Dragon Age Mafia [Game Over]

[Vedith]

So what nation wants me?

[Vedith]

/in antiva
We've got this Shiro!

Also, my avatar is Mysterion from South Park.

[Vedith]

So who's in our nation, Shiro?

[Vedith]

Vedith isn't reading the thread

I'm gonna tunnel the fuck out of him now

Spooky stuff!

[Vedith]

I actually don't know
I guess they wanted me in their gang and their upset because Shiro is greater.

[Vedith]

you took the last slot in my neighborhood.

So?

[Vedith]

shrio, do you have a power that's good early?

Wtf is this?
Why would you even ask this?

[Vedith]

because I want to elect a good warden, and I think shiro will be a good warden, unless their ability is currently useless... so I want to know that.

It's basically role fishing though.
If you want to vote Shiro then vote Shiro, trying to find out if the role early game is good is scummy as fuck.

VOTE: Beiber

[Vedith]

Meanwhile there is a clear town-aligned motive which they just explained.

So the town motive is because they can't find out if Shiro has a strong early power in the PT, right?
Ummm Yeah, strong town motive there.

[Vedith]

I'm not sure if you are being sarcastic...

Then we haven't played enough games together yet...

[Vedith]

VOTE: iraonavp

Why did you make this vote?

That's the spirit Dunn! Ask what's already been asked.

[Vedith]

I could be persuaded to switch to Vedith if anyone offered an explanation, but.... I haven't seen anything at all from him lately, and most of the posts in the wagon are just "It's obvious"

Something about a bad vote for "rolefishing" and avoiding this thread while posting elsewhere.

It's the weekend. I have things to do, I'd hardly call that avoiding the thread.
How is it a bad vote, when someone is asking how strong another players role is? Might as well put a sign above Shiro's head saying "Kill here".

So, am I close to being lynched yet?

I assume there's going to be nothing useful in any of these pages.

[Vedith]

Hardly beetlejuice when you keep name dropping him

I'm assuming that's what the last 10 pages were.

Anyway - Anything of interest to actually read or go by in this game?
Considering it's 3am I'm not reading the game tonight.

[Vedith]

yup. I would like your thoughts on Beeboy objecting to Tevinter.

What do you mean?
Can you quote it?

[Vedith]

Do you think avoiding this thread while posting elsewhere is alignment indicative?

Do you mean my 3 posts since I last posted here? Which were all minor posts on my phone.
If you are going to discredit me, get your facts right.

[Vedith]

My current lynch pool would be either randomidget or yellowbaron.

For what reasons?

[Vedith]

RM for stating they'd lynch anyone.
Though I'm told that was joke, it still doesn't sit right with me.

YB for a general feeling of scumminess across all their posts. Nothing they say sounds natural to me.

In what context was it though?

I'll take a look at YB in a moment.

[Vedith]

Vedith, read on Dunnstral? Vote there yes?

Well, he's not voting me yet, which is odd for him.
Apart from that skim of his posts don't show anything scummy.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Vedith

Fuck it this guy wants to hang himself

[Vedith]

These are relevant quotes.

Basically, Beeboy came hard at Tevinter.

Who's in your hood?
The names in 61?

I don't quite understand what he is getting at. He thinks that scum joined your hood just because you are there I guess. It could be easily argued that scum will not join because you are there for me.

[Vedith]

Who's in your hood?
The names in 61?

I don't quite understand what he is getting at. He thinks that scum joined your hood just because you are there I guess. It could be easily argued that scum will not join because you are there for me.

I also have more to this depending who is in the hood.

[Vedith]

@Vedith, It's Me, Luna, Ego, Dunn, and PV but there was drama because TBB and the quote voting not allowed.

What quote voting?

I don't understand 61 as that's not an attack against your hood. Or even remotely a comment towards it.

79 seems more of a joke.

91 - Isn't against your hood, just someone in the hood.

172 / 184 - Again, against a person in the hood, not the hood itself.

What is your actual point here? He targets 2 people out of the hood and has a conversation with yourself which doesn't come across as hostile.
362 is the only post actually targeting your hood, and all he is saying is he thinks scum is there. The only concerning part is that he says he doesn't know who when he has already said Dunn is scum.

[Vedith]

I dunno what to think about Vedith yet, don't much like his reaction to him being pushed (ye it's almost 4am, I'm tipsy,

but I still read up because fuck it

) I'm not really getting the carelessness I usually feel from him.
Vedith, your timezone is near mine, talk to me when you get up?

I'll get you a medal.

[Vedith]

Neither of Vedith and Dunnstral want to vote each other. Their excuses are strained and I think they are scum-aligned together.

P-EDIT: Really, huh?

Ah shit, you caught us!

[Vedith]

Well posts like that don't make me think otherwise...

I couldn't really give 2 shits what you think about me.
We can however discuss why you think Dunn is scum. And anyone else for that matter? I'm sure a detective with your skills with have some good reads to talk about.

[Vedith]

Join: TEVINTER

like this is so fucking detectable.
I naked quote something that is bolded.
pedit I dont want to join that neighborhood

I assume this was the comment you meant with the TBB joining?
Why was it an issue anyway?

I was more looking at the tone of Beeboy's posts. He does a fair amount of ripping on those in the hood, but selectively leaves out PV. He's consistently attacking almost everyone in the hood but for me and PV. He had such a carefree attitude, but as Tevinter fills up Beeboy gets more and more confident there's scum in Tevinter.

Okay so I didn't realise PV had as many posts as he did.
Still... I don't see him comment on 100 either, and even the comment to Luna wasn't saying that she's scum.
It seems to be an attack on Dunn overall.

I guess he was just salty that he didn't get in the hood. I wouldn't see that as an alignment indication.

[Vedith]

Vedith make a serious vote (not on me) before you leave please.

Is there a reason to vote you?
I'm actually looking through some people atm.

[Vedith]

Vedith, why would Beeboy be salty that he didn't get in the hood, when he could have jumped in at any time?

It was an issue because the intent was for TBB to join but he didn't vote correctly.

Because he already joined one 4?
I don't know why...

[Vedith]

Besides that I'm the kingmaker of Skyrim, there's no reason not to vote for me (not a slip).

I'm assuming that this is just a joke and does not relate to the game.

[Vedith]

My gut is usually correct though.

"Usually"?

[Vedith]

He claimed kingmaker of his nation that part is serious

Explain.

[Vedith]

No, Tevinter had likely 2-3 scum in it and Rat is the one outside of it.

How can you say that a hood is likely to have 2-3 scum in it?

[Vedith]

If they have 2 scum, they can vote each other and have a good chance at it.

So wouldn't this be obvious if they keep voting each other?

[Vedith]

Also I'm going to properly look into SirCakez when I'm fully awake.
As it stands, from a glance at his ISO, he's just standing in the background 80% of the time flinging shit shouting "fight!".
As I said, I need to read properly tomorrow, but I don't see anything from him to back up anything that he says. He looks like he's trying too hard to blend in.

That being said, I really can't stay up. If you guys need me, say my name 3 times. :giggles:

[Vedith]

So, once again, I'll like to point out, the reason I am scum to Titus is because I made 3 phone posts in the space of 3PM and 3AM on a Saturday evening. This is the case that she has on me.

Spoiler: Titus + hebichan

Also, I am a Tracker. I'm the mighty Assassin Rogue

/FLEX

[Vedith]

My role is assassin rogue and a similar ability

This post.
We are similar ability - Worded in a way to argue a town flip.

[Vedith]

Yes, because you are

probably

lying about being assassin rogue...

That wording again. You are a super detective!

[Vedith]

I was being sarcastic, I find you more of an idiot that a super detective.

[Vedith]

@Vedith: Is that your warden power or are you always a tracker? I'm not sure if this is a good question and I'm not sure if you should answer it (well, you should if you are scum ofc) but I'm thinking because we can't all be warden at the same time it might be possible to have similar powers in there?

Wait, you want me to answer this if I am scum but not sure if I should if I'm town?
It's a warden ability, I also have a calling that gives me x shots (I don't feel the need to say how many).

[Vedith]

Policy lynches are dreadful.
How do you know that they are lurking instead of just being busy?

In fact explain to me why Feelmi over PV?

[Vedith]

Isn't masq saying that FU is posting on the QT?

Where?

[Vedith]

Yeah I wasn't defending FU when I made my post there. And if I'm correct about who it is it's probably not going to get any better and we might as well lynch her (at some point, not today, I hate PLs day 1). She posted in PT btw a few times. Not really enough to get a read on her.

Can you confirm here if Feelmi has been posting in PT since last posting in the game?

[Vedith]

Oh wait, the thread wouldn't have been open right?

UNVOTE: Beiber
VOTE: Feelmi

Fine I'll go here.

[Vedith]

@Vedith: No thread opened when the picking phase was done and nations were announced, which was yesterday.
Why are you voting FU?

I know, I already commented on that.
In fact, I actually commented on it with my vote post, so you would have read it...

Well, if Feelmi is posting in PT, then why not here?
Considering Titus is voting me for posting else where on the site, if this is not picked up on by Titus, I question why.

[Vedith]

This JUST came up now, you might want to give someone a chance to respond to it before fos'ing them.

VOTE: Vedith

Do you feel that they are too close to being lynched to respond to it?

[Vedith]

if this is not picked up on by Titus

Why are you lying right now?
I said if...

[Vedith]

Well, you are lying as you said I am FOS'ing them for not scum reading, when I was actually making a point of what they should do, and if not what I'll do.
Nice work though, you are super!

[Vedith]

Yeah exactly. That's why you are scum.

Yeah, I'm caught!
Lock me up and throw away the key!

[Vedith]

Catch up later.

[Vedith]

why do people like yume join games

To give town a reason to provide content when they have nothing by producing a policy lynch later game.

[Vedith]

This mechanic is dumb if there are vts. I agree with TBB. We've all seen the mechanic.

Who do you think is scum? Thoughts on beeboy?

Regardless if you agree with it or not, you can't set in stone that this is the case.
Personally, I assume that everyone will have a role, and the sample role is to not give anything away. Regardless, we can't play as if that is 100%.

Also, do you have anything else on Beeboy apart from his 'aggressive' stance on your clan?

Also, side note. Cakez is scum. Throwing shit all game.
yellowbaron is obvious town for calling him out here, and drawing full attention to the situation. The fact Cakez basically refusing to move from my lynch and move onto Yellow for being scum and then swaps to masquerade (Who is a ridicules lynch option too). You can also see that Cakez wants no confrontation, is that his town game?
Someone tell me what Cakez has done that isn't just sitting in the back shouting RabbleRabbleRabble!

Have we had Feelmi Udders post in the PT recently? Still nothing here.

Cakez is town.

Explain this.
The only reason I feel better about you is because you are voting for Feelmi instead of Masq (Which again, is a shitty wagon).

[Vedith]

@vedith, why are you thinking I am casing Beeboy when I am just attempting to sort him? I don't want to lynch beeboy today and the defense feels artificial.

Not liking your defense of YB, as he's made threats after he calls the threats scummy and deflects. Masq is avoiding taking stances. Cakey also avoiding confrontation is an absurd claim given his fights in this game.

I would like to see who you think is scum, like 5 or 6 names.

Because you seem very concerned on him. I just wanted to know if you have anything else on him, or is it purely as I stated?
If you are trying to sort him, we both know that you will have more, and I'd like to know what that it.

I don't care if you like it, it's the facts. Cakez refused to speak to YB about it. If that's not avoiding confrontation, then what the fuck is?
1386 1389 1402
Can you show me where Cakez is scum hunting, being pro town or helpful without shouting from the back?

Give you 5 or 6 names? When have I ever given that many names as scum?

Cakez, Beiber, 100, Feelmi.

100 for hit shit vote. Although I feel a lot less with this one
Beiber for his "How strong is your power Shiro!"
Cakez because he's just voting any where, throwing shit and doing nothing himself.
Feelmi posting in PT but not here.

[Vedith]

71 - Buddying 174 - Buddying 189 - "I have no read" 210 - Joining the hood (minor fluff/banter) 252 - Talking about fluff 274 - Talking about fluff 542 - Only actually content post from Cakez.
You are blind if this is your counter argument for me thinking he is scum.

I look forward to what you say on BeeBoy, please don't hold out too long, I'm on the edge of my seat.

[Vedith]

Does anyone have any direct questions for me while I'm doing so?

I mean, I'd like you to focus on the Masq wagon to the Feelmi wagon and advise what is better from your point of view.
Other than that, I have no questions

[Vedith]

I think this is the hardest I've ever been misrepped by someone, pat yourself on the back as you get lynched.

I spent multiple pages discussing with YB and only stopped talking to them when it became clear they were scum who had no actual interest in working with me on my reads.
"voting anywhere"? I've literally only made two votes: you and Masq. Also misrep.
I am trying to avoid throwing shit, matter of factly. That's why I cut off the argument with YB.
And doing nothing is completely and obviously false.

No, you stopped talking to them because they had you in a corner, and you knew that they were right.
You're right, you won't vote, Feelmi, right?
You cut the conversation off then started flinging shit else where... You just changed direction.
Okay, you're right... You are doing nothing of benefit to town.

[Vedith]

If he's working this hard to misrep you, maybe you should not be on the wagon he's pushing as a counter to Masq.

[Vedith]

Calling players town by itself is not buddying, without context. It's sharing reads.

It's page 3... You have high influence in a lot of games you are in (Good or bad)... Yeah, okay...

[Vedith]

210 says that orlais your hood and antiva are filled with scrubs is scumhunting. You try to minimize that off as "banter" suggests he's right. Talking about fluff when it relates to alignment is scumhunting.

Also, I disagree, calling someone as a scrub is more of a friendly banter term, at least online.
"Scrub - Someone who is below your level." Does this make someone scummy?

[Vedith]

No. As scum are beneath town. Not getting into a semantic debate. When you have to torture the meaning of words, it's a bad read.

I read it as completely different. That could be possibly from how I see it used, but I 100% disagree with you here.
Never have I seen someone be called a scrub instead of scum in a Mafia game. Nice try though.

[Vedith]

Then wouldn't they have been lynched by now?

It's bullshit, she never claimed scum.

[Vedith]

Titus keeps trying to find a way to discredit me.
Do you think me not 'bussing' Masq is an indication to Feelmi being town alone?
Do you not think that I 'bus' as scum?

Apparently I'm training someone at work all week, so I won't be on until later to continue this.

[Vedith]

This is scum-aligned because Vedith says that it could be this, rather than saying what it was this.

I'm actually saying that is it, not could be. How on earth did you get "could be" from my comment?

Now, I don't know whether you're scum, or if you just have a manipulative scum-hunting style (and we just happen to be seeing things very differently). Time will help sort that out.

They are extremely manipulative and it's just forcing their bad agenda on everyone else. That's why we should listen to Albert B. Rampage as a leader instead of Motoko and Scully, because he is actually going to lynch scum-aligned players...

I did not post that, why are you editing my posts?

[Vedith]

And I am not going to change my playstyle just because some people here cannot handle my playstyle. Titus, your sister manipulated me into changing my mind ON HER ENTIRE SCUMTEAM you know damn well why I'm playing like I'm playing now. I'm ezsily manipulated, I will not elaborate novella-style.

Frustrated town.
Just saying.

[Vedith]

I've got so much to read.
If I can't catch up tonight, I'll sadly have to replace out since I can't play at work this week or possibly next.

[Vedith]

So why is ABR on L1? Do we have a cop guilty on him or is this because of him calling Luna out yesterday?
I assume as there is no actual counter wagon it's a guilty.

[Vedith]

There is a guilty. We still need to hear from Shiro. No one hammer.

Can you quote it?

[Vedith]

it's Luna's. She first told us in Tevinter.

So Luna has confirmed to you guys that ABR is scum, right?
Because her ISO suggests that she isn't going to say it here. But surely if you have already said this, then why would you carry on holding the information from us to clarify.

Because everyone in tevinter know he's scum?

If this is because you all believe him to be scum without confirmation - Then what changed from this comment;

Luna, say it with me. Diffusion of power.

And ABR is lying town.

Also this one, I guess...

I have very little doubt he is lying. ABR has no qualms about lying if we don't do what he wants. He tried to set up all mages are cops just so we'd lynch Luna.

[Vedith]

Nothing. I just believe ABR lies and degrades as both alignments.

Then lol guilty. Best thing to be wrong on ever.

But yesterday you were more for him being town lying, correct?
Something must have changed your opinion as now you feel stronger to him being scum than town (otherwise you wouldn't want his lynch, of course).

[Vedith]

Yeah, a guilty happened.

Show me.
As it stands, I see no clarification from Luna that she got a guilty. I see a vote with her not telling us the result. This could mean a number of things...

Pedit - Thanks Luna. I just didn't want Titus manipulating the voting like she tried yesterday.

[Vedith]

Previous posting says you do.
Hammer time.

VOTE: Albert B. Rampage

Was this actually a hammer?
If so my vote will not go through...

[Vedith]

What vote?

For the warden.

[Vedith]

Ok but can we address what RR just did?

Sure. He hammered/tried to hammer to end the day early.

[Vedith]

After hearing Titus action im more down to lynching her.

You changed your tune quickly...

[Vedith]

Her action

doesnt

make sense to me.

And does that suggest town Titus or scum Titus? Lets be real now.

[Vedith]

Vedith please don't defend scum after I called for you to become the warden :/

It's more a concern on how Luna swapped so easy rather than defending Titus.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Radical Rat

I can see Beeboy town and pushing Titus here, but regardless if my hood dis approve, I don't see Titus scum here.
Personally I was hoping that it was just Titus manipulating Luna into lying, which could still be the case but less doubtful. The could have been easily argues.
Regardless, Titus plays better as scum (minus the manipulating, that's NAI).

If anything I would say Luna is more scum that Titus.
Shiro I still have as town, so as pointed out, keeping Luna alive keeps Shiro alive (though it was flipped).

[Vedith]

Each player can only be warden twice... so why would scum have a joat?

It's also a power heavy game, so a JOAT wouldn't make sense here. It's most likely single abilities.
Concerning being made Warden twice, can you explain that more?
I don't recall seeing that, unless you mean that everyone is only 2 shot?
2 things, people could have more /less, even if unlikely, and it's also the fact that you probably don't have to use your power.

[Vedith]

4, 11.
So Random being the only one alive in Thedas now suggests scum trying to frame.

[Vedith]

?
Thedas is the town name and he's in a nation with 4 people

Oh I thought it was from the group with 2 in. Who's in that then?

[Vedith]

ok sure
VOTE: dgb

I mean... wow.
That was easy to get your vote.

[Vedith]

Catch up later

[Vedith]

So, since theme games can be not normal, and we know we have redirectors, it's safe to say that there could be a Godfather.

I don't see a godfather role with a re direct role. You can basically give immunity to 2 roles all the time, it also defeats the purpose of a godfather.
It also looks like everyone has 2 shots, what are you going to do, give the Godfather 2 shots cop immunity?

[Vedith]

Guys guys they're both scum dw
Let's get rid of DGB first

And if 1 of them flip town, then what?
If they are both scum, why are you gonig DGB instead of either?

[Vedith]

It doesn't matter. You wanted me lynched and you weren't even considering that I could be town, so you have no right to bring this up.

Where do you even make this shit up from?
Why do you have some sort of fantasy in every game that I am targeting you.

Do you even think before you type?

GTFO.

[Vedith]

It doesn't matter. You wanted me lynched and you weren't even considering that I could be town, so you have no right to bring this up.

I haven't even addressed you this game. What are you even talking about?

[Vedith]

I am an alt. I am talking about earlier game where you mislynched my main and laughed at me afterwards. I asked you that very same question you just asked him and you responded with 'but you can't be cos you're scum'. And now you're posting that question yourself. Cut the crap.

You talk so much shit. Every game you are in with me you bring up this fantasy.
This has no relevance to the game, and it has no relevance to the other 20 games you try to bring it up in.
Don't blame me because people agreed to lynch you in a game, a lynch takes more than 1 person.

You need to take your head out of your arse and just go back to being useless like you are in every game.

Waste of fucking space, that's what you are.

[Vedith]

I mean I knew who exactly Luna visited...
But yeah my role is fake.

[Vedith]

I liked Vedith's previous avy more :<

My hand was forced!

[Vedith]

I mean I knew who exactly Luna visited...
But yeah my role is fake.

I mean, I never said you aren't a tracker

Ah okay that makes sense!

[Vedith]

Willing to vote not you but I am unwilling to lynch in Tevinter. Who else DGB?

Cakez?

[Vedith]

Could do that.

Lets go Lets go!

VOTE: Cakez

[Vedith]

I still don't ha\/e any form of read on Cakez if I thought he was scum I would ha\/e said something by now.
I kind of just want to know why whoe\/er is leading this wagon thinks they are scum.

Broke V?

[Vedith]

I still don't ha\/e any form of read on Cakez if I thought he was scum I would ha\/e said something by now.
I kind of just want to know why whoe\/er is leading this wagon thinks they are scum.

Because I don't see anything he's done as town.
Plus I don't think Titus or DGB are good lynches.

[Vedith]

I am compelled to belie\/e he is scum now.

Glad that's cleared up.
Get your vote there!

[Vedith]

LMAO LOOK AT THIS SHITTY COUNTERWAGON TO SCUM DGB AND TITUS

I doubt 3 scum wagoned me together, so Vedith is probably just town with his head up his ass (I had a scumread on him way back on day 1 but that's faded off since)

How the fuck did it fade?
I've done nothing to even remotely change anyone's view on me.

[Vedith]

I'm trying to figure out how sircakez always rolls town when i play with him
~Dwibble

He didn't, sorry! :<

[Vedith]

I'm trying to figure out how sircakez always rolls town when i play with him
~Dwibble

He didn't, sorry! :<

nah, he did
~Dwibble

So we lynch you tomorrow, good stuff.

[Vedith]

Sircakez is town posting.
~Dwibble

[Vedith]

I still think Shiro is scum.

[Vedith]

Vedith is just posting
~Dwibble

Nice hard defend on your buddy.

[Vedith]

I don't understand how or why this wagon on 100% ego formed?

Because people finally started voting Cakez and TBB shit their pants on their buddy dying. :<

[Vedith]

Ahhhh Motoko needs death so badly and Ego's reaction was passable
We can return to them tomorrow if they keep lurking

VOTE: Motoko

I've literally done fuck all this game apart from confirm Luna, yet you want to focus on Ego tomorrow if he lurks?
How the fuck did your wagon get instantly de railed?
And now Ego's was instantly de railed.

You TBB and Ego.

Titus wagon is aweful and gives nothing. This isn't scum Titus she's too ridicules. Flipping town doesn't give an effect on anyone voting her because you know, it's what the cool kids are doing. Scum are going to be jumping on this wagon and getting away with it.

People keep saying that Cakez is town with the reason "he's posting as town" but nothing else.
He's not posting town, he's looking for opportunities.

GTFO

[Vedith]

VOTE: 100 Percent Ego
And once this flips scum Cakez and TBB.

[Vedith]

What makes you think this is a bus as apposed to you know, just scum trying to mislynch me?

Because Cakez is implying you're town?

[Vedith]

What makes you think this is a bus as apposed to you know, just scum trying to mislynch me?

Because Cakez is implying you're town?

Keep in mind just enough to keep on the fench to try and distance from you.

[Vedith]

What makes you think this is a bus as apposed to you know, just scum trying to mislynch me?

Because Cakez is implying you're town?

Keep in mind just enough to keep on the fench to try and distance from you.

What?

Read Cakez posts as of late about Ego.
He's trying to say that he's not playing his town self but yet implying him as not scum.

[Vedith]

Okay, I just got confused about the wording...

Thanks for elaborating.

At work sorry - I can go into this more later.

[Vedith]

Is there anything important I need to know?

Cakez is scum and 100 / TBB are his buddies

[Vedith]

Titus will you bus Bieber bro?

I am dine trying to knock sense into people

I will if it gets going.

[Vedith]

I would also not be opposed to a cakez lynch

When you know it's not going to happen today...

[Vedith]

VOTE: Cakez
Also willing to vote TBB and Ego.

All are scum.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Cakez
Also willing to vote TBB and Ego.

All are scum.

Why for all of those

All scum!
Lynch them with me Dunn.
TBB had each head calling the other one town and the other one scum (In the hood).
I think they are faking different reads to distance if we do lynch either.

[Vedith]

Does she usually selfhammer out of frustation as scum?

Yes.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Cakez
Also willing to vote TBB and Ego.

All are scum.

Why for all of those

All scum!
Lynch them with me Dunn.
TBB had each head calling the other one town and the other one scum (In the hood).
I think they are faking different reads to distance if we do lynch either.

Why sircakez?

Also why 100% ego

Because nothing Cakez has done is town this game.
Whenever I ask what makes him town people only say posting.

His interaction with Ego yesterday was an easy tell.

And since you have a guilty on ego

VOTE: 100% Ego

@Ira - wtf are you on? You can't truly believe that Luna and Dunn are scum.

[Vedith]

No, I changed my mind because of Dunnstral's claim. Just bothered that Shiro was killed over either of them...

Well it was stupid anyway, why would Luna visit Dunn?

[Vedith]

Well it was stupid anyway, why would Luna visit Dunn?

If both scum I mean.

Regardless, Ego today, Cakez or TBB tomorrow.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Cakez

[Vedith]

Anyone but Cakez and TBB are obvious town at this stage...

[Vedith]

Your counter wagon is Shadow...

[Vedith]

Look shadowez has given up

Then we should lynch him after Cakez instead.

[Vedith]

no

i have waited long enough

You think yourself that Cakez is scum... Lynching him makes TBB his confirmed partner from the shitting "He's town, he's not town" duo head bullshit.

[Vedith]

VOTE: Cakez
Didn't see day start.

This or TBB please.

[Vedith]

VOTE: PeregrineV

As randomidget's claim looks townie.

You said scum is in me or Cakez... yet you are voting here because TBB said so?

[Vedith]

Then vote Cakez.
His wagon is bigger and he's scum.

[Vedith]

And Pere isn't?

No... TBB is.
PV is just an easy lynch for scum.

[Vedith]

I am a self-certified cakez reader and say he is town from what I've read.

Still solid townread

....................................

[Vedith]

I doubt they are scum together anyway.

I don't

[Vedith]

Except McMenno is scumreading me

Funny that, yet he won't vote you...

[Vedith]

Except McMenno is scumreading me

Actually I only even used the energy to get on this account cause mcmenno requested help because he said you were being wagon'd or something
~Dwibble

Well that's changed from the hood.

[Vedith]

Will read when I get home tonight/tomorrow if it is too much tonight.

Haven't read a thing.

Anything major before I look at vote counts tonight?

Here's top of my head.

You are known cop, I've confirmed that aswell as I visited Luna who visited Dunn and Shiro to clear them at the time.
Cakez is scum
TBB is scum

100% being scum should be proof enough that Cakez is scum, and TBB hard defending Cakez should be proof enough that TBB is scum.

Hope this helps.

[Vedith]

2 roleblockers (creature, ourselves)

2 town RB and no scum RB?
Not 2 mention 2 jailkeepers as well...
TBB is scum and so is Cakez.

I'm going on holiday until 26th, although I'll probably daily post during the night I guess

@Mod - V/LA until 26th technically

[Vedith]

Vedith can you confirm or deny this?

It's obviously true lol.

[Vedith]

It's probably randomized, since there was scum-aligned doctor and no vigilante or serial killer...

Nope, doctor was to counter trackers imo.

[Vedith]

Prodge

[Vedith]

How is Cakez not lynched yet?

[Vedith]

Why are we waiting? With this setup are we really expecting 2 scum to still be alive?

[Vedith]

hey vedith how many shots do you have left

~Memeo

1

[Vedith]

VOTE: Vedith

From elimination.

You can't be serious...

So Rando didn't make the kill. I feel if he was scum he would have made the kill over Shadow/Ira as they knew I was warden.
Shadow was trying to say Math is scum if not killed, I disagreed. (then Shadow said PV)
Ira says 2 scum left (seems confident here) then puts a vote down without thought.

[Vedith]

Night 1 - Shiro
Night 2 - No vote as we agreed for me to be it. I tracked Luna to Dunn and Shiro. Shiro was known as role so luna would never check as scum.

Others I'll confirm at lunch.

@Ira you're either taking the piss or scum I was pushing for Cakez and 100 as scum and called them out a number of times for their I traction together.

[Vedith]

Night 1 - Shiro
Night 2 - No vote as we agreed for me to be it. I tracked Luna to Dunn and Shiro. Shiro was known as role so luna would never check as scum.
Night 3 - FFB (May be swapped with 4)
Night 4 - Shiro (May be swapped with 3)
Night 5 - Ira
Night 6 - FFB
Night 7 - Ira
Night 8 - No one

[Vedith]

Are you 100% sure that is the order Vedith?

Are you 1 million percent sure on the order?

I delete all messages I'm trying to go by memory.
All I know is I never voted TBB and not the same person twice in a row.
If I wanted to match up to or hood I could have done so pretty easily.

I'm the one here that was pushing for 100 Cakez and TBB as a scum team including in our hood and yet the one getting voted?
And before someone says TBB was town you can see I wanted Cakez and 100 first

[Vedith]

I am 50/50 on Vedith's claim change and whether it is so or not.

Ira and Shadow can see that I tracked you, and I even posted before Luna did to confirm her (your) targets.
It's really not unusual for me to get something wrong as town.

[Vedith]

Or one or both is faking tracker and is scum. We have time to wait for the random slot.

Faking from what?
Each role has 2 of each, I claimed day 1 (I believe) and so did Ira. Pretty lucky for us to fake claim a joint role rather than just saying our real roles?
I'm also a proven tracker (to you at least) considering I said who you targeted (Luna to Shiro/Dunn). This makes Ira a tracker as well 100%.

[Vedith]

That above.
So to you Math, I should be confirmed Tracker 100% regardless of what align you think .

Luna even responded after I posted that.

[Vedith]

4, 11.
So Random being the only one alive in Thedas now suggests scum trying to frame.

That is correct
Both are town

[Vedith]

Random can't be the last scum.

[Vedith]

If Random was scum he would have made the kill given that both you and Ira knew I was warden.

[Vedith]

@Mod - V/LA until Monday morning

[Vedith]

I'm V/LA.

Scum is either both Ira / Shadow or 1 of them.

[Vedith]

This is my issue.
The balance makes no sense as 5 scum.
Yeah, that's 25% but all town have 2 shots each, and scum can prevent town from having powers that night.
Scum can also eliminate powers being used regardless if they are in that group or not, as it's proven that scum can use their own powers anyway (night 1 re director from scum with Math's result).

If there were 3 scum left when Cakez was alive, there would have been greater resistance, TBB would have probably been lynched over him or Shadow/Rando.

Lets think about this for 2 seconds, it doesn't take long and get back to me when you have the answer I have.

[Vedith]

1) Vedith there was a shit ton of resistance to Cakez wagon.

Only from dead town.
Doesn't that seem odd? It does to me. I cannot see us lynching Cakez before TBB with 3 scum left.
Lynching TBB would have make Cakez look better and me worse by far, so scum would have worked on that.

[Vedith]

2) Take a stand. Who is scum of the two wagons and why? If you say both pick which one you feel more strongly about.

Rando - Cofnirmed not making the kill.
Cleared for 2 reasons - 1 I think there is 1 scum not 2 reasons given why, even if there were 2, scum would have been in Ira/Shadow as well, and they knew I was warden and I said I was checking over who scum is. It's too big of a gambit for them to make the kill instead of Rando.

You (Math/Luna) - I tracked to Dunn and Shiro. If you are a scum cop, I can't see the normal guilty / not guilty being given and instead probably changed into a role cop.
As a role cop, why would Luna visit Shiro who already said their role?
Even for town cred, scum could have got information while targeting another suspected player for town.

That leaves Ira/Shadow as POE.
Ira got his role wrong which I can't see him doing as town so it narrows down to either both scum or Shadow is scum for me.

Regardless, there will be at least 1 scum left in the hood.

The fact that Shadow (I will confirm that my comment is correct later) asked to be voted over me makes my jimmies tingle, and not in a good way.

[Vedith]

Yeah because I wanted to motivate Mathblade, what is your point ?
And if I didn't want you to become warden I could have not voted at all.

Motivate him how? He used both shots up already.
I also don't know who voted me, I didn't vote so it only took 1 vote on me to make me Warden.

[Vedith]

@Vedith

I do not see a clear answer from point 3.

Either state intent to hammer Shadowstep or vote iroanavp.

I gave a clear answer.
Seriously Math, wtf is wrong with you lately?

it narrows down to either both scum

or Shadow is scum for me

If you don't read that as Shadow should be voted, then there's no hope for you.

[Vedith]

Motivation gives an extra shot, it doesn't matter if the target has 100 shots left or 0 shots left. Seriously brush up on your mafia basics. You are terrible.
Ira has already said he voted me for warden yesterday, where the hell is your brain?

I thought that you had to use the power for it to work?
Is this confirmed with mod?
Rephase the wording for me? If it's true then I'll vote Ira to be lynched and vote Shadow to motivate Math.

If the game is still going then we are garanteed at least 1 confirmed town.

[Vedith]

For Math - Intent to vote Ira.

[Vedith]

If anyone actually looked at voting history I am clearly town-aligned, but nobody did that it seems...

Going by this, then why do you see me as scum and not town?
I was correct on both 100% and Cakez.
You are using your time of being online to my time of being asleep (from my time zone) as a justification to you town.
You think I'm scum but yet asking me to listen and help you.

And why do I not think scum would have a normal role with cop? Because it's fucking pointless.
They find out that someone is scum or town, and they already know this information.
To keep the balance in the game, mod would have to give them a role to work with.

Unless you believe that the roles were picked at random of course, meaning that the same role could be scum together.
Which I believe you have already argued against.

Personally I think the roles were pre picked as scum, as random in this setup makes no sense.
I can't see cop being pre picked unless adapted from my earlier discussion. Even more so if there are actually only 4 scum instead of 5.

But sure, keep discrediting my opinion on setup.

The only 2 people here able to be scum from night actions and common sense set up is you and Shadow.
Either both scum and you're trying a distancing gambit here while trying to throw shade between me and Math or just 1 of you are scum.
As I've said enough times, Luna would not have targeted Shiro and Dunn as scum.
There would have been better targets for both information and for town credit.

[Vedith]

I'm going to vote later though when not at work.
I'll probably vote Ira so Shadow can motivate Mathblade.

[Vedith]

If it's random+Ira then holy hell.
Vedith's gonna get some serious shit

Wtf is this comment?

[Vedith]

VOTE: Ira

[Vedith]

VOTE: Shadow

Okay that's game.
PT last night consisted of Shadow trying to convince me that Math was scum. I didn't agree and again explained why Math is town and then Math dies. He was obviously trying his luck for getting me to push Math with him.
Shadow never once put me in a scenario last night as scum and was set on Math being scum the entire time. He was talking to me as if I was confirmed town.

Before the day starts he said to me good luck.

Glad I made him warden now to ensure 1 living confirmed town.

[Vedith]

Vedith brought us both to lylo to fight each other so that he can win.

Random is confirmed town!

[Vedith]

When he didn't vote me for warden to motivate warden I should have known it.

I would have lynched you over Ira if I didn't want you to be warden (since it was my idea to make you warden yesterday)

[Vedith]

Which is exactly why I would not have bought him to lylo with me plus he was scum reading me.
It is clear that you want him to mislynch me which is why you killed Math.

You had to bring him to Lylo... If you killed him then Math would not have been motivated

[Vedith]

And lets face it, you were never going to lynch me as scum had to be in the PT. This is why you were so desperate yesterday to put a case on Math last night.

[Vedith]

Me being warden was useless last night as Math only gets an extra shot the night after that. Try to play dumb all you want.

Well as only 1 scum left, how would you motivate and make the kill?

[Vedith]

Lol, nice try anyway Shadow.

[Vedith]

???
It doesn't matter at all. Math wouldn't have known whether I motivated her or not till night 10. Math was town reading me. Even said it in the will. I wouldn't have killed her if scum.
Leaving random as conf town alive in lylo. Hell no

Well you originally implied that your motivate would be more beneficial, and when I said you give it to Math you did not object or advise.
So what happened to the Math scum? The way you were posting if I was scum it would have been an instant lynch on him.

[Vedith]

Vedith's whole hesitancy to provide proper reads when asked by Math and so much hesistance over hammering. You would obviously hammer IRA over me anyday. I was town reading you. She was scum reading you.

I was at work, how was that hesitating?
The only reason I voted Ira over you is because you gave the impression you could motivate someone.

[Vedith]

You also made it clear that you voted me... You did it for town credit.

[Vedith]

That's bullshit, caught lying again. You very well knew that you gain an extra shot on the next night.

No I never.

I thought that you had to use the power for it to work?
Is this confirmed with mod?
Rephase the wording for me? If it's true then I'll vote Ira to be lynched and vote Shadow to motivate Math.

If the game is still going then we are garanteed at least 1 confirmed town regardless.

You can see here I was thinking that it would give a confirmed town.
But keep digging.

[Vedith]

As I said, you spent the entire night telling me how Math was scum, then when I say he's town you stop posting and just before day start you say "Good luck"
That alone shows you are scum.

[Vedith]

Yeah which is exactly why I wouldn't have killed her if I was scum you idiot.
If you had killed random and bought me and Math to lylo you probably you would have won,

because I was conf biased against Math

. But thank you for the easy lylo.
Also whatever I said in Antiva PT is literally your word against mine. If I was scum I could had easily denied all that and accused you of making shit up.
But no I'm town and I was wrong about Math being scum. Shit happens.

This is my point, you were so set on Math being scum, if I was scum I would have let you lynch him.
I also would not have voted you expecting you to have a chance to motivate someone else. xD
I could have no voted and claimed I did.

[Vedith]

I said good luck because I thought I was going to get killed. I made that obvious. Nicely left that out didn't you.

How did you make that clear?
You go from stop replying to me when I explain why Math is town to saying "Good luck".
You also say that killing Rando was the obvious choice here but thought you would be killed?

You just keep contradicting yourself.

[Vedith]

Lol yeah, I am last scum I am giving you an opportunity to track me making the kill last night so I can have town cred during next day? That is a brilliant plan!
Let's say I did it for town cred. I would have taken the safe route and killed you since you were the biggest thread to me.
But I couldn't I can't cause I'm not scum.

I had been saying your slot was town from your other body and even in the PT a lot, you had a lot less to worry about. You are making it seem that I had you as scum and you made me warden.
And not you wouldn't kill me as then you and Ira would have been lynched for being in the faction. Everyone was saying that scum was there, so killing inside meant you would lose.
Keep trying though, you are obvious scum here.

[Vedith]

Nice misrep scum.
I said random would have been the perfect kill if I WAS scum.

And I didn't stop replying. It was you who stopped. I asked you what kind of scum leaves a strong player like Math who is conf town alive.

So you were the perfect kill if me or Math were scum?

That's false. You asked that before my last 2 posts. I answered that and made it clear you were scum. As soon as I said why Math was town you stopped posting.

[Vedith]

I don't need town you to clear more townies by using your track plus taking the unnecessary risk of you tracking me. Keep trying your argument is invalid.

You were forced, you couldn't self vote and voting Ira over me would have made you scum.
I like the effort though, Shadow.

[Vedith]

Posting smilies to fake town confidence isn't gonna help you. Grow up

I post smileys in every game, both you and Random know this

[Vedith]

If math was scum I was the kill because I had already suspicious of her being scum because she hadn't gotten killed. I made it evident in the thread.

I made it clear Math was town and you were scum (even if Ira wasn't) in both game and PT.
So tell me again why scum Math would kill you over Random?

[Vedith]

I'll just wait for Random to hammer you.
You're proven scum from here.

[Vedith]

Feelmi Udders

(L-0):

Shiro

,

Vedith

,

randomidget

,

Bieber Brothers

,

Motoko and Scully

,

Frizzy Cola

,

Radical Rat

,

Luna Fox

,

100 Percent Ego

,

SirCakez

,

Foxbeebirdboy

[Lynch !]

Albert B. Rampage

(L-0):

Luna Fox

,

SirCakez

,

100 Percent Ego

,

Dunnstral

,

Foxbeebirdboy

,

iraonavp

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Radical Rat

,

shaddowez

,

Albert B. Rampage

[Lynch !]

Radical Rat

(L-0):

iraonavp

,

Frizzy Cola

,

SirCakez

,

Vedith

,

Motoko and Scully

,

Shiro

,

The Bieber Brothers

,

Yume

,

shaddowez

[Lynch !]

Motoko and Scully

(L-5) :

Foxbeebirdboy

,

Radical Rat

,

randomidget

,

Luna Fox

Motoko and Scully

(L-0):

The Bieber Brothers

,

SirCakez

,

Foxbeebirdboy

,

DrippingGoofball

,

Creature

,

randomidget

,

iraonavp

,

Shiro

[Lynch!]

100 Percent Ego

(L-0):

Dunnstral

,

Vedith

,

Creature

,

DrippingGoofball

,

SirCakez

,

The Bieber Brothers

,

Foxbeebirdboy

[Lynch!]

shaddowez

(L-0):

Foxbeebirdboy

,

DrippingGoofball

,

randomidget

,

Creature

,

iraonavp

,

The Bieber Brothers

[Lynch!]

Sir Cakez

(L-0):

iraonavp

,

Vedith

,

PeregrineV

,

MathBlade

,

randomidget

[Lynch!]

The Bieber Brothers

(L-0):

MathBlade

,

Shadow_step

,

iraonavp

,

randomidget

[Lynch!]

Iraonavp

(L-0):

Shadow_step

,

MathBlade

,

Vedith

[Lynch!]

Towm voting, eh?

[Vedith]

You think they stopped playing?

[Vedith]

???
It doesn't matter at all. Math wouldn't have known whether I motivated her or not till night 10.

I can confirm he did double me up tho, and no, dont ask me to paraphrase.

Here you go Random.
Shadow lying and shows that Math would have been told. He had to kill Math last night or be lynched.

[Vedith]

Shadow caught in a lie now panicking lol.
Never called me a liar for saying he was warden but once I catch his lie says he wasn't warden lolol.
Give Random some credit, you're proven scum.

[Vedith]

Me being warden was useless last night as Math only gets an extra shot the night after that. Try to play dumb all you want.

You never voted me, I could never be the warden in the first place.

Your story just keep changing.

[Vedith]

Can you explain why there could be no warden last night?

[Vedith]

Mod
If the nation loses one member to lynch, will the currently voted warden be able to use its powers?

The nation may still have a warden for the following night but there won't be anymore warden choosing for that nation for the rest of the game.

I was never warden before, I mean me as in not my slot, as a replacement. So I didn't know what the process was cause I never got a PM. I asked the mod who confirmed that there could be no warden last night. XD

Lynch Vedith for the town win. Come on Random!

I asked the mod who confirmed that there could be no warden last night. XD

I asked the mod who confirmed that there could be no warden last night. XD

I asked the mod who confirmed that there could be no warden last night. XD

[/quote]

[Vedith]

So Shadow is claiming that mod confirmed that that there couldn't be a warden last night to him directly.
While mod already confirmed in thread he could be warden.
Bastard game? No.

[Vedith]

Because if you didn't vote me it would be suspicious lol xD
You've already been caught lying over and over, I like the effort of keep trying though.
Anything else mod confirmed to you?

[Vedith]

Town cred for encase you wasn't warden.
Face it you've been caught out enough Shadow

[Vedith]

Need someone to replace to vote Shadow.

[Vedith]

It was clear either him or Ira was scum.
Hes had a terrible voting history
Told me that mod confirmed he couldn't receive the warden last night when I then posted a message from mod in game showing that he lied.
He told me that Math would not have been told that he was motivated (from shadows power) today when we have proof he would have been.
Just constantly lying and changing his story.
All night phase he was telling me to vote math with him when I made it clear I wouldn't he kills math.
He even admits himself if I was scum I could have killed random (you) and got the win.

Just read the last 3 or 4 pages you see everything on him it's the most obvious scum going.

The only time he's actually voted scum this game (his slot) was the hammer on his buddy other than that all game his slit has pushed for counter lynches or bad lynches on town.

I gave the plan to ensure a confirmed town alive today so that's why shadow was originally asking me to vote Math with him last night as he had no other option.

As I said, read the last 3 or 4 pages and you'll see confirmed scum.

[Vedith]

Ju still a few other facts
All game I said Cakez was scum and I had 100 pinned as scum. Kept shouting to lynch them and guess what, both scum.
I said who Luna (math) targeted before them and said they would have been town from who they visited. Shadow really wanted Math lynched by me today from out PT last night
I tracked random (you) to confirn you didn't make the kills
Shadow was warden last night but as already said, told us the mod told him that no one can be warden even though we have proof that he could be.

[Vedith]

I didn't ask the mod, I was just assuming there couldn't be warden last night.

Town does not out right lies about this.
He was using a false mod confirmation to get out of why I was calling him scum.
Shadow is 100% scum here.

[Vedith]

Shadow you fucked up face it.
You are never going to convince anyone here and the moment I refused to vote Math with you, you knew it was a loss.

Let's look at it this way. In the PT you was trying to convince me to vote with you while I was saying I'd vote you.

Who is scum from that trade on its own?

WhI is scum saying mod confirmed something to them?

Who is scum who didn't want to vote mafia?

Who is scum that replaced out after the scum team was obvious?

You keep saying that you've proved me wrong, but I'm not sure if you know what that actually mens as you have done probed nothing apart from you like to change your story

[Vedith]

Exactly what scum would do what Vedith is doing, "let's post some BS to deflect attention from my lies."

You're proven scum already

[Vedith]

Anyone would see you are scum here. Your questions consis the of "why would I do that?" Which I think it stupid to ask on its own unless you think I know how you play well enough?

You say you disproved me about.you saying mod told you that you could not be warden then posted something completely different to add to you proving.
Just remember that... you told us that mod said to you that you could not be warden. Then changed it to you assumed it.

This is a scum lie, not a town trying to win lie.
This game should have been over by now and we are just waiting for the hammer on you.

[Vedith]

Post 1 I already replied to you
Post 2 you lied as scum and got caught
Post 3 is an incorrect comment from yourself. My whole argument is that you're scum not that I'm town. In these situations scum want to say why they are town not why the other is scum and that's exactly what you did today.

At first I found your efforts entertaining now it's just pathetic.

[Vedith]

I did. I said it's because you would have been suspicious if you wasn't voted up.
Scum trying to ignore this though.

[Vedith]

For not voting
I can't say exactly why you did it as I said all you keep asking is why you did something.
Other than that and other than lying and changing your story each time you have done nothing else today.