Dragon Age Mafia [Game Over]

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Lol at TBB voting me right out of the gate.

There was no activity from any of the heads of TBB in the antiva PT. I asked who was the warden for the night, they didn't say. My slot had stopped voting for warden since day 5 or something so I'm assuming they didn't vote last day as well.

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VOTE: TBB

Even if this is ob scum we shouldn't hammer very early. In case we have 5 scum we need to discuss things.

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@vedith and IRA you should vote me for warden tonight.

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Not hammering yet. Expect more from Foxbeebird replacement.

If there is another scum, it is most likely between you and Ira, Math is town. Random's play doesn't make sense as scum and I'm pretty sure Vedith is town by reading interactions between him and dwlee in the Antiva PT. Though they could have planned that so cautious on that read.

Fun fact - Dwlee said he was town reading my slot in the PT, granted that was probably two days ago. But nothing really has changed to make him vote us today. This slot deserves death.

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Why are we waiting? With this setup are we really expecting 2 scum to still be alive?

4 in 20 would be 20% compared to 5 in 20 which would be 25% which I think is more likely.

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@vedith and IRA you should vote me for warden tonight.

I hope you guys did this already.

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Didn't get you.

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because I'm conftown meh

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I don't want possible scum! Ira to be the warden tonight.
I motivated Math night 2, which is why I'm town, is that difficult to see?

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Let's finish this off then

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@shadow agreed scum is flailing.

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The TBB flail is hilarious.

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Math why the hell are you being kept alive after being almost conf town?

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I voted Vedith for warden and he obviously had one shot left. If I was scum I'd never vote him to be the Warden in the first place.

If vedith is telling the truth, it is Ira / math .

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I can understand why you weren't killed last to last night, it was to mislynch TBB.
I dont understand why he was killed over you.
PV couldn't use his abilities at night, could he?

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I'll ask FA who my slot voted warden but they stopped voting after a point so dunno.
Like I said I voted Vedith yesterday because he had a tracker shot left.
I was warden night 2 and night 4,
Night 2 motivated math, night 4 no action. Which is why I wanted to be warden again to motivate Math.
But Vedith didn't vote me yesterday only IRA did it seems.

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Vedith had already claimed tracker in the thread.

Wait that isn't how motivator works ?
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Motivator

I didn't trust anyone else with it so

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What of mine doesn't match?
I know that you only get an extra shot on the next night, but I have one shot left, might as well use it, no?

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Also yeah, inclined to vote Vedith after that.

Also ira/vedith both cannot be scum together cause both are trackers.

So it is either ira + random, vedith + random

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Also I cannot be scum with Math because we could have hammered Vedith.
Just FTR

Logic dictates we should lynch Random but not sure, I'd like people to weigh in on this.

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It is mostly ira + random.
I feel Ira would have taken more initiative in wanting to be the warden. Scum trackers don't have any real motivation in using their NA.

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??? Random hasn't posted. We don't know how many scum are left and two people are saying yeah let's lynch Vedith but not lynch Vedith.

Like wth?

If there are 2 scum we have to lynch random today, because from my POV he HAS to be scum. I know I'm town, you were redirected to scum. You are heavily unlikely to be scum. Vedith and Ira cannot be scum together because they both are trackers. So random has to be scum. There is not a single scenario where he cannot be scum.

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VOTE: random

I hate lurksacks

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I'll UNVOTE:

but what part are you not agreeing on?

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Reads:

Town-aligned: Shiro, Foxbeebirdboy, Motoko and Scully
Slightly town-aligned: shaddowez, randomidget, Frizzy Cola, DrippingGoofball
Null-aligned:

SirCakez, 100 Percent Ego

, Vedith, Yume
Slightly scum-aligned: Bieber Brothers,
Scum-aligned: Radical Rat, PeregrineV, Dunnstral

I removed Luna Fox because I am not sure. They should not be lynched yet though.

Was doing an ISO dip, when I saw this. From my experience, scum place most of their buddies in the null tier, so that they don't have to explain their reads on them.

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Also lol, Ira was first on the wagon on all the scum that have been lynched, the only (false) exception being the 100% wagon, he jumped off it at the last moment when Nero started troll posting.

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@Vedith what is your opinion on the points I have made ?

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I can hear people screaming for the dead thread to lynch ob scum Random.

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@Math,
You need to know that, my action on night 2 was discussed in the antiva PT. So everyone in there knew that I motivated you for n3.
But you weren't killed, FC was killed. Either they were worried about FC blocking the kill or Luna's reads were way off.
That is if either Vedith or Ira are scum ^^
There is a good chance Random is the last scum.

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I know because you tracked him. Unless they have a ninja modifier.
Or it is Ira + random

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VOTE: Random

I can't see myself voting anyone else tbh
This has to be scum

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Risk=Reward
Ira must have thought you wouldn't track her knowing that you know that he knows you are the warden.

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I mean
I know I'm town and Math is very close to conf town.
I have a bigger town read on Vedith than the other two. And Vedith + Ira scum team cannot be a thing so.
Random has to be scum.
Can't make it more easy for you guys.

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Risk=Reward
Ira must have thought you wouldn't track her knowing that you know that he knows you are the warden.

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I wasn't forced, FBB asked the others to make them the warden. The part which was discussed was who should be motivated because that person needed to be the warden on the next night.

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I agree with iraon. It seems like Shadow is trying to set up mislynches that he can push when I flip town.

(Lurk, lurk, lurk )(my buddy threw shade on Shadow, let me add to that)

You are not going to flip town.

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Ira and Random are not even bothering to respond to my allegation because they literally have no answers.

From Random's POV, he should also know that Ira + Vedith can't be a scum team and that Math is town(pretty much) so if he really WAS town he would have voted me right off the bat.

Lack of quickhammer also suggests Random is scum.

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What accusation?

You are very loud and jumping.

You know, randomidget is partially cleared twice over. And (unless he is scum-aligned with Vedith), I don't think the other partner would make the kill twice in a row. If there was only one scum-aligned player, he is 100% clear anyway...

I think your reads are overstated and scum-aligned.

The lack of quickhammer suggests either you or randomidget are scum-aligned, don't be dishonest about perspective...

Seriously?
You ask what accusation!
Explain me how your play makes sense as town. Explain the town motivation in not taking any initiative at all in finding scum by using your tracker.

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What accusation?

You are very loud and jumping.

You know, randomidget is partially cleared twice over. And (unless he is scum-aligned with Vedith), I don't think the other partner would make the kill twice in a row. If there was only one scum-aligned player, he is 100% clear anyway...

I think your reads are overstated and scum-aligned.

The lack of quickhammer suggests either you or randomidget are scum-aligned, don't be dishonest about perspective...

Why can't he have a ninja modifier ?

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Okay, you're scum-aligned then.

Brilliant, how about you and Random vote me so that we can town clear Math and Vedith?

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If Vedith was scum, what is stopping him from faking a guilty on someone and winning this lylo? He isn't scum.
This is obviously considering 5 scum.

25% is more balanced than 20%. Basic mafia logic

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It's Shadow not sonic.

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Do you think Math is scum?

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I'm not hammering, because I am town-aligned.

I think this is a terrible idea to vote the partially cleared player and Vedith will just quickhammer...

Lol more like you don't wanna hammer your buddy. You will get no friggin town cred.

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So one or both of Random or Shadow step are scum at this point.

My guess is Random + iroanavp here.

I am pretty much cleared of any team in the world. So hooray.

The other possibility I see is random and Shadowstep but it that will sort itself out.

I think what the lack of posting declares is random is scum. Which makes step of those combos likely town.

VOTE: Randommidget

If random is town we have lost because random isn't posting anyway.

Random isn't partially cleared or whatever. I haven't exactly read that part of the day but FC coerced Random to motivate her more than anything. If Random had said no, it would have been a death wish. He didn't have an option .

Also random + Shadow can't be a team cause we both are motivators.
If Vedith was scum he could have just faked a guilty, use Occam's razor here.

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this is a lie. Shadow is making stuff up.

I was talking about day 2.

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So no hammer from Vedith, confirms that Vedith+random cannot be the scum team. If math was scum she would have hammered me ages ago.

VOTE: Iraonavp

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If I am last scum why am I making Vedith the warden so that he can either town clear people or get a guilty on me?
Also why would I kill my scum read PV if I was scum?

Ira ^

@Vedith, Math please vote here.

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Yeah because I wanted to motivate Mathblade, what is your point ?
And if I didn't want you to become warden I could have not voted at all.

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Yeah because I wanted to motivate Mathblade, what is your point ?
And if I didn't want you to become warden I could have not voted at all.

Motivate him how? He used both shots up already.
I also don't know who voted me, I didn't vote so it only took 1 vote on me to make me Warden.

Motivation gives an extra shot, it doesn't matter if the target has 100 shots left or 0 shots left. Seriously brush up on your mafia basics. You are terrible.
Ira has already said he voted me for warden yesterday, where the hell is your brain?

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Vedith had already claimed tracker in the thread.

Wait that isn't how motivator works ?
http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Motivator

I didn't trust anyone else with it so

@vedith ^

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Vedith you wanna hammer Ira for the win or not?

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If I am last scum why am I making Vedith the warden so that he can either town clear people or get a guilty on me?
Also why would I kill my scum read PV if I was scum?

Shut up you stupid conf biased fuck

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(jeopardy music)

Double Jeopardy for 200 Alex Trebec: what will Vedith do?

I've updated my will to make sure Ira doesn't survive as last scum.

Don't worry we got this.

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If it's random+Ira then holy hell.
Vedith's gonna get some serious shit

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If you hammer me and random + IRA is the scum team. We lose. That's what I was talking about.
Anyway mathematically the correct lynch is IRA, Vedith and Math cannot be in scum teams.

So you don't need to delay the hammer.

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Bastard.
Should have known it.
It's Vedith.
When he didn't vote me for warden to motivate warden I should have known it.
Town! Vedith doesn't lie about his result. So random is cleared and this is a very easy lylo for me.
Random you need to use your brain here. Look at facts.
Vedith brought us both to lylo to fight each other so that he can win.

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VOTE: Vedith

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Vedith brought us both to lylo to fight each other so that he can win.

Random is confirmed town!

Which is exactly why I would not have bought him to lylo with me plus he was scum reading me.
It is clear that you want him to mislynch me which is why you killed Math.

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When he didn't vote me for warden to motivate warden I should have known it.

I would have lynched you over Ira if I didn't want you to be warden (since it was my idea to make you warden yesterday)

Me being warden was useless last night as Math only gets an extra shot the night after that. Try to play dumb all you want.

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Me being warden was useless last night as Math only gets an extra shot the night after that. Try to play dumb all you want.

Well as only 1 scum left, how would you motivate and make the kill?

???
It doesn't matter at all. Math wouldn't have known whether I motivated her or not till night 10. Math was town reading me. Even said it in the will. I wouldn't have killed her if scum.
Leaving random as conf town alive in lylo. Hell no

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Vedith's whole hesitancy to provide proper reads when asked by Math and so much hesistance over hammering. You would obviously hammer IRA over me anyday. I was town reading you. She was scum reading you.

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So one or both of Random or Shadow step are scum at this point.

My guess is Random + iroanavp here.

I am pretty much cleared of any team in the world. So hooray.

The other possibility I see is random and Shadowstep but it that will sort itself out.

I think what the lack of posting declares is random is scum. Which makes step of those combos likely town.

VOTE: Randommidget

If random is town we have lost because random isn't posting anyway.

Random isn't partially cleared or whatever. I haven't exactly read that part of the day but FC coerced Random to motivate her more than anything. If Random had said no, it would have been a death wish. He didn't have an option .

Also random + Shadow can't be a team cause we both are motivators.
If Vedith was scum he could have just faked a guilty, use Occam's razor here.

this is a lie. Shadow is making stuff up.
I literally said day 1 "make me warden and FC tomorrow and I will help them" whilst FC is obvtowning. No one knew i was a motivator till day 2.
VOTE: Shadowstep
If you are town you deserve to lose for that lie
Math I was incredibly busy for a few days and didn't get a chance to post a V/LA. I was not lurking. Meanwhile Shadow is literally telling lies to try and make me seems scum. Oh btw nice attempt at giving yourself an out there.

I'm sorry about this Random. Like I earlier said I didn't read day 1. I was referring to day 2. When I checked your iso to confirm that it was the whole reason I moved my vote to IRA.

I just want you to read this and tell me what conclusions you come to

1. Vedith did not vote me for warden when I specifically said why. It was because I wanted to motivate Math. He didn't vote me.

2. I voted Vedith for warden that night because I was town reading him. I knew he was tracker. As last scum that is wayyy to much trouble. I could have easily been tracked making the kill.

3. You were scum reading me yesterday and you are conf town today. Math was town reading me.
If I was scum I would have killed you.

There is no reason why I wouldnt not kill you as scum.

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Vedith's whole hesitancy to provide proper reads when asked by Math and so much hesistance over hammering. You would obviously hammer IRA over me anyday. I was town reading you. She was scum reading you.

I was at work, how was that hesitating?
The only reason I voted Ira over you is because you gave the impression you could motivate someone.

That's bullshit, caught lying again. You very well knew that you gain an extra shot on the next night.

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???
It doesn't matter at all. Math wouldn't have known whether I motivated her or not till night 10. Math was town reading me. Even said it in the will. I wouldn't have killed her if scum.
Leaving random as conf town alive in lylo. Hell no

Well you originally implied that your motivate would be more beneficial, and when I said you give it to Math you did not object or advise.
So what happened to the Math scum? The way you were posting if I was scum it would have been an instant lynch on him.

Yeah which is exactly why I wouldn't have killed her if I was scum you idiot.
If you had killed random and bought me and Math to lylo you probably you would have won, because I was conf biased against Math. But thank you for the easy lylo.
Also whatever I said in Antiva PT is literally your word against mine. If I was scum I could had easily denied all that and accused you of making shit up.
But no I'm town and I was wrong about Math being scum. Shit happens.

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I said good luck because I thought I was going to get killed. I made that obvious. Nicely left that out didn't you.

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You also made it clear that you voted me... You did it for town credit.

Lol yeah, I am last scum I am giving you an opportunity to track me making the kill last night so I can have town cred during next day? That is a brilliant plan!
Let's say I did it for town cred. I would have taken the safe route and killed you since you were the biggest thread to me.
But I couldn't I can't cause I'm not scum.

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I said good luck because I thought I was going to get killed. I made that obvious. Nicely left that out didn't you.

How did you make that clear?
You go from stop replying to me when I explain why Math is town to saying "Good luck".
You also say that killing Rando was the obvious choice here but thought you would be killed?

You just keep contradicting yourself.

Nice misrep scum.
I said random would have been the perfect kill if I WAS scum.

And I didn't stop replying. It was you who stopped. I asked you what kind of scum leaves a strong player like Math who is conf town alive.

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Lol yeah, I am last scum I am giving you an opportunity to track me making the kill last night so I can have town cred during next day? That is a brilliant plan!
Let's say I did it for town cred. I would have taken the safe route and killed you since you were the biggest thread to me.
But I couldn't I can't cause I'm not scum.

I had been saying your slot was town from your other body and even in the PT a lot, you had a lot less to worry about. You are making it seem that I had you as scum and you made me warden.
And not you wouldn't kill me as then you and Ira would have been lynched for being in the faction. Everyone was saying that scum was there, so killing inside meant you would lose.
Keep trying though, you are obvious scum here.

I don't need town you to clear more townies by using your track plus taking the unnecessary risk of you tracking me. Keep trying your argument is invalid.

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Posting smilies to fake town confidence isn't gonna help you. Grow up

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Nice misrep scum.
I said random would have been the perfect kill if I WAS scum.

And I didn't stop replying. It was you who stopped. I asked you what kind of scum leaves a strong player like Math who is conf town alive.

So you were the perfect kill if me or Math were scum?

That's false. You asked that before my last 2 posts. I answered that and made it clear you were scum. As soon as I said why Math was town you stopped posting.

If math was scum I was the kill because I had already suspicious of her being scum because she hadn't gotten killed. I made it evident in the thread.

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I don't need town you to clear more townies by using your track plus taking the unnecessary risk of you tracking me. Keep trying your argument is invalid.

You were forced, you couldn't self vote and voting Ira over me would have made you scum.
I like the effort though, Shadow.

Haha what? Another lie.
Show me where I was forced?
I didn't need to vote anyone at all.
I had asked both you and IRA to vote me and it was decided that I had I be made warden. But you didn't vote me.
Basically a scum claim.

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If math was scum I was the kill because I had already suspicious of her being scum because she hadn't gotten killed. I made it evident in the thread.

I made it clear Math was town and you were scum (even if Ira wasn't) in both game and PT.
So tell me again why scum Math would kill you over Random?

Because I was the only one scum reading her? On a scale of 1-10 how daft are you? About a thousand atleast.
No its not that. You are scum.

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Night 1 - Shiro
Night 2 - No vote as we agreed for me to be it. I tracked Luna to Dunn and Shiro. Shiro was known as role so luna would never check as scum.
Night 3 - FFB (May be swapped with 4)
Night 4 - Shiro (May be swapped with 3)
Night 5 - Ira
Night 6 - FFB
Night 7 - Ira
Night 8 - No one

Random don't ignore this scum slip. Like please I beg of you.

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I'll just wait for Random to hammer you.
You're proven scum from here.

Lovely. After getting caught in a lie. You can't show me because I was never forced.
Nice try

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So one or both of Random or Shadow step are scum at this point.

My guess is Random + iroanavp here.

I am pretty much cleared of any team in the world. So hooray.

The other possibility I see is random and Shadowstep but it that will sort itself out.

I think what the lack of posting declares is random is scum. Which makes step of those combos likely town.

VOTE: Randommidget

If random is town we have lost because random isn't posting anyway.

Random isn't partially cleared or whatever. I haven't exactly read that part of the day but FC coerced Random to motivate her more than anything. If Random had said no, it would have been a death wish. He didn't have an option .

Also random + Shadow can't be a team cause we both are motivators.
If Vedith was scum he could have just faked a guilty, use Occam's razor here.

this is a lie. Shadow is making stuff up.
I literally said day 1 "make me warden and FC tomorrow and I will help them" whilst FC is obvtowning. No one knew i was a motivator till day 2.
VOTE: Shadowstep
If you are town you deserve to lose for that lie
Math I was incredibly busy for a few days and didn't get a chance to post a V/LA. I was not lurking. Meanwhile Shadow is literally telling lies to try and make me seems scum. Oh btw nice attempt at giving yourself an out there.

I'm sorry about this Random. Like I earlier said I didn't read day 1. I was referring to day 2. When I checked your iso to confirm that it was the whole reason I moved my vote to IRA.

I just want you to read this and tell me what conclusions you come to

1. Vedith did not vote me for warden when I specifically said why. It was because I wanted to motivate Math. He didn't vote me.

2. I voted Vedith for warden that night because I was town reading him. I knew he was tracker. As last scum that is wayyy to much trouble. I could have easily been tracked making the kill.

3. You were scum reading me yesterday and you are conf town today. Math was town reading me.
If I was scum I would have killed you.

There is no reason why I wouldnt not kill you as scum.

Random please read, this is like the most important thing.

Also don't forget that I motivated a town cop day 2. If I was scum that would be really really terrible. Any other PR like JK or RB is still more damning. But a town cop? That would have been a death sentence to me and my scum team man.

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Also Random please don't hammer without having a a proper discussion with me.

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Nice job incriminating yourself. After shouting everywhere how TBB was obvious scum you didn't vote them.
Scum staying off town wagons. Nice.

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At it is well known that my previous slot stopped bothering with this game after day 5 or something so nice desperate flailing .

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Bump

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Lol so much scrapping the barrel. Jesus

@mod, can Mafia perform the kill and night action at the same time ?

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Also I was going by what is normally done by in the maf wiki, this game different rules though meh.
Nice try Vedith.
While you're at it wanna explain why I voluntarily motivated a town cop?

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???
It doesn't matter at all. Math wouldn't have known whether I motivated her or not till night 10.

I can confirm he did double me up tho, and no, dont ask me to paraphrase.

Here you go Random.
Shadow lying and shows that Math would have been told. He had to kill Math last night or be lynched.

Wait, best part is there was no warden last night. Because when there are only two people left in a nation there can be no warden.
Nice try scum

Random seriously if you vote me over Vedith after him lying about voting me as warden then idk what can convince you that he is scum.

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I was never warden before, I mean me as in not my slot, as a replacement. So I didn't know what the process was cause I never got a PM. I asked the mod who confirmed that there could be no warden last night. XD

Lynch Vedith for the town win. Come on Random!

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What lie?
What panic?
You never voted me, I could never be the warden in the first place.

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I was never warden before, I mean me as in not my slot, as a replacement. So I didn't know what the process was cause I never got a PM. I asked the mod who confirmed that there could be no warden last night. XD

Lynch Vedith for the town win. Come on Random!

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There can't be a warden when there are only two people left in a nation. That's what happened with every other nation.

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I don't need town you to clear more townies by using your track plus taking the unnecessary risk of you tracking me. Keep trying your argument is invalid.

You were forced, you couldn't self vote and voting Ira over me would have made you scum.
I like the effort though, Shadow.

Haha what? Another lie.
Show me where I was forced?
I didn't need to vote anyone at all.
I had asked both you and IRA to vote me and it was decided that I had I be made warden. But you didn't vote me.
Basically a scum claim.

Keep bringing up this bs, when you can't even answer this.

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Because if you didn't vote me it would be suspicious lol xD

I've already proven this to be BS. I didn't need to vote anyone.

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???
It doesn't matter at all. Math wouldn't have known whether I motivated her or not till night 10.

I can confirm he did double me up tho, and no, dont ask me to paraphrase.

Here you go Random.
Shadow lying and shows that Math would have been told. He had to kill Math last night or be lynched.

@mod, can Mafia perform the kill and night action at the same time ?

Yes. Each player may cast all the abilities they can at the same phase.

SUCK IT SCUM

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Town cred for encase you wasn't warden.
Face it you've been caught out enough Shadow

All your arguments are have been proven BS, keep posting lame emojis. That's the best you can do.

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I don't need town you to clear more townies by using your track plus taking the unnecessary risk of you tracking me. Keep trying your argument is invalid.

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Hi! I can confirm that I'm town. I don't know if I'll be able to read over two-hundred pages and I've no idea what made me want to replace in but it was a lazy Saturday afternoon, I was bored, browsed the replacement requests and wanted to do something crazy.

Going to try my best to actually solve this and get it right.

So Vedith, why should I be voting Shadow?

BV I just iso me and read my day 10 posts. It should be obvious why Vedith is scum. He will come up with all kinds of nonsense to incriminate me. Don't bother reading all that bs.

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See, let me make this easy for you. My role is a two shot motivator and I motivated a confirmed town cop voluntarily so that they can have two investigations in one day.
Do you think I would do that as scum?
Scum don't have any blocking role or godfather to counter the cop so it would be a death wish to do it as scum.

[Shadow_step]

I'll read day ten since you guys are insisting on it. But I'm more interested in how you played when other scum were still alive and getting wagoned so I'm trying to look for critical points where known scum were wagoned (Radical Rat on day one is where I'm currently at).

Besides that, does anyone have a complete list of night actions? Who was elected warden each night from each nation and how they used their role and their results? Before I look through the day game, I want to see if there are any inconsistencies wrt the night actions.

I also want to hear your subjective opinions on why each of the scum were lynched and how influential you thought you were in those lynches. Were they lynched because of results or because someone had a scumread and pushed hard on it for instance?

Read the mechanics that are different in this game. There is a warden mechanic. You'll understand what I'm saying after you read that.

What happened on day 8 was I asked Ira and Vedith to vote me for warden because I wanted to motivate the cop again. Ira voted me and Vedith did not vote me because obviously he was scared about cop getting a guilty on him. Vedith is a tracker. I voted him for warden that night incase I didn't get selected for warden.
See at that point in the game. At night 8 there were 6 people in the game and only 1 scum remaining. I as scum making Vedith the warden so he can use his tracker is another death wish. You can imagine he can could gacw tracked me doing the kill or he town clears people who did not move at night.

So basically it should be obvious by my night actions that I am pro town. If you need anything more you can ask me.

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Yes the cop got two results. Mathblade's slot yes. That was Luna fox at that time. Mathblade replaced into that slot.

Warden voting happens during the day. Antiva nation people have to PM the mod who they want to vote.
If you are chosen to be the warden you get a pm from the mod stating so.
Motivation takes place on the next night. So if I motivate someone on night 2 they get am extra shot on night 3. Which is why my slot motuvated Luna/Math and they were the warden on night 3.

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This game has two of every roles.
Two cops. Two jailkeepers. Two rbs, etc.
As you can see so far the flipped mafia PRs have been watcher, doc and redirector.

Which is why my point about scum having no blocking power.

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See, let me make this easy for you. My role is a two shot motivator and I motivated a confirmed town cop voluntarily so that they can have two investigations in one day.
Do you think I would do that as scum?
Scum don't have any blocking role or godfather to counter the cop so it would be a death wish to do it as scum.

Just to be clear, you didn't actually do this, your predecessor (Foxbeebirdboy) did it during D1?

Yes on night 2.

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@mod, can Mafia perform the kill and night action at the same time ?

Yes. Each player may cast all the abilities they can at the same phase.

Sorry I kinda fucked up in wording this. YES is hypothetical. They are notified if they can use their factional Kill and actions in the same night or not. I'm not confirming or denying either But all players may cast all the abilities they CAN at the same phase.

Yeah I get it, they have to be the warden to perform the NA and the NK.

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@Shadow, can you address Vedith's 5570? The mod did say in thread that the nation can still have a warden the night after the third member of the nation is lynched. How would he confirmed to you that there could be no warden last night?

I wasn't playing this game when that information was said by the mod. I replaced in and I obviously haven't read every post on every page. From recent events what I concluded was that there cannot be a warden when there are only two players in one nation.

Plus it's irrelevant because there isn't going to another night.
Vedith's whole argument was that I had to kill math last night because apparently if I didn't motivate her I would be auto lynched today. Which is complete bs. As you can see mafia can perform the nk and do the night action so if I was scum I could had motivated mathblade and done the kill. You can see Math's last will she was town reading me. I wouldn't need to kill her at all. Whereas your slot was scum reading me yesterday.
So I as scum would rather kill you than someone town reading me. My play makes no sense as scum.

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Yeah that wasn't true.

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I didn't ask the mod, I was just assuming there couldn't be warden last night.

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Town does not out right lies about this.
He was using a false mod confirmation to get out of why I was calling him scum.
Shadow is 100% scum here.

Nice mis rep.
I've already disproven your argument.

Which is exactly why I would not have bought him to lylo with me plus he was scum reading me.
It is clear that you want him to mislynch me which is why you killed Math.

You had to bring him to Lylo... If you killed him then Math would not have been motivated

@mod, can Mafia perform the kill and night action at the same time ?

Yes. Each player may cast all the abilities they can at the same phase.

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Talking about lies

I don't need town you to clear more townies by using your track plus taking the unnecessary risk of you tracking me. Keep trying your argument is invalid.

You were forced, you couldn't self vote and voting Ira over me would have made you scum.
I like the effort though, Shadow.

Haha what? Another lie.
Show me where I was forced?

I didn't need to vote anyone at all.
I had asked both you and IRA to vote me and it was decided that I had I be made warden. But you didn't vote me.
Basically a scum claim.

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More lies

That's bullshit, caught lying again. You very well knew that you gain an extra shot on the next night.

No I never.

I thought that you had to use the power for it to work?
Is this confirmed with mod?
Rephase the wording for me? If it's true then I'll vote Ira to be lynched and vote Shadow to motivate Math.

If the game is still going then we are garanteed at least 1 confirmed town regardless.

You can see here I was thinking that it would give a confirmed town.
But keep digging.

Vedith tracked Luna/Math on night 3 making the investigations and he knew that my slot had motivated Luna/Math night 2.
So the fact the he didn't know he complete LIES.

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Exactly what scum would do what Vedith is doing, "let's post some BS to deflect attention from my lies."

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Who is scum that replaced out after the scum team was obvious?

this is another desperate pathetic lie.
Foxbird replaced out site wide because of RL issues.

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ebwop

So the fact the he didn't know is complete LIES.

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In your dreams, you can't answer any of my questions and resort to posting I'm scum which proves in itself that you are scum.
keep trying, you are getting lynched. Town's gonna win this.

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Talking about lies

I don't need town you to clear more townies by using your track plus taking the unnecessary risk of you tracking me. Keep trying your argument is invalid.

You were forced, you couldn't self vote and voting Ira over me would have made you scum.
I like the effort though, Shadow.

Haha what? Another lie.
Show me where I was forced?

I didn't need to vote anyone at all.
I had asked both you and IRA to vote me and it was decided that I had I be made warden. But you didn't vote me.
Basically a scum claim.

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You say you disproved me about.you saying mod told you that you could not be warden then posted something completely different to add to you proving.
Just remember that... you told us that mod said to you that you could not be warden. Then changed it to you assumed it.

This is a scum lie, not a town trying to win lie.

you would obviously say that. I wasn't aware of it and said that it was mod confirmed cause I thought I would get the same reply anyway.

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Anyone would see you are scum here. Your questions consis the of "why would I do that?" Which I think it stupid to ask on its own unless you think I know how you play well enough?

Funny, when you whole argument about you being town is "I was right about SC and 100%". "Why would I do that as scum?"

Scum double standards is all

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Post 1 I already replied to you

No you didn't show me where I was forced.

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I did. I said it's because you would have been suspicious if you wasn't voted up.
Scum trying to ignore this though.

Why would I have been suspicious ?

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For not voting
I can't say exactly why you did it as I said all you keep asking is why you did something.
Other than that and other than lying and changing your story each time you have done nothing else today.

More continuous misrep. It was decided I was supposed to be warden. Why does it make a difference if I vote or not? Why does not voting make me suspicuous?

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I can't say exactly why you did it as I said all you keep asking is why you did something.

Exactly!! because you obviously cannot accept that there was zero scum motivation in doing that.

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Cause I thought I'd get the same answer :/
It was an honest mistake.

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Yes yes yes yesssssssssssssssss

Thanks BV

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Thanks for hosting FA and FB.
Can you release the dead chat please?

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Yay! I caught SirCakez. Woo hoo! Sorry TBB and Iroanavp about the mislynch

TBB did nothing to redeem his slot, he simply had to be lynched. He kept calling me scum when I was ob town, like wtf?

Ira why did you never asked to be voted for warden? Your tracker was very useful.

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Shadow_step has a tendency of being instantly voted in a 3p LyLo.

lol
But now that's 3 wins in a row as town in 3p lylo for me

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You were the warden last night!

what were you talking about shadow?!

I was bluffing lol

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I'm still confused! but ok

I didn't know that there could be a warden if the 3rd member was lynched on the previous day and I thought Vedith also must think the same thing. He was basing his whole argument on Shadow! scum was that I had to kill Mathblade to avoid being auto lynched day 10 which was BS. But I thought I could frame him and get random to lynch him.

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Good job black void.
My whole killing math was relying on Random playing, that's the problem with replacements it's fresh eyes.
GG town and sorry scum
As said I would have preferred pre talk to help organise where we chose bt apart from that it was a good setup.

Never bring me to lylo

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May all topics be released please?