Mini 530: Guitar Hero Mafia: It's Finally Over

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one more time

Original Roll String: 1d12

1 12-Sided Dice: (8) = 8

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Vote:hasdgfas

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Vote DeliciousGoldfish

for no apparent reason.

I think there may be an apparent reason, and I think you know what it is.

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Hahah, a was kidding, a quick cross search of your screen names gave me a pretty good reason...

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That was confusing, let me EBWOP...

I was kidding, but a quick cross search of your screen names gave me a pretty good reason...

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...hahaha, that's rather clever. I should use that some time.

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Oh no, not again.

They say that if someone understood what the petunia meant by that, thier understanding of the universe would be greatly improved.

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EBWOP: It looks cooler if you squint.

oh wow, it does.

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Haschel, did you get that off Gamefaqs.com?

Yeah. I mean, if you ever find yourself saying "I wish I had some ASCII Art of this video game," gamefaqs is a goldmine.

Remember to cite your sourced, cause you made it sound like you did it.

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Oh, here we go again..

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Shiny...~

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I find this all rather silly, if entertaining.

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I agree. I missed it, but Disisted's post was an unne3dedL-2 vote

Vote:d3sisted

For doing something either stupid or scummy.

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I would like to know why Omega is silent, yes. However, it's a policy of mine that L-2 is never to be reached in a pressure vote. In a big game, L-3. You stepped over that line, and I voted you.

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Unvote

for same reason.

I had thought that it was 6 to lynch for some reason. I don't suppose I'll be able to get off with a simple

Mea culpa?

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EBWOP

On second thought

Revote

because D3sisted had no trouble doing what he thought was a L-2 for a pressure vote, which still bugs me regardless of what actually happened.

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That's one of the reasons.

I may have dropped my vote, if not for the flip, and for the fact that you have no trouble putting a guy into a dangerous position based on (literally, considering he wasn't talking) nothing.

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That's one of the reasons.

I may have dropped my vote, if not for the flip, and for the fact that you have no trouble putting a guy into a dangerous position based on (literally, considering he wasn't talking) nothing.

Also, you failed to address the issue at hand in that post, a major red flag for me.

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woah, I havn't posted in a week. Sorry bout that.

Still, L-2 for pressure is still dangerous to me. Though it may not have happened,his attitude about it bothers me. It doesn't really come off as scummy, though, but it may be indicative of someone trying to justify a quick build-up. Of course, if it was a calculated measure, he wouldn't have claimed it was a L-2 after I thought it was, so..I'm at a loss. The vote stays, for now, but it'll go off if the situation changes.

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I've yet to see the reasoning that lead D3sisted from thinking people were jumping on him too fast, to be willing to put him at L-2, which is pretty serious for pressure. Especcially if no one notices.

What also irks me is that, even though this was not the case, he still thought it was. I wonder why...I would just like an answer to this question.

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*eye roll* I know you didn't actually vote L-2. I've been irked by your willingness to do so in that situation. I've said that for the past 3 pages!

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EBWOP: Oh, ok, I see what happened. I skipped the post where he unvote/votes on my first read through.

Out of curiosity, why, after your reason for voting for me is debunked, did you not unvote?

I'm not upset, but it's a question to ask, and conversation can't hurt.

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No suspicions right now. You're just a placeholder. A zero, if you will.

Fair enough.

HC: wait, when did you comment on him?

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That is odd, CO. That is for sure....I want to see what he says to it before I make any decision on way or another.

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That's true...

And CO, I'm still waiting for your comment.

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Oh, wait, I meant Natude...Sorry. Nevermind.

I agree with Has. Find something to say.

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I would rather Lynch D3sisted if I had to choose...but Natude is annoying me. 2 votes should be enough for a little pressure.

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I need to post, but I have really nothing to say. Still waiting for Perfect's comments, but he seems to have vanished.

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I agree with Has. We need a deadline. This is one of the slowest day ones I've ever seen..

That said, I like Natudude's post. It seems very well thought out. It gave suspicions without real finger pointing.

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Well we're mod abandoned. How bout the scum claim, and we all have a good laugh and a few beers over this, what do you say?

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What's the number needed to lynch? 6 or 7?

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Alright. I don't have the time to dig through this topic and check her work at the moment, but I like SM's post, about Disist3d in poarticular, enough to

Unvote

for now. However, I've still got my eye on you, SM. You're not out of the woods about his behavior yet.

Also, I really dislike Has' fishing. Refusing to claim is not scum, and I don't think SM is in really hot water right now.

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Eh, I'm not sure about this right now, but I'll give a pressure/prod

Vote:DG

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I was just killed off in one of my games, , and I've got very little time left to live in another, soI'm starting to feel a little ancy about moving this one forward.

Could we please get a deadline?

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I won't hold it against you, Haschel. This is an emergency.

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I'll hold that against you, however. <.<;

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This might sound really scummy, but Natude said pretty much what I was thinking. HC's points made sense, and do seem to make DG and SM look like they are distancing from each other. However, SMs defense, with the exception of the OMGUS vote (which could also be seen as an excuse to get her vote off of DG), is pretty reasonable. Therefore, I think that we should test this theory by lynching DG, who is already a plausible scum, and re-evaluating SM after that.

Since most of HC's logic about SM is based on the assumption that DG is scum (not counting D3 being a dick) it seems silly to lynch her today. So, I will confirm my vote on DG with intent to lynch, and hope the bandwagon grows.

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um, Mod, I voted DG on the last page. That means she has 7 votes. That's a lynch

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You're right, Has. 303 is a terrible post, (though an explanation on your part would be helpful) however...Di3sted's posts, combined with a really strong distancing connection between SM and DG make me really sure SM is the lynch for today.

Vote:SeraphicMirth

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He's a dick? It's unusual for anyone to claim Jester.

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Has, I think Gorrad defended his point nicely, as I can't see where he said "I think there is a Jester in this game" and it looks to me like his argument was that only a scum would claim to be a Jester, which, while I disagree, Isn't really a scum tell off of him. the GJ is, but you can't base a case off of it.

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Ok, don't kick me. I'm in NYC for a week. almost no internet. Posting will resume on Saturday night/Sunday.

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Gorrad made a really bad play with those past couple posts, and I agree that everyone who's fully pushed her case, Haschel and Gorrad particularly (has is a bit more free in that regard due to spreading himself out really well, and being all around a good scum hunter, and I refuse to judge myself) need to be looked at if she turns up Town.

However, I'm showing tunnel vision today, because I cannot be happy unless she's dead, because of DG coming up scum. 3 reasons why I think this game cannot progress until SM has been confirmed.

1. Disisted's Horrid play.

2. SM's voting pattern with DG, which is clearly a distance and retreat with DG.

3. Doing a WIFOM, even though it's clear she should have known it was. Makes me think she wanted to see if she could get away with it.


I'm showing tunnel vision because my heart is telling me SM isn't scummy, because I like her as a player, and think she personally hasn't done that much that was so scummy, but her partners and replacement have created such a pattern, that my head is certain that she's scum. I want to give it a shot.

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Well, from my count, there are only two active players around to drop the hammer...the two on gorrad.

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Conversation seems to be on the low, so I thought I'd help stir things up a bit with a side bar. I looked over the last day, and found something that bugged me a bit, but got pushed aside for the SM BW (which I still think should be finished off as soon as possible) but what do we make of the 2 kills last night. Why two, and why them? Personally, I think Natude was the Mafia kill-target, due to him being a pretty active townie in high regard, but what about the other guy? Vig, SK, or something else, and why him?

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Oh, I see why It wasn't a lynch. Haschel, on the previous page you unvoted and voted SM, yet you were ALREADY voting SM.

Which means...we still need one more vote.

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So, your standing by your claim of vanilla? Interesting...I still stand by the claim that your actions were scummy.

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Sm, correct me if I'm misunderstanding you, but if your saying I voted you because of the ones you found suspicious, I didn't. That had nothing to do with it, I never addressed it, and I don't even know off hand who they were.

You had a pattern (and you distanced yourself a bit from DG as well, frankly) and it was strong enough to lynch you.

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No, but that's the thing. I tend to want (as opposed to want to tend..) to believe you, but I can't because of those two things.

The big distancing thing for me isyou vote her pretty much first thing yesterday, then you drop it as her BW progresses, and then as soon as your challenged about it, you put it back on. In what world is that not scummy, particularly when it was done to a sum.

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Anyone else wish to chime in?

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Try not to miss the obvious, Chaos.

Has, can you explain the flavor for your power? And for that matter, why you lied in your first post about the day extension?

Gorrad, I think I know which role you are now, but I might be wrong. Don't tell me what it is, please, but it will matter if a case on you biulds today, I believe.

I still say the case against SM was strong, and it's a shame we were wrong about her, so now let's reevaluate the situation at hand. Major pings for me right now are Gorrad and chaos, though I have my doubts about Has' claim, for the moment.

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oh. Woops. God damn your Nibbler Avatars.

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Gorrad...I might believe your claim, but the fact is...what the hell would you claim such a strong power role, especially considering you might be the only doc, when you've had no calls to claim and your still only pinging. VERY premature. And suspicious considering you just breadcrumbed it a second a go. A lot of possibilities, but no proof.

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Honestly, I don't think he's lying. For one thing, even if he is scum, he's running a major risk by saying this when we had two kills last night, and even if he is scum, he runs the risk of attracting attention from whoever did the other kill. And frankly, that's a hella complicated role for an on the fly roleclaim. I could see him getting the star power fake claim, but that's a rough role. Of course, Maybe Gorrad is just a clever player, and he could have come up with it for WIFOM reasons.

In short, I can't say for sure, but I'm leaning towards believing him. That said,

Vote:SweatpantsNinja

For his rather bad WIFOM regarding Gorrad, setting the doc up potentially for a D3 lynch, which I think is worth a second vote. I'm not attached to it, though.

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Has, you said you were going to continue your thoughts on everyone involved. I tend to agree with you, but I'd like to ask some questions that should wait until I have a clearer Idea of where you stand in this game.

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Wait, not Has. HC.

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DG pushed you to believing she was Town? If anything, it should have done the exact oposite. The cornerstone of my case on her was her distancing with DG.

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How exactly does your power work, anyways?

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And how does someone NOT claiming confirm you?

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So does the person become alerted to the motivation?

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Ok, let me settle this right now.

Mod: IF there is, and feel free to make it up on the fly if there is not, but if there is a Motivator role, would we be made aware we had it. At the very least, tell us if you can't answer

You can motivate someone. Anyone. even if it hits a scum, then we'll have a solid lead when (if) you turn up truthful.

At the very least, there's no reason to kill him today, I feel. If anyone sees a problem with this, feel free.

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Hc, fair enough, but that's no reason not to do it. If it does happen, it will still look pretty bad for him, and if it doesn't, well, there you go.

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Vote Count

Gorrad

(1):

Haschel cedricson

Haschel Cedricson

(2):

Gorrad, TheSweatPantsNinja

TheSweatpantsNinja

(1):

ChaosOmega

Not voting (4): Thanatos, MafiaSSK, UROE, hasdgfas

Please also give it up for MafiaSSK who is replacing Dark Ermac.

To whoever asked, this is a

closed

setup.

Mod: So you can't even answer a hypothetical yes/no?

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Waiting on Unofficial. Just read and get it over with.

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V/LA till April 8

Wait, no, seriously?

unvote, Vote:UROE

As tempting as that is, I'm going to assume your kidding.

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I'm against an SSK lynch for one simple reason: Out of Gorrad, TSPN, ChaosOmega, Thanatos, hasghfas, and myself, at least one person is Mafia and

another person is an SK.

I know it's not me, and hasghfas looks pretty clear, so that leaves four people who are statistically better lynches today regardless of play. Unless Alabaska or SSK do something amazingly dumb, I don't think either of them is a good lynch today.

Found him.

How the heck did you figure out who the SK is?

Keep in mind that dicking around with the town is a capital offense.

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I Made it to the beginning of page 13 tonight, so ive only seen the first three kills.

From those pages I think that there is either a sk or vig, im leaning towards sk though since it was 2 towns who were killed that night, but then again, it could have just been an accident. I'll have a better analysis after reading the second half of the game, probly tomorrow or tuesday.

Killing Silver pheonix...it really could have gone either way. Why kill a lurker who doesn't post? Well, maybe he noticed something on him, or just wanted to kill someone.

Actually, thinking about how this game is going, if I was an SK or a Vig who didn't have someone who he wanted to kill, I would take the time to kill someone who wasn't helping the town or the game by being AWOL in a game with so many lurkers.

For HC to assume there is one is suspicious.

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I'm sorry. Life has been...yeah, I apologize.

Nothing to say to Has' vote. I overreacted, largely because I still don't completely trust Has, and he had a perfectly valid, if flawed reason for his action, that I missed.

I'm strongly against voting off a player who has only been in this game for 4 pages. Give him, and us for that matter, a little time to figure out each other. I'm probably going to vote for TSPN, but give me a little time to review the case on him, if you don't mind.