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Post Post #1800 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:04 pm

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Similar to how it's unethical to use a script to keep track of jungle timers but when Riot added jungle timers to the game it's no longer unethical
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Post Post #1801 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:10 pm

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That is not why riot added timers at all.
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Post Post #1802 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:25 pm

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In post 1776, zoraster wrote: lock in a troll champ (support teemo, for example).
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Post Post #1803 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:28 pm

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In post 1801, JasonWazza wrote:That is not why riot added timers at all.
Their motives are irrelevant. By adding jungle timers, Riot is saying "using jungle timers is an acceptable way to play the game".
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Post Post #1804 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:29 pm

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So voice communication is also unethical then, accountant?
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Post Post #1805 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:29 pm

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What if I showed you the patch notes where Riot says dodging is a valid solo queue tactic.
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Post Post #1806 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:30 pm

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In post 1798, Accountant wrote:Dodging is great if you want to climb, but then you aren't playing league of legends any more, you're playing the "dodge bad teammates" mini game
You're playing the "dodge bad teammates to play League" mini game, the interesting mechanic that players introduced by being dicks (or picking champs they're utter trash with, or a combination of both)) that requires you to wade through the bad players to actually be able to play on the ranked ladder. It's not no longer playing league when doing this is a prerequisite to playing league.

Also, the fact that Riot allows for at least 1 queue dodge with such a minimal loss means it's a legit and ethical strategy up until it inflicts punishments for doing it too much (the best analogue I can think of is the tilt mechanic in pinball).

On another topic, any help with that pvp.net patcher kernel not responding issue I brought up last page?

P-EDIT: So by adding a "X-time minimal loss dodge" to the game, Riot is saying that queue dodging in the short term is an acceptable way to play the game?

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Post Post #1807 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:43 pm

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He's just objectively wrong on so many levels.

See RayFrost's comment.
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Post Post #1808 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 5:47 pm

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Post Post #1809 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:12 pm

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In post 1805, Psyche wrote:What if I showed you the patch notes where Riot says dodging is a valid solo queue tactic.
Then dodging is okay. I wasn't aware of those notes
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Post Post #1810 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:13 pm

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In post 1804, RayFrost wrote:So voice communication is also unethical then, accountant?
I mean, Riot provides in-game voice comm through garena talk, so it's clear they approve.
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Post Post #1811 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:14 pm

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In post 1806, Voidedmafia wrote:
In post 1798, Accountant wrote:Dodging is great if you want to climb, but then you aren't playing league of legends any more, you're playing the "dodge bad teammates" mini game
You're playing the "dodge bad teammates to play League" mini game, the interesting mechanic that players introduced by being dicks (or picking champs they're utter trash with, or a combination of both)) that requires you to wade through the bad players to actually be able to play on the ranked ladder. It's not no longer playing league when doing this is a prerequisite to playing league.

Also, the fact that Riot allows for at least 1 queue dodge with such a minimal loss means it's a legit and ethical strategy up until it inflicts punishments for doing it too much (the best analogue I can think of is the tilt mechanic in pinball).

On another topic, any help with that pvp.net patcher kernel not responding issue I brought up last page?

P-EDIT: So by adding a "X-time minimal loss dodge" to the game, Riot is saying that queue dodging in the short term is an acceptable way to play the game?

Thanks for defeating your own argument!

PE2: Also, that.
That's like saying littering is okay because you "only" get fined $100 to do it! Just the fact that Riot implements a timer would suggest they disapprove!!!

Also, it's not a prerequisite to playing League. You can just play with those players.
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Post Post #1812 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:16 pm

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I read the patch notes. That means queue dodging is ethical now, so I guess it's okay to start doing it.
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Post Post #1813 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:34 pm

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In post 1810, Accountant wrote:
In post 1804, RayFrost wrote:So voice communication is also unethical then, accountant?
I mean, Riot provides in-game voice comm through garena talk, so it's clear they approve.
This doesn't exist in any other server.
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Post Post #1814 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:35 pm

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Bad luck for you guys I guess
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Post Post #1815 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:58 pm

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my friend could probably climb out of bronze whenever he wants but refuses in favor of playing meme shit like fucking ap xin zhao

its so infuriating
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Post Post #1816 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 6:59 pm

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In post 1815, Nosferatu wrote:my friend could probably climb out of bronze whenever he wants but refuses in favor of playing meme shit like fucking ap xin zhao

its so infuriating
AP Xin hasn't been viable, much less even worthwhile since pre-season 1, I think? Definitely pre-S2.
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Post Post #1817 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 7:18 pm

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Xin Zhao top on the other hand is pretty strong for climbing out of bronze
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Post Post #1818 (ISO) » Sun Oct 16, 2016 8:30 pm

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If you can't get out of bronze with just about anything, you are probably p bad. Like I guarantee I can get from b5 to s5 with any champ any role.
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Post Post #1819 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:00 am

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Can confirm. Went from b5 to g5 with playing random stuff like skarner top, nunu top and zac top. Fun times
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Post Post #1820 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:24 am

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In post 1818, PJ. wrote:If you can't get out of bronze with just about anything, you are probably p bad. Like I guarantee I can get from b5 to s5 with any champ any role.
idk when was the last time you played in bronze, but right now, everyone I play with in any game immediately ints if they do poorly within the first 5 minutes of the game.

Which is everyone because its fucking bronze.
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Post Post #1821 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 2:40 am

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Report them.
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Post Post #1822 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 3:31 am

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In post 1820, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 1818, PJ. wrote:If you can't get out of bronze with just about anything, you are probably p bad. Like I guarantee I can get from b5 to s5 with any champ any role.
idk when was the last time you played in bronze, but right now, everyone I play with in any game immediately ints if they do poorly within the first 5 minutes of the game.

Which is everyone because its fucking bronze.
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Post Post #1823 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:24 am

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i got out of bronze 5 playing ad mundo top

this was back when mundo-anything-that-isn't-jungle(and even then it was sketchy) was considered troll
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Post Post #1824 (ISO) » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:26 am

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ok, is the objective of when ur playing league of legends to accumulate lp, or to play a video game?

u will absolutely end up wherever ur skill lies, regardless of what methods you use. grinding games and playing odds is not fun guys, just go play poker if u want a math rush

dodging is really dumb
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