Mini Normal #1838 - Game Over

[Grendel]

@nn30 I didn't actually say I had a town read on Gamma, just that the way he meta reads people looked typical for him.

He has been something of a null read.

I've seen scum Gamma, and while nothing has been pointing towards this, there hasn't been a lot that looks like town!Gamma either. I need more time to sort him, last time we played together I really jumped the gun with my sr on him. Like him just laying down "x is town" isn't enough substance for me to be like, "Oh yep, this is Obscum over here". Especially when I feel there are scummier options on the table.

I'm from the same forum that Gamma is from and it has been mentioned enough this game that I'm surprised you didn't notice.

Lastly, Why did you preface your post with a town read on me?

[nn30]

@Grendel

I prefaced my post with a town read on you so that you know I'm not coming at you from an antagonistic point of view.

[Grendel]

@Gamma Outside of how I opened my game why are you town reading me?

I would also like an explanation as why Implosion went from scum to town, and why Shadow step went from town to what ever "need to contribute" means.

Lastly What do you think of Penguin?

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@Grendel

I prefaced my post with a town read on you so that you know I'm not coming at you from an antagonistic point of view.

Hmm, okay. I thought you might be worried I'd brush you off or something.

Which I wouldn't have btw.

[nn30]

Nah, not worried you'd brush me off.

Ulterior motive - trying to let the people I have town read explicitly know it.

Enough people have town read me by now that if I don't get NK'd tonight it's because of some WIFOM shit.

In the meantime I want to do my due diligence scum hunting and town telling.

@Snake - you're in the town pile too.

[PenguinPower]

Hey, Grendel. What do you think about the occurrences that have happened in your absence?

[Grendel]

You mean the fake hammer?

Aside from scum actually slipping, which is rare, I think its way too easy for scum to fake "town reactions".

And I don't really like Shadow setting that up because it is a dumb tactic. I don't know if that says anything about his alignment. Except maybe sifting potential blame on Eager that is kinda scummy. I would like to know which players Shadow step got town reads from that though. Lots of people think nn30 is town. Saying MariaR looked town, but is good as faking reactions is not helpful. I didn't notice any other reads except a mutually exclusive relationship between LUV and you. Nothing that useful.

@Shadow Did you get any reads from the fake hammer that were actually useful?

As for Eager, I think he knew it was a fake hammer. He did unvote right after to prevent an actual hammer from occurring. So my tr on Eager stands. As for the others, I still think MariaR is town. Still null on Gamma. I am more open to town!nn30. Still scum reading you, Penguin. Really no big shift in my reads except some questions toward the shadow slot, and some confidence that nn30 is town now.

For reasons outside the fake hammer my scum read on Zoronos is dampening. Several of his post looks really good and make sense. But I'm wary of being duped. Also feel like ZoronosXPengiun is a real, viable possibility. While Zoronos put in some words on how you are suspicious I don't think he ever sounded comfortable lynching you, Penguin.

[PenguinPower]

Cool. We should probably go ahead an string me up so you can start doing something useful.

[PenguinPower]

Btw...not liking Slandaar right now. Hate. Absolutely hate. Prodging.

[PenguinPower]

I don't think he ever sounded comfortable lynching you, Penguin.

Yeah. Probably because I'm town.

[Grendel]

Does anybody have some hypothetical scum teams cooked up?

I can't I.D. third scum for my scum team and want to hear some interactions people may have caught between people.

A lot of people I originally thought could be with Penguin were, or are, on his wagon.

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I thought I was bad town?

You sound like you trust my opinion.

[Gamma Emerald]

@Gamma Outside of how I opened my game why are you town reading me?

I would also like an explanation as why Implosion went from scum to town, and why Shadow step went from town to what ever "need to contribute" means.

Lastly What do you think of Penguin?

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@Grendel

I prefaced my post with a town read on you so that you know I'm not coming at you from an antagonistic point of view.

Hmm, okay. I thought you might be worried I'd brush you off or something.

Which I wouldn't have btw.

I never stated I townread you, but this is your normal townplay, so yeah I townread you because your play is towny.
Implosion became town because he a) actually read LUV's post and b) still scumread me after like half the players stated a townread on me. Shadow needs to contribute because he hasn't seemed to have done much beyond voting LUV and PP.
PP seems like scum. His push against you has been very bad looking.

[podoboq]

Official Vote Count 1.11

Lynching

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to lynch.

PenguinPower (4): Grendel, Shadow_step, boring, Dierfire,
Gamma Emerald (3): implosion, PenguinPower, MariaR
Zoronos (1): Gamma Emerald
boring (1): eagerSnake

Not Voting (4): Zoronos, Slandaar, Lil Uzi Vert, nn30

V/LA: Gamma Emerald

Deadline: (expired on 2016-10-18 15:22:00)

[PenguinPower]

I can't I.D. third scum for my scum team and want to hear some interactions people may have caught between people.

Dude...you're making two levels of pre-associative flips? Wow...this is going to be lulzworthy at the end.

I thought I was bad town?

You sound like you trust my opinion.

Well, I had put you as regular/almost insightful town until the above.

[PenguinPower]

Seriously. LUV and Slandaar have done f all this game. Can we get some pressure or replace on them?

[PenguinPower]

PP seems like scum. His push against you has been very bad looking.

What push?

[PenguinPower]

Also, you said I was town before. I'm hurt.

[podoboq]

Seriously. LUV and Slandaar have done f all this game. Can we get some pressure or replace on them?

Slandaar is being replaced. We have a replacement lined up, and I've just been waiting for them to respond to their PM.

[Gamma Emerald]

You trying to call his methodology bad. Also, as Grendel mentioned, you've seemed to be trying to remain in popular opinion.
Now that we have a VC:
VOTE: PenguinPower
And I didn't say you were town, that statement before was sarcastic. I had already been townleaning Implosion. Not the same case with you.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I should probably seriously pay attention to this game now. Falling quite behind.

I am pretty wary of Penguin, especially after how hypocritical he's been about Grendal's RQS. That alone though isn't a strong enough for me to jump on this wagon although I agree with a lot of what Diefire presented.

I don't think that fake hammer was set up honestly, it seems like Shadow honestly forgot and when realizing he did, he took it upon himself to say that he was setting it up. I also didn't think there was nothing to learn about the hammer or analyze it other than Maria's reaction. Which seems NAI to me.

I have a couple of town reads and a few nulls.

[PenguinPower]

His methodology is bad. Worse now that I know he's trying to form the entire scum team D1. If you're going to lynch me for that, let's quick lynch it and get it over with.

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Hi LUV.

[PenguinPower]

I had already been townleaning Implosion. Not the same case with you.

This is lulz. Further define your implosion read.

[PenguinPower]

you've seemed to be trying to remain in popular opinion.

Wait...wut? When have I been in popular opinion...at all?

[Gamma Emerald]

you've seemed to be trying to remain in popular opinion.

Wait...wut? When have I been in popular opinion...at all?

You only did RQS after others had done it, after complaining about it.

[Gamma Emerald]

I had already been townleaning Implosion. Not the same case with you.

This is lulz. Further define your implosion read.

I only really scumread him for deciding to not read the post that could change his read. It seemed like he just wanted the tunnel the guy.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

His methodology is bad. Worse now that I know he's trying to form the entire scum team D1. If you're going to lynch me for that, let's quick lynch it and get it over with.

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Hi LUV.

Hey bud.