 224 you thought that Zoronos was suspicious for being defensive. What do you think of PenguinPower in 221?

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I'm out of time for this interval. I'll back in a few hours to discuss why I'm reading implosion, Grendel, and nn30 as Town (I could tentatively add eagerSnake and Zoronos as well).

[Gamma Emerald]

He was being confrontive. Could be scummy but I'm not sure.

[boring]

Well, at least Dierfire has given us something of substance, rather than just a prod dodge. If only Slandaar would see fit to do the same.

[MariaR]

Consider my vote on PP for now I'm uneasy for some reason but that's where I feel like voting.

[nn30]

VOTE: PenguinPower


I like DierFire's reasoning in 351.

[PenguinPower]

Yay. I've never been a D1 mislynch.

[nn30]

@MariaR - It took me a while to figure out who you were again once you switched your avatar.

The other avatar made me think everything you were saying was sassy and brusque.

Now I read everything you say as soft and timid. Even the stuff I've re-read.

Psychology is weird.

[nn30]

Assuming MariaR's vote from 354 is counted without the tags, Penguin is at L-1 right now.

[PenguinPower]

Consider my vote on PP for now I'm uneasy for some reason but that's where I feel like voting.

Then why don't you?

[PenguinPower]

Assuming MariaR's vote from 354 is counted without the tags, Penguin is at L-1 right now.

It doesn't. No vote tag or bolding. Read the rules.

[MariaR]

@MariaR - It took me a while to figure out who you were again once you switched your avatar.

The other avatar made me think everything you were saying was sassy and brusque.

Now I read everything you say as soft and timid. Even the stuff I've re-read.

Psychology is weird.

I've been told I have a alter ego because I can be really sweet in one moment but cutthroat in another so~

My vote isn't on PP the reason I'm iffy is I haven't been reading as closely as I want to admit but he seems like a good vote regardless

I think I've coasted quite a bit.

Pedit: Cause I dislike lynching this early.

[Zoronos]

The rapid change between 221 (Grendel is either Town playing poorly or Mafia) and 242 (Grendel is Town) is also suspicious to me. While I agree that the last line of 241 sounds more like the kind of thing that Grendel would say as Town than as Mafia, the speed of reversal from the aggression in the earlier posts makes me believe that the aggression was feigned.

Why specifically is that change suspicious? He was clearly entertaining the possibility of town in 221 (you summarized it above, 'Town playing poorly or Mafia'), and Grendel posted a whole bunch in between those two posts. Explain your thinking to me.

[Shadow_step]

VOTE: Pp

[eagerSnake]

That's L-1.

[Gamma Emerald]

L-1 in 3 days. Nice quickwagon.

[nn30]

Naked voting is Pro scum. ^

VOTE: Pp

Dude...

[MariaR]

to fast a wagon for someone not very scummy nope not doing it

[eagerSnake]

VOTE: PenguinPower

Hammered

[eagerSnake]

VOTE: Unvote

Unhammered

[MariaR]

VOTE: Gamma

oh no way am I letting you go
Pedit: wtfff

[Shadow_step]

Flail scum flail

[MariaR]

Flail scum flail

I will kick your ass if that msg was in any way directed towards me edgehog

[nn30]

What are the rules on what snake just did?

[Shadow_step]

Naked voting is Pro scum. ^

VOTE: Pp

Dude...

Why would it be directed to you ? Are you scum?