In post 36, Grendel wrote:@Boring You don't even have a witty one-liner to go with your vote... that's really... boring...
I can't tell if there's meaning behind this post or you're trying to rhyme I'll assume the ladder and if so gj ^_^
What I get from what you're saying is he's only posting when it's convenient for him to post yes?
I think you're looking into that a bit to much and overthinking I don't think that's what he was going for that seems way to smartIn post 294, nn30 wrote:In post 291, MariaR wrote:What I get from what you're saying is he's only posting when it's convenient for him to post yes?
Yep.
Also that from 247 - 261 he addresses a significant number of issues, but ignores the ones I've raised with him. The most he responds to me is by giving an explanation for why he hasn't posted in a while.
Apologizing for not posting for a while would have been a fine explanation - had he directed it at me. Instead, to me, it feels like he tried to slip an explanation under the radar without having to directly confront me on anything. THAT felt more scummy than the post pattern itself.
I thought he was clear cause I didn't know mafia could have that power but I see no reason to lie. So I think it's real regarding if he's town or mafia I'd say town because I just think town would have that more often than scum because we would need a crazy amount of pr's to counter it as already stated
In post 357, nn30 wrote:@MariaR - It took me a while to figure out who you were again once you switched your avatar.
The other avatar made me think everything you were saying was sassy and brusque.
Now I read everything you say as soft and timid. Even the stuff I've re-read.
Psychology is weird.
I will kick your ass if that msg was in any way directed towards me edgehogIn post 371, Shadow_step wrote:Flail scum flail
I saw a few points on him was like...hm okay
Because my post was the one before it so I just assumed but yes I am scumIn post 379, Shadow_step wrote:374, quote shouldn't be there, was directed at Maria
hahahahaha <3In post 399, Shadow_step wrote:I would call Maria prob town but she is so good at faking town reactions I'm not gonna town read her for this.
Sorry to hear that.In post 405, Zoronos wrote:@Maria
I find reasons for scum cases to be really instructive. To that end, I have no idea how to read you or engage with you because you just post a conclusion without explaining.
I get nothing from that, and am not even sure where to begin examining it. It leaves me a bit boggled.
It's a hard stance cause I don't want to give any info to scum but if I give no info I'm also giving none to town so!In post 407, Zoronos wrote:Yeah, me too. I don't like 'passively observe stances, hope to glean insight'.
I'm just not sure how to handle it since it falls so far outside my normal experience.
I don't really know if I get pressured enough I know i out reads with reasons anyway making me a huge hypocriteIn post 410, eagerSnake wrote:What kind of information would you not withhold, MariaR?
Unless I feel the random need to out info yeah that's prob the best way.In post 412, eagerSnake wrote:So what you're saying is the only way we're going to get info out of you is to apply pressure?
I mean the fact you did nothing to stop it didn't really help either.In post 498, Gamma Emerald wrote:WTF
How do you get "content with it" from that post? Was the sarcasm not clear?
@Maria
Hey look now we're on the same page gamma!In post 506, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I wasn't against it, just against the fact he was run up so fast.
I'm actually rethinking my scumread on PP because of that wagon looking back.
UNVOTE:
I'll wait for you to hardclaim cause atm I think you're bsingIn post 646, Shadow_step wrote:These are my reads
Town
(nn30, Zoronos)
(Grendel, boring)
(DF, implosion)
(Maria, LUV)
(PP, GE)
(Eager)
Scum
Haven't read prisms latest posts so I'll sort him later.
Implo is scum with him 100% if that's the case anyone who insta calls Eagers claim scummy has inside infoIn post 649, Shadow_step wrote:Implosion is the only one who thought Eager was scummy with his claim which is very important and must be noted. That caused my earlier town read on him.
But it could be just that he is his buddy and inside knowledge and all that.
Is it really that big a stretch?In post 665, nn30 wrote:In post 660, eagerSnake wrote:I don't see why he (ss) would gamble like this as scum, though. It's an awful gamble if he's scum
And you're defending ss from me, which implies you town read him.
You think it's more likely that two townies got the same obscure role than scum just counter claiming you.
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I'm so confused.
Maybe if you ask nicely.
I have a lot of townreads and Boring is one of the people I do not townread and isn't anywhere near close to getting it I can see boring in a few teams that I don't feel like naming so I'm wanting to lynch it.
It's a weird role yeah but if mafia and town both had one we would get ths outcome for sure i don't think a mod would ever put in a role that gets an auto ccIn post 674, nn30 wrote:In post 668, MariaR wrote:Is it really that big a stretch?In post 665, nn30 wrote:In post 660, eagerSnake wrote:I don't see why he (ss) would gamble like this as scum, though. It's an awful gamble if he's scum
And you're defending ss from me, which implies you town read him.
You think it's more likely that two townies got the same obscure role than scum just counter claiming you.
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I'm so confused.
I've never played a normal before. I don't know what comes up and what doesn't. I'm going off what other people said - that the role is obscure - and assuming that it wouldn't come up like this.
WHAT THE ****
I did read the first page was it on there cause if so I didn't see it!In post 686, boring wrote:
Why ask the mod when you can just read the first page? Unless you're trying to announce that you can't possibly be scum, that is. The timing is pretty with SS threatening to look for buddies.
By the way, you don't get to pick and choose when players are going to address your in-game behaviors.
He tunneled me even before he got a guilty on me there's no real change in his playIn post 720, nn30 wrote:
I read him starting day 2 of that game - after he got the cop claim on MariaR - he straight tunneled her. Like, "if you ISO me it's pretty obvious this was the cop in hindsight."
Since pointing out that Snake had the same role as him, he's listed snake as his top scum, and then fought with me a bunch. He made 0 effort to move the conversation over to Snake (his top scum).
I couldn't smoke if I wanted.In post 726, nn30 wrote:Eager, Maria, I don't know what either of you are smoking.
Brain dmg = no smoking or drinking for me no biggie
You don't think I know the spot I'm putting myself in if one of you are actually scum?In post 741, Shadow_step wrote:Maria if you are town you are setting yourself to be lynched after eager flip.
You'll be an easy mislynch for scum. Stop it
Good post 10/10 great thumbs up like retweet would post it again frame it on my wallIn post 748, eagerSnake wrote:Yep they'll ml u right after mling both of us
Or they'll wise up and lynch boring
I mean that's just a givenIn post 767, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Maria, we share like the same reads on 3 or 4 people. Are you saying your reads are awful as well?
What do you sr me for.In post 797, Prism wrote:I have way, way too many scumreads right now: Implosion, boring, LUV, MariaR, Eager, and nn30. Of the bunch, I'd probably say Maria and boring are the ones least likely to be correct.
nn30's last 10 pages have been a trainwreck. He scumread Implosion, said:In post 319, nn30 wrote:I'm still wary of implosion. Since I'm not getting any traction with him at the moment, I'll drop it and see if I have anything to contribute to the other wagons occurring right now.
but dropped the ball entirely with the followup. I scumread Implosion, explained why, and called for more votes on him-one would imagine nn30 at least taking an interest in one of his top suspects. Instead nn30 didn't even read my post explaining my reads or who I wanted, even when prodded to do so. He never had an interest in who I wanted instead of Gamma/Penguin to begin with, and even less so after the top one was Implosion. Latching onto Gamma and now Shadow and launching all kinds of shit to see what sticks is not a town approach to the game whatsoever. His #690 is noticeably about volume in casework over quality and he admits it. Does anyone here seriously think that Shadow wants to get into a 1v1 Day 1 as scum in a game where town has minimum 2 mislynches? Finallyis a trademark scum post.In post 709, nn30 wrote:I'm the most obv town player here.
Moving on, I think either Eager is mafia or they're both town. Eager is playing this exactly how he should as scum, because there's really no way for him to come out of this alive unless he convinces everyone they're both town. I believe he's ascetic-I don't buy so much that he's a town one. Implosion being one of the ones pushing that eager isn't mafia for it really doesn't ease my mind.
In the meantime, Implosion, would you like to respond to my #591 and #599?
Right now, my vote on Implosion stays, I'd be willing to switch to nn30 if people would stop assuming the guy was town for no reason.
I think one of them is okay the other is just wrong.In post 803, Prism wrote:After ISOing you I really can't remember what I found wrong with the first 15 or so pages, it has more to do with me disliking your playstyle than anything but that really shouldn't factor into my mindset. Your push on boring/LUV is good.In post 799, MariaR wrote:What do you sr me for.
The reaction to eager/Shadow is very 0-100 cavalier and leaves me wondering why you weren't doing this earlier if you had such a solid townblock in your mind minus Shadow. It reads very much as trying to take advantage of the chaos and it's your chance to take control of the game.
What do you think of my other reads, namely that on Implosion and nn30?
Why do you care?In post 804, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:In post 799, MariaR wrote:What do you sr me for.In post 797, Prism wrote:I have way, way too many scumreads right now: Implosion, boring, LUV, MariaR, Eager, and nn30. Of the bunch, I'd probably say Maria and boring are the ones least likely to be correct.
nn30's last 10 pages have been a trainwreck. He scumread Implosion, said:In post 319, nn30 wrote:I'm still wary of implosion. Since I'm not getting any traction with him at the moment, I'll drop it and see if I have anything to contribute to the other wagons occurring right now.
but dropped the ball entirely with the followup. I scumread Implosion, explained why, and called for more votes on him-one would imagine nn30 at least taking an interest in one of his top suspects. Instead nn30 didn't even read my post explaining my reads or who I wanted, even when prodded to do so. He never had an interest in who I wanted instead of Gamma/Penguin to begin with, and even less so after the top one was Implosion. Latching onto Gamma and now Shadow and launching all kinds of shit to see what sticks is not a town approach to the game whatsoever. His #690 is noticeably about volume in casework over quality and he admits it. Does anyone here seriously think that Shadow wants to get into a 1v1 Day 1 as scum in a game where town has minimum 2 mislynches? Finallyis a trademark scum post.In post 709, nn30 wrote:I'm the most obv town player here.
Moving on, I think either Eager is mafia or they're both town. Eager is playing this exactly how he should as scum, because there's really no way for him to come out of this alive unless he convinces everyone they're both town. I believe he's ascetic-I don't buy so much that he's a town one. Implosion being one of the ones pushing that eager isn't mafia for it really doesn't ease my mind.
In the meantime, Implosion, would you like to respond to my #591 and #599?
Right now, my vote on Implosion stays, I'd be willing to switch to nn30 if people would stop assuming the guy was town for no reason.
Why do you seem concerned about being scum read?
Why didn't you just say so!In post 828, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:In post 827, MariaR wrote:Why do you care?In post 804, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:In post 799, MariaR wrote:What do you sr me for.In post 797, Prism wrote:I have way, way too many scumreads right now: Implosion, boring, LUV, MariaR, Eager, and nn30. Of the bunch, I'd probably say Maria and boring are the ones least likely to be correct.
nn30's last 10 pages have been a trainwreck. He scumread Implosion, said:In post 319, nn30 wrote:I'm still wary of implosion. Since I'm not getting any traction with him at the moment, I'll drop it and see if I have anything to contribute to the other wagons occurring right now.
but dropped the ball entirely with the followup. I scumread Implosion, explained why, and called for more votes on him-one would imagine nn30 at least taking an interest in one of his top suspects. Instead nn30 didn't even read my post explaining my reads or who I wanted, even when prodded to do so. He never had an interest in who I wanted instead of Gamma/Penguin to begin with, and even less so after the top one was Implosion. Latching onto Gamma and now Shadow and launching all kinds of shit to see what sticks is not a town approach to the game whatsoever. His #690 is noticeably about volume in casework over quality and he admits it. Does anyone here seriously think that Shadow wants to get into a 1v1 Day 1 as scum in a game where town has minimum 2 mislynches? Finallyis a trademark scum post.In post 709, nn30 wrote:I'm the most obv town player here.
Moving on, I think either Eager is mafia or they're both town. Eager is playing this exactly how he should as scum, because there's really no way for him to come out of this alive unless he convinces everyone they're both town. I believe he's ascetic-I don't buy so much that he's a town one. Implosion being one of the ones pushing that eager isn't mafia for it really doesn't ease my mind.
In the meantime, Implosion, would you like to respond to my #591 and #599?
Right now, my vote on Implosion stays, I'd be willing to switch to nn30 if people would stop assuming the guy was town for no reason.
Why do you seem concerned about being scum read?
I'm trying to figure you out hun.
We're lynching Luv or boring. you have no other CHOICEIn post 987, Shadow_step wrote:This boring wagon is ridiculous as hell when we have confscum eager.
WHAT IS THIS BS?????In post 1013, Prism wrote:Phone post so I'll make it fast.
Minimum 2 scum on that boring wagon but I really wouldn't be surprised if it's all 3.
P-edit: Eager/Implosion/nn30/LUV are all acceptable lynches so far.
Okay now this is true.
I want to say uhhh Yes?
Pls not the puppy faceIn post 1028, Shadow_step wrote:
Can you please vote Eager now?
*makes puppy face*
Prism you shouldn't be okay with the boring wagon because of your scum reads and you should be voting eager.
In post 1132, Zoronos wrote: If I were scum, I would never early claim ascetic in thread. I'd sit on that into end game and never ever mention it. Town can't cop me / roleblock me / track me? Awesome I'm the best scum.
IT'S 2016 DAM IT WHYYYYYYIn post 1149, nn30 wrote:@Maria - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
In post 1375, nn30 wrote:@Boring - still not buying it.
If you were conflicted about your read on Eager, why the hell was he your second to top town read?
So you're saying you're scared that no one is forcing the lynch outside of these and that's because scum is okay with it?In post 1441, Zoronos wrote:Nobody else has any thoughts... 'k.
Here's what I'm pondering, maybe someone can weigh in.
It feels like our trains are relatively solidifying on Boring vs Eager. Neither of those trains seems very 'difficult' - There isn't a lot of flip flop other than by Gamma.
Does that mean Scum are fine with this (because two town?) and don't feel a need to push an alternative (or have already settled in to bus)? I feel like neither train has faced a ton of headwind - There hasn't really been a struggle to get either to complete. Normally that's a red flag for me - When I have a good read on a scum usually someone is around to throw water on it. Not necessarily a scum - usually a townie in fact will just yell at me that I'm wrong - Scum tend to bus where I'm from if I have a solid read on their partner(s).
But I'm not feeling that here. There is no huge headwind on either train - The only player I've felt that is off in Narnia is LUV. Grendel is afk so maybe that's the problem? I brought this up a little re: Gamma the other day, but I kinda buy Dier's explanation about Gamma's behavior / alignment. Which was unexpected since I was kinda suspicious of Dier and I'd expect scum-Dier to take the opportunity to either throw shade on Gamma (if Gamma town) or simply to ignore the point (if Gamma scum), rather than absolve him.
That got a bit ramble-tastic. Not having anyone posting is boring lol.
In post 3432, Prism wrote:Also, to Maria and PP who were of the opinion that I should have really replaced out given my anger-it was one outburst, and I immediately calmed down 30 minutes later after I went for a walk. I was being immature and irrational, and I didn't want to let 30 minutes of my temper flaring get in the way of literally months of meticulous planning and hard work. It also, again, would have sucked for Podoboq to do a replacement for me-we got incredibly lucky that BV was in the waiting.
Yeah, I felt horrible when I got townread for it, and hinted the best I could that it was possible for me to do it as scum because of it. It's not how I would have wanted to win at all. It's important to keep in mind here that I was not the one assigning an alignment read to it or trying to milk it-there was no rule stating Prism will only try to replace out as town that I was trying to subvert. That was everyone else's speculation as to what I would and wouldn't do as scum, and guessing incorrectly. The only things I did were 1. Get mad enough to want to replace out to begin with 2. Not want to let a 20/30 minute emotional outburst ruin something I sunk months into.
P-Edit: Yep, sometimes people notice, sometimes they don't-and that's just the way it goes, I needed to find better ways to draw attention to it, and numerous other things, without saying it myself. I won't reveal all my secrets this game because they're reusable later, but that was one.